EMCON: Managing Radio Risk

[@DTHRocket]

As a ham, I do not freak out when I hear you mention encryption. Then again, I'm also fighting in the shade.

[@KiwiIngenuity1]

"His codes were older, but they did check out" - I see what you did there, sir. Nice.

[@ReignOfGlory]

I'm an Army SIGO who teaches this stuff, and I point students to the USMC EMCON SOP regularly....best one out there ATT

[@YasilTorvanna]

Cool story.

[@brandonfitzgerald8705]

@@YasilTorvanna why u pretendin to be a lady and consistently contributing nothing

[@jcole8008]

​@@YasilTorvanna And what have you ever done besides troll people in the comment section? You're just a waste of oxygen 😂

[@MadeAnAccountOnlyToReplyToThis]

​@@YasilTorvannaAre you implying this is somehow unbelievable?

[@benjaminjones5029]

​@@MadeAnAccountOnlyToReplyToThisjust working out some issues.

[@NickFrom1228]

Remember: When US hams freak about encryption it is because the FCC forbids it. If you are in a war situation or etc, all the FCC rules go out the window. You still want to hold procedure and whatnot for efficiency and ability to communicate but FCC rules about most things become optional if the situation warrants it.

[@GeorgeOrwell-yz6zx]

Will AI make encryption ineffective in the near future?

[@robmorgan1214]

​@GeorgeOrwell-yz6zx no that's not how AI works

[@NickFrom1228]

@@GeorgeOrwell-yz6zx Depends. Encryption still takes huge processing power whether AI or not. Second, encryption takes many forms. If you send a codeword "Frisky" that means all is well but tomorrow it means something else, AI won't be able to do anything. This is why code books are so useful. Use a page, decrypt a message then destroy the page. AI will never figure that out. That is why using codewords and changing them is impossible to decipher without making some kind of connection and that can usually only be done if the codeword is used more than once. This is what brought down Japans purple code and the German enigma machine.

[@iamthebaird]

I just wish more people would read and understand the 10th amendment and realize that most of what Mordor on the Potomac does is illegal (including the FCC), then stop serving as Mordor's volunteer enforcers.

[@GeorgeOrwell-yz6zx]

Thanks Rob and Nick

[@cameronlefler2626]

OUTFRIGGINGSTANDING! I was just having a semi-argument about this whole subject with a fellow prepper-ham. You articulated many of my talking points better than I ever could. Keep up the awesome content!

[@iamthebaird]

Hams never stop arguing...

[@YasilTorvanna]

Cool story.

[@MadeAnAccountOnlyToReplyToThis]

Nobody cares. The question is: "What did you retain?"

[@wolvarine35]

More reasons to love field telephones. Good for EMCON, no batteries to have to bring to the OP/LP, and if part of your network is compromised just cut the wire.

[@PhillipFelix-kw3zi]

They work

[@MikeColes]

Wires are a physical path that can be used for locating sites.

[@firasajoury7813]

@@MikeColeswhile true but imagine you have a burried land line of fiber optics or a subterranean command and control structure try reaching that

[@philipcoggins9512]

When I was a student pilot, I was told to treat radio transmissions like a girl's skirt; long enough to cover everything, short enough to keep it interesting...

[@benjaminjones5029]

Look, sure, don't wear it on your own body though.

[@MadeAnAccountOnlyToReplyToThis]

I have an impression that much of the audience simply watch these videos without absorbing the information based on some of the comments here. It may be worth having a section for audience engagement with the material in these education-oriented videos or in the community tab.

[@theinsane4469]

Gotta love when ya see a new S2 video!!!

[@korlilkatana7653]

At first I thought you were way over the top, but I was wrong. Perfect video, great timely info.

[@JR-jn8jp]

Deuce, very good info for the group. I think a mandatory tool is an SDR. With this you can determine what frequencies are being used and plan your Tx's (preferably data burst modes) adjacent to areas being used. Even better, get a TinySA ultra. You can EASILY configure to monitor large spectrum swaths to find areas to hide. It is more difficult for DX teams to pull your Tx out of a busy section of airwaves. Like the artillery, if you shoot (Tx) then you must scoot!

[@nickcoldest7128]

I remember spooling out wire for TA312s many times, great fun! Who knew we would be going retro in 2024! 😂 Great presentation S-2 👏

[@TheSzalkowski]

Great video. One thing that stuck out to me was HF is usually one of the first things to run off in EMCON. I guess it depends on what you are trying to protect against but all forms of HF should be shut down before LOS or SATCOM in most scenarios I can envision. Thank You.

[@PatrickKQ4HBD]

NVIS (near vertical incident skywave) combined with terrain masking is a very effective way to confuse DF teams, and it only works in the MF/HF bands. The ionosphere is transparent to VHF and UHF, so they don't skip. A data burst mode using NVIS would be very effective, though bandwidth limited.

[@TheSzalkowski]

@@PatrickKQ4HBD yes sir, NVIS does usually work at around 10Mhz and below. I use it frequently on 80m and 40m. I usually work at around 300 baud depending on conditions. NVIS is more difficult to DF true, but not impossible. none of that argues against the statement that depending on what you are protecting against, HF should be one of the first things to turn off in an EMCON situation. One of my jobs in the military was to intercept "enemy" comms so I have seen a thing or two as the farmer's insurance guy would say.

[@PatrickKQ4HBD]

@@TheSzalkowski As a measly RTO, thanks for doing what you did on my side. 😉 My best friend in Iraq was doing all that secret squirrel SIGINT stuff on our FOB. I always wanted a peak inside their shop, but I didn't ask.

[@robmorgan1214]

Great video! It's always the people and tactics. Never the gear or tech. Tools enable tactics. Case in point if you're within 40 mi of the border near a "useful" "trade" route you don't have an fbi drone you have a cartel drone on 24hr overwatch collecting. They are also in the US cell tower infrastructure and correlate the signals from both to identify targets for human collection or surveillance. You've been warned. A GERMAN security conference recently reported on some of the techniques they're using and thier abilities decrypt US leo encryption (it's serous the US electronic posture is currently a lot like the border: Swiss cheese). Our tactics are lagging 10-20 years behind. Never bring a personal device within 50 mi of any operation that has anything to do with the southern border unless you want to end up in a searchable database that already matches your imei to your physical identity (including financial info). Leave it at home.

[@phil2082]

Lol, anything to monitor patriots, nothing to monitor the actual enemy coming through our open borders

[@AdMan-The-LabRat]

Good to know, better I learned, kind of like determining CHEESE when making a good bowl of French Onion Soup; "Rail" 'Generic Swiss' Vs. a "TOP $helf" 'Swiss Gruyere'. Maybe? Or not? Regardless, THANK YOU for the thought provoking truth.

[@HamTheWhale]

Does S2 have a radio buying guide? Wondering what the “best” (cost/quality*capabilty) choice would be above bao feng tier. S2 if you are reading this, thank you for providing so much knowledge.

[@NDSMD]

Do you have a ham license?

[@ghostlight69420]

some kind of yaesu something or other? maybe an actual ham radio channel would be more help.

[@creekrunner2078]

A 15 dollar quenshang smokes the yaseu

[@TUKByV]

This may help. S2 put this out not long ago. Bare Minimum Comms Strategy

[@HamTheWhale]

@@NDSMDno

[@ScottSmith7964]

Very well done video!

[@skydivingcomrade1648]

I truly appreciate each and every video. Wish they had a class I could take... it would cut down on my clumsy attempts to do the tech stuff myself.

[@jimmycarr9161]

QSL , Thank you for these instructions and walking us through radio usage. Your videos keep adding pieces of knowledge and building up our capabilities.

[@exotime]

VHF radios with easy encryption Racal/Thales 25 aka PRC6894, If you can find these along with their batteries you are golden. You can set encryption keys from your PC. These radios have the encryption modules in them, not stripped.out like most surplus radios.. Problem is batteries have a unique chip that the radio needs to see to use full 5watts otherwise it defaults to 1 watt. Batteries need to be rebuilt with x3 18650 per. Still worth it.

[@exotime]

ANDFLMSG for android of FLMSG for windows , is a suite of sound modulation protocols for encoding text and images in high noise or weak signal conditions, psk, olivia, mt63. Designed for ham emcoms. You can accustic couple it, but uts better to run it through a digirig. Allows keybord to keyboard comms over radio, vhf/uhf and HF.

[@kenatpach]

This is fantastic! Thinking about all the factors above simple doctrine. And… 😂 Jack Burton was always moving. “Pork Chop Express”!

[@bagger35e]

Ahhh... Augusta in the spring was my favorite.

[@creekrunner2078]

I have fond memories of Augusta back in 87

[@shooter31m]

Spring of 87.

[@Burns14223375]

Another great video thanks for your time

[@DarkFire515]

Great video, lots of food for thought. It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts on high bandwidth, high latency comms channels such as electronic dead drops - that sort of thing could prove useful under longer-term EMCON 4 conditions.

[@1KosovoJeSrbija1]

I think he covered it in his dead drop video

[@DarkFire515]

@@1KosovoJeSrbija1 well spotted, thanks for the tip.

[@PatrickKQ4HBD]

The bandwidth of the sneakernet is legendary. It does seem odd not to have mentioned dead drops and message runners at least a little bit.

[@frankthetank3342]

I spent this evening setting up my Kraken. Funny timing!

[@haxwithaxe]

When you're using text you can encrypt the text before putting it through whatever comms your using. For instance you could practice encryption legally by using a null cipher or a bypass check box that runs through the encryption process but the input text and output text are identical.

[@creekrunner2078]

Excellent video on comms

[@jayrm4945]

RE: Receive only - keep in mind that almost ALL receivers have local oscillators (LO's) which can be detected over a surprisingly wide area. The cheaper the radio (Baofeng...) probably the farther the detection range. Food for thought

[@yannkitson116]

I guess that goes for ordinary transistor radios as well. If that is the case you can listen if everyone in an area turns on their radio to listen to the news at the same time. In a city or town I guess the noise from devices like car radios, TV sets, WiFi routers, mobile phones, tablets, PCs etc. would provide a cover. Correct me if I am wrong please.

[@TheSzalkowski]

ALMOST all radios do have a LO. Some of the newer SDR technologies do not. But to your point almost all radios currently do use an LO. The Baofeng UV-5R does have an LO at 26Mhz. I have not been able to pick that up at anything more than spitting distance even with a directional antenna so I would not be to concerned about the threat of DF a location based on LO detection. I have been able to detect some older analog radio LOs at 10s of feet but the risk does not appear great in my testing.

[@AlanTuringWannabe]

I like that term. Prepared citizen

[@DaneStolthed]

I don’t have a ham club to join so thank you for sharing this information.

[@aaronhope8366]

Looking at HF Text : Time to bring in hand ciphers to unscramble the messages. End and end encrypted with some "come at me bro" in the middle isn't the perfect idea, but I think it pushes that maybe to a yes if done right and pressure tested.

[@MA-ro5qi]

Simply outstanding. Thank you S2. Greatly appreciated. Fight in the Shade indeed.

[@cylent23]

Ahhh yes EMCON....joy of joys on deployment hahaha gotta love being the fun police 😂

[@robertjackson1407]

Thank you 😊

[@tombradscott]

Pro tip when blasting FRS or GMRS. Speak with a much slang and use alternate language whenever possible. When the Navajo code was used in WW2 it included heavy Navajo idioms and slang. This another layer of security. This also discourages FCC scum from engaging. Any shortwave should only be contingency or emergency anyway. So once you go AES256 you don't go back.

[@haxwithaxe]

It would be interesting to see a video on modern signaling. All the signaling I've learned about has been the 1800s kind of stuff (semiphore/mirrors) I learned about in scouting.

[@Real_Tim_S]

Don't forget lasers... they are available in both visible and non-visible wavelengths, can be modulated either analog/digital, basically point-to-point but can be a one-to-many if you can shoot it at a comonly visible surface - they have wicked long range, very hard to intercept - and if done during the day, it's bascially impossible to spot if you're not on the receiving end.

[@salmerin9129]

Excellent

[@TW-mr3zj]

🔥

[@dus777]

S.O.I. use code words from common use language and ham qso's. "station on battery for club contest with low power and long coax, 4 radials, 2 grounds, 1 band is open"

[@bob_mosavo]

Thanks, S2 👍

[@ws4335]

Do you have a recommendation for an HF transceiver? also anyway to do rx only winlink?

[@BobBob-il2ku]

He uses the icom 705

[@TrullaCæmentarìí]

Yaesu FT-DX10

[@kunfugunman]

Outstanding!!!

[@NickFrom1228]

Ah Jack Burton. Well you know what he says...

[@kj3n569]

"It's all in the reflexes!" JB

[@slik560]

Great info as always. Thanks 🇺🇸

[@roflchopter11]

I noticed you listed UAS here. Any idea how Ukraine is still using DJI drones without being targeted by artillery? Are you confident DJI can be used for anything borderline, even in emcon 1?

[@iamthebaird]

@roflchopter11 with basic COTS hardware you can sniff DJI transmissions and decode the GPS coordinates of the drone *and* the remote control. There are videos here demonstrating this.

[@DavidPrObooMBer]

^ Hence why they reprogram them...

[@roflchopter11]

@@DavidPrObooMBer That's good news. Do you have any information on how and with what they reprogram them?

[@DavidPrObooMBer]

@@roflchopter11 i dont. They prolly developed something inhouse. If you feel the need, i think youd just want to build the drone on your own. Plenty open source firmwares..

[@DavidPrObooMBer]

@@roflchopter11 o-gs/dji-firmware-tools

[@riley3760]

Can you please breakdown “fight in the shade”?

[@jaw0449]

Why even risk comms anyway?

[@dus777]

because we aren't preparing for a weekend of bare shelves and power outage. You'll need friends if there's a long term problem. (unless you have 24 relatives on a farm)

[@thedudeofthenorth]

Possibly to communicate?

[@jaw0449]

@@thedudeofthenorth go dark

[@timothyfoster6215]

In the Navy when your being targeted your EMCON drops to 1... They already got you and everyone else needs to know that.

[@jessemills3845]

The FIRST CONCERN with HAM RADIO, IS THE FACT THAT YOU ARE REQUIRED TO LIST YOUR PHYSICAL ADDRESS!

[@libbyd1001]

No longer required to list actual physical station address. You can list any address where you can reliably receive mail. Can be a work address, PO Box, Mail ‘drop’ service, etc.

[@platinumfalconm3891]

"YOU ARE REQUIRED TO LIST YOUR PHYSICAL ADDRESS!" Completely FALSE information.

[@eveningprimrose3088]

Anyone testing to get a ham license now has to obtain an FRN. Maybe a physical address is needed for that. Not sure, haven't done it yet.

[@ChristopherJohnston-ml6pc]

Another book to check out is NC scouts the gorilla guide to the Beofang and he just came out with 2 more books.

[@disband_thebbc5933]

It's mainly direction finding I don't care if someone hears me say "take the squirrel from the tumble dryer and place it in the tortoise shell." Over an unencrypted analogue radio. 😂

[@SocialistDistancing]

If your messages are short, and low power, its extremely unlikely that anyone would even notice it. Also, there are so many signals out there, direction finding would be difficult at best.

[@MountainMan7.62x39]

Good video

[@joenemeth9606]

A++++

[@shadowbanned3716]

I used to do some radio hobbying. Never could get into it. Tried just listening ham channels in my area before and never heard nothing....it kinda leaves you out of practice. Why get a license when nobody even hits the repeaters.

[@oliverallen5324]

Ham clubs are pretty low yield but you might find a few like minded people

[@ericblair3009]

very few IF any.... many are full of sad hams who talk of doing criminal activity because someone slipped up on some ham radio etiquette... which does not discount their experience on the radio.

[@skydivingcomrade1648]

EMCON & commsec is a game of cat and mouse. It's not chess.

[@danialphaomega]

Take a hint from the WW2 wind talkers & Mexican cartel by using a whole new dilect or code

[@Sophistry0001]

Are modern phased antenna doo-hickeys not able to read and triangulate even a data burst to know your exact location? Like the things with 4 antennas that can read the difference between a wave hitting each antenna to tell the exact direction and distance of a transmission? Do these exist or am I making shit up?

[@user-sc7fk5ys6x]

The angle measured is not that exact and someone has to take the time and choose to look at your particular noise source, as opposed to all the other similar noise blips that are out there.

[@keithstone6856]

These days even using civilian frequencies like ham or gmrs with a call sign is dangerous. Your personal information like your name and address is easily obtained through a call sign search on the FCC website.

[@PhillipFelix-kw3zi]

They still have to capture me. Usually mobile and hard to find will be frustrating for them.

[@J_McPhearsom]

@@PhillipFelix-kw3zialright Rambo

[@PhillipFelix-kw3zi]

@@J_McPhearsom not Rambo, I'm just not easy to kill.

[@J_McPhearsom]

@@PhillipFelix-kw3zi That short answer leaves me with many questions……. Please tell me, how did you develop such superhuman incredible skills in combat to gain a nonchalant view of the dangers and challenges of being target of a manhunt? Are you a Super Soldier like Steve Rogers? Homelander, or Chris Hemsworth from Extraction? Or, (unlikely but possible) are you an actual SF operator, who’s a rarity of having years of field experience w/o physical deterioration collecting all the VA Pokémon like ruined knees, shoulders, backs, TBIs, etc? Or in outrageousness of your quote, is that script from story on Chaos Space Marines ( lol😂 )? I’ll give you a chance to answer to your case, rather than pure judgement: How many firefights have you been in? How many in war/combat, and how many against a specialized US Gov agency? Also, while outnumbered, and/or subject of manhunt?!(Not SEAR school. Not watching YT videos. Real experience?) Since you’re implying you could theoretically evade (and/or?) outgun an entire government agency TF, specifically out to find you - Which of your experiences would demonstrate that your massive assertion & confidence of being _“not easy to kill”, “hard to find”_ and _“mobile”(?)_ have any validity? (Lol context ain’t Russian conscripts or Taliban fighters. Highly trailed and equipped US Gov. agencies and at minimum, cops, who can call SWAT) *Assuming one man CAN take on a whole team of (American military!) operatives, then where are the (true) stories beyond movies?* Seriously, before holding your hairless nuts in the air and saying how much of an unstoppable ‘man’ you are, *tell me, how times, and who, has ever managed to successfully evade or “eliminate” a full SWAT Team(s), or more capable branch for more than a day or week before ded or jail?* Or god forbid, the DHS Agency, and/or others SOF they can call upon to deal with your buffoonery. (The only partial examples I can think of were in no way defensible either) All that imagination also forgets that no matter how big and strong you think you are, there hearts, brains, lungs and spines don’t work too well or long with bullet holes in them. The plan whole impervious thing goes out the window as soon as you’re hit, (though depends on where and how many. But whether you can still function afterwards, and for seconds, minutes or hours, has no bearing on how “hard” you think you are to kill, purely where, what, and how the bullet penetrated. I’ve known plenty of guys like that down there in TX, who all talk and tell stories that intend to give you an initial impression they’re SpecOps Vet, but if you get to know em, find out they were actually dishonorably discharged after a year or two, decades ago, never been in a firefight, much less won a single fistfight. Problem is making being a “badass” “tough guy” their identity, thinking that simply means buying a 30 guns, jacked-up truck, wear camo every day, kill one animal a year, (and even then it’s a stationary deer eating from feeder you habituated it to), and then congrats, you can ramble about your “warrior” ethos to fellow “tough guys”. Guys who thinks he can take on a federal agency, alone, hahaha. (I’m no hippie. I own multiple guns, hunt, shoot & go to ranch regularly) what worries me is this increasing accepted man-child, mentality and all encompassing IDENTITY of gun-toting “toughness”, that never learns _there’s a million more things to being a man than LOOKING, TALKING tough and ability to pull a trigger_ *Most people don’t realize that most can see right throw the BS and see an insecure boy, the harder you try to be seen in a certain way, not LIVE that way* (Not that that’s you necessarily).

[@PhillipFelix-kw3zi]

@@J_McPhearsom you are taking what I said way out of context. There are ways to transmit and evade being caught despite the odds. Everyone forgets about the French resistance and the partisans during the war and how much of a pain in the ass they were for the Nazis, I mean future Democrats/Communist. Try thinking about how you would transmit and make your own plans

[@CPurdiePlays]

A thought I had while watching this is our cell phones. I know with Android (at least with Samsung devices) if you go into developer options, in the quick settings developer tiles, you have the option to enable a button in your pull down menu to turn all your sensors off (bluetooth, wifi, mobile, etc). This is a software toggle and not hardware. I wonder how effective and reliable this is if it actually works, and could someone remotely turn these sensors back on? Since we can't remove the battery in modern devices anymore I'm likely to just stick it in a faraday bag if the situation arises. Now I'm curious if anyone has actually tested this. And is something like this limited to Android, or do iPhone users have something like as well?

[@user-rv7we4wu7p]

Still working it/learning it. Also removeable SIMs. YES faraday bag. TOO Risky for carrington effect 2.0 .

[@user-rv7we4wu7p]

Yes i have had them remote turn on bluetooth setting. Also i think apps reset when you factory reset and you have to go through all your app settings again.

[@kwdoug]

I think I’m turning into a secret squirrel 🐿

[@AlanTuringWannabe]

I'm a Ham. I wish we could use encryption.

[@user-sc7fk5ys6x]

True. But there are still so many ideas out there that are not quite encryption…

[@Andrew-pd7co]

Radio buying guide please

[@FuckALLauthorities]

Hey asshoIe, ewe have the information at your fingertips. Sheeple always asking for answers.

[@NDSMD]

Get your ham license first

[@FuckALLauthorities]

@@NDSMD looooser

[@NDSMD]

​​@@FuckALLauthorities only had to watch one video of yours, mental illness is real, go seek help.

[@FuckALLauthorities]

@@NDSMD loooser

[@pat9973]

encryption legal in us and go figure ireland on law i could find is itar no nofor fcc is civili enforcement bussiness band itinerant license is like 400$ for ten years from fcc... with that in hand encrypt away lol

[@KingLoopie1]

👍

[@DisasterPreparedness]

The only caveat is going to be AI processing of signals now. They can use Wi-Fi as a way to 3D map the interior of a building using AI so when it comes down to it. Use it if you need it!

[@user-sc7fk5ys6x]

Any open source projects doing this?

[@tombradscott]

"It's an older code but it checks out. I was about to clear them. Shall i halt? "

[@billynomates920]

still miss the music at the end

[@KD2HJP]

🎼🎵🎶🎶You need to manage your emissions 🎶🎵🎷🎺🎸🎼

[@meidamx]

Get some.

[@AlrightWhoFarted_]

👍👍

[@tombradscott]

You could also pull a Captian Picard and only transmit "attack pattern delta". Your team knows what that means but your adversaries know you watch Star Trek. Psyops.

[@buzz5969]

EMCON ALFA = RADIO SILENCE.😊

[@benjaminpauza159]

use meshtastic and encrypted baofeng digital radios. Problem solved. Just don't get direction found

[@docbill224]

Reievers can be detected, via rf.

[@izmazix2148]

Y’all, chill about encryption. We’ve been using cryptology WAY before radios existed. It’s not new and I’m not relying on 20 friends buying $1000 of gear each and learn how to use it. I’d rather give my buddies easy radios and have a good plan. Or use the plan in conjunction with simpler data modes. Let’s send a text over VHF, UHF, or HF that says “hey, grabbing a burger at the best spot in town” guess what I mean? Exactly… you have no idea. “They” won’t either.

[@dominusdelecti]

not adopting encryption is worse than not knowing how to operate a gun. get gud people...

[@timmcclary5137]

MAHALOS

[@Mike-cp3xr]

In fema region 4 listening to a shortwave receiver will bring a HUGE HELICOPTER that will sit almost on top of your house. Also blimps will occasionally come.. also very low down. Listening to a Christian broadcast or a patriotic program is specifically targeted. These are undisputed facts ! This has happened to me and to many others I know. Two people had this exact same thing happen , and they had their shortwave receiver less than 24 hours. A military veteran who was a radio man had only had his radio in use for 20 minutes. Receivers are not safe to use !

[@tombradscott]

Anyone else here use drones as repeaters?

[@user-sc7fk5ys6x]

Tethered drones maybe? Repeater power runs down the battery that much quicker.

[@adcaptandumvulgus4252]

Nope you've convinced me I'm getting a scanner for radio is going to get me in trouble.

[@Sir-Cyr_Rill-Nil-Mill]

Wundya think: send a sticker with your area code eh? inexpensive, they get your love. Pass it On. ;^} 50,000,000 sticker wall of roses planted in the manure along the border that the "convoy" is otherwise fruitlessly bringing to the meet up for command level debriefing in Brandon, TX while the women organize a "Right to Life" March on Dallas a few miles north. ;^} Let's Go Ma~ver~iX! Ammi stupid for wanting all these things to happen at once at once? 100 s. monroe eagle pass

[@GrahamBartle]

Sh!!te this is an op?!?! Why am I using radios? Cell towers down? For weeks or days? When did that happen? The US military would cream their jeans if a domestic paramilitary force started using radios to ID themselves and their locations. All they did all day long in Afghanistan was track down the brown using radio transmissions. What's wrong with an encrypted app? Maybe some steno in a few sexts?

[@2heavyb517]

Your not supposed to speed on public roads or take those tags off your mattress either. Grow up and handle your business

[@noahway13]

A team member captured and under duress with his radio is not socially acceptable to talk about?? And who will ask a downed pilot about what is a KITE? Not sus at all...