Sabian Cymbals Factory Tour Part 1 of 4

[@samm1809]

"and that means ANYTHING that was on the market." man, talk about a grudge.

[@cristiankyler5228]

sorry to be so off topic but does anybody know a trick to get back into an instagram account?? I stupidly lost the account password. I appreciate any help you can give me!

[@dariotitan510]

@Cristian Kyler instablaster =)

[@randysanchez8188]

i have a TAMA drumset but i use both ZILDJIAN,SABIAN and PAISTE cymbals depending what sound i like and depends on a song,

[@Burps___]

Bet these guys cook a mean pizza!! 🍕

[@axismc33]

I will eat a bronze pizza👍😂

[@MK-ze8xu]

I really hope these guys get paid some good money. This is pretty much a skilled trade or craft and then being there as long as they have

[@bryandrums32]

M K dam right

[@doknox]

For real. Plus some of those cymbals go for 5-600 a piece. I paid 900 for a zildjian hi hat crash and ride. It's worth it though. Cheap cymbals sound like just clanking metal.

[@indieHindleyMusic]

Fun Fact: SABIAN was named after the first 2 letters of Bob Zildjian's 3 kids Sally,Billy & Andy. :)

[@kaan898]

another fun fact,sabi means kid,children in Turkish and -an Armenian annex... Sabian...

[@petegabittas3410]

Kind of fucked up how it all works so perfectly!

[@tc7362]

Impressive, it's nice to see in this technology age that actual hands on craftsmanship still exists...

[@axismc33]

Yup, but this is from 2010

[@JoeyP322]

I used to think that cymbals were expensive... after watching this I think they’re not as expensive as they should be!!! Man, what a process !!!

[@Dummertrummer]

I guess many drummers (incl myself) had that wake-up call. I couldn't believe my eyes when I was younger and saw that price-tag. :P

[@johncole4882]

Shhhh

[@seakay5705]

That moment when bob zildjian says that sabian is better than zildjian 😂😂😂

[@Thomas-qg5iz]

Hes right. sabian is better zildjian

[@ward5150]

well, bob zildjian is the creator of sabian of course he is gonna say that :P

[@Thomas-qg5iz]

But its just so true ;)

[@EEJEEminer]

The history is that the two founders of zildjan back in turkey were making these cymbals and then there was a conflict so one half of the company left and made a new one called sabian, all the people that were part of sabian were lured in by the sabian and they all originally worked for zildjan. Fun Fact!

[@cb1606]

Connor King l

[@SXI96]

I love how environmentally conscious and sustainable Sabian is. They conserve water usage and recycle literally everything. AWESOME job! Not to mention they also make incredible cymbals. Just listen to Dave Abbruzzese's drumming with Pearl Jam.

[@badongalipores3425]

then you realized , sabian is from zildjian

[@langer1972]

Some people don't know that.

[@crespyACE]

sabian is own by a zildjian brother that wanted to do something total deferent then zildjian, so he speared from the company and maded a better cymbal company. but yes they r zildjians just better lol

[@maicomet644]

Badong Alipores...The Zildjian brother that left the company has three children which are named SA-lly, BI-lly and AN-dy, giving you SA-BI-AN.

[@Jarhead1313]

Chinay Mai Learn something new every day, thanks for the info.

[@gabesmusicshow4215]

holy shit

[@bbierstedt]

I had no idea that cymbals were that labor intensive. You really get your moneys worth.

[@christopherdunn317]

Thats why they cost 400 to 500 and up these guys an not min wage.

[@tysonrinker5958]

It's crazy right?

[@RoscottProduction]

22:05 Wtf is Czecholoslovakia ? You mean Czech Republic or Slovakia... Or maybe this video was made before 1993.

Actually there's one common importer group (AudioMaster) for Czech Republic and Slovakia, so I believe he was referring to that.

[@beAllbugger]

Yeah, if you spend the dough you can find some fine cymbals excluding no brand names. I've always found Paiste 2002's to be the most sound quality consistent, but i currently have a motley collection of Zildjians and I like them alot.

[@samithmordraus20]

God bless Canada

[@rodstewart74]

I sent my Sabian 16" AAX-Plosion crash cymbal (Brilliant) to be changed to a "Natural" finish to this factory in Maine. I can't wait to hear how it sounds in about 6-8 weeks UPDATE: Received my cymbal last month and it sounds amazing. Has a more dry echo hum that's consistent with what I play, plus I can't see my distinct finger prints as much as before. Traditional is the way. Next my 18" cymbal. Thanks, Sabian UPDATE: Had my 18" AAX-Plosion cymbal finished to "Natural" and I like the results!

[@litchar]

Sabians are Canadian and this factory is in Meductic New Brunswick but I'm glad you got good results from whatever body shop in Maine refinished them for you.

[@rodstewart74]

@@litchar Yeah, they did a pretty good solid finish on both my cymbals and it was very cheap. It still shows the "CANADA" signature stamp on them, which I love knowing that's where they originated from. I think they are a joint team between boarders. Very communicative and trustworthy from my experience.

[@francescopiccolo4135]

22:04 czechoslovakia?????? how old is this video?

[@chippullin]

2010

[@dennisn1672]

Been using the AXX brilliant finish for 35 years. Never let me down. Some are over 12 years old and still sound amazing. Sabian is the best cymbals ever produced by far.

[@Vivi2372]

@Ian Soberano what a childish view of the world you have. You do realize SABIAN was founded by a Zildjian right? The name isn't 300 years old but the pedigree sure as hell is. Your loyalty to brands is rather naive at best.

[@jefflyon2020]

all three of the world's top cymbal makers have AMAZING high end product lines that because of competition and demand and modern technology and techniques are better than ever--except the cheap low-end shitty sounding ZHT,PST,and lame B8+B8pro, even scimitar fucking suck and give the companies the reason to put such a high price on the really nice ones-like K,legacy,artisan,HH,masters,2002,602 and sound formulas you know the ones i mean, 600 dollars for a 22inch ride is too much,but young drummers never really get the chance to hear beautiful cymbals, or the feel-the shimmer and wobbly washy feel your stick and cymbal soft and gentle contact can make plenty of noise-or volume for any drummer, the cheap ones are brittle and sre highg pitched and crack easy, are stiff and hit really HARD might produce good crach but hit gently sound cheap and are cheap,but that cheapness is what makes them popular.spend good money and get a good cymbal you wont abuse it or beat violently antmore.

[@RoughAndWretchedRAW]

Gotta say: I am impressed by how much of the process at Sabian is actually done by hand. I watched a video by Zildjian and most of their process is automated. Then again, it does back up the family fall out story that caused the founding of Sabian. One brother being the face who retained the original company and the other who was in the factory and founded Sabian. Automated produces a good quality but only hand crafting will produce unique and one of a kind results.

[@rjsal246]

Rough And Wretched R.A.W. Very true, do you think they are still producing them the same way?

[@RoughAndWretchedRAW]

@@rjsal246 No clue. All I can say is automation may produce quantity and repeatability but it does not produce quality and uniqueness. Then again, I just watched a video that said the pro or amateur status of a drummer can be determined solely by their drum set up. Vocalists are using autotune and backing tracks and folks can't seem to play without click tracks. So maybe quality. talent and individuality are no longer relevant.

[@Customwinder1]

The HH and HHX and artisan cymbals are among the lines still produced the old way. AA are automated anvil. And all of the cheaper cymbals are mass produced. And individuality and talent still count. Top 40 and the like is made for the masses. To make money. Go see a local band and support local music 👍

[@rsilvers129]

they are virtually identical. Both use automatic hammer machines. Sabian just chose to show a hand hammered model being made. That is a very tiny percentage of what they sell.

[@vincentroberto9673]

Give me a's and k"s anyday over sabian!! Although they do make nice a cymble..

[@mrmisfit635]

With you 💯 A's n K's sound like literal magic

[@Jakon.x]

Vincent Roberto 🗑 A’s are terrible and they only good K’s are the sweet and cluster other than that it’s hot 💩 lol Sabian for the win!!!

[@ottawadrummer]

fuck could you imagine hand hammering cymbals all day? ding ding ding ding brutal on the ears

[@funkodrummer9415]

Love Sabian and always will and always will play Sabian and nothing else, r.i.p. bob zildjian thank you for making kick ass cymbals

[@milesmontgomery3000]

charlie brown

[@sideshowdrummer]

I don't want to work I just want to bang on the drum all day. lol

[@MrJireh09]

By far THE BEST cymbals...and ALWAYS putting new stuff on the market!

[@Burps___]

MrJireh09 Paiste?

[@thenecropolis_ov_former_lo3396]

Cool One more like dinner plates lol. nah use what you like but I think sabian is better.

[@afterlifeyt9073]

sabians suck bro meinl or zildjian better

[@MrJireh09]

@@afterlifeyt9073 dude!! you resurected an old post LOL...10 years later i can tell you ZILDJIAN and sabien are great...never try MEINL

[@MrJCTroutman]

I want a complete setup hand picked from Area 51!

[@jamesarnold5554]

I've always been proud to play Sabian cymbals!!!!!

[@85Aheadstix]

Now whenever i see "sabian" i will think Sally, Billy and Andy. And say, im playing Zildjians grand kids.

[@RickyUno]

Hey Video Customer Service Guy...Using natural gas in not a zero emissions situation. Look it up. ...You also screwed up your explanation of metallurgy. Heating Steel to red hot and then quenching it in a liquid is "Tempering"....Heating metal to red hot and letting it air cool is annealing..Annealing softens the metal and allows you to work the metal. Tempering makes the metal hard.....I'm sure by now everybody has already Corrected You..I'm surprised they let these technical errors pass. Maybe your a relative. Anyway, I'm done

[@johnnyroastbeef84]

"Maybe your a relative" = hilarious! hahahaha!!!!

[@joyddeepkumar2034]

HAHA YEAHH, there indeed were some real bad technical fuck ups... but then hey... in the end they are giving some good cymbals...

[@DeathValleyWarthog]

That's exactly what I thought while watching. Thanks for saving my time. Cheers!

[@garoshamirian]

Can I have mine with pepperoni and olives and a bit well done please?

[@gerzkisierratango.alphanov4722]

Which is better?.....sabian or zildjian?....

[@mexicanmaggot666]

Ever since I started drumming, there's no other cymbal in the world I'd rather play than a Sabian. And it's because of their very mission statement and the amazing roster of people that work for and with the company. R.I.P. Bob Zildjian. Thank you for making amazing cymbals for people to enjoy.

[@mustangfan1995]

i actually went there for a class trip last week for music class, it actually pretty interesting

[@TroyDawdy]

so... bob ZILDJIAN runs sabian? ...

[@DrGray_Drummer]

I'm sure they make a good cymbal, as they have pleanty of great drummers endorsed. Personally I can't stand the overtones, especially on the AAX. My first set of beginner cymbals were B8's from the 80's. They sounded awful. Paiste will take B8 alloy, and make em sing. Zildjian, and Sabian are brothers, I believe, but I'll use Zildjians. The magic of the today's studios, but I can still tell. Nice the recycle though

[@leifchurchill]

Hi I'm Charlie Brown ahahaha Charlie Brown works at sabian XD

[@omukssbm]

Leif Churchill Something tells me the comics wouldn't be as great if it was just Charlie hammering cymbals for 25+ years.

[@RyoCanCan]

Read the zildjian/sabian history, it is quite interesting. Robert Zildjian founded Sabian, the name coming from the first two initials of his three children, SAmmy, BIlly and ANdy.

[@joshlybecker3476]

Pretty dope knowing where my cymbals were born. Thanks for an amazing product ladies n gents!! #Sabian4life

[@thechadbroxson666]

i own a HH leopard hand-hammered ride it has a clean but raw sound. the bell is raw as fuck. it the only ride ill use!

[@mikuspalmis]

Nice ride. I have that one too. It stood out to me from all the rest.

[@roughrider0195]

hammering metal all day, every day? i thought my job sucked...

[@johnstorace1195]

tennis elbow from Hell!

[@JazzyB11235]

The dudes an artist in my opinion

[@mrmisfit635]

It doesn't suck. These people love doing it.

[@markhealey3660]

I have been playing Sabian since 2007. Best cymbal made according to my ears. Thank you.

[@Lakk6Metal]

Im so curios why there isnt a viewing on how they make Chinas or Gongs, how they make different percussions and so on. Crashes, splashes and rides are shown yes. But the other aint. Why ? . Kevin , drummer from Norway.

[@gmdrummerboy]

@05:35 That's what i did with the Zildjians when i got my Sabian HHXs. lol

[@galph2]

i want into area 51

[@MichaelPohoreski]

What does UFO's have to do ... OH, @1:14 the restricted area in the factory =P

[@bennyboney]

I got my first sabian cymbals (used) for free. They came from a closed down whorehouse in oslo.. loved the sound and still have them 20 years after ..

[@Customwinder1]

Warehouse 😂

[@iwilrage]

Hate watching guys throw shit around

[@codys_shelf]

Love the sound of the unpolished AA around 8 minutes. Hopefully they will release a line that mimics that sound.

[@dimidomo7946]

I must have missed it...how are the Zildjian and Sabian names related or tied together? Is Bob Zildjian related to the other Turkish cymbal smiths?

[@nickymooncymbals]

Dimi Domo Yes...Bob Zildjian is (was, sadly...he has passed away) of the Zildjian cymbal making family and used to be a big part of the company until a disagreement led to a split where he took over the Canadian facility and started Sabian.

[@dibaz1]

I just haven’t had good exposure to Sabian cymbals and that’s probably my fault! Zildjian have always been consistent to me - sorry 😐

[@austincox1709]

Barrie Myers me neither. they have bad tone to me.

[@dibaz1]

Austin Cox I cringe 😬 when I hit them, the bell part is all I like!!

[@85Aheadstix]

Zildjians crack to easily

[@mrbucket75]

Im always curious if any of these guys play for recreation at home. Seems like they have a love for it and would like to try what they do at home. Seems like a great job if they do....

[@Mortison77577]

They don't make the very best jazz ride cymbals. The Artisans are nice though.

[@ChickenThug55]

So where are all the toppings? I see lots of pizzas being taken out of the oven!

[@rushton84]

Took the tour of this factory yesterday! Great bunch of people there and they even re-buffed and re-logo'd one of my older cymbals and it's like new!

[@SkandiaAUS]

Little known fact: Jazz music was discovered when someone dropped a palette of cymbals.

[@DemetrioAlbidrez]

The Final stage of each of the cymbals made . Sounds like a shattering of glass the Perfection of Making SABINA Cymbals !! Great 👍 Video !!

[@ConnorJohnGriffin]

Yeah, Sabian was started by Robert Zildjian after Armand and him got in an argument. They use the exact same 'secret alloy' as well.

[@enjoichoclate5]

Rich and krupa were some of my biggest inspirations Barker is a joke i completely agree with you on that portnoys got chops but your right he isnt as good as neil peart but i respect all drummers.. well almost all barkers kind of hard for me to respect but i just try not to hate its all music so why make fun of somebody who has a different taste? I like Jimmy Sullivan am I a "fan boy"? hell no i just like music what im tryin to say is dont hate on other opinions and make assumptions about who

[@enjoichoclate5]

tilt your cymbals toward you when your crashing on a cymbal try to hit the body of the cymbal instead of the edge because that's where they split also don't tighten them down tightly I don't have mine tightened at all no felt at the top just the wing nut sure you don't have to do that if you don't want too but try to loosen it up as much as possible because when you restrict a cymbal when you hit it ends up flexing way too much thus cracking or splitting

[@enjoichoclate5]

It doesnt work like that... some people dont crack cymbals Im a paiste guy and ive never cracked a cymbal my dad who is a very hard hitter also has paistes and hes had the same black label 2002's he bought in 1971 if you hit a cymbal right it wont break and out of all my friends im the only one whos never broken a cymbal and i play 5 hours a day every day, my dad did the same thing since 1971 depends how you have your cymbals set up and how you hit them

[@jaymoney1981]

Robert Zildjian, son of Avedis Zildjian III, the head of the Avedis Zildjian Company. Family tradition had it that the head of the company would pass the company down to the oldest son (Armand). After Avedis Zildjian III died in 1979, Armand (who was President of Zildjian at the time) became Chairman of the Board. This eventually led to a family feud and a legal dispute between Robert and Armand that resulted in Robert leaving Zildjian to form the rival Sabian company.

[@Midas526]

Personally, I don't think that they have the best cymbals on the market; most of them have bad overtones, so it's Paiste for me. However. Sabian is easily the most innovative out of the major companies of the past few years; credit where due, the Holy China, Omni, and Stack Hats (Shame they didn't make it) are AMAZING.

[@blica1]

One thing that pisses me the hell off with every percussive instrument, drum and cymbal company, is that you have to absolutely be signed to a recording contract in order to get your endorsement...And before any of you debate me with a rebuttal , i am well aware of the fact that if that were the case, everyone would get free cymbals..

[@JoshGarsideMeyers]

Good to see Charlie Brown is keeping busy these days.

[@Customwinder1]

I've been getting together a full set of Sabian cymbals for my kits. Really old 90's AA series. And scored an old 18" AAX Xplosion crash . They sll sound great !

[@metalhead55]

@TheDigitalMafia actually they're made in the Eastcoast of Canada in a town called Meductic in New Brunswick. no Eskimo's just loggers and the best damn partyers you'll ever meet. come check us out sometime.

[@Marcii1995]

@BuriedfoREVer I don't kow if I remember right but I think that Zildjian was lead by two brothers until they argued and one of them found his own cymbal company called Sabian. Am I right guys?

[@Rimshot247]

Does Sabian still bury their fancy cymbals under ground?, can't remember what they call them, use to be a video showing them digging them up after a few years then charging out the a@@ for them.

[@turk8418]

Made in Turkey since 1623

[@SEELEYJP]

Paiste ....far superior than sabian or zildjian.....i like hh and hhx....but paiste makes so many great lines.......traditional,signature,masters,rude.....played by way more pro artists

[@pearlmasterdon4886]

the zildjian family had a massive fight once and one half got the name, and the other half got the factories. zildjian is obviously the half who got the name, and sabian got the factories.

[@crashboombang8163]

Very happy with my 13" hats and 21" ride 23 years and counting!

[@EmersonCapuano]

Why have Chester thompson changed Sabian instead a marvelous Paiste "RUDE"? Of course, both cymbals are amazing , but i prefer Paiste. Here, in Brazil, Sabian Cymbals are largest used by many drummer, even Gospel musicians, in fact these cymbals become standart on Brazilian Music. Vera Figueiredo is an endorser´s example of this cymbal mark. Are Sabian Cymbals so glady? Yes, but there are another best cymbals marks in the world, called Paiste( my prefered), Stambul (awesome), ufip...

[@BrownCornelius000]

Yeah, they're just as good. Just play whatever sounds good to your ears man.

[@666Hazard666]

I used to have an AA Fast china that I would bend inside out when I played. Really used to piss me off because it sounded fantastic till it did that

[@1rmikeratliff]

Now I see why Sabians are God's own expensive. Sorry fellas I believe I will stick with Bosphorus and Wuhan...for real hand made...the old fashioned way.

[@cralenkotter]

If you argue with TheDustyspears youre just giving him satisfaction. Hes just jealous that The Rev was famous and way more talented than he will ever be.

[@TheSuperfakir]

Sabian son uno de los mejores platos. Su brillo. Su claridad. Y su gran variedad de platillos y sonidos. Realmente son geniales.

[@blica1]

LOL !..lots of famous guys working at Sabian..Charlie Brown from "Peanuts", Mike Love form the Beach Boys.....LOL ! I kid you , I kid you...LOL !

[@omarojazz]

Čekoslovaquia??? you didnt know now is call Čzech Republic??? :D

[@junito52]

he is the son of the founder of zildjian but because of some family desputes they split and he took on of the factories and became sabian

[@tophermonkey]

isn't it great that its basically a metal factory until someone hits it with a hammer then its ok to charge £200 + for it... Sod off they are pulling one out every 10 seconds no way are they worth what they charge..

[@homebuiltindoorplane]

Charlie Brown makes his money the same way as Phil Collins does:) Way to go, Charlie!

[@Midas526]

Yeah, it's true; own their stack myself, want that jello like crash, hehe. But out of the major companies, I stand by what I said.

[@LouSassles]

@owenrhysmagic he started sabian because of a legal dispute between the zildjian family so he went out and started a rival company

[@softdev1]

Was about to buy Meinl Polyphonic cymbals until I heard the Sabian Artisan! Hit the brakes!

[@EmersonCapuano]

Phil Collins to Chester: Chester?.... Chester? Him: Yes Phil? Phil: If you are plaining changing your Cymbals, do it right, chose Sabian as i did. Chester: Shure i will. :P

[@MasonBangsDrums]

The Sabian factory used to be where Zildjian made K Constantinople before Bob left, took half the buisness with him, and started making Sabian cymbals in the old K factory. CANADA

[@IJustFiguredThisOut]

It's like comparing Burger King and McDonalds. Both companies have great products, just different versions of them from each other. I personally play Zildjian, but I'll bet you $1,000 if you were listening to a drummer play on a record, and you couldn't see what brand he was playing, you would never know.

[@tscoffey1]

9:54 - And that guy keeps a better time on that cymbal than I ever would.

[@kwamebrown5547]

The rev at 17:45 in the background;)

[@CoversIncorporated]

In my personal Opinion (Please not to start a biased fight) I prefer meinl In opinions of Innovation, However sabian and meinl are Practically neck and neck for innovation,

[@sitizenkanemusic]

who would of thought that a family feud would lead to two (american) companies making the best cymbals in the world?

[@enjoichoclate5]

doing this will also save your sticks I I've had a pair of sticks last me months and i play 5 hours a day every day

[@Xardox17]

My first drum set wasn't half bad, except for the cymbals. They were completely bad. Over the next year, I replaced everything with Paiste, which were OK and cheaper than Zildjian. Sabian was not founded until 1981. I wish they'd been around in the 1960s.

[@carsancak]

ISTANBUL Cymbals forever far away and better from Sabian.

[@drumstudio2000]

I have both zildjian and sabían and sound really great. So muy congrats to these two companies but... still its rare to see bob zildjian promoting a sabían brand... lol. What do u think about it guys?

[@EarosioN]

rob zildjian founded sabian after a family dispute know your stuff

[@FanaticDrummer]

He founded Sabian. He also used the first two letters of his kids names to make the name Sabian. In the company break up, Sabian got all the original artisans. Thats why Sabian surpassed Zildjian in quality and experience for hand hammered products. Zildjian had to train a new factory of noobs lol.

[@DS-wo8wr]

Actually, Robert got the Canada plant that then produced the Zildjian K Series. The US plant that then produced the Zildjian A Series remained in Zildjian hands...

[@jaredmoss9720]

There are obviously a lot of people who don't know the story of the Zildjian family and how Sabian came to be.

[@friedpickles342]

Only sabian I've used thus far is a 15 inch hhx studio crash. Sounds good to me. But doesn't cut through in live gigs. I use my zildjian a medium crashes. 16 n 17 inch.

[@clarkewi]

I love Zildjian's. Are Sabian's made by Zildjian? Are they as good as Zildjians? I have always thought nothing could surpass a Zildjian????