The Dragon Quest Iceberg Explained - sackchief

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sackchief

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@sackchief
@sackchief 3 жыл бұрын
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@bradleyhead7113
@bradleyhead7113 3 жыл бұрын
What if you’re already in it? Lol
@dragtogo2735
@dragtogo2735 3 жыл бұрын
9:11 You forgotten the PS2 version which is the first Remake of Dragon Quest V. 29:09 Torneko in DQVIII that makes sense he would be in though my question is, why young then older and is this the curse of the box of Happiness, I have not played the Torneko series to even know.
@youngnigar525
@youngnigar525 3 жыл бұрын
It kinda sounded like u said “anix “ lol
@muajin
@muajin 3 жыл бұрын
I remember ordering DQ5 from Japan a month or so after it's Japan release. Costed me 140$. Few years later when DQ6 came out, i shelled out 160$ and got it the same week it was released in Japan. I had preordered it well in advance *the lines of people camping to get both were insane at the time* each took me a good 2 years to beat, well worth the price I paid. :D
@muajin
@muajin 3 жыл бұрын
@@dragtogo2735 You should have played 5-6 when they were first released. :D
@catrianheir
@catrianheir 2 жыл бұрын
In DQ11 you can find a book talking about a Dundrasillian general named Dave who survived and became a bandit/pirate who painted everything pink. Sylvando's helmsman is named Dave and wears a pink version of one of those horned masks that some npc's wear.
@streemerz1
@streemerz1 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment, also the game talks about something that Dave has in debt with Servando...maybe he helped him in some way with his past?
@ShinerCCC
@ShinerCCC 3 жыл бұрын
Dragon Warrior IV speedrunner here. Cristo/Kiryl is actually pretty smart about what to cast Beat/Whack on, and he's an all-star in the speedrun route. You take back what you said about mah boi.
@Dwellerinshadow
@Dwellerinshadow 2 жыл бұрын
While this may be true to some extent, and I seem to remember him kind of knowing what monsters were weak to it, the fact remains that he insists on casting his instant death spells on the last boss who is obviously immune to it. Him doing this instead of healing like he should is probably where he got his reputation as an obsessive Beat/Defeat caster. Honestly it must have been some sort of bug in the AI that he'd even try it on a boss.
@OmegaChase1002
@OmegaChase1002 Жыл бұрын
Most people arent speedrunning the game or using unorthodox ways to cheat the rng.
@MinecraftMartin
@MinecraftMartin Жыл бұрын
Push. Most people don't really cares about speedrunner strats but other speedrunners.
@serenavox5540
@serenavox5540 Жыл бұрын
@@Dwellerinshadow that’s actually because the game’s AI registers each stage of the final boss as a separate monster, so you have to go through the whole rigamarole of him casting beat each time. However, if you lose on the final stage and continue on from your last save, the AI will learn this. It doesn’t mean he would never cast it, but it won’t be as bad as the first time. His AI actually learns which enemies are weak to it. I played the game many times as a child and I could predict which monsters he would use it on and if it would work or not.
@Dwellerinshadow
@Dwellerinshadow Жыл бұрын
@@serenavox5540 I didn't know the final boss counted as multiple monsters but thinking about it, it makes sense. I didn't find out about him learning from his mistakes if you lose because I was that kid that would just hit the reset button on the console rather than lose half my gold >.>
@TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS
@TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS 3 жыл бұрын
17:30 My DQ8 fanboy was hurt by this. It's not that he's Dragovian, it's the curse that sealed away his memory that makes you highly resistant to other curses. If the hero had not been cursed as a child he probably would be just as vulnerable to them as other humans.
@davegb555
@davegb555 3 жыл бұрын
That's true, I remember that fact as well! It is explicitly said in a cutscene even!
@BloderModer
@BloderModer 3 жыл бұрын
Tbf to Chief, it IS a dragovian curse, and that explains the curse block.
@TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS
@TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS 3 жыл бұрын
@@BloderModer Yes but most Dragovians aren't going to have this curse because it was one used for a very specific circumstance, that being a human and Dragovian having a child together.
@Basileus127
@Basileus127 3 жыл бұрын
That makes sense, I thought the DQ8 hero was immune to curses because he already was cursed. This actually makes sense mechanically with the older games too since if you have the curse status effect already, then you can't be affected by it again until it is lifted.
@Shinnouryu
@Shinnouryu 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that perfectly as well and questionned the whole video and my memories. Glad it wasn't my memories, that was one the best post-game in any RPG. Teasing you with that curse immunity story for the whole game and just revealing after the end.
@Morgil27
@Morgil27 3 жыл бұрын
"Fans were skipping school and work just to play the game" Including the games' own character artist.
@vroom8795
@vroom8795 3 жыл бұрын
Even the Hunter x Hunter creator
@frials4757
@frials4757 3 жыл бұрын
Just to buy the game*, which is why the Japanese government made a law allowing it to be sold on weekends only.
@Morgil27
@Morgil27 3 жыл бұрын
@@frials4757 That's not true. There is no such law. Enix made it a policy to release the games on weekends, but it is not a law. Plus my original comment still stands. The game's character artist would frequently procrastinate on his main job as a manga artist by constantly playing the latest DQ games. It got so bad that his wife had to take the game away from him.
@FuraFaolox
@FuraFaolox 6 ай бұрын
​@@frials4757me when i spread misinformation
@azurestarseliph5926
@azurestarseliph5926 3 жыл бұрын
Here's a little tidbit I found out In Dragon Quest 5, when you name the Hero, Pankraz would come up with the name "Madasan" before Mada decided on the name you given the Hero. But if you named the Hero Madasan, Pankraz would say Erdrick instead
@sackchief
@sackchief 3 жыл бұрын
I should've included that, thats a classic
@paperluigi6132
@paperluigi6132 3 жыл бұрын
Does the same happen for a similar scene in Dragon Quest XI S?
@majinblackgear5bankaisuper151
@majinblackgear5bankaisuper151 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, you should’ve bro
@GalaxyJakeYT
@GalaxyJakeYT 3 ай бұрын
Years later but there’s also a reference to that in DQ11 when you’re in the flashback where Eleven is born Irwin suggests the name Erdrick
@CritsuKirby
@CritsuKirby 3 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest conspiracy is how Dragon Quest is criminally underrepresented westward. The lore is very well-thought out, it establishes a lot of good RPG design decisions, and it’s the same Toriyama artstyle of DBZ. Maybe it’s a combination of turn-based battles and the over-saturation of medieval/European adventure games back when the franchise was new? There also seems to be a lot of bad timing with the series. Dragon Quest 4 released 9 months before the Super Famicom, yet it didn’t get a remake like its predecessors there. But, Japan did get a 4 remake on PS1... in 2001, so that didn’t come overseas until 2007 on DS. DQ5 strangely wasn’t localized on SNES even though it came out in ‘92. Dragon Quest 6 wasn’t localized either and the game suffered when devs were stretched with it and Chrono Trigger. Dragon Quest 7 released in 2000, localized in 2001, and sold poorly in North America. Finally, Europe only started getting main games with DQ8 in 2006. It might as well have been the same case in North America thanks to a demo of FF12. Man, I used to think Pokémon was bad with its late console releases. This slow release of games creates this lack of momentum that just hurts them overseas. DQ9 and the remakes on DS did a good job with momentum, but then 10 didn’t come out because it was an MMORPG and 11 didn’t come out until 2017. That’s nearly a decade! Wow, I feel old.
@yoman8027
@yoman8027 3 жыл бұрын
The European version of Dragon Quest 8 didn't include the Final Fantasy 12 demo, yet still sold better than in the US. Probably because Toriyama's artstyle was really popular here, thanks to Dragon Ball's success in the 80s.
@xRocketzFighterx
@xRocketzFighterx 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if this is appropriate to mention but DQ 8 and 11's writing and voice acting is the best i've ever seen in any JRPG. I really wish the english translators get alot of recognition for their hard work Voice acting and writing are mostly hit or miss but DQ8 and 11 just knocks it out of the park the writers and actors put so much time and effort into their performance to make the characters really shine and what's kinda sad is that most of the actors who did DQ8 only did that game or only a few acting roles.
@paperluigi6132
@paperluigi6132 10 ай бұрын
A notable standout is that Angelo’s VA also did Alvis from Xenoblade Chronicles.
@SBaby
@SBaby 3 жыл бұрын
22:30 - I actually heard of that. We used to call that the 'Tatsunoko Ending'. Some random person comes up and kills the main character at the end of the game.
@Superstar5_
@Superstar5_ 3 жыл бұрын
I like how angry he sounded during the Erdrick part. Like he was offended that somebody dare name Themselves “Erdrick” without earning the title.
@littlemoth4956
@littlemoth4956 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not very creative so I'm not coming up with a whole new name every time I play a main DQ game. Erdrick is my default
@erdrickthedouchebaghero5399
@erdrickthedouchebaghero5399 3 жыл бұрын
@@littlemoth4956 you call him arusu or arel according to the manga
@strangerdanger1135
@strangerdanger1135 3 жыл бұрын
@@littlemoth4956 DQ I Hero is Alef, DQ II Hero is Allen, DQ III Hero is Arusu (American)/Loto (Japanese), DQ IV Hero is Solo, DQ V Hero is Luca (American)/Abel (Japanese), DQ VI Hero is Tomokazu, DQ VII Hero is Auster (American)/Arus (Japanese), and Dragon Quest Heroes VIII and onward are named after the numbers of their installments (Save DQ X Hero who's name is just "X"). There's a lot more names DQ VII and below Heroes go by, but those are their more common and/or canon names.
@erdrickthedouchebaghero5399
@erdrickthedouchebaghero5399 3 жыл бұрын
@@strangerdanger1135 dq3 is named arel according to the manga and the dq5 hero is actually called madason according to dq6 post game in reapers peak and is also ki d of Canon since if you name him that pankraz will have different dialouge
@molacarthy9173
@molacarthy9173 3 жыл бұрын
Adding to the multiple endings in DQI, the Dragonlord will also acknowledge you carrying the princess along the lines of thanking the Hero for bringing the princess to him.
@Insect_Expert1489
@Insect_Expert1489 3 жыл бұрын
WHHHHHAT
@ghhn4505
@ghhn4505 2 жыл бұрын
wait what
@robd6837
@robd6837 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. Totally true. The lines are funny to boot! 1st time i did it... ha! So excited the DL acknowledged her being with me..
@2nii2
@2nii2 3 жыл бұрын
Queen medusa is so fascinating because we don't know her purpose or her full design and the fact she's so obscure no developers mentioned her makes her interesting
@medikor9190
@medikor9190 2 жыл бұрын
She kinda looks like the medusa motif that used to be on the silver shield in early DQ art.
@logans.7932
@logans.7932 3 жыл бұрын
The funniest thing about the Gadabout is the fact that the item you normally need to turn someone of another class into a Sage can be found... in a hour that's only a few seconds walk away from the place where characters can swap vocations. Nice work, y'all.
@nofate5393
@nofate5393 3 жыл бұрын
This was always a solid strategy to having 2 sages for end game
@molacarthy9173
@molacarthy9173 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the dungeon where it's found is pretty brutal.
@pont1695
@pont1695 3 жыл бұрын
"They were planning on having a Princess of Cannock come out of the crowd and stab you for killing her brother." ... *WHAT*
@KKristof100
@KKristof100 3 жыл бұрын
- Lanson is the one that represents Australia in DQ3 and the Aliahan continent is fictional, also "cooe" is used only in the English version. - Kiryl's AI is also tend to heal Alena immediately, even when she takes only a little damage. - What!? They've cut out the "It seemed to be great last night!" scene in Tantegel!? Even if you take the princess, not that random girl!? That was one icon of DQ1!! - The hero of 8 is immune to curse not just because he has a Dragovian origin, but because the Dragovian curse which sealed his memories was so strong that he got a perfect immunity against any other curse. -I've never tried saying no to Valenitina, but there's a similar scene in DQ6, when you say no to Madame Luca when she asks to go to that cave. If you keep saying no, she gives up, doesn't give you the medicinal herbs and Milly's not gonna go along with you to the cave. - I'm always doing it with the Venus' Tear. I even go to Pickham straight from Peregrin Quay (or whatever the English name is) so I defeat the Trap Box without Angelo...
@yoman8027
@yoman8027 3 жыл бұрын
The Aliahan continent is based on the mythical lost continent of Mu.
@leargamma4912
@leargamma4912 2 жыл бұрын
They took out the dialogue in DQ 1 because modern square enix has an ethics department
@KKristof100
@KKristof100 2 жыл бұрын
@@leargamma4912 “Such a pity…”
@yoman8027
@yoman8027 Жыл бұрын
@@dustbin5044 Mu is fictional. There are maps of its design because is part of ancient fiction. Just like there are maps of Westeros or the Middle Earth.
@rodrigomendez8902
@rodrigomendez8902 3 жыл бұрын
In Dragon Quest VIII, if you complete the events of Ascantha and the wisher's peak before Angelo joins your party, there will be different party chat dialogue with Yangus and Jessica telling you that the banquette with King Pavan was cool, but they need to focus on pursuing Dhoulmagus. Then, if you complete the events of Maella Abbey, when you leave, you will see the original scene that was supossed to happen when you leave Ascantha after the banquette, only that this time King Trode will be upset because he was imprisoned and treated as a monster by Marcello and the templars, and then Yangus will have the idea of going to Pickham. I have never seen that scene in any gameplay on youtube, all the gameplays I have watched recruit Angelo first and then go for Ascantha. I also wanted to see if it was possible to go to Pickham without Angelo, but the Wisher's Peak was already too hard without him, I don't think I have the skill nor the patience to grind levels with Hero Yangus and Jessica to go to Pickham without Angelo, but I think it would be possible. I may try to do that in the next days. Nice video!
@doctornuck
@doctornuck 3 жыл бұрын
THAT explains the tockle quest in DQ11, about the guy that shared his map that lead to the king metal slimes in the Ruby path of doom
@skittlesgaming9397
@skittlesgaming9397 3 жыл бұрын
You know how in dragon quest 11 you get introduced to Maximilien and l’Académie de notre maître des médailles right? He tasks you with collecting mini-medals and rewards you with equipment or recipes the more you gather. After collecting 100ish medals he gives you, and I’m not joking; Erdrick’s Shield. Out of nowhere, sitting in the office of a fat French principal, lies the second best shield in the game.
@paperluigi6132
@paperluigi6132 3 жыл бұрын
Second best? What's the best shield, and where can you obtain it?
@skittlesgaming9397
@skittlesgaming9397 3 жыл бұрын
@@paperluigi6132 The best shield in the game is actually Drustan's shield, exclusive to Hendrik, as it gives the most defense. I believe you can find it in a chest in one of Drustan's trial. As for the universal best shield, It is the metal king shield. You receive the recipy , again as the last reward for collecting 115 mini-medals
@skittlesgaming9397
@skittlesgaming9397 3 жыл бұрын
Also, the weird egg form in erdwin’s lantern is briefly spotted during the cutscene where (spoilers) mordegon destroys the lantern in the second act of the game
@GinSepTinIsDad
@GinSepTinIsDad 2 жыл бұрын
Happens in dqix aswell, you can casually get the rusty varient which you alchemise into erdrick armor
@oaajbs
@oaajbs 3 жыл бұрын
Well now i understand were the "Ruby Path of Doom" quest in the switch version of DQ XI S came from.
@CMF412
@CMF412 3 жыл бұрын
The keifer one makes a bit more sense when you think about how he has the secret lvl boost to 666 resistance that you mentioned earlier in the vid.
@johnnyscifi
@johnnyscifi 3 жыл бұрын
I like how the upgraded final sword in dq11 looks like a fusion of both erdricks sword, and the zenithian!!!
@SorcererLance
@SorcererLance 3 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda unsure on the Erdrick being from Australia bit... I was under the impression Aliahan was the equivalent of the mythical continent of Mu, which is basically the Pacific's version of Atlantis. Now the island WEST of his home continent, Lanson, definitely is a bit more Australia-based
@justingates4985
@justingates4985 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct, Australia was the continent to the West of Aliahan.
@geminate
@geminate 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Aliahan is not Australia.
@smug8135
@smug8135 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he’s New Zealander then
@ncriggar
@ncriggar 3 жыл бұрын
One thing you forgot to mention here is the special “Ortega’s Death” theme that is only on the North American DQIII releases. when Ortega dies against King Hydra, a special song plays that is not even on the ROM in the Japanese version.
@paperluigi6132
@paperluigi6132 10 ай бұрын
Is that only in the NES version, or did future ports include it as well?
@MayHugger
@MayHugger 2 жыл бұрын
19:27 Speaking of that ruby path of doom, dq11 S has a reference to it, as when you speak to Aquila, he mentions the phrase “ruby path of doom” suddenly entered his mind when you first talk to him.
@TheRealAmericanMan
@TheRealAmericanMan 3 жыл бұрын
The Dragon moving his head is used when you go to save the Princess in DQ1 When you use the action button on him he wakes up and faces you before you battle.
@Vyse___
@Vyse___ 3 жыл бұрын
This video is awesome✊🏽 As a fellow creator who covers Dragon Quest, your videos inspire me to strive to get better! This one taught me so much cool trivia I had no idea about, DQ is truly underrated.
@sackchief
@sackchief 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@mak_707
@mak_707 3 жыл бұрын
I actually used a Gadabout in my first original run of DQIII without knowing what's his secret was. I just thought that using a clown was cute and he misses just like Torneko in IV.
@spencerbove5437
@spencerbove5437 3 жыл бұрын
After I beat DQ3 on Switch I was shocked to learn about the Super Famicom remake that had animated monster sprites
@SorcererLance
@SorcererLance 3 жыл бұрын
it's baffling since every remake supposedly improved things from the previous version... SFC added animated battle sprites, GBC version added collectable medals, Switch/iOS got... HD art, I guess
@spencerbove5437
@spencerbove5437 3 жыл бұрын
It deserved much better for being such an important game
@shadowcomments6481
@shadowcomments6481 3 жыл бұрын
Good news did you see the new remake trailer ?
@spencerbove5437
@spencerbove5437 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowcomments6481 when I saw the trailer I thought of this, very excited for the remake
@MidlifeCrisisJoe
@MidlifeCrisisJoe 3 жыл бұрын
Well the Octopath team is remaking DQ3 now in HD and it's gonna have lots of animated sprites, so we're gonna be all good in a bit.
@aBDKstan
@aBDKstan 3 жыл бұрын
I like that your avatar keeps getting more ripped
@homestuck_official
@homestuck_official 3 жыл бұрын
You can also get the inn easter egg by sleeping in one while you carry the princess!
@ShamanNoodles
@ShamanNoodles 3 жыл бұрын
When i was in middle school, i had a gameshark for gameboy that let you use a memory scanner, and i found the dq1+2 pikachu AND gundam entirely by accident, and it totally creeped me tf out
@SBaby
@SBaby 3 жыл бұрын
19:36 - The Ruby Path of Doom is the famous map that ended up becoming the name of an optional area in Dragon Quest XI S.
@Quintingent
@Quintingent 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but the boss of that area is a conglomeration of Metal King Slimes who are upset at how they've been repeatedly hunted for EXP.
@undertakernumberone1
@undertakernumberone1 2 жыл бұрын
17:35 the hero being uncursable has nothing to do with being Half-Dragovian. The Curse the Dragovians put on the hero to seal his memories had the side effect of cancelling out any other curses.
@gaothhermesk1289
@gaothhermesk1289 Жыл бұрын
To clatify, those huge Nazca Lines are not Incan, there are from the Nazca civilization, one of the many, many peruavian cultures before the Incas. Saying all of this as Peruavian DQ fan, and i'm really glad they included those references to our ancient cultures.
@derekstapleton3396
@derekstapleton3396 3 жыл бұрын
A correction for your trivia about the Hero of DQ8. The reason he is resistant to curses is not because of his nature as a dragovian, but because he is already cursed. A curse was placed upon him at birth by the leader of the dragovians that would seal away his memories resulting in him being completely ignorant of his own origins. The curse is strong enough to not be overpowered or removed by any other curses or blessings like that of Rapthorne's curse which destroyed the kingdom of Trodain.
@rickydargence5948
@rickydargence5948 3 жыл бұрын
There is something that has been bugging me ever since I played DQ3 and could probably be a theory, but I never see this discussed. Where did Zoma come from? In DQ3 when you fall into the hole, you reach the "underworld" which is the DQ1 world, supposedly it's underground almost as if the earth had a second layer below it where DQ1 and 2 takes place. Yet, when you are there, you are told that Zoma came from ANOTHER hole in the northern cave, but that's it, there is no further discussion nor lore about this hole other than your characters (Somehow) pop from there after defeating Zoma. The theory is, could Zoma come from another world even deeper below Alefgard? Just how deep does it go, are there maybe more worlds below it?... And if it is underground, how does the "day and night" cycle work exactly? Someone once told me that Alefgard whas not literally underground and that it was a different dimension but the game never clarifies it and all you are told is that it lies below the DQ3 since you and Ortega fell through holes to reach it. (On another note, could Erdrick also have spanish ancestry due to his father's name? which is actually a last name in spanish, meaning his true name is "Erdrick Ortega"?).
@erdrickthedouchebaghero5399
@erdrickthedouchebaghero5399 3 жыл бұрын
There's a theory that says zoma conquered more world's than one seen in the game,the cave he came out from is called "nail mark" and that hole is supposed to be a portal he created to reach alefgard it also says he has more disciples than baramos that conquered world's for him so he wanted to let his last servant to take the world above
@rickydargence5948
@rickydargence5948 3 жыл бұрын
@@erdrickthedouchebaghero5399 That's a nice take, never seen this discussed nor this theory either, that's a good one.
@medikor9190
@medikor9190 2 жыл бұрын
My theory is DQ VI is connected to the Erdrick trilogy. The area of Murdaw's Keep and Rubiss' temple is pretty similar to the map of DQI. It's not a perfect match, but that could be explained by the land shift and changing over who knows how many ages.
@theenbee8222
@theenbee8222 5 ай бұрын
I have to say that DQ9 is probably my favorite even though I wish the game would just let you play more files and buy the DLC without needing to jump through as many hoops as you do nowadays; a modern switch re-release might make it one of the most successful games of the modern era if they did it right, but they'd have to update the graphics for modern hardware
@Koning038
@Koning038 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge dude! It's great to learn more about one of the most influential JRPG series out there
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh! I bet I know why the Bunny Girl's voice changes each time! Probably because she's actually the Seer! That would explain the mystery of what she's even doing on this random abandoned floating island in the middle of nowhere. I always wondered that myself actually. All they really had to do to reveal a lot of this lore was to have random books on the bookshelves contain some of this lore about the more mysterious areas. Instead we get a bunch of random boring stories about stuff mostly unrelated to the game or only related in very loose ways. Most of the stuff you read on the bookshelves in the game is pretty boring, but it could have been so much better! And yes, I have read EVERY SINGLE BOOK in the entire game and talked to every single NPC. I have absolutely poured over this game in every aspect and probably have 1,000 hours or more of real game time into it! It's a LONG freaking game if you really take your time. It's got an insane amount of content.
@diegobrando5800
@diegobrando5800 3 жыл бұрын
DQ11s German names are changed for some reason: Sylvando -> Rionaldo Rab -> Bodo Gemma -> Sandra and many more
@Silent_Fool
@Silent_Fool 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I find is that Sylvando’s JP name was Sylvia. Which is ironic when you learn that “O” is masculine and “A” is feminine.
@christopherlaudon6975
@christopherlaudon6975 3 жыл бұрын
i really dislike these changes
@diegobrando5800
@diegobrando5800 3 жыл бұрын
i dont like them either, especially since the german version is just subbed so you hear the real name but read the „translated?“ name
@MegaWTFgamer
@MegaWTFgamer 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I didn't know that about Ashlynn! It's always cool to see fan theories becoming true.
@wilfred5179
@wilfred5179 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I really want to see you cover more Dragon Quest lore theories. I’d like to see you cover the timeline split theory from DQ11 from when the Luminary travels to the past
@Prolyfic8
@Prolyfic8 3 жыл бұрын
I could add one more thing on the iceberg, where characters from the Shiren series do appear in a few Dragon Quest spin-off games.
@darkwillalex
@darkwillalex 3 жыл бұрын
Did you know the stone naming from Heliodor in XI is very similar to a early 90s novel (Seirei Rubiss Densetsu) where Spirits also have gems based names? Rubiss, Dialto, Emeralda... They also have fish based last name.
@HerohammerStudios
@HerohammerStudios Жыл бұрын
It's not a very unique concept. I'm not surprised
@daver7547
@daver7547 3 жыл бұрын
Just finished DQ11. It was an excellent game and the detail throughout was awesome. I loved the post game teasers. Can't wait for DQ12.
@Aelrandir
@Aelrandir 3 жыл бұрын
Great work on this video. I'm a pretty hardcore fan, and even I learned a few things here. There's really not enough Dragon Quest content on KZbin, so keep doing what you're doing.
@gevodanl7082
@gevodanl7082 3 жыл бұрын
I really want to thank you for adding subtiles. I’m not English and it really helped me through the whole video.
@craigdee9336
@craigdee9336 2 жыл бұрын
Dark Cloud 1 & 2 are still some of my favorites from when PS2 was first released. Still haven't seen anything else that resembled those games.
@SierraGustafson
@SierraGustafson Жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only Dark Cloud fan on here! 😊
@hessian144
@hessian144 2 жыл бұрын
i remember putting a rediculous amount of time in dragon warrior 2 on the NES. its amazing the things you forget. i dont remember the prince getting sick at all.
@BloderModer
@BloderModer 3 жыл бұрын
The first game had the town theme but remixed with pizzicato strings, not intermezzo from IV! I think it's the same for builders 1.
@Antiyonder
@Antiyonder 2 жыл бұрын
I think the overall theory of Kiefer/Orgodemir based on what one fan told me is that he might have originally been possessed around the time that the Roamers had their failed ceremony and how his departure rubbed fans the wrong way. You know him already finding a purpose by finding the Fragments, yet claiming he had still been looking for his purpose. Also: 1. Aishe arguably having the least interms of story presence having only been added to provide a substitute for him. 2. Yeah part of it is based on the then upcoming remake of IV and how Psaro is not only purified from the Secret of Evolution, but joins the party. Meaning Kiefer would be separated from Orgodemir and rejoin, along with Lala. Heck, much like how Faraday is later empty near the end of the game of inhabitants as Zamoksva had the same thing happen in the original and remake of IV. 3. Things backing it up include the Super Kiefer bit with the heavy Resilience increase and how he is able to equip some gear from even after the Alltrades Abbey scenario.
@WilfredCthulu
@WilfredCthulu 3 жыл бұрын
An indicator on what entry you're talking about as well as showing the chart itself more would be good, but otherwise this is really cool. There's some indicators by the way that Erdrick was meant to be the base alt in Smash. His iconicness is one thing, but also other things such as how he's typically chosen for more promotional things such as the second anniversary image and most of all Sephiroth's trailer. If this is true they may have changed it to Luminary late in for dumb reasons like "Oh he's the newest guy people might recognize him, use him so people buy his game." Personally I wish Erdrick was the base especially when taking longevity into mind.
@Phoenixryu
@Phoenixryu 3 жыл бұрын
In DQ 11 you can't name the main character Robert. It's kind of silly IMO but w/o going too much into spoiler territory people in the same family often pass names down through the generations...
@BenoJ3000
@BenoJ3000 2 жыл бұрын
So I just did this...
@marbleeuw4284
@marbleeuw4284 Жыл бұрын
They patched this
@Phoenixryu
@Phoenixryu Жыл бұрын
@@marbleeuw4284 That's nice to hear, many years too late for me though.
@misterzia01
@misterzia01 3 жыл бұрын
about the Estark theory, when he appears in the 3ds version of dragon quest 8 he states that he doesn't know if he was good or evil so that could actually hint towards his ambiguous origins as a hero turned villain
@erdrickthedouchebaghero5399
@erdrickthedouchebaghero5399 3 жыл бұрын
he also said that in dq5 in the bonus dungeon
@lapisphilosophorum2313
@lapisphilosophorum2313 2 жыл бұрын
In the GBC version of DQ1, if you go to the inn in Tantegel and stay the night, the same scene occurs as if the girl that follows you in town spent the night.
@SolidN8
@SolidN8 3 жыл бұрын
Not planning on getting into dragon quest, I just like how Ichiban brings up Dragon Quest anytime he can in Yakuza 7
@TheEnigmaticBM39
@TheEnigmaticBM39 3 жыл бұрын
Dragon quest 11 was good
@Ryan707_-_
@Ryan707_-_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheEnigmaticBM39 all of them are good
@perrodpelea
@perrodpelea 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding work right here as always!! Couldnt expect less from the DQ fan club chief It was time for someone to expose all the amazing myths this franchise holds, thank you so much for this! I’d love to see a part 2 from this series
@draganskoda
@draganskoda 3 жыл бұрын
The main character doesn't live in Australia. Australia is the continent to the left, with Lancel on it. Aliahan, where the main character is from, lies on a continent which has no equivalent on our Earth. Maybe the legendary continent Mu.
@sanguinephoenix5892
@sanguinephoenix5892 3 жыл бұрын
With DQ 11 the black dragon hidden scene can be done if you are playing the definitely edition and go to 2D mode then back to 3D mode and choose to go back to the beginning of the of the game. And doing that is an unofficial new game plus where you don't get to bring back any quest items.
@SavagePassion666
@SavagePassion666 4 ай бұрын
I'm very curious about how this works actually. I know it can be used for item replication but my biggest question is do the characters keep the levels and stats?
@brobean5437
@brobean5437 3 жыл бұрын
The first of the three DQ11 glyphs is definitely supposed to be Cetacea, not the world tree (I tried to spell it, failed). You can see the wings, the tail, the horn on the armor, etc. Still an amazing video, and its a minor thing in a sea of great facts, still though it was worth pointing out
@Ramble1234
@Ramble1234 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video bro. I've been wanting to see a DQ iceberg for a while and I'm glad I've learned stuff that I didn't even know. Props to you for doing it. I've been wanting to replay DQ11 since it's been my fav DQ game or maybe the whole series? Maybe eventually since I got a lot of games on my plate. Awesome video.
@Morgil27
@Morgil27 3 жыл бұрын
I still have a demo disc of DQ8 that I got from the old American version of Shonen Jump magazine.
@scottcameron3030
@scottcameron3030 3 жыл бұрын
I was completely shocked by that Calasmos one. I guess it makes sense that there would be some kind of larval state, but I never would've guessed! Truly interesting
@emmanuelemenike6723
@emmanuelemenike6723 3 жыл бұрын
*Someone sneezes* Kiryl: WHACK
@bazuzu5
@bazuzu5 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the video. You gonna go to that Dragon Quest island theme park in Japan when it opens? That would be a cool video
@TheDeelunatic
@TheDeelunatic 3 жыл бұрын
3:25 You'd think that, but that's a localization thing of more recent versions of the game, not in the original games, let alone in Japanese. That said the island to the left of the start location more resembles Australia (You know, the one that has the town of Lancel in the GBC version), especially with that desert area through the middle and consider the scale of it compared to other contenents) while the starting Aliahan is, other than a good jump in point to learn how the game works before it opens up to you, would be Zelandia (check out continent plate maps to see what I mean) or potentially Antarctica before shifting south. Or even just an add in where a compass rose would be. Point is, even though the map is very similar to a real world map, there's some distinct shaping differences that screams a time way before current tectonic plate positions.
@yoman8027
@yoman8027 3 жыл бұрын
The island where Aliahan is located is based on the mythical lost continent of Mu.
@bigrathole
@bigrathole 2 жыл бұрын
The "cooee" being used as a smoking gun for the hero being Australian feels pretty tenuous tbh. It's as british as it is auzzie, especially if you're trying to evoke on olde vibe (as old as the 50s at least lol). However, the continents thing, yeah, can't argue with that. Also, awesome video man, thanks for all of this!
@gaminevilmushroom7571
@gaminevilmushroom7571 3 жыл бұрын
24:50 this part reminds me of how in hylics you can get Somsnosa's gauntlets before she joins the party
@TheShyWhiteMage
@TheShyWhiteMage 3 жыл бұрын
Dragon Quest is my favorite franchise of all time, but even the idea that we could have had a Dark Cloud 3 knowing we never got it is pretty sad.
@nubnoobsly
@nubnoobsly 11 ай бұрын
7:06 The animation of kiryl failing to cast thwack in DQ Heroes is actually a reference to dragon quest monster battle road victory, where an identical animation is seen for one of his finishers.
@catgoddness
@catgoddness 3 жыл бұрын
When I first played DQ11 and got to the black dragon while I was running, my game glitched I think and somehow next thing I know I beat the dragon without laying a finger on it and saw the scene I thought that was meant to happen didn't know it was an extra thing.
@AlohaGamester
@AlohaGamester Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this video. I’ve been searching for a good in depth DQ history, lore, etc. video and I think I’ve finally found it!
@derkretschesven
@derkretschesven 3 жыл бұрын
just by seeing your video i recognized how the DQXI Worldmap resembles the real World. You can clearly see North and South America, Europe, Asia and Australia. So many hidden things. Great Video.
@spg225
@spg225 3 жыл бұрын
DQ3 having the game react a certain way to a special name is actually amazing.
@SBaby
@SBaby 3 жыл бұрын
23:44 - It should also be noted that they parodied this picture in La-Mulana, if you got through the optional area of the game.
@AnAverageGoblin
@AnAverageGoblin 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Kiryl: Yo this shit is WHACK
@mr79843
@mr79843 3 жыл бұрын
Cool Video man. I love Dragon Quest so much and this was some cool info of which some of it I didn't know. Thanks for making this.
@ismaeltevenal7492
@ismaeltevenal7492 Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad they changed Meena/Nara's HP growth in the subsequent remakes of DQ IV. Her HP growth was practically nonexistent in the original halting a potentially needed healer.
@michelrodrigues3771
@michelrodrigues3771 3 жыл бұрын
The new monster in the dq4 medal set looks like Mystic Juliante from DQX
@balzac308
@balzac308 3 жыл бұрын
Great video on one of my favorite series! Thank you for all of the research! Made my day!
@happosaai
@happosaai 3 жыл бұрын
Nintendo sent me a hat for buying DQ9 back when it released. It's my favorite hat and I still wear it to this day!
@nintendo8127
@nintendo8127 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Aliahan was based on Atlantis. Learn something new everyday. Love this video.
@johnny718bravo
@johnny718bravo 3 ай бұрын
Thank you the DQ videos. I'm replaying the games 1 by 1.
@Methrael
@Methrael 3 жыл бұрын
@42:50 - that's not Yggrasil, that's the fully powered version of Cetacea. Horn on the front and all.
@sackchief
@sackchief 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I messed up that part, it was too late by the time I noticed
@XtianApi
@XtianApi 2 жыл бұрын
With such effort put into knowing the dq series, you could probably ask the devs about some of this and get answers. Great video
@JMrealgamer
@JMrealgamer 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so thankful for videos like these. Thank you! It would have been so cool if they didn’t make so many changes but that’s okay. Favorite RPG series of all time!
@Fauntleroy.
@Fauntleroy. 3 жыл бұрын
Aliahan is not Australia. The smaller continent in the south ocean is shaped just like Australia and has a big center in the desert, like Australia does. Rather, Erdrick comes from the only country that doesn't correspond to any place in the real world, which seems appropriate.
@Szarekh
@Szarekh 3 жыл бұрын
also gonna say the Ruby path of doom made it into the DQ 9 segment of DQ 11. Being mentioned in Aquila’s quest
@akiradkcn
@akiradkcn 2 жыл бұрын
Thats pretty cool
@quillx7020
@quillx7020 3 жыл бұрын
THUMBNAIL GAME ON POINT
@Silent_Fool
@Silent_Fool 3 жыл бұрын
Here’s an crazy coincidence I found out in DQXI. In the JP dub, Serena’s JP voice actor is Sora Amamiya who plays also plays Kasumi Yoshizawa. *SPOILERS FOR P5R’S THIRD SEMESTER!* Which is ironic and interesting that she plays both Kasumi and Sumire. Think about it, Sumire and Serena are young twin sister while Kasumi and Veronica are the oldest twin sister. Sumire and Serena feel like they’re not the same like their sisters. However, something bad happens to them which turns out that Kasumi and Veronica sacrificed themselves to save Sumire and Serena. The youngest twin sister feels like it’s their own fault for this. Later, Sumire and Serena stands up themselves and do something with their hairs, Sumire tied up her hair to be like Kasumi while Serena cuts her hair which the Arborians did at Veronica’s funeral. They fight for the world not by Sumire, Serena or others, but their oldest twin sisters inside them.
@geekdaparaiba
@geekdaparaiba 3 жыл бұрын
I guess that it wasn't much of a coincidence.... Maybe this was intentional?
@Silent_Fool
@Silent_Fool 3 жыл бұрын
@@geekdaparaiba you know what’s more ironic. DQXIS was released at the end of Sep 2019. P5R’s Japanese release was at the end of Oct 2019. Almost a month apart between these two even though P5R’s west release came out at the end of Mar 2020.
@perrodpelea
@perrodpelea 3 жыл бұрын
I had no clue of the pop version of only lonely boy, that was my favorite part of the whole iceberg I now like that the even more and i really think the fact that sugiyama decided tu include it in the game it’s beautiful
@davejeba2767
@davejeba2767 Жыл бұрын
I'm sad that the video is over. I wish there were more videos on easter eggs throughout the series. Great video!!!!
@SilentVinyl
@SilentVinyl 3 жыл бұрын
Insane and unlikely theories are the fun ones
@princeshadow13
@princeshadow13 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, wasn't DQ8's hero resistance to curses due to his memory getting erased through a curse from the dragon god?
@shinjiluigi
@shinjiluigi 3 жыл бұрын
Idk how i got here but dragon quest looks like somthing i definitely need to play
@zh7334
@zh7334 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I really enjoyed the fact about the bunny girl actors.
@zh7334
@zh7334 3 жыл бұрын
You don't like the switch remake brecause it removed one insignificant easter egg? I don't think that makes much sense.
@GreenRetroman
@GreenRetroman 3 жыл бұрын
wooooooo really love this video thanks for sharing all your knowledge
@mikehunt9884
@mikehunt9884 3 жыл бұрын
They mentionned the dragon quest 3 fiasco in the game Yakuza 0, theres a sidequest about a kid trying to buy the game Ara-Q3, and he keeps saying he needs to find his Arakure, i guess Ara-Q3 = Dora-Q3, i think they call dragon quest dora q in japan, kind of as an abbreviation to dragon quest..
@pikaace
@pikaace 4 ай бұрын
Oh my god, that Metal King Slime Ruby Path of Doom map...THEY REFERENCED THAT IN DQ11!! In Tickington, if you go to the Ruby Path of Doom, you can get a quest about someone sharing this map that is supposed to grant you tons of rewards, but adventurers are getting beaten up constantly! You travel down and find it's a Metal King Slime who's pissed off and tired of being used for grinding! The fact that the devs pay attention to what their fans do and implement it into their games is AMAZING.
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