Saddling Gracie Again And Showing How A Bad Horse Trainer Can Make A Good Horse Look Bad

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@abigail1023
@abigail1023 2 жыл бұрын
Gracie doesn't have a mean bone in her body. Even when panicked and bucking wildly she never tried to hurt you.
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
That's true
@thegildedagemadonnabe
@thegildedagemadonnabe 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent training, and I love how soft spoken you are. Both of those things alone make a horse more relaxed. Animals should never be yelled at or put under pressure cause then they get confused and don't know what to do.
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, I really appreciate that. Yes, yelling is not helpful
@starlenekalinski5633
@starlenekalinski5633 3 жыл бұрын
That was a very good demonstration. You're not only a good horse trainer, you're a good teacher.
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much :)
@mk6945
@mk6945 3 жыл бұрын
I love her trust in you. She checked in with you numerous times. Since you did those slo mo exercises, I watch her eyes a lot more. Thanks for demonstrating what on the surface might seem not a big deal, but in the end will set the horse and trainer up for success. (Your touchy exercise) She reminds me of a big puppy. :)
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome. I'm glad the slomo stuff is connecting to things like this. Thanks for letting me know!
@Lilian040210
@Lilian040210 2 жыл бұрын
"Gracie realized there's something on her back" made me realize that to a horse "something on their back" usually means a predator... This is most likely their preservation instincts kicking in... And for animals who can go from alive to dead within a few seconds "panic and run away first, think what it was later" is actually making a lot of sense...
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much it! you've got it.
@SFD-Horses
@SFD-Horses 3 жыл бұрын
Always leave your horse better than the way you found it. ‘Better horse, better you”! Love it!
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
So true!
@ciclid
@ciclid 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing her reach up to meet your hand for a pet is likely the sweetest thing I have ever seen in my life
@Sunshinexoxo4795
@Sunshinexoxo4795 Жыл бұрын
Graecie is a beautiful horse and I live her disposition. She's still growing, and I see a great future for her.
@rose84media56
@rose84media56 2 жыл бұрын
Gracie is such a beautiful horse. I love her coloring and how she is a bit quirky.
@tarhabrown8038
@tarhabrown8038 2 жыл бұрын
She loves all your pets. Her face is so happy when you’re touching her.
@mcrickyd32
@mcrickyd32 3 жыл бұрын
this was a cool video. i like your editing of pulling related clips from past videos you did, really helps with providing context. fantastic job.
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! Thank you very much for saying so :)
@Beachy1955
@Beachy1955 2 жыл бұрын
I can tell how much the horses trust you. I enjoy hearing your calm demeanor so I’m sure the horses enjoy that also. It’s such a shame more people couldn’t be like you. 👍🏼💕
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@jodyinglis913
@jodyinglis913 2 жыл бұрын
I love how some horse owners are going out of their way to learn better methods and use tack that considers the horse more.
@shea5638
@shea5638 8 ай бұрын
What a doll. She has the sweetest little face 💕
@joniatoms9798
@joniatoms9798 2 жыл бұрын
Yey! Gracie!! I appreciate you showing the horse language: how different horses interpret touches etc.
@trinc9015
@trinc9015 2 жыл бұрын
I love the patience, understanding and love you use. The trust built is beautiful.
@ada.equestrian4817
@ada.equestrian4817 2 жыл бұрын
You handled the bucking situation so good
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@AkaiJedi
@AkaiJedi 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't hear a sneeze so I thought she got scared of her fallen poop. :D
@aileen694
@aileen694 3 жыл бұрын
These are all great reminders in handling, Graeme. How our energy and our approach to a new or "touchy" activity can affect the outcome. Thanks!
@peterk8909
@peterk8909 2 жыл бұрын
Experience told me that when she pooped, she was "lightening the load", getting ready to go. Nice job figuring out that it wasn't the saddle.
@bmolitor615
@bmolitor615 2 жыл бұрын
I am convinced that our great relationship with both dogs and horses is based in part on how itchy they are. It's a small part of relationship building, but a significant part - it's such a gateway to "the house-ape's finger-touch and closeness is gooooood..."
@lisa-marie5981
@lisa-marie5981 2 жыл бұрын
What an nice Mare! She looks soooo calm and friendly
@martineinfrance
@martineinfrance 3 жыл бұрын
She is so sweet,! Yes, compared with last year where she could apply for a rodeo contest, she is day and night. A good scritching in the right place certainly helps. A different you also. That could serve as an example why some horses tolerate certain people and not others. The way we are with them influences their trust and response.
@darthtaiter
@darthtaiter 2 жыл бұрын
There are NO Bad Horses.... just Crappy Trainers.
@misschieflolz1301
@misschieflolz1301 3 жыл бұрын
I'm no expert as I don't necessarily train horses myself ( ridden, schooled and handled all sorts at a riding school that tried too hard to be a stud farm at the same time. That went as bad as you'd expect with it understaffed and I was just a volunteer) but I've always found that firm but fair approach whilest remaining calm and not introducing any excitement or nervous energy makes the world of difference. That's reinforced if you've built up trust and a good bond with the horses. There was a case where, I didn't have a bond with this pony, but his owner wasn't very knowledgeable and he was a pitty purchase becaue he was a colt with very little handling, was underfed and generally not looked after. As it was going into winter he didn't have the fat reserves to weather it (He turned out to be a Welsh pony, not sure if he was C or D but he was of a cob type; typically these guys can get really fluffy and brush off the wet winter weather); they'd tried to introduce him to rugs but this person wasn't exactly the bravest and equally as skittish. I decided there was no point in hiding the rug or trying to sneak it on him since he'd eventually have to get used to that sort of thing. After a bit of time just meeting him, I folded his rug into thirds and just tossed it over his back gently. It flapped, he jumped, and then was fine. A bit nervous about the belly straps but I was really impressed with how well he took the whole thing when I'd heard he'd been terrible. It was actually a shame she couldn't keep him as I used to turn him out in the school the following year and he was turning out into a beautiful moving animal. He would have done someone really good for showing or competition
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds about right to me for an approach to training, always be fair and kind.
@LayllasLocker
@LayllasLocker 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha. That ear position when they get angry is soooo cute. XD Terrifying, but cute. Like cats :D ♥
@missys
@missys 3 жыл бұрын
I believe the moral of the story is...give Jenn some allergy medicine. LOL 😂 jk Jenn! But you are right! Not that I need to tell you that! Working with horses is a team sport. It's like working on a group project with someone who doesn't speak your language. You have to bring your best you and knowledge to the table.....and a whole boat load of patience. Gracie has come a long way from the video of when you tried to pick her up from her previous owner. She's such an amazing girl ❤️😍 and a true testimonial to your gentle work with her. You can just tell she's happier and in a better place mentally. ❤️
@Scarlettemberly
@Scarlettemberly 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing and just wanna say how mazing you are and how calm she is however i laughed so dang hard because as soon as gracie pooped and she felt better she literally was like now i feel the saddle 😅😂😂🤣
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much :)
@tinachippas7075
@tinachippas7075 2 жыл бұрын
The very picture of trusting innocence.
@davec.486
@davec.486 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I enjoyed your video. She is very pretty. I love her head and kind eyes. :)
@thereseandersson3432
@thereseandersson3432 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Will def follow and watch through your other videos when i have the time. I work with an anxious horse who have had a hard time finding joy in leaving the pasture because it has always meant unpleasant experiences. Im trying to start doing +R only because thats what Ive gotten the sense would work best for us atm. Hes been a bit icklish about rides but its getting much better now that we have a motivator that doesnt make him respond in helplessmode or stressmode 😬
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I hope things work out for you and your horse
@susanthornburg5200
@susanthornburg5200 3 жыл бұрын
WOW I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS ONE..GREAT WORK THANKS 😎💙😇
@royalty77724
@royalty77724 2 жыл бұрын
She sure has calmed down alot
@myhappygecko2895
@myhappygecko2895 2 жыл бұрын
Ohh I want a video about checkins!!! I noticed a few days in a row of riding that horses (two different ones totally different barns) when I was about to get on them or had just gotten on them came and touched their nose to my foot. I did nt feel it was friendly or not friendly, I almost felt like they were annoyed.. or wanting me to GO or something.. confusing.
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
I can probably do that... I expect they were just sniffing your boots as they had been somewhere interesting to them.
@henryandthehorses5085
@henryandthehorses5085 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful that she was so touchy the other day but, she handled the saddle quite well. And it's finally Autumn again, my favorite season of the year.
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, we're in autumn now and it's showing... leaves all over the place.. rain.. getting colder. Good time for fires in the fireplace :)
@donnawhite5826
@donnawhite5826 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like she was never desensitized under her belly. She wasn't use to being touched there, it is a very vulnerable area. I had a mare that tried to bite me everytime I cinched her up, found out the cinch would sometimes pinch her, so after cinching her I would take each of her front legs and stretch them out in front of her and that pulled any loose skin out from under the cinch. She learned by me doing this she wouldn't have any pain and quite trying to bite me. Horses are so smart and they learn so fast. Best horse I ever had. Bought her when she was 6, she past away at 30.
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting hypothesis and yet I specifically show that if I change my approach, she's fine. So, is it that she isn't desensitized to abrupt or abrasive humans? and not so much the touching of the belly?
@scarywoody7802
@scarywoody7802 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question, I started working at a ranch and basically they let me take care of this one horse, she’s a giant draft quarter mix, I love her with every part of my soul but it annoys me when she gets in my space and steps on my feet, I’ve started riding her recently and she won’t walk unless I kick her hard and she will only respond to yanks, I refuse to use a bit or anything harsh like their telling me to at the stable. How do I get her to move without being like, mean or anything?
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
Groundwork... lots of groundwork as your horse absolutely does not care what you want to do it with just a quiet ask. Once your horse starts to care about what you want, you'll be able to make progress on it's back through light touches and/or vocal cues.
@scarywoody7802
@scarywoody7802 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the advice 😂 it’s been 9 months and I just rewatched this video and saw your comment. I’ve tried to bond with her more with groundwork using Warwick Shillers methods and yours but the ranch I work at is pretty abusive to horses and any progress I do with her is quickly whipped away! I only get to see her once a month now.
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining Жыл бұрын
That's too bad, I'm sorry to hear that for both you and her
@treelore5100
@treelore5100 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have any issues with dampness in the covered? I guess with both ends open the answer is no? any downside to your structure you have found? it handles snow ok?
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
it doesn't rain directly in there but the ends get wet on windy days. No downsides so far, it's great. Handles snow no problem at all as it is engineered for it and exceeds our snow load.
@elenapleasant7598
@elenapleasant7598 2 жыл бұрын
Great training.
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@cinderella2761
@cinderella2761 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes it is a barefoot, sorry 🙈 my horse is so big shouldered I had to stuff the pommel part he doesn't fit the xxw, could that be my problem? Thank you
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
it's hard to say without being there unfortunately
@cinderella2761
@cinderella2761 2 жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining ok thanks anyway ✨
@debrabessette2699
@debrabessette2699 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your videos!
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@pattirockgarden4423
@pattirockgarden4423 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of saddle do you have? Looks nice.
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
That one is an old one that isn't made any more from a company called "rocky creek". It's an endurance type of saddle that is treeless, it's really good too and has definitely got a lot of miles on it
@joycefranco8852
@joycefranco8852 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing better than a good horse hug...for us anyway
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
everyday! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXvSq3etZ7lnjK8
@joycefranco8852
@joycefranco8852 3 жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining beautiful Graeme...this inspired me to drive 30 miles to the barn this morning and be late for work.....just to give my girl a hug
@lindy-loumaddock5979
@lindy-loumaddock5979 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Graeme. I feel quite honoured. My curiosity was out of concern. It seems it's confirming what was said in your video working with the other trainer. Everything starts with the intention. Gracie knows that you only approach with kindness, so even though she may have looked slightly concerned at first, she was very quick to change and be accepting.
@cinderella2761
@cinderella2761 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, is that a barefoot saddle? Mine slips sideways abit all the time ( I don't get on from the ground) its never felt stable, does yours, if it is a barefoot? Thank you
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
I have a barefoot one as well, this one in this video is a Rocky Creek one, but they went out of business quite a while ago. Yes, my barefoot one is great but the previous owner hated it, it always slipped for her. Treeless saddles show us how poor our balance is actually, once you figure out how to be balanced on a horse (start by not using the stirrups) you'll see it sits just fine. To prove this, put it on the horse and go take a walk with the horse and see if it slips to a side. It shouldn't and as such the only extra variable is us riding. Which means it's our fault :)
@cinderella2761
@cinderella2761 2 жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining Thank you, I agree your no doubt right, but it slipped abit when lunging too? I was amazed it didn't when yours bucked!. Mines the Cherokee. Love your channel btw
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, the one in the beginning is the barefoot one, the one where she is bucking around is the Rocky creek one. I'm not sure I put that one properly before moving her around some.. it might have slipped too as I don't always tighten it up as much as I should when I'm not riding. I think mine is a cherokee as well.. but I can't remember.
@cinderella2761
@cinderella2761 2 жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining ah ok, well, thanks il be watching my balance every minute now for sure, I can see what you mean definitely, I guess doing lots of bareback riding because of saddle fit issues doesn't help with that as much as they say 🙈 thanks, great channel
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm glad you're enjoying your time here. It's just practice practice practice for the most part. It's not easy for sure!
@karenbeisterveld6923
@karenbeisterveld6923 Жыл бұрын
She is a lovely horse.
@lisag5085
@lisag5085 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid - what kind of saddle is that?
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's from a company that went out of business a while back that made treeless saddles, I think they were called Rocky creek saddles.
@EdinburghMayhem
@EdinburghMayhem 2 жыл бұрын
She's a beautiful lady.
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jamieq4818
@jamieq4818 3 жыл бұрын
Great work thanks for sharing 👍
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@dorfsteen
@dorfsteen Жыл бұрын
As soon as you said something to her and she probably knows those words you said stay calm and she stopped. I think she all of a sudden got nervous which made her poop and then whatever else spooked her and as soon as you told her to calm down she calmed right down you gave her reassurance instantly she's a good horse. I think like most animals that are domestic they like to be talked to they like to hear your voice.
@dorothybennett6596
@dorothybennett6596 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos just popped up on my KZbin viewer I have watch 3 or 4 now. Being a Newby to you could you explain you story I.e are your horses rescues are they babies you're bringing on or are they pets?? Sorry to sound ignorant
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
Which horses are mine: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4C5ZGh6rZalbpI and my story: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYLHg6aie8tlkMk
@algypsy17
@algypsy17 3 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting : something to think about !
@minutewithmitch7609
@minutewithmitch7609 3 жыл бұрын
Now this is an interesting concept after watching soo many horse people on youtube nowadays, teaching their horses stuff and all of a sudden they are crazy. Well one person got rated out for yelling and almost screaming at the person who is controlling the horse. You don't want to do dat!
@elainetrindle329
@elainetrindle329 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I thought it was very interesting you really do a good job with your horses I wish I lived up there so I can learn buyer
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@haidershund5464
@haidershund5464 2 жыл бұрын
Just makes me sad to see Horses that react that sensitive to a touch to the stomach. Makes you think about what must have been the trigger to make her react that way
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
could be ticklish :) All horses are very sensitive to being touched in areas that are vital to their life. It takes time to get them used to it and sometimes it's about how we do it that makes them worried. Naturally. Imagine if a stranger came up and just started touching you in "odd" places. Horses don't groom other horses in the belly. Something to ponder maybe.
@twilight3272
@twilight3272 2 жыл бұрын
Who'd have thought that making a horse upset would cause the horse to continue to be upset for the rest of the encounter? (sarcasm) Anyways, I really like how you really respect your horses and try to educate people on good communication. Thank you for the great video!
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@treelore5100
@treelore5100 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you said already but would you mind sharing the make of the over cover you have on your arena and the size? Do you find it helps greatly for lunging in the winter? and down side? Also what are the large brick shaped things at the base? and where did you buy them? :-)
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
I don't recall the manufacturer. It's a 50x70 and I use it when it rains/too sunny/snowy. The bricks are the foundation and are required to keep it on the ground when the wind picks up (if it does) and keeps it all in one place together.
@treelore5100
@treelore5100 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, what is the name of the thing? meaning what would I look up? if you do find the manufacturer please update it here :-)
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
@@treelore5100 covered horse arena, covered outdoor storage, fabric buildings, fabric covered buildings, quonset hut etc etc
@treelore5100
@treelore5100 3 жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining Ok I figured out who the manufacturer is for your cover and no doubt the metal structure also. It's Britespan type of structure is the Atlas. I figured this out by watching your video of the cover going up I could see the name right there it's in the center of peak of your cover :-)
@pennywebb867
@pennywebb867 3 жыл бұрын
Always interesting.
@gingercox6468
@gingercox6468 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I had your flat property. I may as well be on the side of the mountain. Tough to school on the side of a hill.
@katherinepoletto3259
@katherinepoletto3259 2 жыл бұрын
Ah Graeme,how I Love Gracie
@fallbrkgrl
@fallbrkgrl 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Graeme! Now, would you please give Gracie a big hug and kiss from me, please. ❤️🌵☀️⛈️🌈☮️🐎
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
Done!
@fallbrkgrl
@fallbrkgrl 3 жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining 😀
@kkdoc7864
@kkdoc7864 3 жыл бұрын
She did seem to have a bit of concern when you were on her right side and tightened the cinch. (I think that’s what you were doing). Her head cane up rather abruptly and her eyes and ears looked tense to me. This comment is not meant to point out something negative, just trying to see if I read something into that that wasn’t there.
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent observation Kathy. Yes, I did my best to keep her under any threshold but she was going to react as I can't even remember the last time I saddled her and you watched it straight out of the camera here. All in all I believe she held herself together pretty good and it's a good reminder to me to get back to it for her benefit.
@kkdoc7864
@kkdoc7864 3 жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining You are so right. She absolutely did amazingly well. I remember like it was yesterday when you couldn’t even get a lead rope close to her neck the day you first saw her and then brought her home. It’s so wonderful to see how far she has come.
@marthest-louis7128
@marthest-louis7128 3 жыл бұрын
So that's what Baby looks like at full kicking power. Have you had many horses do this? Poor thing, are those grunts she was making typical? Some of the others were calling out to her. What progress she has made, she's all grown up now , well mostly.
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
It's not uncommon for sure, a horse that is bucking with full power will grunt like that and putting all their energy into it. Yes, my horses don't see stuff like that very often so I expect they were calling out to see if all is well or a warning perhaps. I try to stick close and encourage quiet if I can.. no idea if she can hear me, but she can see me nearby for sure and is hopefully looking for reassurance. When she gets it, then she just got it and we never went backwards. The least they do of that the better of course... I hate watching horses buck all around a roundpen or something for minutes. It shows a lack of preparation of any sorts I think. That said, perhaps some just can't prepare enough and when the situation finally happens they freak out a bit.. kinda like Gracie. It was one or the other or both. Likely my fault though. Luckily though I had created a decent enough relationship that being with her was better than being away and she stayed with me.
@marthest-louis7128
@marthest-louis7128 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind, detailed and considered response to a horsey ignoramus. Go Gracie!
@terrilopez953
@terrilopez953 3 жыл бұрын
Do you find that an alpha mare will not bond or show signs of affection until you get her completely away from her herd?
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
I neither know what an alpha mare is nor what a sign of affection is from a horse to a human. Can you define those two things for me?
@terrilopez953
@terrilopez953 3 жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining alpha mare = boss mare in any herd of horses no matter if the herd consists of geldings or other mares, I can’t get her to connect with me unless I get her completely away from the other horses
@terrilopez953
@terrilopez953 3 жыл бұрын
Completely away = out of sight of the other horses
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
What would a connection look like for you? I have an idea of where you're going but I'm curious on the details
@terrilopez953
@terrilopez953 3 жыл бұрын
@@StableHorseTraining she doesn’t stay for me to pet her, brush her, or just be around her unless I have her all by herself, but when I have her in the round pen she connects - meaning she follows me
@hazellove2144
@hazellove2144 2 жыл бұрын
😊
@royalty77724
@royalty77724 2 жыл бұрын
she's a good girl
@takeachillpill4732
@takeachillpill4732 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how memory works 😂 perhaps flapping stirrups not doing a favor here..
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
true, but she pushed past it anyways and hasn't gone backwards since :)
@her8425
@her8425 3 жыл бұрын
Gracie: I hated you touching my belly, but now I love it - scratch my belly Human.😄
@percheronlove888
@percheronlove888 2 жыл бұрын
Grame.....what is a check in....my past coaches simply call it attention seeking ?
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
what is attention seeking? a check in is where your horse checks in with you to see if everything is ok (that's a subjective interpretation of the action of them nosing me or touching briefly)
@percheronlove888
@percheronlove888 2 жыл бұрын
Attention seeking....as I was taught is just that.....looking for scritches and pats and hugs and so on. I find hand treat fed horses can be very demanding for attention. I see nothing wrong with giving your horse or horses pats and so on. Thanks for the answer on checking in.
@tracyhill7960
@tracyhill7960 2 жыл бұрын
Shes sweet. I've always found arabians to be my go to horse.
@tinachippas7075
@tinachippas7075 3 жыл бұрын
Rhetorical question: wonder how many horse owners have the depth of knowledge you do!
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 3 жыл бұрын
I'll take that as a very high compliment Tina 😊 thank you as always
@jannepetersen4660
@jannepetersen4660 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many fools in the world of horses, but there are no bad horses only bad people.....
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
I think horses can behave poorly through habit, it's when they refuse to give it a go to be a friend that we have to not give them a free pass. Most want a friend though and as such, not a bad horse around so far :)
@alisonmccain
@alisonmccain 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot really see the relaxation you mention when you touch her belly and areas she doesn't like to be touched in. Her ears are still pinned, even if not as extreme as in the beginning yet you say that she *likes* it now? Doesn't seem like it to me, around 10:08 or 10:22
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
watch her mouth. You've been trained to only look at ears as if they are "pinned", but you miss the facial expression of the mouth and eyes.
@SilverScaleMA
@SilverScaleMA 2 жыл бұрын
She definitely only has dislike for the saddle and not you, even then she doesn't seem to really have any issues with the smaller saddle. Makes me wonder if a previous trainer used "aids" (aka things lodged in the saddle or girth to make her more "responsive") that caused pain and she is now very wary of. Cause as soon as she shifted a bit she settled right down. There are a lot of horses around where I live that have saddle anxiety, especially with western saddles, because of the youth and amateur barrel racing culture that encourages bad training and results in a lot of horses that are considered to now be unsaddlable/unridable. There are a few ethical trainers that buy and retrain them (usually just being gentle and teaching them that not all humans cause pain) but a fair bit end up in pastures with very little additional care cause they have a bad reputation.
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
I am her only trainer. Here's her story: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGjGq5SigNN6iq8 Always be cautious of a bias.
@SilverScaleMA
@SilverScaleMA 2 жыл бұрын
I totally get that, I was just saying that most often when I see it it is because of a bad experience in the past. One the other hand I also raised dairy goats that had to go through basic handling and show training and there was a vast variation on how they took it. Some took to it very well and others took quite a lot of time to get used to the various collars and halters. With one of my wethers I ended up going straight to a halter because he really did not like anything around his neck and as a wether their wasn't any direct need to ever wear a collar if he was used to a halter. I did watch the suggested video which did kind of confirm to me that there probably was some bad interaction in her past, whether it was someone who was helping her previous owner or someone at the stable that probably tried to work with her without knowing how to work with an unexperienced horse and made her unease with the unknown even worse. I haven't directly worked with a lot of horses but I have been around quite a few for long terms, at least enough to get a good idea if certain behaviors are general skittishness or caution and what is cause by neglect and abuse. Especially with context I can see neglect at the least, even if unintentional, and am even more impressed with how far she has come from the original state you met her in. I have also learned from experience to trust in what is in front of you and not exclusively what other say about an animal because while they might not lie people will withhold information if they think it will make themselves or a previous owner look bad or to make the animal seem better. I had to deal with that a *lot* when buying goats. It is almost impossible to know for sure what training that might have been attempted that wasn't actually done by a trainer and so they aren't technically lying if they say she wasn't trained by a trainer. I don't go off bias but I definitely take into the consideration the different possibilities for the behavior. I was admittedly a bit hasty in saying that it was intentional as I have seen horses with similar dislike of saddles and girths that were caused by long term use of equipment that was dirty or had hard to see damage/irritant that caused pinching or poking to the point the horse didn't want it on at all and had nothing to do with the training or interaction between horse and human. I helped another 4-Her at a fair with that specific problem once and the entire issue was caused by a burr hidden in one of the seams that she had missed because it just looked like a piece of lint. Her horse was still hesitant of the saddle for a few days but by the end of the fair neither were having issues.
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
In the end though, it doesn't matter what the "cause" is and putting time into thinking about doesn't change the approach I would take anyways. I know that horses can separate out between people and between one person who is in a good mood and a bad mood. They are that good at it. It's ok to wonder and ponder things about other people of course, I'm not saying to not do that if you have the time for it. I'm saying a bit more though that I just don't care myself, and you're correct, many people either don't give correct information or misinterpreted information or just lies. So... in the end, it just doesn't matter as my approach wouldn't change anyways.
@pippylongstockings8600
@pippylongstockings8600 2 жыл бұрын
To me it looks like you are intimidated by her. Teaching her some bad manners.
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
well, hopefully you've come her to learn something new then :)
@nansifyanimations
@nansifyanimations 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I’ve been thinking and doing with my pets as well, I do plan on getting a horse after wards in my life. But still, through training my dogs and other pets till now, even how to speak to kids (my little cousins 😅) about doing their homework etc. it really is about how you present them the subject. If you make it bad, nobody will want it. If it brings them a bad feeling or connecting things with bad feelings, most will avoid doing it or just freak out. So if the animal reacts some type of way, it could be fear, discomfort, physical pain, anxiety. Anything really, but surely something bothering them, if we find a way to show it better just like you said, they won’t be seeing it like befor anymore but differently. I am really happy to see you and find your channel through the recommendations, got a sub from me and really looking towards to new videos. Would look good to learn from you. Since other trainers are all using different technical but non of them sounded as nice and logical as you- cause really- this should be common sense to all of us but sadly isn’t. So thank you :D
@StableHorseTraining
@StableHorseTraining 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I really appreciate such a positive comment here and I'm thankful you took the time to write it. I agree, presentation for just about anything is important. I too see a lot of "training" being presented to a horse in such an abrasive way that you can't help but kind of cringe watching the human not see the horse's reaction to it. Oh well.. times are changing :) Thanks for subscribing and welcome to the channel!
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