Safety First TV: The Secret to Pilot Chute Packing

Brian Germain shares a better way to pack your parachute's pilot chute to prevent horse-shoe malfunctions due to the p/c getting stuck in the BOC pocket.
Music by John Meisel and Brian Germain, performed by Brian Germain
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Camera Flyer: Rob Chickering
Freefliers: Tony Uragallo and Brian Germain
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[@TiagoSeiler]

I just purchased my first rig, and as soon as it arrives I'll use this method. Your argument is airtight, I don't know why I wasn't taught that on my packing class...

[@ronanderson1023]

First of, thank you so much for your effort to educate us, it is endlessly appreciated! :) I cannot thank you enough. Secondly: when i started packing the PC this way when i made my A license, people were looking at me, asking why i am packing it that way, but, the reaction was one of three. 1) No understanding(or will to do so) of the situation and why it a good thing to practice. 2) Very neutral 3) Saying that it is unnecessary, and that it doesnt change anything. When i saw how the 'packers' packed my PC, i started to at least repack the PC to make sure of this at least. People just folded it (most of em) and then stuffed into the pouch, its ridiculous. There is so much more that can be taught when beginning, but it seems that if you don't pursue it yourself from the first day on, you're not told a lot if you don't reason logically about it

[@LowKickMT]

they acted likes this because you were the new guy and they were the sky gods so they resist to learn, because it cant be that they learn from a noob because its impossible that someone less experienced had useful knowledge to share :-))

[@BurninatorTheTrogdor]

Bumping this because I've had the same reaction.

[@andycobra49aor]

Mr. Brian Germain; Sir, thank you so much, you are total genius. That packing method is great, thanks Respectfully; Andy Disable Vet TExas

[@freakfly1]

I love the poohing noises that you made to exaggerate the full force needed to pull out the pilot chute on the alternate method of packing it. Thanks for sharing man, glad to see that some Skydiver still just want people to have fun and be safe.

[@marine919]

I'm doing my 1st tandem jump 9-18-11 one day before my 63 birthday and last week I got a tutorial on packing a chute I was telling the instructor how you packed the pilot chute.I really enjoy you and your wife's videos. Semper Fi, marine 919

[@Brian-Germain]

A few things that I want to add to this information: 1) It is impossible to pack your pilot chute this way if you forget to cock the kill line. (How cool is THAT?) 2) Be sure that you do not wrap the bridle around the handle. It should be on the side of the pc that faces the rig. This can cause a pc malfunction. Common sense I think. Wishing you all many happy landings! Bri

[@clayb1832]

You came up a lot in our safety day training at my local dz 👍🏻🤙🏻

[@soundreece]

Many thanks for taking the time to make and post this video Brian. Someone showed me this method a few months ago, but I couldn't remember exactly what they'd done, so it's great to have your clip to refer to. I will be packing it this way from now on!

[@Longway2fall]

I tried your method just now, but not before I tried to extract my pilot chute with the method I used previously. I can tell you that my bridle didn't come out at all, and it was impossible to move! Tried your method and love it. The bridle coming all the way out before the PC has the added benefit of getting the bag as far above you as possible, increasing the drag and chance of extracting the PC. Thanks dude!!!!!!!

[@skynut831]

Thanks for this Brian! This video should be shown and teached to all at every dz ! It will save lives! And it just makes sense to do it the best way right from the start ! Thanks again!

[@pmxc]

It's just a standard pilot chute packing method. But it is nicely presented, from someone who people can trust, and clearly shows the "bunching up" hazard for those who don't understand that issue with where the bridle goes. Brian goes further than most do, by folding the bridle while the PC is on the rig rather than just near the bottom of the rig, in order to have absolutely the minimum extra bridle left out of the PC that needs stuffing in as the PC goes into the pouch. A useful video.

[@sasmannn]

Interesting , When I brought a variation of this method to your attention at the APF Tech conference in the late 90's I was met with resistance from several senior riggers present and brushed off coz I was just a junior jumper at the time . I still teach this method today and am constantly astonished most people are still not aware of it

[@Brian-Germain]

I am not sure why anyone would resist this method, other than the fear of change.

[@terrysullivan4098]

Haven't packed my own rig for years, but have been watching videos and passing on info like this to my grandaughter / senior rigger who now does most of my pack jobs. She was not taught this method or some of the stuff in Nick Grilett's video on Saber 2 pro packing. Like the double stow thing. Thanks

[@slocke754]

For a one-year new skydiver, that's the first I have seen of any explanation or possible malfunction involving deployment of the pilot chute following a cutaway. Thanks! I'll beusing the alt method from now on and hope to teach it that way myself following my coach course. I love the song too!!! From a Free Fall Express friend Thank-you!

[@MrDorf007]

I am just learning to pack my chute, I just have 5 jumps in. This info is very helpful, thanks for posting. Straight lines & blue skies.

[@TeigenNOR]

This is the only way i pack my pilot now! and i show new students how to do it, and demonstrate for them how the bridle won't come out like you did when packed the "normal" way! Thanks for sharing this Brian! hope i get to meet you some day!

[@dzimpact]

I've already been packing my pilot chute using a similar method but for a different reason. I only wanted there to be less friction with the underside of the pilot chute when I pull. I haven't always used the same method but thanks to you, I think that I'll stick to what makes the most sense. Thanks for posting your video. You could very well be saving lives.

[@armantavakoli7926]

Wow, very nice instructions. Amazing clarity!

[@fatbuttsitflyer]

Great information and the material is presented well. I'm one of those goombas who's been packing my pilot chute the wrong way for years, thanks for teaching an old dog new tricks.

[@Brian-Germain]

In most cases, a Freefly handle will still release in the event of an out of sequence deployment. The only way to know for certain is to test it on the ground. Keep in mind that packing this way also prevents packing the pilot chute uncocked. Even if your Freefly handle resists a pilot chute extraction, it is still an improvement in safety due to this reason.

[@Canov73]

Thanks for the reply, blue skies !

[@Skydivedemon]

Thanks Brian, for sharing that technique. I literally repacked my pilot chute as described whilst watching the clip. It makes perfect sense & is clearly a safer option. I know how I'll pack my pc from now on! Thanks again...

[@skydiverc1656]

Thanks Brian - I am really enjoying your videos & learning a lot. I am only at 42 jumps so far & not looking forward to my first malfunction. But when it comes I would rather it not be a horseshoe if I can possibly avoid it !!! I have one of the Rigs from my DZ at home for packing training & I have been using your method & I cannot get the bridle to jam the Pilot Chute so I am sold. Blue Skies.

[@ForrestDix]

Thanks again for this video. Haven't had a horseshoe; but, it's nice having one less thing to worry about!

[@anthonymcgrath]

hi Brian thanks so much for posting this video up! I remember seeing a chap at a dz doing this same method. I asked him why, and he gave me the explanation but didn't stick around to show me how to do it in the same way. Really glad I found this video! thanks again! ant :D

[@slingerapie]

Hi Brian, This weekend I had my first reserve ride. (jump 372) Due to a hardpull. Tried twice but couldn't get the pilot out, so reserve procedure. On the ground we found the pilot balled up in the pocket. I have a bungee pilot on a vector rig. The rig was not packed by myself. When I pack myself I use your method and never had any problems pulling. So whenever I am using a packer I will ask them to use your method or not pack the pilot so I can do it myself. Thanx for the vids!

[@Entgineer]

Great video Brian. Always something to learn! Thanks in advance ;)

[@staticclay]

Excellent pilot chute packing method I have always used this method. Most instructors I have worked with do not pack pilot chutes this way and teach AFF students bridle exiting bottom of pc method. I have showed them this method and they still pack and teach with bridle exiting from bottom of pc.

[@donniehickey279]

Thank You Great vid Look forward to trying Blues Skies!!!

[@martywells3523]

Since returning to the sport, this is the method I use on my PC, great process!!

[@johnmccourt]

Never gets old! Super stuff.

[@dimitriosanastasiou7632]

Brian great tip, on the Pc , IDE like to see a full pack vid, thanks again!

[@aimalac3]

thanks for the input, im going for my first jump next week aff, ill make sure my instructors know about this.

[@Ziro54]

Wow great stuff!!! Thanks for sharing this info. Makes so much sense after watching this vid. Blue skies and many safe landings!!! Z

[@FlyBear2002]

I'll probably get my own rig the next days. And your method will be the way how I'll pack the pc. Thanks for that!!

[@Brian-Germain]

I wish this method was the standard, but if you look around, you will see all kinds of stuff out there. Most of it will not pass the horse-shoe test. I am glad to hear that you are already doing it this way! Cheers --Brian

[@skypimp3]

Thanks Brian this is very similar to how i pack my pilot chute but now after seeing ya vid I'm going to see how it would extract if i had a horse shoe and if needed change the way i pack it . Thanks for the info . james

[@bourne56]

Thanks Brian this is very nice. Thanks for sharing.

[@Brian-Germain]

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[@Brian-Germain]

Very true! Thanks for adding that!

[@Brian-Germain]

That is a great question. A pullout is a great way to reduce the risk of pc in tow or a horseshoe malfunction. The downsides are few, and include risk of an out of sequence deployment as the container is open before the pc hits the air. This could result in an entanglement, but it is rare. Some pulpits have a short bridle, which can cause of hesitations and poor openings. The last concern that I know of with a pullout is the risk of not finding the handle. This can be caused by having the pullout "pud" become dislodged from its pouch. You then be going straight to the reserve, with no risk of the main falling out. As an aside, it is not clear that the correct procedure for a of in tow on a throw out is to go straight to the reserve. Some of us are of the mindset that if the deployment has been initiated, deliberately or inadvertently, a cutaway is warranted. If the main comes out, you don't want to be attached to it.

[@savage3960]

Thank you Brian, I'm using this method now . Excellent video any plans on coming to Skydive City any time soon?

[@snowdirtwatersky]

Brian, thank you for this pilot chute packing method. Not only does this work to keep from having your pilot chute locked but it also can't be done unless you have cocked your pilot chute. No more wondering if you've cocked the pilot chute;)

[@slcfloater9443]

Just getting into the sport and I’m grateful for your Service to the community. What’s up with all those sewing machines are you gonna teach us how to make some cool stuff???

[@andycobra49aor]

Hello; Because I am planning to become a good Skydiving candidate, I have downloaded your safety video because is so important for me in the near future. What I am looking for is a great video how to pack the Shut correctly, there are many video but I am sure you have a great video just like the one of this safety video WHICH it mean lot of since about getting that first shut out of the pack which will deploy the main shut, really, thanks, I will post my first jump which it will be this weekend for the first time even duo I have flown in the past during the military career in Black Hawk so, I have face it the high altitude of fearing but I am sure I will be alright, thanks for your video. Respectfully; Andy War Veteran Disable Texas

[@biosfp1]

Awesome video I'll be making the change in my packing technique

[@Bishop3011]

I will use this on my A-certificate pack-exam tomorrow. Thanks!:)

[@hokasu]

Cheers. You've reminded me of something I'd forgotten.

[@yogaFLIGHT]

Hi Brian I've been a packer for many years, and really like your method of tucking it neatly and safely away. I'm hooked! Any thoughts on packing for a left-handed deployment? I'm going to have to switch mine (I think) with my shoulder issues.

[@xneecheex]

Had my first mal on the weekend (hard pull) because the excess bridle jammed up my BOC! I'm certailny more diligent about that excess bridle now!!!!

[@spencerhumm]

Cool shots of Zhills. :)

[@jumpsouth1]

Thanks, Brian, one more time.

[@error.418]

Awesome point!

[@Charlie1821]

I'm adding this to my favorite so I can refer to it once I finish my AFF . Will see if my coaches use this too. * Just noticed you're based literally right down the road form where I live lol. Maybe see you at orange :D

[@Brian-Germain]

Hi "sweatykev01", Unless you are really high and very experienced, leave your hook knife in the pocket unless there is no other option. Try throwing the pilot-chute first. If you can't get it out, then just chop. There is a pretty good chance it will clear anyway. Hopefully you helped an old person across the street that day and earned some karma points...

[@andycobra49aor]

Thank you again for the impromptus notice. I have to tell you that I am so exited to go down there and face the FEAR of jumping of the plane because I know for sure that IT WILL change my life especially when I DID in fact went to Iraq, Afghanistan, and Kuwait to serve my country. Now, I need a relieve that will take me to the ultimate limit of the Sky to see our Heaven that was created by God. Other than that, thanks for your safety video, I will downloaded to be able to PACK my SHUT the way you are demonstrating here to be more safe in the air, Really, you are a total Genius, thanks god Bless. Respectfully; Andy War Veteran Disable Texas

[@UtterlyAmazingVideos]

Hi Brian, would it be possible to do an updated version of this video? I'd love to see a close up of your method for folding the bridle inside the pilot chute.

[@Brian-Germain]

Will do. In the meantime, this video shows a different angle. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXPSfqKBo7yEjLM

[@cbassmnm]

I wonder if this method would still work for a freefly BOC handle that tucks in under the container flap where the bridal is stowed before folding it in the pilot chute. In the event of a horseshoe with pilot chute still in pouch, I wonder if the free fly handle tab would keep the pilot chute/ bridal from extracting with whatever folding method you use. I hope I didnt miss something in the video.

[@tibcsi777]

Great Brian!!! Thanks! :)))))))))))))

[@Skydive4ever]

Awesome!! Thanks, More please :-) "Knowledge is power"

[@Canov73]

Hi Brian, I was wondering if this method would still be viable for Freefly Puds that "Lock" the pud in place ? would there be enough snatch force to pull the Pud free at the angle its locked in ?

[@andycobra49aor]

Hello again; I Watched that little video about snagging the para shut video, looks good, I'm going to get it later on, let see what's going on first this weekend when I get to jump, I will send you a photo or video when I get to jump of 13,000 feet. Respectfully; Andy War Veteran disable Texas

[@andycobra49aor]

Thank you for your insights news, I will be jumping for first time on next week, then with the time I want to go to the school to get certify to include the Wing-suit certification skydiving. When it comes to jump, I am sure that SAFETY is first when it comes to jump of plane, I am so glad that I did watch and subscribed in your channel. Anything else that you can help, I will really appreciated because I am planning to go all ahead forward. Sir, I am planing to purchase a para-shut, I want to purchase the one that comes with at least two reserves, which one do you recommend. Respectfully; Andy War Veteran Disable Texas

[@Brian-Germain]

Hi Andy, at this time, there are no parachute systems with three canopies. It really isn't necessary. Two canopy systems have served me for 32 years, and will do so for another 32 I am sure.

[@FarceTheory]

I'm just getting in to this sport. Dooley noted!!! Once again I've been reminded that if any thing happens it's my fault! Blue Skys

[@HASSANALI-gi1zo]

omg thanks so much

[@bourne56]

nice awesome thank you

[@UrbanLeopard13]

Excuse me. I didn't mean to bother you. I am getting into skydiving next year. I need to know what canopy is this? How much does it cost and where do you buy them? Thanks.

[@peetre]

thanks, nice video! pete "No Chute"

[@fujimatosa]

Wow, this is so smart! Why this method of packing PC is not standart yet?

[@Brian-Germain]

It is standard in many places. Thousands of skydivers pack their PC this way now.

[@fujimatosa]

@@Brian-Germain I'm glad to hear it. I believe it saves many lives.

[@AlexanderSverdlov]

I wonder have you changed your method since 2008? This video looks brilliant, but... any recommendations since 2008?

[@Brian-Germain]

No significant changes. Some ideas pass rhe test of time.

[@craigsprouse8446]

This was posted in 2008. I wonder if you still feel that this is the best way to pack the pilot chute or do you now do something else?

[@Brian-Germain]

I still pack this way. No problems noted when done exactly this way, or with the bridle on the canopy fabric, as opposed to being inside on the mesh. Both ways work, but since I use an F-111 PC, I don't put the bridle on the mesh anymore. I found some minor damage on the mesh after several thousand jumps on the PC. This damage was not dangerous, and the openings did not change when I switched to a new PC.

[@lysaker]

@snowdirtwatersky so true :D

[@nugzila4170]

Genius

[@50buttfish]

Never had a malfunction with my HotDog pilot chute, 48" long spring eject.

[@Brian-Germain]

That is a Vector 3 Miron with a skyhook. Brian

[@PIanB]

what kind of container is that?

[@JamesNationMusic]

Brian why do they teach that you should automatically go to emergency procedures if you horse shoe? I would definitely try and whip out that pc at least once. no?

[@Brian-Germain]

I always to teach to try to throw the pc if you have a horseshoe malfunction, assuming a quick verification on the altimeter that you have the time. If you are low, simply your plan and get some nylon over your head.

[@skarfaced]

you should ask people at the dropzone you will be jumping from!

[@Brian-Germain]

Love this video? Here is another that I am sure you will appreciate as well: Love, and Happy Landings, - Brian kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJi4aqqKbLRjY6c

[@Brian-Germain]

In a horseshoe malfunction, the bridle load is perpendicular to the BOC, not parallel.

[@living4adrenaline]

5:29 why are you trying to pull it up instead of out to the side

[@canuck_nick]

Just wondering if you're still using this method

[@Brian-Germain]

Yes I am! Been using this method for over 30 years.

[@canuck_nick]

@@Brian-Germain thanks for the info!

[@neomuttley]

Ah_Sooo... That's why someone showed me that way. I was wondering why he did it that way.

[@tuttt99]

I prefer a pull-out these days for that reason.

[@kingikiller]

Ever since i watched mighty morphin power rangers when i was 4 ive always wanted to go skydiving now im 21 i gotta loose like 30kgs to be able to

[@jimday666]

@3:56 PC packing

[@Brian-Germain]

A spoonful of sugar... :)

[@SeRgA123456789]

2:17 rest of your life... hehe well that will be next what 30 seconds? xD

[@alexanderrivette6235]

Maintain your gear and this is pointless

[@glen7016]

one of our experienced jumpers said they witnessed a closing pin break (not a closing loop). Hard to "maintain" something like that, unless you x-ray the closing pin every time you jump.