Dr. Disrespect is Not Beating The Drake Allegations - Safety Third 117

[@RyanMercer]

I did the DNA mah in 2013 in a blog post titled "DNA Data storage". I got distracted trying to figure out the weight of a strand of human DNA "a single strand of human DNA weighs approximately 0.000000001 picograms or about 660 billion daltons. " but what I came to was "We estimate that the 2.9 billion base pairs in human DNA can be represented as 2 bits each, which gives us roughly 725 megabytes." however at that time we could only "artificially store about 0.000000769658 bits of data in a strand of DNA equivalent in weight to a human's DNA strand." (an article prompted this math, at the time we were artificially storing about 725 megabytes per gram of DNA)

[@w花b]

I'm sorry if I'm being ignorant but how does a fractional bit even make sense? Isn't that just 1s and 0s? Like a discreet thing? I know in information theory we have these fractional things to represent idk let's say entropy or thing like that but the only way I can conceive it is if it's some kind of mean formula that gives you a decimal result?

[@magicbeamish]

I hate how retention brain kills the fun conversations. Give me the rant about software dependencies and technical debt, and ASM. I want to hear the horror stories. It's the only thing that makes me *feel* anymore.

[@chillzedd8179]

yeah nah i dont want to hear about that

[@anj000]

@@chillzedd8179 so just skip it. If they talk about it, you have an option to just go around it. If they don't talk about it, we don't have an option to listen to it at all.

[@w花b]

Yeah VHDL and Verilog was about to get fun but if one of the guests is alienated, it's not fun and I understand that. Same goes for the audience because you have hardcore comp sci nerds but also everyone else on the spectrum not as interested and just want to stay at a surface level without going too deep which is fair.

[@MillerKevinG]

VERILOG, VHDL AND ASSEMBLY MENTIONED LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO. Most fun part of my EE degree

[@gibbzmo]

Assembly was the worst. Only had 1 course and the prof made it so difficult she flunked >half of each class.

[@qualia765]

verilog is so cool

[@ame7165]

*dusts off CPLD board*

[@AJeffMiller]

I loved it when they were talking about a PLD and didn't know what it was called XD I programmed one of those as a honors project in Intro Microprocessors, it was an absolute nightmare. The chip burner and IDE was all in Chinese and crashed about every second write, no idea how i finished it.

[@gege0298]

FPGAs are cool as fuck but the IDEs i had to deal with to work with those were hellish. theres apparently some good FOSS ones but aint gotten the time to try 'em...

[@OneBiOzZ]

Watching 3 men of my age not know that cellphones have a USB port for data transfer

[@STONEDay]

W.O. talked about Apple ecosphere and said he uses Windows. Maybe they have iPhones and that is the problem.

[@patricia6700]

I bought my first memory card for my Motorola so that I could drag and drop limewire files in 2004. It was 128mbs, and was 85$ before tax @ Future Shop.

[@jamesgregsy]

But to have to connect your phone to two devices using it as a tf device is honestly not the times we should be living in. The fact, that there is no easy, working WiFi powered file sharing in your own network, I think is the issue. I do think ways exist, but it should just be easier.

[@tbillington]

I figure they're all iPhone users. I've been transferring files on android since 2012 without issue

[@HyviaVideoitaMansenlale]

There are plenty of ways. Blaze might be the easiest overall solution for some if you dont even have local network.​@@jamesgregsy

[@moze_-]

William is lost. My mom was burning CD's, movies, and games onto blanks alllll the time between 2003-2008.

[@justonefra]

That's not what he was saying tho. He was referring to temporary storage for computer-to-computer transfers. So he was kinda right as CDs weren't really a common option for that

[@josephgoforth9722]

@@justonefra i was using rewriteable cds to move between my home pc and pc at university for animation work in 2002. and I was sharing music in same format at least a few years prior. undergrad in '96-'99 we were definitely using zip drives however for graphic design work. wonder if i still have my old one somewhere...

[@ComicusFreemanius]

about 2009 I started burning mp3 CD's because I was too dumb to care if it was wax-cylinder quality.

[@sativaburns6705]

I'm a Millenniold that used 4.25 floppy disks, and it still amazes me how much data we can store on a SD card smaller than my pinkie nail.

[@stuartcommon4651]

Getting old and your memory is failing... 5.25"

[@realfoggy]

Doesn't it blow your mind to download a game or an update that is GBs worth of data in minutes and not overnight or over a couple days.

[@papabaddad]

My 1tb nvme drive that takes up less space than a saltine cracker being sold for under $70 is absolutely nuts.

[@MrTheSmoon]

I would have voted genuinely for will stumbling through an explanation of FPGAs

[@katbutnohat_]

Verilog > KenDrake drama

[@blob537]

I was bummed when he pumped the brakes I was really starting to get into it lol

[@HK-oc3pn]

it was cooler to hear their tech breakdowns. I can hear kendrake anywhere

[@WightHouse45]

Technically assembly "assembles" to machine code, but no one is really "writing" machine code cause it's mostly just a lookup table that converts your assembly instruction to the correct binary sequence that represents that instruction for that specific CPU. Underneath assembly/machine code is the microcode of the CPU which you don't really have access to and is internal to the CPU

[@sakh_awi]

This is truly the Third Safety Podcast of all time

[@ReeseHosgood]

I mainly watch it for entertainment.

[@MeTheTherapist]

You guys need a NAS. Just like William said

[@ninjanolan6328]

If you have Android, you can easily plug it into your computer with a USB charger. You just have to enable file transfer, and then you can access your files as if it were a harddrive.

[@MCMagnality]

04:40 - The bit about transferring files between devices is really limited by network bandwidth, however, recently Dr. Ian Phillips and Wladek Forysiak were doing research on fiber optic transmission and were able to achieve an insane 301 terabits per second transfer speed through using additional wavelength bands previously unused in fiber optics WITHOUT needing new cable architecture. The same goes for SSDs though and currently the fastest read/write speeds are around 10-12GBps, which is still pretty fast, but not yet near the instant file transfer speed I'd like. Regardless, within a few years the breakthrough should lower costs and improve transfer speeds a fair amount

[@sampan04]

Safety Third talking about child safety I was not expecting

[@shroomlord682]

child safety

[@thenoblerot]

Before flash memory was affordable, there was a brief time in which 1 inch mechanical spinning micro hard drives were a thing. They fit inside the CF card format. (see IBM Microdrive)

[@francomasiniofficial]

such a dumb yet cool piece of technology.

[@beeeennnnnnn]

What a coincidence I watched the LTT video on those literally yesterday

[@iamnotpresent]

I still use my Zune media player which has one of them, heh....

[@ElSuperNova23]

OG iPods anyone?

[@MarcosLaureano-r2l]

1:13:13 It's "October Sky," but yes good movie. "The Hunt for the Red October" is a movie about a submarine.

[@h0n3stlym3]

Probably not going to see this, but the 1:17:47 conversation about machine learning plants... John Deere has a system that does this. Got to reverse engineer the work already done and add a laser.

[@ffoska]

The only catch is you need to buy ther stuff, get no access to change the code and they will put barriers in place to keep you from integrating it into a non Deere system -- correct me if I'm wrong, dont know about Deere specifically but other companies do just that, e.g. DJI Yolo is pretty good, you can train it relatively easily, and it gives you bounding boxes.

[@Billionth_Kevin]

Exactly, Will is complaining no one is doing this, and its already done. Not open at all, but yes, people are doing this. And Wendover just put out a video about it

[@krisorraj]

The movie you are talking about is not Red October, it's October Sky!!!

[@GerinoMorn]

59:56 "the duality of human nature" explained for people with under 200 words vocabulary. This is how simple this is, you might get URGES or might have THOUGHTS, you might get FEELINGS, but it doesn't mean you have to do a goddamn thing.

[@StargazingDragon]

Clicked for the beef got a side of computers, nostalgia, and AI generated bug facts lol

[@robinorg1]

I don't understand what they mean with moving files from phone to pc being hard, you just plug your phone into your pc and copy the files and vise versa. why use discord with nitro?

[@moneyman295]

I was thinking the same thing but I have android and I think it might be an apple issue

[@kyleshurtliff2056]

Windows computer and an IPhone here. USB transfer cable works like a charm

[@aqrekkt3770]

“Fe file explorer pro” is available for apple and android and I use it to move files between my phone and work nas and between my phone and my personal computer depending on which network I’m on.

[@-vermin-]

@@kyleshurtliff2056 I don't carry the cable everywhere I go. So it's easier to email the pic to myself.

[@MNbenMN]

Nobody using Pushbullet?

[@stuartcommon4651]

I remember having a 16kb memory expansion (yes, kb) for the zx81 and it was massive

[@WestonNey3000]

I’m only 23 and I used to use floppy disks! My dad was old fashioned and I got to use lots of 90s tech growing up in the early 2000s.

[@aidanclark196]

16:23 linux really isn't like terrible anymore, like if you download mint or ubuntu or any like 'mainline' distro, and you're just using it as a personal computer, it's pretty easy, no need for command prompt usually, the only thing is making sure all the software you want has a version for linux, which nowadays it usually does, and sometimes installing software can be a pain, but you can almost always follow the instructions if it's a smaller program or look it up if it's mor epopular

[@JungleKarmaPizzaKitchen]

By 2002 DVD writable drives were becoming common in home computers. Basically every computer was coming with a CD burner by this point

[@kurtczp]

So multi material printing, you can't just mix petg and pla like that, especially with mixed material filaments. You're better off printing the part in petg entirely and avoid 1) material contamination inside the toolhead 2) extreme heat differences and the resulting underheating from purging petg with pla. If you absolutely want to limit the usage of expensive material then, as you mentioned, the Prusa XL may be your best bet since it relies soley on the purge block and the multiple tool heads.

[@kurtczp]

In addition, if multimaterial is all you want to do then the XL will absolutely beat the Bambu in that regard, from time saved in material changes alone.

[@m1k3y48]

I will say though, if you’re only doing single materials, the bambu is great My only qualm is it/it’s software being from China

[@Joeyzoom]

Dr Kid Inspect bro ICANT 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@OriamRepus]

1:17:54 I'm sure the firefighters would love an automatic wildfire machine

[@billnyethescienceguy9918]

The ccp does this for most of their 'test'/failed launches. Rarely if ever compensates any people/land/cancer/etc

[@STONEDay]

I remember burning CDs in the 90s. Vinyl is pressed not written. IBM has a patent on 3D holographic storage; 1TB could be stored on a crystal the size of a sugar cube. The original meaning [definition] of 'computer' was a person who carried out calculations faster than normies. Drake is a pop star. Not a rap star. Rappers don't sing.

[@pin71917]

I work in the machine vision industry so I finally have some insight on a topic that you guys were discussing. While it is theoretically possible for you to use a neural network to find the roots of the goathead plant, you were going to have more success using more conventional machine vision tools in combination with the neural network. A pattern matching tool on the leaf itself would be the best way to find the plant. Then a neural network could be trained on trying to find the spots that it thinks are the main roots and then you could use conventional tools to identify which of those found items are the largest. The largest problem with using neural networks alone in machine vision applications is the shear volume of data that is needed for it to actually have any semblance of accuracy.

[@Geordiecrafts]

I read some of these comments before getting into the episode and I was so confused about what to expect lmao

[@GerinoMorn]

Do you know how easy it is to keep it in your pants? Both literally and online, via texts etc.? It's the same as I dunno, not beating the shit out of person who bumped into you or paying instead of stealing. Either you care about others or you don't.

[@tbillington]

It's extremely easy if you're not a piece of shit, unlike Drake

[@ComicusFreemanius]

I'm a low and high level programmer, also a wizard. You have to make a horcrux and embed a piece of your soul into it every time you create anything. It's not even all maths, it's all just boolean, I or O.

[@MNbenMN]

Boolean logic is still math

[@TreesPlease42]

Discrete mathematics

[@evilspoons]

My dude I had a CD writer in like 1997. Yamaha 4x2x6 external SCSI. I don't even think my computer had a USB port at that point. I still have my first USB flash drive, a Verbatim one that cost $100 in like 2001.

[@gearscodeandfire]

True story: when the DSM-5 (diagnostic and Statistical Manual, 5th Edition; otherwise known as the official manual for psychiatric diagnostic codes) was being written, there was a fierce debate amongst the community about the age cut off for a diagnosis of "pedophilia" vs "hebophilia." It was the late 00's. Game of Thrones introduced the concept of "moons blood" to the Zeitgeist. The differentiation focused on the relative deviance of sexual attraction to someone who did not have secondary sexual characteristics versus sexual attraction to someone with secondary sexual characteristics, but who is still a kid. 99% of the time, a girl. I hope this doesn't make me the old crusty dude, as I am fine with lumping both groups into "pederasses." Also, Jabril, please become a permanent host.

[@JD3Gamer]

I use airdrop for transferring files nowadays. There are third party alternatives for transferring files from any type of device to any other type of device.

[@wage4598]

30:35 100% would have preferred to hear about veralog

[@AVMS777]

As someone who’s heavy into hip hop I really enjoyed this episode.

[@arjovenzia]

Your laser will need to learn 3 distinct phases. When it's coming alive, when it's building seed an when had seed to deploy. Very different attacks. Gotta get a the wet timing right.

[@skypig]

We were taught machine code at uni last year, but simply as a basis to combine into a more complex programming software, they took it from physical transistor and showed how to combine them into a fully fledged programming language, so these things aren't completely dead, but they just aren't used much at all

[@ArcsineVR]

Damnit jabril I wanted to hear about the microcontrollers

[@shkolarac]

Localsend is pretty awesome to send stuff between any local device. Open source, simple as it gets

[@wtfpwnz0red]

when i was in elementary school i remember seeing 5 1/2" floppy disks, then they got replaced with 3 1/4" in middle school, and zip drives in high school i want to say the storage on the big floppy disks was in the Kb range, so data storage really exploded in the years i was in school

[@saawysorenson4585]

Dude Im working with VHDL a ton now, how dare you drop it like that

[@JD3Gamer]

There were loads of floppy alternatives in the late 90s but few of them caught on and none of them supplanted 3.5 inch floppies until flash drives.

[@NA-nc5dg]

This is like computer 101. Dude needs to watch some youtube videos.

[@DrBomb15]

IKR "I like low level microcontrollers like arduino" My dude that's like the highest level "low level" micro you will ever use. Also SBCs and raspberries in general have spoiled the whole embedded conversation, they're hard because they're small

[@axyz885]

8:20 but you can have spare drives always installed, so when one of the disks fails, the data automatically starts rebuilding on the spare one so you regain redundancy faster

[@Voyajer.]

Using a popular distro doesn't feel any more difficult to windows or mac for the past 4-5 years. Obviously Linux will do things different from windows but so does mac. If you can keep the OSes separate in your head it's surprisingly usable.

[@Industry-insider]

That’s not true, how do you install a program? Half the time you still need to use the terminal , I have an Ubuntu VM and it’s way more complicated than it needs to be

[@Voyajer.]

@@Industry-insider YT ate my reply, TLDR: open the app store its actually not hard so don't pretend it is. The average user isn't going to have any need to touch PPAs (since you mentioned ubuntu). I don't open the terminal at all period on my laptop.

[@Voyajer.]

@@Industry-insider conversely, any time I have an issue on my windows computer, all I find online is "open cmd and run sfc /scannow" and pray it works. You need to run cmd on install if you want something as simple as a local account in Win11.

[@CYB3Rsynth]

Nowadays, Linux doesn't have to be like that. It can be. If you want to drive manual? You can drive manual but there are so many distros out there now that Make things so easy. On Windows. If something goes wrong you can't do s*** on Linux. At least you can fix it

[@steubens7]

cars already do all that stuff, but there are things that can happen that can't be measured, like if a sensor is actually working, if you can't talk to a module because it is missing, the wire is cut or it's just malfunctioning. gotta act as if it's gone in any case

[@skypig]

To access the proper control panel for windows, and see more info on devices that isn't shown in settings, right click the windows button

[@thelastcube.]

ngl william has his NAS server figured out, i'm quite impressed

[@xGUANdeLUPEx]

Jabril on the S3rd podcast is always great!

[@alect1953]

As an person studying IT i was both fascinated and horrified, some things were quite accurate lol

[@mortenette4904]

thank you Jabrils for making them do an into

[@Srfingfreak]

Back in 1999 I bought Diablo and Starcraft off of my buddy whose mom had just gotten a CD burner for her job. There was no DRM, and the CD's were 3x the thickness of normal ones. The Diablo CD literally exploded in my drive after 5 months.

[@MarkDotExe]

Your intro video with all your photos is dope. Nice pod too

[@michaelmoorrees3585]

The first "write once" CD drives came out ~1995, and were super expensive. BUT, the price crashed real fast, and pretty cheap by 2000. I'm old, I remember 8" floppy disks on CP/M in the late 1970s ! Files between computer & phone !? A USB cable, and the phone shows up as a drive on the computer ! That even worked back in the pre-smart phone days, on my old Cingular flip phone !

[@natalipierson98]

I remember using a live Ubuntu cd for school work, then switching to a usb. Huge difference!

[@carlosiespinozab]

"I'd rather be trapped in a room with an Orca" destroyed me.

[@HexCopper]

Bluetooth data transfer sounds like something I wish existed but no one wants to make one

[@Voyajer.]

I had a zip drive in my computer as a kid, they were cool because they were like 100 megabytes

[@AJeffMiller]

On July 11 1979, Skylab re-entered the atmosphere. This went amiss, it didn't completely burn up and there were problems with debris falling to earth, including a big chunk of oxygen tank appearing at the Miss Universe Pageant. On July 11 2024, 45 years to the date, at 1:07:00 Safety Third is discussing IIS & satellites re-entering the atmosphere and hitting people.

[@aarongagne8918]

I had floppy drives with spreadsheets for my favorite mechwarrior loadouts hell yeah

[@waffleiron7420]

Up until 2 months ago I used starlink, I recently was able to get fiber in a rural area

[@didnotkn0]

For transferring files from your pc to your phone, you can use resilio sync or syncthing. I personally use syncthing

[@johnnysun6495]

Will genuinely doesn't know how to use bambu studio lol

[@OriamRepus]

No views? If NileRed was here it would have at least 12 Million

[@EdgarDoiron]

I actually had a zip drive back then. but that was in the 90s

[@MechaBorne]

Why do we even need rockets to get to space? Didn't the highest skydive jumper basically get to space with a balloon? Just get most of the way there with a balloon then have a tiny rocket take you the rest of the way

[@MNbenMN]

The skydiver then fell back to earth, though, right? Just getting out of the atmosphere isn't the only thing. You need to get up to orbital speed to stay up there to do satellite stuff, or pass escape velocity to get away from Earth and head out to other planets etc. Rockets go fast enough for that.

[@wesleyfilips7052]

We were so poor i do remember using a dvdrw as a makeshift flash drive to bring projects to middle school in 2010, and as a little kid using floppy disks to hide snes roms from my parents because they thought piracy was wrong

[@ellec7188]

I love Jabril episodes

[@stephensteele2844]

I had a Zip drive long before I saw a usb thumb drive

[@MeisterMitBart]

You guys need to know about KDE connect, its able to directly move files via WLAN, no limits. You can also send your clipboard and use the phone as a touchpad.

[@mertyn5668]

as a bit of an archivist and someone who really makes sure that their ireplicable files cannot get lost, the beginning of this episode was kind of frustrating to listen to :D

[@lezzbmm]

1:04:00 every iphone for a bunch of yrs is “satellite ready” and will even make a satellite call in emergency mode but satellite functionality is disabled in general because of contracts btwn apple and cell service corporations

[@GerinoMorn]

In 2000 I got a portable cd player, and initially I only listened to CDs I had. But the primary limitation to listening to "custom cds" wasn't till bit later when broadband became more common, prob 2002. Like, quite quickly you could barely find a cd drive /without/ the CD-R(+R, +RW bla bla) capabilities. There were some many weird things back then, anyone remember LightScribe? xD

[@B-Nice]

Drake got popular as people got stupider 🏋🏾‍♂️🛟

[@Pallerim]

Linux has honestly reached the point of being consumer friendly this last year. With stuff like KDE connect you can send files between devices just like Macbooks and iPhones, but without having to suck Apple dick.

[@spartenz14]

I distinctly remember using a specific CD-RW as a flash drive for months. Then one day I was at Sam's Club with my parents and saw a 1 GB thumb drive for sale for like $30. I begged my parents to buy it for me, and they did. Now it's insane to me that you can get a 2 TB thumbstick for less than that.

[@LeafBoye]

Where do you live that you can get a 2tb thumbstick for 30 bucks tf

[@spartenz14]

@@LeafBoye the future

[@jyrolys6]

@@LeafBoye Probably thinks alibaba bargain USB drives are functional. (in basically all cases, they're not)

[@rocketamadeus3730]

October Sky is the movie you're thinking of.

[@gwohlers]

Starlink is a game changer for my parents in middle America. Nothing comes anywhere close to the speeds we get from Starlink where they live.

[@jeepspeedracer]

I am as old as will and in middle school I had to use floppy discs to save reports for English and history. Maybe cause my school just had slightly older computers.

[@terryenby2304]

transferring files from iPad/iPhone/MacBook is dead easy for this luddite, tbh. I absolutely remember when file share was the easiest option, followed by TINY USB drives and RW-CDs. I am absolutely too dense for linux, and Windows makes my blood pressure unhealthy. Thanks for the episode as always! I need to go watch all the pattern extras I accrued!

[@DrPsychlops]

Dropbox... I decided a long time ago that it was worth paying to not have to do the back up and maintenance and initially purchase the drives. On the other hand if something ever happens to Dropbox or if they decide they don’t like me then all of my date is gone. I am waiting for Proton to come out with a storage solution and then I’ll switch all of my data over to them.

[@GerinoMorn]

The floppies did die out though mostly because of file size, as they couldn't hold even one mp3 song, or maybe couple images? Though the rise of the USB drives wasn't all that fast, because while you could have easily add a CD-R or other combo drive to basically any PC, USB did require "reasonably modern" computer. In home use that wasn't that big of a deal, but I'm sure for institutions that have like thousands of PC in inventory...

[@thetmk67]

The expected lifespan of a decent SSD is longer than the expected lifespan of spinning disk hard drives. That SHOULD only improve over time as well as we get better SSD tech. On an individual level anyone can have bad luck with an SSD or an HDD failing but in my company's enterprise environment we have seen a FAR lower rate of SSD failure than HDD failure.

[@jotchava]

1:13:09 October Sky ** Awesome movie with Jake Gyllenhaal

[@epicthief]

Old CBF here, if you are not soldering on your own home made boards, you got nothing to talk about

[@nesnay1364]

The audio on Spotify is fucky and skips back around like the 9 or 10 minute mark btw

[@kidycello7108]

does will not know you can plug your phone into a pc for file transfer?

[@jyrolys6]

It can and should be easier to transfer something small on a whim, instead of searching for cables, going under your desk, waiting for the storage to pop up, maybe even needing to change into media transfer mode and then looking for the file again via your PC. Yes you can cut down some steps with prep, but why not prep a network based service instead?

[@kidycello7108]

@@jyrolys6 I suppose for a frequent user it would make sense to dedicate the money/hardware to a server, but even still for smaller files like photos or infrequent larger files I would still recommend using a cable or even the free capacity of a cloud service like Google drive. A cable at maximum £5 or free storage is more effective than a £15 optiplex server especially when you consider electricity usage.

[@teresa3567]

We used windows 95 until like 2008 but never once had to use a floppy disk

[@lw8882]

the "Um actually it's called ephibophilia" is the classic libertarian argument that usually follows "I'm just asking questions but should we change the laws of consent?"

[@RythmicRaindrops]

1:10:04 man why wasnt the picture edited in?

[@lezardo]

You can use a Raspberry PI in a more Arduino-like way using a Real Time Operating System like FreeRTOS. Whereas with the default Linux OS your program is one of many the OS executes, FreeRTOS is barebones operating system that only executes your program

[@Decaf.]

When are we getting camera man John on the pod though

[@kevin._.27]

you can connect your phone to your computer using the usb cable. then find the files and copy.

[@calomancer]

+1 for Synology NAS. If you want to serve video, like using Plex, get one with an Intel CPU.

[@phoximus]

To touch on the Starlink stuff, I live in rural America and Starlink is pretty popular around here. I live close enough to a village so i have High Speed Internet but not fiber. The people about 2-3 miles out further than me almost HAVE to use Starlink to have anything reliable.

[@thescrubinator814]

Just... plug the phone.... into the pc with a usb c..? It has a file transfer or just charging mode.