SALAD BAKERS #1 BWL World record - 24min 16sec - R14 Fury Warr POV

Speedrun 10.04.2020 - World Record 24min 16sec Blackwing Lair (BWL) - Phase 3. This was our second speedrun attempt, no PTR.
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[@Jakeworth]

it takes my guild 24 mins just to get ready for the first boss

[@hoschiadedodi]

but probably less time in preparation before entering the instance.

[@Zeovm]

i know you're trying to be funny, but thats not really that slow.

[@1337139]

my guild takes 5 minutes and still people complain

[@GamingCentralTV1]

@@Zeovm dont think hes trying to be funny my guild is slow as shit too. We still wait for 5 sunders before dpsing and even then threats an issue

[@true_plays_games]

GamingCentralTV1 threat is an issue on Razorgore? Time to replace your tank.

[@Chazzvc]

"Hey guys sorry i'm a half hour late, what boss are you on" "oh...."

[@ibrahimbakkalci8272]

Chazz vc my favorite comment hahahaha

[@swifty75]

Raider: So how many people need to do the Rank 14 grind? Raidlead: Yes.

[@nharz2385]

I think only like 6 people ranked to 14 on our server but we had a lot of people transfer from other servers after getting R14

[@aaronarrigo9812]

fuck that

[@Ealenduil]

@@nharz2385 Howcome you're using 2x Longswords btw? I thought swift blade offhand was better

[@cacatobositt]

the healers are the true heroes of this run

[@nharz2385]

haha true!

[@TheCybershot90]

yeah youre right, you need top tanks and healers so all DPS can make what they want :-D

[@gg025]

Are the healers just chugging mana pots and runes the whole run?

[@floppa180]

@@gg025 would it be optimised if they did? Then probably

[@MW-ty5zw]

Especially when they have to deal with dps bitching about losing one aura for 3 sec when your priest has to swap himself around to poh because you go with half the amount of healers than what is the norm. Good healers are the true heroes of a raid.

[@paulnews6498]

Guild: So which song of worakles shall we use for the video? Nharz: Yes.

[@shazec]

I love that fire vuln ignite on Chrom. Guy dies 20sec into the fight and still has 3,6k dps in the end ^^

[@TheInvshika]

10:23 I can feel that Intercept sound in my bones

[@Ashilax1]

I love the rogue topping damage with the dual Dal'Rends.

[@auriis1]

I miss the old days of classic, several times a year I get in here to see when we were happy

[@bigdayoutbikes1898]

24 days of honor, 24 hours or consumable, 24 minutes of glory!

[@true_plays_games]

Big Day Out Bikes 24 days you wish More like 75-90

[@Sylphid15]

For some reason speedrunners always have the best soundtracks

[@teodorgeorgiev9769]

The music is .... just great and wonderfull bro , GL in future

[@nharz2385]

thanks friend!

[@MrSedalol]

Mom: Come one, we have to go. Son: Can I just play more? Mom: Ok, you have 25 minutes Son: Perfect, I will just do BWL

[@fotomats8651]

best legendary epic classic video ever!

[@EinfachManuel]

18:33 that firemage ignite was 🔥

[@rykenzofortyone7008]

absolut beast that mage

[@chuchonmc]

First comment after making a world record: "TEAR" (Neltharion's Tear), said by a warrior. A true leader always looking for the teammates.

[@CardiacKatz]

because its a raid with 20 warriors the casters in that raid are geared af

[@anthonymentalewicz5143]

That ebonroc fight had me thinking you were about to take both pinatas at once.

[@TravisFawver]

Dude the loot in this run was absolute fire.

[@nharz2385]

it was nuuuuts

[@andersand7821]

This was really amazing to watch. GJ. 0 downtime from killing broodlord to pulling the trash, pulling firemaw instantly when u had the chance.

[@nharz2385]

thanks!

[@711Gonzales]

you know youre hardcore when you have warchiefs blessing as ally lmao

[@DandyCZE]

Still no WF totem though

[@joshholmes1372]

@@DandyCZE still salvation though

[@zankom417]

@@DandyCZE im 2 years late but wf totem is nothing compared to paladin blessings, and i raided as a orc warrior in classic.

[@IamAliveTv]

Nice run mate. Grats

[@nharz2385]

Thanks Alive! Good luck in future speedruns!

[@ChairmanMeow1]

your healers are incredible

[@nharz2385]

agreed!

[@striver7583]

My exp of vanilla was. Warriors were only tanking mostly but not dps..For some reason people didnt like if a warrior was playing Fury o.O And now...what...14-15 years later we see how effective they are!!! But damn nice job on that run. And i salute to those crazy healers in there! They did pretty crazy job there for sure! real nuts! Awesome vid. you got a sub

[@MrBret144]

In Vanilla Warriors did suck for DPS. Only reason they're good now is because we have Naxx talents. If we didn't have Naxx talents, this wouldn't have been a thing.

[@Nizidramanyt]

blessed by RNJeezus with fire,frost weakness, timelapse and warr call

[@steinizherz]

CN United holds the world record. they have 23:29.

[@Iceblinkx]

any warriors in chat? i dont think its enough

[@sunderwire]

That’s some good ass loot that dropped too

[@Mareka6969]

I come back here just for the music.

[@JeffDays]

Can you please explain why you use two longswords instead of a swiftblade in your offhand?

[@nharz2385]

Flurry uptime is significantly lower with swiftblade offhand. Around 45% crit but its still much better with slow offhand

[@chiprules96]

Nharz really? I feel like with a faster off hand that means more crits for more uptime

[@JeffDays]

@@chiprules96 yeah im not really understanding either honestly

[@himanu5625]

@@chiprules96 But if your offhand is too fast it will consume too much of the flurry proccs... and to have enough Crit to keep it up all the time you need like 55%+ which is crazy... And as far as I know, more dmg means more Rage...

[@jasonwong6596]

Its been this way since Vanilla, its just the way it is.

[@BonelzGandaTV]

Sana dumating yoong time na mahiligan ko rin ang paglalaro ng online games. siguro nakakaenjoy gawin yan. Nag iwan ako ng tanda.

[@Ohushi]

that phase 1 nef was actually nutzzz

[@nharz2385]

KEKW

[@michaelchr.7294]

Youre Raid is Awsome, the Dmg is verry nice. Respect... Grats to World Record

[@nharz2385]

ty

[@shadowdragon8168]

Nharz, is DFT good for a fury? I know it’s kind of a dumb question but I hear a lot that’s it’s not good for a fury, so just wanted to clear it up.

[@shazec]

It is good for fury, but better for tanks and rogues.

[@nharz2385]

its good for fury because of the pure AP and hit so you can go max AP/crit on other gear, but overall its a bigger dps increase for rogue. We give it to R14 players

[@HallsteinI]

Fucking hell this was fun to watch. The nefarian kill was tight.

[@jawknee7555]

I appreciate the default UI much love

[@babayaga8112]

I LOVE SALAD BAKERS -ALIVEX XOXOXO

[@chanhyung88]

It's so sad that the only real competition in Classic is speed runs. No raid has been challenging. PVP is just countless hours of grinding in pre-made groups.

[@nharz2385]

100% true

[@reofi]

Pre-mades have made BGs a grind and less about PvP, leaves a big window for arenas to step in and change that culture

[@Sondrehaneruber]

awesome vid, inc music! superchill

[@nharz2385]

ty

[@johanedman3468]

Gratz guys love this

[@Jairami]

But where are my 4 hunters kiting 18 dragonkin around the room off ramps?

[@sz1893]

Trinket heaven, mqg, dft, styleens and gem ! Pog EDIT: and tear rofl !

[@burl3yb0y]

Grats man! Few questions if you don't mind; -Why did you only Diamond Flask once instead of basically on CD? -Why 2x Longsword instead of Longsword x Quickblade?

[@nharz2385]

Very short breaks between each pull so forgot to swap to it in time. Was going to use swap after vael but forgot. Flurry uptime is significantly lower with swiftblade offhand. Around 45% crit but its still much better with slow offhand because fast OH just eats flurry stacks + rng

[@kyemikel76]

yo is ur name visenya on wow?

[@Karasike]

Lol, Visenya my boy. Thought that profile pic looked familiar

[@burl3yb0y]

@@kyemikel76 Yeppers

[@burl3yb0y]

@@Karasike ^_^

[@TheCybershot90]

How many of those 40 people have r14 weapons ? would be nice to know :D

[@Ohushi]

probably like 20?

[@nharz2385]

In total we only had 9 R14 actually, 3 of them rogues 6 warr

[@TheCybershot90]

@@nharz2385 sure "only" 9 :D you guys are insane 👍

[@snobbenswe]

What is your HS/Cleave macro?

[@nharz2385]

#showtooltip /cast Heroic Strike /startattack binded to scroll wheel up and down

[@teazqt812]

nice job boys

[@SpaseGoast]

So casting DPS is basically a joke and pointless besides the bare minimum?

[@nharz2385]

for BWL yeah casters are mainly there for curse of recklessness (warlock) and for AOE +vuln (Mage). But for AQ and Naxx you will bring more casters :)

[@callz9312]

Great video and congratz to world record! But would you mind explaining why you are going full pvp gear, instead of rank 10 head and shoulders and Savage gladiator chain instead of rank 13 chest?

[@lockekappa500]

Because 6 piece tops all. Survivability is also essential as a warrior when you're pushing kill speeds like this

[@nharz2385]

huge hp, very small dps difference

[@Rockmaster867]

That flamgore loot though

[@nharz2385]

all loot was pretty insane :)

[@onurasmilhan5319]

I really liked your videos, seeing you hit big dps. I have a question tho. Recently i got cts and edge of choas. I am playing orc fwarrior and was thinking should i buy edgemasters? and which one should be in mh?

[@originality9273]

Chrom main 2,6 speed to hit higher HS and Cleaves, tbf if you took a db x2 it would be ideal, edgemasters are a small dps gain unless your play furyprot

[@nharz2385]

if your orc your best choice is deathbringer MH and nef axe in offhand. But if you got CTS and dont have deathbringer I would buy a edgemaster yeah

[@thomaschou6132]

What’s you mean macro on the bloodthirst? Seems like it has a bunch of /cancel heals? This is to preserve world buffs? Can you share the list on that macro?

[@cheezet100fyi]

just pause the video bro lol

[@KeenJT]

I imagine its to cancel buffs so he doesn't go over the 32 buff stack limit?

[@Tonykid7]

sooooo no one is gonna talk about the fact they have fucking group loot on . Like they actually trust alll their members enough to pass on what they dont actually need and to need what they actually need. That amount of trust itself is just crazy.

[@gillisorneborg6180]

Why do you swap bind on Cleave and HS constanty when you already have both bound on other buttons too? Saw that you didnt change back to cleave after firemaw so you were not cleaving on those few groups. Am I missing something? It seems a bit inconvenient.

[@nharz2385]

I really like to have heroic strike/cleave binded to mouse scroll wheel up and down so I try to change my bind between bosses and trash (I did fail sometimes in this run like after firemaw like you point out). In my last run I diddent fail swapping it (kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHqsYoJmadhmptE) but yeah if I ever find some bind I can spam similar to scrollwheel for ensuring that I dont get any misses between my MH and OH landing I will swap one of the binds :)

[@rabudoro]

what's that small bar with HoJ and DFT? Some Trinket addon?

[@nharz2385]

just itemrack

[@TolskaMO]

I was wondering too. I got that addon but how i can have them like u have? I got itemrack addon close to my minimap only :/ and gz for record tho!🔥

[@captainpocky]

You can shift or alt click (can’t remember exactly) the item on your character screen and drag it out

[@lornauarcos8639]

Mate why don't you still make videos? Your videos are awesome and you had such a sick AQ run last week.

[@shawnybgaming3618]

Videos like these make me actually happy to see I hope once Wotlk becomes an expansion that blizzard releases I can actually see huge numbers coming out by people and real 2 hand fury warriors and combat rouges shine man GL to guild and I kinda can’t wait to see how fast a guild can kill Hakkar GL with the grinding

[@dickhansey7720]

Unemployment checks coming in strong in this guild, with all those R14s :D

[@Wizzo91]

Most likely :D

[@DatboyMart]

Does 6/6 r13 gear beat the 2p r10 savage glad setup? When buffed? In general? Or do u just wear it to max hp

[@sepandphan3085]

When you're full on World buff, Survability > Everything

[@andrei5955]

did you do any preparation to make sure ebonroc wouldn't be on top trash pack when you got to him?

[@nharz2385]

rng, but we pull the adds back also and see if he patrols

[@billyumbraskey8135]

[@yhes24]

That mage dmg on chrom... jfc

[@Alecjandro97]

any ingiters in chat?

[@TheCybershot90]

i dont get it how is that ignite dmg possible if he only hitted for 16k with fireblast and & scorch :D ?

[@Zaes223]

@@TheCybershot90 fire vulnerability

[@rubix2007]

Makes me wonder what times will be achievable in official classic, once naxx is cleared and everyone in the run has BiS.

[@anthonyhooser492]

My favorite comments here are "yea but try this with balanced groups and not 17 fury warriors" but my reply is who out there determined what a balanced raid group looks like? Obviously this is more effective than 99.99% of guilds in classic so wouldn't you then say this should be the mold to use?

[@TheSuperRetroBros]

The point is more that this isn't really realistic for a lot of guilds. This is not a mold available to many people at all. They're obviously a top tier group and have made adjustments for speed running BWL.

[@Nas417]

i have a question. Why do u queue cleave vs single target sometimes?

[@victorvasov1232]

Heroic Strike generates a lot of threat so on some boss fights it might be smarter to use Cleave instead. This mostly applies for horde warriors because they have no paladins.

[@pabz04]

Is there a reason for two longswords instead of longsword and swift blade combo? How does HS queueing work with two same speed weapons?

[@Resp1ra]

OH isnt factored for HS. only MH will use it. slower OH = greater benefit from flurry. Once you get that geared you arent worried about using an OH to generate rage.

[@pabz04]

​@@Resp1ra OH isn't factored into HS dmg, but if your OH hits while your HS is queued it gains the same hit chance so it's a big factor in gaining dps (less misses) and smoothing out rage gen. You definitely use your OH to generate rage so you can have as high HS uptime as possible as you're not gaining rage on HS hits. I was just wondering why he goes longsword/longsword as the swift blade usually sims higher. It could just be for flurry though, like you said.

[@joshholmes1372]

@@pabz04 yeah I'd guess that he isn't close to ever rage starved so he can take the rage hit for the bigger benefit from flurry. Considering higher oh damage would gen more rage. Would be interesting to see how it affects flury uptime,but with over 40% crit, I'm sure that's not an issue either.

[@mikaelboileau9853]

Quick question,how come you are using 2times the 2.9 speed sword and not the fast offhand?

[@HS-mk7do]

fast offhand will eat flurry charge while doing less dps than MH. You generally want same speed on both hand, unless you're trying to pull some trick on specific encounter.

[@rykenzofortyone7008]

song from chromagus to final boss - Worakls - Elea you welcome all ;)

[@PGHolmes]

2 Questions. 12 minute battleshout? How? What is the addon that gives you more global macro slots. Please and thankyou.

[@k.bularga]

1. Arms talents afaik.

[@thethugzwithgunz]

Battle shout Buff from the warrior diamond flask quest maybe ? It gives 400 Atk power for 20 mins

[@nharz2385]

@@thethugzwithgunz yepp. except its 15min

[@allshow3335]

How does this human warrior have the Warchief's blessing? thought in order to receive this buff you had to be friendly or greater with Orgrimmar. Am I missing something here?

[@justindegrace2318]

Mind controling horde alts in the barrens

[@alethos6835]

In other words collusion

[@viktorbengtsson676]

@@alethos6835 you can own more then 1 account.

[@alethos6835]

@@viktorbengtsson676 still cross faction collusion

[@viktorbengtsson676]

@@alethos6835 no, you can't have a collusion with yourself.

[@thebeardchronicles5051]

hey, what are you doing with your HS? Are you spamming it, or are you using 2 different hotkeys with one to cancel?

[@EastwardTraveller]

he's spamming it basically 100% of the time, even during execute phases. do you see a swing timer addon? nope, he's not canceling

[@thebeardchronicles5051]

@@EastwardTraveller thanks, I thought as much - I just saw 2 different action bar icons for HS so I was wondering if there was some vudu involved :P

[@da_br3589]

Anywhere i can see the full playlist of the music used in the video?

[@patchettlive9637]

cant wait to watch the latest run i hope you post in @Nharz

[@justincapalbo6938]

>>DODGE

[@mungbeanwow]

How do you get 11min Battle shout buff?

[@dertroll]

i think i found the Spell, but how he get it? : classic.wowhead.com/spell=25101/battle-shout

[@dertroll]

@kellar J But he has the Dimondflask already in older Runs

[@christianfrytlog1789]

How do you bake a salad?

[@christianfrytlog1789]

Btw Tmugsy is a god amongst men

[@fuckyougoogle3024]

carefully.

[@chaargegaming]

N'to - trauma

[@memyrs9888]

saynah007 me too lol its like a crime to stop the video when listening to worakls

[@maximusowo]

why are they running around the room instead of just staying around the platform letting the mobs come to them?

[@gaot5281]

what's the addon who give the magic vulnerability please ?

[@nharz2385]

Weak Auras 2 + "BWL Trash Elemental Shield". Then as long as detect magic is up you can see vuln on chrom and other drakes

[@gaot5281]

@@nharz2385 thank you very much

[@TheBojunga]

How much Hitrating are you running with?

[@nharz2385]

7% atm, will be 6% with zg

[@yannf665]

Hi, great job, what is your addon to have this additional bar ? (trinket / back / heaume) Thanks

[@nerminovcina5515]

Y NyaPO item rack

[@yannf665]

@@nerminovcina5515 how do you create this bar with item rack? I have this addon but i use icon near minimap

[@nerminovcina5515]

Y NyaPO U open ur char info and alt-right klick on the gear u want to pull out, than it Will be an Icon om ur screen.

[@yannf665]

@@nerminovcina5515 many thanks!

[@nharz2385]

Just item rack

[@hunterthedon19]

Is there a raid log for this? Seems sped up tbh

[@viktorbengtsson676]

Warcraftlogs

[@nharz2385]

yeah, its in the title of the video description (its not sped up). classic.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KwcmX2RAqN76TW8z#boss=-3&start=652&end=1457372&type=damage-done

[@hunterthedon19]

Ok. I’m impressed.

[@mewatchWoW]

on his r14 week too? Doesn't get any better

[@MensOpen]

honest question, were there such things as greater blessings in classic? I thought pallies were stuck individually buffing everyone and making sure it stays up.

[@itsstevej]

Not initially... I remember doing Molten Core as a Paladin and having to rebuff 40 people every 5 mins...

[@nhomcy]

Why do you not use the quickblade in your offhand? I've seen most people with slow MH, fast OH

[@Nimblenicky]

Flurry has 3 charges, if both weapons are same speed you essentially get a free 4th charge for free because both weapons attack at the same time.

[@eugenewang4650]

is the ebonroc/flamegor double pull possible? I think a chinese guild did it, their logs show only half their raid participated on each of the bosses.

[@tfp2199]

Some Guys Done this on Private Servers, many Time, its not so hard its sounds like ^^

[@reofi]

The only way to fully gear a raid full of rogues/warriors - make them all get R14 instead and buy their gear

[@EvilRyu_]

@nharz can u post your wep swap macro for both long swords...standard ones don't work.

[@nharz2385]

Itemrack binded

[@OMGSOHAWT]

how did that mage get such high ignite ticks? wtf

[@nharz2385]

elemental spec classicdb.ch/?talent#oZxxMzfcuxVA0codz

[@dolchy]

@@nharz2385 I am still confused on that. Ignite is supposed to burn for an extra 40% but it made up 86% of his total damage.

[@thePhillipForrest]

@@dolchy only one ignite stack can be present on a mob at a time, and it funnels all other mage ignite ticks into that same one. So once one mage crits, if it never falls off from constant critting of other mages, all of that damage rolls into the first mages ignite.

[@EnderGoku9001]

oof i played vanilla during covid haven't done this one yet

[@bigbadbob1992]

Curious as to why I see so many top warriors using heroic strike. In my guild I'm usually one of the top 3 warriors, but most of my damage is coming from bt/execute/we in that order. I'm using brut and cht, so it would be nice to get your feedback. Am I doing something wrong or is it just a difference in gear and skill as araid?

[@viktorbengtsson676]

If you que heroic strike you ignore the hit penalty on whitehits, is my understanding.

[@MetalheadJakeG]

Viktor is correct. Heroic strikes turn your white hits into yellows. This also applies to your off-hand hits as well, even if you just have HS queued up. Keep in mind these guys have full world buffs as well so they're all rocking around 45%+ crit and monstrous amounts of AP. This means that they're almost never starved for rage, allowing for far more HS uptime than you'd have in your average raid environment.

[@nharz2385]

with gear and buffs you have rage to use heroic strike close to 100% of the time plus BT, execute, WW so why not use both? Also heroic strike makes you get 0% miss on MH and 0% miss on offhand and increases your crit cap

[@bigbadbob1992]

I guess I was more so curious because I find myself sometimes rage starved and can't use heroic strike at all times. I usually go into raids with full world buffs and consumes. Maybe its because I use cht and it doesnt do enough damage to generate rage

[@fuckyougoogle3024]

I know what you mean, I'm 4th tank in my guild, so I'm little more than a glorified dps for most fights. Without good rng on HoJ/ WF/ crits, I don't have enough rage to use HS as much as the pure dps warriors. Because of that I tend to cancel HS before it goes off so I keep enough rage for BT. Even if you're in my situation and have to cancel it, you should try and keep it queue'd as much as possible because having HS queued up makes your offhand inherit your main hands hit chance, i.e. 6% with wep skill or 9% without.

[@likeggs6465]

So much typing, do you guys not use voice chat? Impressive if not.

[@briangervais5962]

It's nice to keep voice channel clear and use chat in various white/green/red CAPS for things people should know anyway like remembering to use FAPs and switch cloaks.

[@nharz2385]

We use voice chat but I dont like to clutter the voice (mainly RL talking) so i write some important stuff in chat

[@grevenda1337]

GJ! You took the "World record" in a fucking ancient game! You guys must be so proud...

[@FuRy-vp6ny]

how to show Vulnerabilitys adds on the nameplates?????

[@fasili1429]

What kind of talent spec are using the mages ?

[@geauxtweet]

Which threat meter do you run?

[@vanillabrad5555]

Whats the add-on the MT has that says "PERRY" ?

[@vanillabrad5555]

parry****

[@dertroll]

11minute BattleShout Tell pls

[@nicolainrregaard4819]

i think its from a lvl 50 warrior quest

[@CatCotCat]

@@nicolainrregaard4819 yeah it's from the diamond flask quest, gives like 400 ap or something. pretty ridiculous

[@Zingo89]

gj boys!

[@On2Evolution]

Nhars why did you intercept Chrom at 19:14? How do you precisely time executes without a hp % in your Ui? you time CDs with the victory timer?

[@nharz2385]

was a mistake :P j

[@windabgeworfen443]

GG WP

[@chadlariviere7953]

is full marshal gear BiS with world buffs?