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@SahnigReingeloetet4 жыл бұрын
Don‘t forget that Formud Skipper is a starter too, it‘s essentially a 1 card Accesscode OTK. 1. Normal Skipper 2. Link Lynx, search Sanctuary; Skipper ef, search eXceed 3. Activate Sanctuary, link Lynx; eXceed ef, summon; eXceed ef, summon from deck 3. Link Jammer (2x eXceed) 4. Link Transcode; Transcode ef, summon Jammer 5. Link Accesscode; Accesscode ef, target Transcode; Jammer ef 6. Nuke the field and swing for 10.6k, gg.
@KingLazy934 жыл бұрын
The archetype that refuses to die.
@kutokutosan76374 жыл бұрын
KingLazy93 and it is tier 2-3... not many people will think that is is overpowered, so no banlist worries
@simas46094 жыл бұрын
Yes but deck is now fair because stalio is banned, that card really was the strongest and made deck tier 1
@rikhiel20394 жыл бұрын
Simeon Nikolić thats not true. The strongest card of the archetype is Gazelle not stallio
@simas46094 жыл бұрын
@@rikhiel2039 yes you are right
@jirottodm4 жыл бұрын
@@simas4609 i wish stalio back ;---;
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
Datos importantes sobre el Deck/Video | Important notes about the Deck/video 1) A pesar de no haber torneos oficiales debido a la pandemia, diríamos que actualmente los Decks más competitivos del formato son Adamancipator y Eldlich (Tier 1). Debido a que han demostrado un excelente desempeño desde que salieron, consideramos que las estadísticas mostradas en sus respectivos vídeos para ambos Decks no son tan acertados. Diríamos que ambos deberían tener ahora una puntuación de 8.8 o 8.6 2) Hemos seleccionado replays en las que partamos o busquemos a Parallel eXceed intencionalmente para que se vea su desempeño en el Deck. *ENGLISH TRANSLATION* 1) Despite there being no official tournaments due to the pandemic, we would say that the most competitive Decks in the format are Adamancipator and Eldlich (Tier 1). Because they have shown excellent performance since they came out, we consider that the statistics shown in their respective videos for both Decks are not so accurate. We would say that both should now have a score of 8.8 or 8.6 2) We have selected replays in which we intentionally start or search for Parallel eXceed so that its performance in the Deck can be seen.
@xisvicious4 жыл бұрын
I'm curious why didn't you guys play splash mage as it's a free link 2 to transcode talker?
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
@@xisvicious We prefer Zeroboros because it's another win condition for the Deck.
@xisvicious4 жыл бұрын
@@ExordiodelDuelista I get that but splash mage revives and can be linked off to transcode that can then revive back splash mage then be linked into accesscode talker all that from a link 2 isn't that worth a slot or like a xzy or knightmare Phoenix since you wanna use more cyberse base effects anyways?
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
@@xisvicious That's true, actually, the card is pretty good. Sometimes using Phoenix could be very conflicting in the Deck but we still use Phoenix because with Parallel eXceed and Heatleo you can remove 3 Backrow of the opponent and draw a card by Phoenix. Not sure if we would remove Phoenix but easily we could take out Bagooska that honestly we never summoned because most of the time is better to go for Dweller.
@xisvicious4 жыл бұрын
@@ExordiodelDuelista I'm also surprised you are making dweller over rafflesia cause grave diggers trap negates Nibiru which is Salamangreat big weakness exceed is easy access into her making her a 5th summon taking away the fear of Nibiru. Salamangreat got more support for this set then people realise splash mage a free link 2 revive,access code for a board clear/otk,parallel exceed easy acces to traptrix rafflesia to grave diggers trap hole.
@leolima91474 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Sala still is a very good deck. About the enemies, the second Hero player was very big brain to retire Dark Law from the field. Salamangreat depends so much from plays in the GY and the hero sends law for Cross Crusader hahahaha
@adriancruzantunez17554 жыл бұрын
Ikr. What was he thinking? He threw his victory away xd
@SahnigReingeloetet4 жыл бұрын
Salad‘s HERO matchup is horrible xD
@leoornstein39634 жыл бұрын
Some amazing innovative combos you have there. It would be a shame if someone drops the rock on it (psss, play Traptrix Rafleassia). Glad that the deck is still competitive despite all odds, especially during this golden-dead people and rock lovers dominated format, they truly are the SalamanGREAT.
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
We try with Rafflesia at the beginning but we think that is much impactful Dweller first turn than Rafflesia, which basically only works if your opponent opens Nibiru.
@NamNguyen-wm7kz4 жыл бұрын
This deck is absolutely adaptable! Amazing content, hope you would soon release new vids about the ETCO (including Maldolche, please! :)
@J43Pr0t04 жыл бұрын
Salads are still a very viable deck and I really hope they can stand the test of time. Also Accesscode Talker and Update Jammer are incredibly clutch cards that can just auto-win you games, amazing really. Also Zeroboros can also just blindside your opponent by simplifying the gamestate, incredible. Thanks for the continuously high quality content! :D Also that imperm negating imperm was hilarious but so clutch too
@Livid_cN4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos so much. Best quality out there! Keep up the good work
@kurokenshin25074 жыл бұрын
accesscode gonna save the day for this deck
@atomic18914 жыл бұрын
Sure, these replays got me very excited to play the deck again... It just didn't feel complete after Mirage stellio got hit but now with the parallel exceed plays and those accesscode talker finishes, the deck is very much able to compete. Accesscode gives the deck a way to close out games easily with 2-3 pops on a two attack 4300 monster. That is scary.
@ArielTst4 жыл бұрын
@@atomic1891 how do you pop more than once with it? Like in 6:48? It says banish 1 monster from gy to pop a card.
@atomic18914 жыл бұрын
@@ArielTst Well if you have more than 1 link monster inn your graveyard you can pop multiples because the card is not once per turn. The only restriction is that you have to have link monsters with different attributes. That's why you play Splash Magician... So with that you have for example fire ( any Salamangreat link), Water (Splash magician), Light (Unicorn),... Possibly even more and so you can pop 2-3, sometimes even 4 cards
@grumpykoopa4814 жыл бұрын
Access code is good, but I think you're giving it too much credit
@jangaman78234 жыл бұрын
@@grumpykoopa481 In tandem with the deck its strong
@lalofortress63444 жыл бұрын
A pesar de que ya les he escuchado el tema de nitro man remix en 3 videos diferentes, no puedo enfadarme con ustedes, hacen todo bien, y el tema esta genial
@salvadormoya98294 жыл бұрын
Exelente video, siempre con una estupenda edición.
@fernandavazquez38243 жыл бұрын
Muchas gracias exordio por las recomendaciones ami me encanta mucho el l mazo salamangreat
@alejandromonsalve54944 жыл бұрын
gracias por tu contenido bro, ponés mucho amor en esos videos !
@plzcme4344 жыл бұрын
Yes, my favorite deck getting another video. And the video is as great as always.
@hetov244 жыл бұрын
Esos adamancipators del final te sacaron la tetrav3rga, Exordio 😂😂😂
@15Thibs4 жыл бұрын
I want to see Ancient Warriors next ! :D
@christophersebastiao75014 жыл бұрын
Great to see all this content 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@jjSalu24 жыл бұрын
el link 4 talker lo he usado en mi deck sky striker y la verdad se mueve bien
@judicu24604 жыл бұрын
I would like the following video to be from the zombie deck or rocket-guardragon
@hectorcendejas40204 жыл бұрын
Creo que ya los salamangreat son mas como un motor, y bastante bueno y consistente, no dudo que lo vuelan a tocar, excelente video!!
@ZackerYGO4 жыл бұрын
Dejará alguna vez de ser buen deck Salamangreat? Es increíble
@desertwalker77384 жыл бұрын
For a future vid can you do pure mekk knight with girsu and Lib since I havent seen much other yugitubers talk about it and I wanted to see how good the ftk with world legacy scars was with it
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
We don't make FTK Decks.
@shsldespair67634 жыл бұрын
This deck continues to live on and stay strong lol. Awesome video!!! Also, would you do a video on Shinobird-Impcantation? They arent meta but are a personal favorite
@kevinluongo024 жыл бұрын
i am glad that you appreciated the video
@LucasMacedoAlbuquerque4 жыл бұрын
Great job as aways exordio!, I know its a strange request but would it be possible to make a reptilianne deck? I just love them and would like to see them shine, at least a little
@SuperSonic35574 жыл бұрын
I love these videos! Very good profiles!🔥
@MrNirvana264 жыл бұрын
Buen video los salad i burning abyss son los decks que mas juego yo. Pero queria saber como sirve formud skipper. Lleva un poco de tiempo que no juego I me gustaria un poco de ayuda. Gracias
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
Sirve para buscar a Parallel eXceed. Es increíblemente bueno porque Parallel te permite abrir con Dweller que es excelente contra la mayoría de Decks competitivos actuales. Además, sirve como material para invocar más Links como el Accesscode Talker que es una de las mejores condiciones de victoria del Deck. Con One for One obtienes muchísima ventaja gracias a Dormir Skipper así que recomendaríamos jugarlo a 2 ya que a 3 se podría atorae con tantos monstruos para invocar normalmente.
@bap42854 жыл бұрын
Love your vids!
@nicolasgarnica46764 жыл бұрын
Le tengo fe a éste arquetipo después de todo ha sobrevivido al pasar del tiempo y aún así sigue siendo uno de los mejores decks que me he encontrado sólo le falta algo para regresar a la cima
@jirottodm4 жыл бұрын
Se llama Stalio
@kurokenshin25074 жыл бұрын
how about we try noble knights? you guys never did one even tho the new support is already revealed, what's wrong?
@edulopes54 жыл бұрын
¿Crees que es posible hacer una construcción SPYRAL viable sin usar el infinito pájaro negado? estoy a espera de su analysys, porque yo ja estoy sin ideas
@BlazingGear4 жыл бұрын
The summoning of Transcode at 5:59 seems to be a misplay? (Transcode can't use its effect because a non-Cyberse was summoned). Could've just gone for Heatleo that is also 2300 ATK and at least have a Balelynx to protect it. Even if Transcode's meant to be used for next turn for his revival effect, and the invoked player only had 2+1 cards in hand next turn, I think Transcode can still be quite easily removed from the field.
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
It was.
@kaitoshiki77824 жыл бұрын
Stay strong Salaman, endure the chaos of the undead clowns and explorers... time for Nekroz to show us what they got against this meta! Woohoo
@lorenzo13463 жыл бұрын
Hi, is there a cheaper alternative instead of accesscode?..for curiosity...thank you😁😁
@sebastianvillarroel10434 жыл бұрын
Tio exordio yo hubiera quitado los bufferlos y poner mas hand traps como nibiru tienes 3 normals en el deck que pueden ser muertos el skipper la debug y el mismo bufferlo
@alexsoto17034 жыл бұрын
Se.puede de acuerdo a la versión que juegas , esta es going first (por eso los starters) , y no creo que teniendo buen campo mandes todo a la vrga con un nibiru , es dependiendo cada quien .
@FrankyyLuchi3 жыл бұрын
Jugar muchas handtraps es tremendo brick
@gabro_o97834 жыл бұрын
You are the only who can teach me how to play nice an unchained deck, I hope u will share one video for it 🙏
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
We'll try to make an update for the Deck soon, we like the Deck a lot :)
@gabro_o97834 жыл бұрын
@@ExordiodelDuelista thank u ❤️
@Vinigomez4 жыл бұрын
At minute 5:06 , why didnt u revive jammer and linked for accesscode? He would have 5300 atk, 3 destructions and 2 attacks
@thrinziman22663 жыл бұрын
What allowed Exordio to XYZ out Dweller at 0:40 when no arrow pointed to that space? Is there a change I missed?
@theyugijoker58564 жыл бұрын
The numbers and stars at additional stats somehow don't match
@RaúlSL94-774 жыл бұрын
Exordio! Como ves armarse un deck Salamangreat ahora?? Tendra mas tiempo de vida? O ya lo ves sin sentido?
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
No creemos que toquen el Deck a decir verdad. El Deck es muy bueno pero necesita mucho el Accesscode para poder tener un OTK seguro. El Decks puede jugar sin él pero pierde un gran plus. Te diríamos que de preferencia esperemos la próxima banlist que debería salir en Septiembre antes de comprar el Deck en caso te decidas por el deck.
@RaúlSL94-774 жыл бұрын
@@ExordiodelDuelista gracias por el consejo!!!
@MrVenusaur4204 жыл бұрын
Hi i have been maining mathmechs since they released and learning cyberse as a whole since my endymion deck is no longer the deck I want to play. I have a list i was hoping you would take a look at and maybe play a few games with it.
@shiro74194 жыл бұрын
Amazing vid as always, but can we get an update on time thieves sonce they got their support in ignition assault, as well as some useful cards such as parallel exceed and bujinki ahashima?
@mike50184 жыл бұрын
Quisiera aprender a jugar salamangreat, pero hay algunos efectos que no entiendo igual el porqué pueden usar "su mismo nombre" o algún otro efecto, apenas regreso a jugar y hay mucho que aún me. Cuesta trabajo
@teamarctypez74304 жыл бұрын
Can we see a Malefic deck? Please
@simas46094 жыл бұрын
Great video as always can you make dinosaur fossil if that is possible combination or any fossil deck
@mateorendon11884 жыл бұрын
Dónde puedo comprar este deck completo? Muchas gracias
@BlueEyesWhiteBoi4 жыл бұрын
very great video, love your effort
@hypersaiyen084 жыл бұрын
Just ... Insane
@MrDwarfAce4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos !! Will you do on ancient warrior ? Pleeeease 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@nintendocuber4 жыл бұрын
What is a good budget card to replace Accesscode Talker
@SuperJay34 жыл бұрын
Nintendo Cuber Borreload Dragon is a good budget option
@V750.4 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@JarbasJack4 жыл бұрын
Se com esses status é tier 2...entao qual deck é tier 1 ??
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
Eldlich and Adamancipator are Tier 1 but as we mentioned in the pinned comment, the stats of the videos of both videos should be higher
@ネフェルホテプ4 жыл бұрын
Sigo sin entender el jodido efecto de zeroboros. Cuando lo use me dijeron que no podia invocar cosas a donde el apunta, pero veo que aqui lo usas asi, triggereando su efecto con la invocación de spinny. A que hace refeencia entonces su efecto prohibitivo? En donde no puedo invocar??
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
Su efecto se limita a la Extra Monster Zone. Por ejemplo, si lo invocas al medio del campo (casilla 3) ambas flechas superiores apuntarían a ambas Extra Monsters Zone, ahí es donde aplica el efecto de Zeroboros. No podrías invocar Monstruos en ninguna de las Extra Monster Zone que apunta.
@fernandavazquez38243 жыл бұрын
Nuevo sub❤️❤️
@NicotheRM4 жыл бұрын
Sad.. I hoped to see Salamangreat Trancendence and Pyro Phoenix.. or at least I liked to see it D:
@jirottodm4 жыл бұрын
I feel bad nobody uses our blazing human bird
@jirottodm4 жыл бұрын
@@dukevania Yeah. Forget about transendence. But the point is: I know Pyro is innecesary, and that's sooooo disapointing. I really want that card could be more useful to be used in all sala decks ;---;
@yurielviajero73464 жыл бұрын
Una consulta exordio para cuando deck cyberse post etco ??( a y si podria ser sin micro codec y cynet codec para hacerlo una version budget ) de antemano gracias x leer mi comentario :)
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
Sería difícil hacer una versión sin lo Code porque es la forma más óptima de jugar el Deck actualmente. Esta semana de ser posible actualizamos el Deck.
@yurielviajero73464 жыл бұрын
@@ExordiodelDuelista Gracias exordio
@cavoiyugiohshop61034 жыл бұрын
so much error, incorrect number and graphic on Analysis.
@wilsonator6664 жыл бұрын
So I was looking for rank 4 Xyz monsters and saw Salamangreat Blaze Dragon, but it's not out in the TCG yet. I think I might put this in my Alien deck seems pretty good :)
@ArielTst4 жыл бұрын
Woah, Alien deck? Would you care to share your build? I love Aliens
@wilsonator6664 жыл бұрын
@@ArielTst Sure thing I built it on YGO Pro deck I'm still tweaking it as we speak here's a link: ygoprodeck.com/card-database/deck-prices/?e=e8R7ivURFK8684SFWfcoswvLZTD_FfqIFYZlZIVZxbeXMcLwdaU3DDDs9YUTjt_r-mOp-bafIfPWa1YY3tohyADDc8UKWGE4VEOXGYTPTQtlAuF7ph3MIDzp11NGGGYAAp0vysxGlUIsMLyJz4rlkrQj48MNJ5lWv17LEO_Txjp-QhaDKEsFCwyf2-2U8W22KCtIf0LJdxYYdt53lwGG9ysvZ-oS7QHH_WXvGWA4bvNzpoxr2WD9AA~~
@felipeporras68594 жыл бұрын
Bro estoy empezando cual es el nombre de esa plataforma oara jugar?
@j_travis36684 жыл бұрын
So is the salamangreat link 4 considered not good, or did people forget about it?
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
It's good but not necessary. Zerovoros is still better.
@vicraadhitya30714 жыл бұрын
What app do you use?
@jesusfigueroa42884 жыл бұрын
El Exordio del duelista: gran video. será posible que analicen una nueva variante de Blue-eyes Chaos Max con el nuevo combo linkross. saludos.
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
Hola, Jesús, haremos lo posible. No hemos visto cuál es el combo pero vamos a echarle un ojo.
@jesusfigueroa42884 жыл бұрын
@@ExordiodelDuelista : Gracias el exordio.
@GensouTV_official4 жыл бұрын
hi el exordio del duelista, could you maybe do a deck profile of dragma invoked? :)
@gabrieledimarco3 жыл бұрын
is this list possible without accesscode? do you have an economic alternative?
@FrankyyLuchi3 жыл бұрын
Use rasterliger or borreload dragon
@joseluisnavarro52964 жыл бұрын
Porque el uroboros se convoco en el standbye del oponente, no se supone que solo se convoco en la propia stand by phase?
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
El texto de la carta ha sido actualizado, ahora se puede invocar en la siguiente SP después de activar su efecto así como en OCG.
@joseluisnavarro52964 жыл бұрын
@@ExordiodelDuelista ohh muchas gracias, eso no me lo esperaba
@pecflo4884 жыл бұрын
Originality level: Beyond
@fiendfarron76244 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@RaúlSL94-774 жыл бұрын
Sera posible una actualización??
@QrowNora4 жыл бұрын
hey ya could you do @ignster next?
@드래곤메이드체임4 жыл бұрын
Oh.. yeah salamangreat deck is still fine. I hope miragestallio should come back from banlist..
@cagc79634 жыл бұрын
bruh, just look at this, they perform really well, if miragestallio return, they will be tier 1 easily
@드래곤메이드체임4 жыл бұрын
@@cagc7963 I miss it...
@elhaykadosh66664 жыл бұрын
Me to man
@DiegoGonzalez-ll6yx3 жыл бұрын
Pregunta en lugar de accesscode que otro link se podría llevar
@FrankyyLuchi3 жыл бұрын
Rasterliger o el borreload dragon o avramax o borrelsword dragon... Hay varias alternativas pero si los rumores son ciertos podria haber reimpresion en el ghost from the past y si no sale ahi en la megatin 2021 tiene que estar
@rezcort4 жыл бұрын
Podrias hacer otro del salamangreat pls
@yorai96924 жыл бұрын
¿Alguna opción económica para reemplazar al Accesscode?
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
Borreload o Borrelsword sería lo más cercano.
@kreo25414 жыл бұрын
i don't have Parallel eXceed, any sugestion another card to replace Parallel eXceed?
@oswaldogonzalez-ornelas32494 жыл бұрын
That card it’s what makes the deck playable now, so I’d suggest getting it while it’s cheap
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
If you don't have Parallel eXceed you need a different build because this Deck was made with the intention to use the card. For that reason, we're using Formud Skipper. The Deck without it is also playable, maybe you can add other copy of Will of the Salamangreat and more Salamangreats such as Fowl.
@scytheyamato54424 жыл бұрын
very cool ^^
@mtb81354 жыл бұрын
why do people chain 1 accesscode chain 2 update jammer you should do the opposite because it protects both effects since your opp cant responde to accesscode
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
Actually, we think that the prevention effect worked just in the second effect. That's cool.
@mtb81354 жыл бұрын
it works on all activated effects including the on summon one
@a.o.l.48484 жыл бұрын
donde consigo la lista de las cartas?
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
En la descripción del vídeo
@donitas904 жыл бұрын
Adamancipator es el futuro
@Puffzilla7774 жыл бұрын
Gravekeeper's next 💯
@fadedblu34 жыл бұрын
Song en el ultimo??
@darkmagicianchaoszero5614 жыл бұрын
Que el siguiente sea el Cyberse, por favor
@alexanderkalinov37364 жыл бұрын
Please do blackwing deck analis
@osviandrade30714 жыл бұрын
Solo salamangreat
@francescoscognamiglio77684 жыл бұрын
Can i change access with something? Im poor
@FrankyyLuchi3 жыл бұрын
Rasterliger or borreload dragon
@josecastro57954 жыл бұрын
Do a video of Salamangreat Eldlich
@albertosantiago59224 жыл бұрын
Y la budget versión del accescode
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
No hay carta que lo reemplace así. Posiblemente Dugares podría ir en su reemplazo.
@J-ay-B-ee4 жыл бұрын
How come only two Lady debug?
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
This video was made like 3 weeks ago. The deck have changed a lot to be honest. You don't need Bufferlo anymore, it's a better starter Debug. Because of the Linkross and Halquifibrax Meta centric the deck can also play Phanstamay and Veiler instead D.D. Crow.
@CMThoughts244 жыл бұрын
Salads best deck i believe
@alejandroduran434 жыл бұрын
Wow, now is in meta again, i want support for altergeist
@valeriosanna16924 жыл бұрын
PLEASE WHEN MEGALITH PLEASE
@pablojonathanconfesorherna98454 жыл бұрын
Falta el video de los madolche!!!
@ilfisicobestiale80454 жыл бұрын
This deck was the deck with the lowest stata in this Channel and now we have a reason to call It salamanGREAT
@FlyBoyKhi4 жыл бұрын
Sky Striker!
@giulioyou58174 жыл бұрын
The name of the lvl 1 monster?
@ExordiodelDuelista4 жыл бұрын
Formud Skipper
@elpote65424 жыл бұрын
En llamas...
@darketars9884 жыл бұрын
Jajaja cuando konami libera una carta que le pudo dar plus importante a su juego pero solo mira caballito es su unico XYZ tal vez si hubiera otro XYZ salamandro quizas el soporte no estuviera muerto quizas konami a mi punto de vista se exedio con el caballito ya que apesar de un super una vez por turno restriccion elemental fue baneado de golpe sin pasar a 2 o 1 copia sinceramente los salamandros no tenian porque ser golpeados de esa forma no dominaban el meta estaban en el.pero no lo dominaban en cambio el sky duro 4 años casi el.orcust 2 años intacto asi de injusto se vio konami :s asi que se cumple la regla de que las buenas estructuras son golpeadas a futuro
@darketars9884 жыл бұрын
@@dukevania Si pero hasta donde se no esta disponible en TCG
@Scifiwriting414 жыл бұрын
This just goes to show you how unhealthy the format is. This deck scores so high compared to pretty much every deck El Exordio has showcased and yet here it is tier 2.
@nabkill01344 жыл бұрын
with the existent of eldlish,adamncipator, water post eternity code, dinosaur post eternity code and pend magician yep this deck got nothing compare to tier 1 of the format even thought this deck is like really good even if sala gazelle at 1
@Scifiwriting414 жыл бұрын
@@nabkill0134 this deck is just as good if not better than dinosaur and pendulums. Water is perhaps better, but that has yet to be seen.