Salomon Toundra Pro CS WP 40F 40C 5 year review

[@paska68]

These are really good boots. I use them on my winter bike commuting to work. Keeps my toes toasted even -30 celsius

[@bingoberra18]

Thanks for the update, now I know to look around for other boots.

[@JuliusToltesi]

I would until they address the problem. Thanks for feeding the algorithm :)

[@larsk7744]

There is already an updated version with extra stitches at the shown seam.

[@sleepingisnice]

@@larsk7744 Thank you! I found the updated version! Also thank you, Julius!

[@DougStaples]

The brightness on this video is much better!

[@JuliusToltesi]

Perfect. Thanks for commenting. The other one was filmed and rendered in 4K and this one rendered in 1080p. Wonder if that had anything to do with KZbin making the blacks darker. Who knows lol.

[@kendtchileninjah5905]

I’ve been watching this boot for some time now. I’m grateful for a superb review and also 5 years is also a good amount of time to review. I ride a motorcycle in 20 degree weather which is not so cold compared to what you get but my feet still get cold after about 20 minutes. I really think it’s time I order a pair of these or the forces

[@JuliusToltesi]

Thanks for your comment

[@arturspipins7385]

Today I got this. Will test , currently outside temperature is -15 degrees C.

[@paliy241]

Looking into some other brands to use in harsh new england environment

[@okthen22ok]

Baffin.

[@guydivosta4075]

Hi Julius, I’m going to Ukraine (December 2023) to defend my fatherland. I’ll hit the trenches sometime in February, which is the coldest month there. You say these boots kept your feet warm even at something like -40F? Really no issue with frostbite with these even in that low of temperatures? Thanks

[@JuliusToltesi]

The coldest I hiked in was -37F and my feet stayed warm while hiking and around camp. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYvHo5ZnecZpjMk

[@guydivosta4075]

@@JuliusToltesi thank you for reconfirming!

[@gcruishank9663]

@@guydivosta4075 My goodness, hope you’re doing OK.

[@guydivosta4075]

@@gcruishank9663 doing alright thus far, mate. Thanks

[@barkobunga2276]

Hey friend. Hope you're OK. If you get experience in the colder months, please share how your boots hold up. I pray you get home safe.

[@allenvoss7977]

Should I go a half size bigger or do they fit to size ?

[@JuliusToltesi]

Hard to say as I find sometimes they can be off with years in-between. These fit me to size and I wear merino socks. But I have some Salomon summer hikes and I bought the same pair, same size and I should have gone up a half size. Altitude Sports (Canada) offers members free returns, so it might be a good idea to order 2 sizes.

[@Cipher_Nine]

I personally went a size bigger, it fits perfectly with thick socks

[@stevelong8135]

Had two pairs because Salamon replaced the first ones due to leaking. They last about six months then leak...

[@JuliusToltesi]

It's good that they replaced them but hope they fix the issue since it's so common.

[@stevelong8135]

@@JuliusToltesi The replacement was the same as the first pair... I have just thrown the second pair in the bin. I could complain again as they are not a year old but I cannot be bothered. Going to buy a different brand now. Great boots when you first ge them but they dont last long. I could say the same about other Saloman boots as well.

[@gcruishank9663]

Hmmmm, just bought a pair of these. I wonder if you can fill those cracks in with some kind of silicon or flexible waterproof glue? Too bad they're not addressing this issue. I think the thing to do is wear the heck out of them in the 2nd year so you can claim warranty.

[@gcruishank9663]

What I learned is that the newer version now have stitching around those seams, which is the version I have, so hopefully those will hold up better. I wore these with a thin Merino wool sock in -20C for a few hours and my feet were warm. I bought one full size up so made sure I have plenty of room for either thick socks or moisture liners or both. Seem like a good choice so far for winter camping/snowshoeing.

[@GetUpTheMountains]

@@gcruishank9663 I have the stitched-seam version from 2 years ago. I've put lots of miles hiking and snowshoeing up mountains with them and my seams are holding up just fine.

[@gcruishank9663]

@@GetUpTheMountains good to hear that, thanks.

[@MaurizioLaMarca]

Quale è la versione aggiornata?

[@gcruishank9663]

@@MaurizioLaMarca the first version had a glued seam around the top of the toe that wasn’t stitched. There were a lot of reports of that seam splitting. The newer version holds up a lot better. These are great boots, very warm but like any winter boots order at least one full size up to give you lots of room for thick socks

[@hans8469]

I will go to Russia soon, do you have a boot suggestion for me?

[@JuliusToltesi]

The Salomon Forces might be a good choice.

[@GetUpTheMountains]

Toundra Pro users, what universal crampon have you had success with on these boots?

[@JuliusToltesi]

I use the Grivel G10 on my boots

[@GetUpTheMountains]

@@JuliusToltesi No issues with the heel fitting in? I have tried 2 brands of crampon, Camp and Black Diamond and neither allowed the heel of the Toundras to sit nicely between the vertical metal tabs in the back.

[@JuliusToltesi]

@@GetUpTheMountains I've only used them a few times in the Adirondacks and don't recall ever having a hard time or re-adjusting them. I could send a picture with them on if you want.

[@CostaFlocas]

@@JuliusToltesi Indeed, the G10s and these boots are a match made in heaven. The upgraded version of the boot with the double stiching has permanently solved the seams problem. Perhaps a significant crampons tip for these specific boots: I would recommend the Grivel G10 WIDE version (not the standard one), as the front basket is considerably wider (to also accommodate snowboard boots)... Also, the G10s come with a flexible bar, as opposed to the G12s, G14s, and up, which come with a rigid bar. As these boots flex quite a bit, a rigid bar is NOT recommended as it may cause the boot to come off the crampon...

[@ERKENSSON]

Hi! I also bought myself a Toundra Pro a week ago, but then I started reading reviews on them and was horrified at how many complaints they receive and the problem is the same for everyone - they are torn along this very seam that connects the nose to the plastic side part. In general, I was scared and passed back before it's too late! Many even tear after a week or a month of use. Salomon knows about this problem but does nothing. It is strange that you want to take them again, since nothing has essentially changed - the design itself is unsuccessful and unstable in this place and there is absolutely no confidence in the reliability of these boots. It's like a lottery - how lucky. And why, in this case, encourage a manufacturer who knows about the problem, but is not going to change anything?

[@JuliusToltesi]

Ya. I personal sent them the video and the said they sent it to the proper department. Not sure how true it is but not much can be done. I hope my video reaches people before they buy. It looks like the forces boot has a better stitch. I’m actually going out tomorrow winter camping and still use them. They are warm. I hope I can find someone that can repair them so they last a bit longer.

[@ERKENSSON]

It will be very difficult to repair them, since two different materials are connected there - a soft nose with a hard almost plastic side part and it is almost impossible to flash them, since the density is different and you can’t crawl from the inside - there is a continuous layer of insulation! The seam is a little different on the new version of the boots, but even the new version already has complaints. For quality, they generally had to make a transition from the nose to the sidewall from a single piece of material. Now I'm thinking of getting a model from Baffin for mountain climbing instead. It is much heavier, but there is thick and natural nubuck and it is cast, seamless! I am very sorry, I had to return the Tundra - it was very light and technologically advanced!

[@CostaFlocas]

Got mine over a month ago and loving them; don't want to take them off my feet! Mine have beefed up double stiching running alongside that seam (probably an updated version) and after quite a few hikes (including in snow/ice with crampons on), they don't show any signs whatsoever of a coming apart seam... Most def I'd buy them again, they are DA BOMB! 💯 (Seriously though, not an exaggeration to say that they belong in the top 3 technical shoes I've ever owned.) As for how hot they are: in sub-freezing temps (alas, haven't been in less than -5C/23F, so far), I have yet to feel any cold, even when going into knee-deep snow for some distance... I even wear them at the office indoors, no problem with excessive heat/sweat in comfortable temps. 6 out of 5 stars for me (particularly for the price bought €150/$160)! 💪

[@ERKENSSON]

@@CostaFlocas You won’t believe it (I still hardly believe it myself), but a few days later I returned to the store and took my Toundra Pro back :)) I thought and decided that I’m definitely among the models from other manufacturers with such light and warm shoes I won't find. By the way, mine is also from the updated model line and is also stitched on the sides with a double seam, but I don’t know if a double seam will give real increased reliability or is it just a fake from Salomon!

[@JuliusToltesi]

@@CostaFlocas That's good to hear. It looks like Salomon Forces have upgraded the stitching as well.

[@okanagan.outdoors]

all solomon boots blow out in that area

[@pecent]

Did they fix the separation meanwhile?

[@JuliusToltesi]

Not that I'm aware of. If I see them on the shelf next time I'm shopping, I'll have a look.

[@pecent]

@@JuliusToltesi Thank You very much!

[@AlexanderMason1]

yippity yipyip yippeeyahyoh! Woohoo!

[@okthen22ok]

Baffin.