SaltEMike Reacts to Star Citizen Live: Q&A Jump Points

[@aguspuig6615]

31:00 simple idea that could fix this. The jumpdrive is already talked about as creating a ''bubble'' arround you. In a real space, the bubble makes you go fast becuase of space dilation or whatever. On a tunnel however, the bubble creates stable, livable space arround you, much like Geller fields in the warp in 40k. So if you shoot outside of your ship you just see teh bullets dissapear once they get out of teh bubble, maybe they could even make a cool lookingeffect were the bullets dissappear into tiny clouds of sparks, or whatever else. Then you have it solved at a gameplay, lore, and visual level.

[@aguspuig6615]

I feel like crossing permanent jump points should be reasonably easy but very spooky looking. Sort of how pretty much no big international cargo trading ships sink. But if you look at videos of cargo ships going trough open ocean it looks dangerous as fuck.

[@dark1810]

mike saying jarad cant take being memed on being a problem while unironically getting butt hurt when they react to him as a reactor and shuts down any discussion of his points like with the eve online stuff is funny af

[@barnaclebob1182]

i love mike but he does take their comments too personally sometimes

[@cookiejarvis3856]

The guy's a literal manbaby, but I feel him sometimes. Especially when people constantly talk shit about him despite sometimes just being straight up honest. So I respect him for it, everyones got their issues.

[@tricktap8502]

I mean the fact that a gaming company personally calls out a youtuber to me is hilariously cringe..

[@Fopserr]

@@tricktap8502 Good thing it's not actually the Company doing it then

[@TKanal3]

@@tricktap8502holy sh*t a community manager interacting with a community member 🤯

[@tbor7710]

Sounds like they get together on this show to design the game, once in a while.

[@Fragnatix]

Between Jpeg creation sprints

[@RN1441]

Isn't it great how we're 12 years in to this thing and stuff that was allegedly just around the corner 8 years ago like a second star system still has so many details they haven't figured out yet. Oh well, as long as they've started talking about considering thinking about planning a committee to look into the need to handle someone committing a crime in other star systems, we are in good hands.

[@aguspuig6615]

@@RN1441 some huff copium, some huff hopium, youre about to OD on hatium my dude

[@thefryinallofus]

They really don't like to talk about player behavior when it shines a light on their incompetence as developers and in their design decisions.

[@aguspuig6615]

31:50 inb4 someone gets obliterated by an interdimensional traveling missile or railgun shot

[@1ronsid3]

I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that jump points won't work on 4.0. You're probably going to have to select which system you want to play on. Or even worse there will be 2 versions of Star citizen. Or it's going to take ages for 4.0 to come out.

[@JJS563]

11:12 It literally sounds like these guys are making shit up on the spot when talking about jump points

[@Ogata123]

They likely are lol.

[@RN1441]

This is a star system that was supposed to be here six years ago, with other systems in general supposedly coming 'next year' in 2016 8 years ago and they are still talking about thinking about considering maybe forming a committee to figure out how to handle a simple problem.

[@DaringDan]

They'll do a 45 minute premade video about a new system and everyone will lose their shit and we won't get it for years. Go back and rewatch the Pyro wormhole Carrack video from 2019.

[@CHEESYhairyGASH]

But, GTA 6.

[@mariodoccia4531]

@@CHEESYhairyGASH they can't lie anymore, it could affect really bad their reputation on the videogame industry(it's already bad but it can't be more of that)

[@CHEESYhairyGASH]

@@mariodoccia4531 GTA 6

[@derjadebaum9159]

Man it started 2016 - was announced for 2018.

[@RN1441]

@@derjadebaum9159 At citcon 2016 Chris said multiple star systems were coming in 2017.

[@tentacle_love]

It's good that they answered your questions. Nice to know about the planned shotgun effect keeping groups together and preventing them from exploding as soon as they exit.

[@RN1441]

Jare'd job title is 'hype man'. His job is to build hype regardless of how delayed, off track, or plain wrong the choices coming out of CIG are which is why he's the 'upcoming pyro system' barker. Even though he just had this sit down with the developers who told him straight up that in this system that he's been lying about being coming 'next year' for six year running they still haven't figured out what they are going to do about basics like crime stats. Does Jared stop them and dig in to the implications or ask them how many other basic details are still missing that would derail the latest lie from CIG that Pyro would be here in 2024? No! He starts pivoting to talking about different systems for the upcoming con con to help people forget about the lies and get hype.

[@Ogata123]

Flying through the jumpgate will be fun… once or twice

[@sirbonobo3907]

yeah this will be fking annyoing i dont want jump points i just want hypercruise and be afk until i enter next star system

[@captainash1297]

@@sirbonobo3907Go play elite dangerous then? Different game, different approach

[@dark1810]

mean thats games 101 new experience is new and exciting and then becomes a ball ache

[@Ogata123]

@@dark1810in Satisfactory, manually mining and smelting your ore is entertaining once or twice. Then it gets really old. But then the game starts introducing ways to get around what has now become tedium. Systems and tools that open the game up to something that doesnt get annoying after one or two times or even 200 times. You can still hand mine and smelt, its available if you screw up royally or really want to, but for everyone who doesnt want to be bored to death with tedium, the game opens up into creative paths that avoids the tedium. I see the tedium in SC. Heres to hoping they figure out how to create at least some creative paths to avoid the tedium and actually make a fun game.

[@InfernalRum]

Lmao you love it. Someone in the verse sums up why we play “we just like a little CBT”

[@alr1242]

"The SRV worked for literally five seconds." Yo that's at least five seconds longer than the Bartender AI we waited years for.

[@AlexandreParchomenko]

at this point, Jared looks more like THE face of Star Citizen than Chris Roberts himself

[@jamescossey6372]

They need to make missions were players become part of the uee. Some of those missions could have you policing the gateways. They could have markers nearby that would be NPC Pirates. Then if player Pirates show up they would get a marker. This way you could have NPC police and player police. Then you would also have NPC Pirates as well as player Pirates. They could potentially even give missions for players to go kill off the player police add NPC police. To throw in even more gameplay let's say there is a bar that shows who has control of the area. When the Pirate players complete a mission that moves the bar to the pirate side and when the player police complete missions the bar moves closer to the uee side. Police missions are worth more then the pirate side. Once the Pirates move the bar enough then for 30 minutes or an hour the uee falls back to regroup allowing anyone to utilize the gate

[@CHEESYhairyGASH]

Nyx in Q3 2034

[@TheStumafoo]

2036

[@hal64738]

lol

[@CobusGreyling]

Star Citizen V1.0 LIVE-MkII Tier 0 4 star systems 3 years after mankind lands on Mars

[@CHEESYhairyGASH]

@@CobusGreyling Q4 2045

[@wardaddy454]

28:22 it's kind of like a warp field in Star Trek or something. The drive is attuning you to the tunnel and providing a kind of field stability. The better grade or the larger size will determine how well your drive does these things.

[@MegaTigerNinja]

Death of a spaceman will never work. Too many griefers

[@AlexandreParchomenko]

this, so much. Griefers and that new "meatgrinder" concept from CIG

[@itviking1651]

The trade way between Stanton & Pyro was established when Pyro was a major Industrial system, prior to the it's being abandoned. The company running the show pulled out of Pyro due to the extreme operating costs related to the Sun's radiation & lack of government support.

[@Ragecon87]

Saw someone comment there is gameplay with jump gates that won’t be there without them… what gameplay is that? Shooting fish in a barrel?

[@lolsalad52]

The map that guy linked at like 25 minutes in was almost 10 years old and out of date 🤣 yet they were saying its the best map ever. Since then ships sizes for jump points have changed and I think even system connections have changed as well.

[@tomificated]

Pyro was initially mined for the major resources but the solar flare made smaller resource gathering less possible. Therefore it became a crime zone. With new tech in shielding after the alien war the system became more accessible for smaller resource gatherers. Large industrial orgs didn’t like to deal with the lawless but smaller orgs can profit from it

[@tomificated]

Pyro is a major resource zone but its history makes it difficult to Bring it u see UEE control. So the jump gate is alike tha Panama Canal. Heavily guarded at the port and it’s our problem to get too* the port

[@HeloHounds]

Pyro still needs food and supplies for the inhabitants to survive, therefore the factions should allow merchants to bring their goods, which makes it a major trade way. That's how I could envision that.

[@TKanal3]

wow what a great video, I clicked on the video and said to myself „wow this is a great video“

[@xSKOOBSx]

The jump drives make perfect sense, my guess is some will have better maneuverability whereas other will be faster, etc.

[@toyahinata]

i love mike´s chat xd

[@Kahless47]

So today, "early days" only refers to this one feature, not to the project in general. What will "early days" mean tomorrow when they're facing criticism for the unreliable state of the entire game?

[@RN1441]

They told us at Citcon 2016 that multiple star systems were coming in 2017. This is absolutely not early days for jump systems regardless of whether they haven't done their homework for 8 years.

[@mariodoccia4531]

why not do the "stargate" jump point on the strongest UEE systems like Terra?

[@80KBM]

1:05:25 They are talking about 4.0 live right? @saltEMike Reacts Will we be able to hide drugs and transport them throu jumppoint or will the atc scan ships before departure?

[@gergenskits3940]

I think Jump rings is not the thing to argue about. I recall there being discussed a mechanic of mapping a jump wormhole, and selling the data, and then the buyer gets autopiloted through the jump point. so you don't always have to pilot yourself.. what happened to THAT? it was a whole income stream

[@PandaTheGray]

@1:03:00 Set respawn in Pyro, travel to Stanton, weaponize ship self destruct in own ship or stolen ship, spawn back in Pyro.

[@Ragecon87]

You will lose these things on destruction. Which is the planned design

[@PandaTheGray]

@@Ragecon87 they said in the video, 'if you die, you spawn at the last place you set your spawn.' I never said anything about keeping things.

[@JtheMitch]

back in prison u mean, stanton jurisdiction. ur gonna get locked up

[@PandaTheGray]

@@JtheMitch That's not how it currently works when you weaponize a ship's self destruct. What happens is, you respawn and then the crimestat is assessed. It's about the same as accidentally crashing a ship with passengers inside, 'negligent homicide' is the charge iirc.

[@JtheMitch]

@PandaTheGray damn didn't know. That sure is stupid then huh 😆

[@Ticoriko]

Mike I hope you see this , a way they can keep the Starmap EXACTLY THE SAME is by leaving the Large jump points as permanant ones and every system that says it has a medium or small jump point is telling you that trasnient jump points have been spotted in that size and they lead to HERE , that would make them INFINITELY More usfull and saught after when we have more system because through permenant jump points castra to Terra might be 3 jumps but a transient one could exist in Pyro that leads straight to Terra saving you a jump , making jump point hunters EXTREMELY valuable

[@aguspuig6615]

1:12:55 Not only that, it would solve some lore issues. Like rn, the ATC controls your quantum drive so you dont skip que, how do they do that? why is that not used in warfare if its that easy? Its the Holdo manouver all over agin. Instead a gate provides a visually clear explaination, they control the point by using the gate

[@Count_Apostasy]

I had no problems at all towing with the SRV the other day. Gathered ships for salvaging as an org

[@AlexandreParchomenko]

The Carrack is a big ship, I'm sure it can fit more than one kind of radar !

[@digdug4123]

Valheim has good gameplay and the visuals are great

[@Citizen-Nurseman]

The turret answer isn't good imo, since at this point in the game....they should really have the answer and relying only on NPCs and turrets is a single point of failure I've posted extensively on Spectrum, but stations and players putting out distress calls to bring other PVP players to the area to fight the other PVP players is 100% the way to go imo and not only helps secure places but also provides emergent gameplay

[@ArcAngelttv]

Idk man we keep coming back about the jump gates. Logically it makes sense to me. Gates keep thing stabilized while the others that randomly appear are what they look now.

[@KaiKieschnick]

In a land before early days... that's that movie with that dinosaur and the treestar, right?....

[@digdug4123]

UEE controls the jump points how are Xenothreat getting into Stanton

[@morganlefay-k4c]

The answer is already there, you need 2 working brain cells to find it

[@TheStumafoo]

They make shit up on the fly fuck this game

[@TKanal3]

In lore? Transient jump points

[@RoswellCrash]

What about the carrack that should be special with its arms and make it easier than other ships????

[@GeneOh]

Yeah, that shit was just sales talk.

[@jingleban]

How much jump fuel is required? The answer is always a derivative of 42.

[@thefryinallofus]

Early days... this alpha will be a teenager soon. A teenager.

[@thomasinlondon2849]

Turrets don’t fire in nav mode, do they know their game?

[@Embarkation1]

I don’t think they were hinting at another system. I think they were hinting at another jump gate. Yes it could be another system, but really it’s just a gate to an instanced server running an event. (Not that there is ANYTHING WRONG with that).

[@wardaddy454]

New career for carrier owners: offer transport for citizens and their small ships for that hands-off bathroom break.

[@toyahinata]

When jared got pissed i was laughing so hard, looked like he tried to be the big chris character.

[@Broccoli_32]

12:00 kinda dumb to get hyped by the base building teaser then complain about a star system teaser as both of them aren’t coming to the game anytime soon

[@saltemikereacts]

I literally was not hyped in the teaser...

[@The_Real_bubbazaneti]

"I dont give a FUCK how it looks" Spot On Mike! And "Early DayZZzzzz...12 years after" So!!!They Fucked up the jump points...why just not jump to Pyro like we jump between planets then???? seriously?

[@swbftor403]

They should have a small holding area in pyro and then transport the prisoners back it could be cool

[@diva.3641]

good reference to albion online very good reference cig can learn a little bit from albion online. A little i mean A LOT

[@nerdglider]

No Jarad is the community director 😂

[@Ogata123]

Considering the control CIG marketting has over so many shill mind, id say thats an accurate title

[@Marlax-101]

they need an anti keeping people from afking at the exit point. even if it is big someone gonna crash

[@RahzZalinto]

damn no timestamps with chapters? Fell off

[@saltemikereacts]

? I have never done them ever...

[@ZipinS1]

Using time for the jump points makes it alot more predictable, and potentially less frustrating, as I will not be mad at the thicc boy who got just infront of me, "using up" the jump point with his mass.

[@TL-mp1br]

Sounds like it's EARLY DAYS

[@TobiHReact]

Let us have passport jobs at the jumpgates so we can play papers please in SC :3

[@rjwnz69]

No issue for me... I have a multipass

[@Marlax-101]

if you could self destruct in nav mode tho.... or ram people.

[@Fragnatix]

CIG braging about they can do cool events. I mean, seriously, Cig, cmon lol

[@KickstarterRadio1024]

They are representing their dev build Mike, not the Live servers.

[@UH60-Arthur]

Do they even play the dumpster fire if a tech demo? The list of "comming soon" is out paced by the list of "broken, adding next patch, and bugged" 10 fold. Fix the bugs before adding more broken "content"

[@DavidOlver]

hello, salty drugs and all manner of vice are worth billions a year on Earth today.[19.39]

[@c-shepard]

Endless contradictions by CIG. No chance jump points will be a thing with thousands of players in active server sessions. Jumping should be allowed anywhere with incentives for jumping in specific areas.

[@SpaceBound-1]

Progress is too slow. I'm checking out. I'll be back in a few years.

[@RoswellCrash]

He’s a community manager but with star citizen the community manager is more he read ands listens and is our portal in making things change more so than a typical community manager. Sometimes it helps, sometimes it hinders 😂

[@tyr6t6r27]

Jump points..smallest part of the game that needs its own 1.5hr video? What about...I dunno.. important parts of the game already implemented that need work first?!

[@0xc1d34]

😊Not only will they not let you through jump points for being a good murderer but game devs will ban your account and call it grief fuck this game

[@Mace1000S]

Supercheap jump drive are a lot of work to jump, cruise control jump drive go make a sandwich. by different speed drives

[@mikenunn8696]

Physical invetory at a screen isn't actual Physical invetory. It's the same as the magical screnbwe always used . It's just only used on a separate screen now... Cigs laziness It's getting worsem😊

[@realmwatters2977]

I want hacking hips in Pyro only!

[@quantom6]

Srv towing still works. Lol wtf he on about?

[@Terran0va_Plays]

The fake hype attempts are so null now lol. “Or maybe there’s more content we haven’t shown you yet 👀👀.” Bro just deliver what you HAVE shown…

[@TheStumafoo]

After watching this video I realize they are shoveling shit against the wall and seeing what sticks.. such bad development..

[@cybee89]

The game is broken DO NOT buy .

[@swbftor403]

By drastic measures he meant not allowing ships to fire lmfao relax bro

[@thefryinallofus]

They can be such bullshit artists. It's so infuriating. The guy in the red shirt needs to be fired.

[@DavidOlver]

First, you want The Pyro system to be dangerous then you don't ?????? castra will be safe

[@BigBobBlazer]

Honestly, I’m just sick of the BS coming from CIG. In 2019, they said Pyro/4.0 would be released the following year. FIVE years later, devs explain that server meshing still isn’t complete, Pyro is still being built, jump gates are still not finished and they STILL haven’t worked out how crimes will play out in the lawless system they’ve talked about for nearly a DECADE. One could easily forgive those who accuse Star Citizen of being a scam. There’s only two explanations for their actions: they’re either scamming or they’re completely incompetent. Either way, I’m seriously doubtful that this game will ever amount to much unless a dramatic change in the company personnel and authority structure occurs.

[@thomasknight5465]

mastermodes is fucking stupid, they just need to revert

[@Crittek]

I’m gonna go full copium and say we’ll have 50 systems by 1.0 with the caveat that server meshing and the network stack as a whole goes pretty well.

[@CHEESYhairyGASH]

1.0 in Q3 2041

[@Crittek]

@@CHEESYhairyGASH Probably 2028 for initial beta version. 4.0 January 2025 then SQ42 release in Q3 Hopefully a year of testing before everything goes live, full persistence. SQ42 release Q3 next year. Could be wrong, probably am, don’t care if I am cause I’m having fun speculating.

[@CHEESYhairyGASH]

@@Crittek SQ42 in Q4 2034

[@JDJ1213]

@@Crittekbahahahahahahahahahahahahahahajahajajajajajajahahahaha

[@InfernalRum]

Bro I’m about to over dose of copium as I take my next hit. We will have this full game and it will be bug free and everything works so good that it’s the next big space GTA with 400 players. God my kids will be so happy XD

[@derjadebaum9159]

Sorry SaltE, Videos / Streams are a form of communication. When you communicate that within 3 seconds a wall ignites through a PISTOL then you have communicated in a wrong way. No one, absolutely no one will sit there, 5 minutes, shooting with a pistol (ammo?) to light a space ship wall on fire. When we are so far in the past in the futuristic game, why not introduce molotov cocktails and flamethrowers? In addition to that, that pico lit the pure metal ship walls also on fire in a few seconds just touching them. CIG still has one of the worst ways of communication and its also a problem cause CIG DOES stupid things so often we can not tell the difference between their stupidity and common sense appart. Thats todays resul of their YEARS of bad behaviour in the past. So stfu SaltE

[@Usgar]

SaltEMike Reacts Can you do me a favor, please watch this(your) reaction video and tell me what value you added to this with your reaction. It might be me being an old fart, but in the end you are just another gamer and I dont now we you think that your comments actually add any value. Again Im an old fart and dont really get all that reaction video stuff in general.

[@0Metatron]

I think they know that they have to be careful about shouting too loudly about how dangerous pyro will be because all the timid moaning, whiny spacedads might stop spending money 😂 And people are so desperate for a new system they will do anything they can to pussify it so that they can feel all safe and pathetic

[@GrimmSpector]

Let's not emulate every other MMO and EVE by having everything go from super safe to super not in a linear way, that's not interesting at all.

[@justinn5357]

47, complete disagree. Not fun at all, the point of SC is not to be every other game.

[@JollygreenFullSteam]

I'm getting tired of all these Griefer comments like with literally any feature or content CIG puts in the game, people always find a way to mention gRIeFERs. Like damn dude, go play No Man's Sky.

[@1aatlas]

And by griefers they mean pvp combat in general, People interruptin their single player experience, not the specific list of actions defined in the TOS as griefing.

[@rixxy9204]

Who cares. They'll need to wipe everything anyway for 4.0, so there's no point in even playing this.

[@phseeure-leaker]

Who cares until server meshing the state of the game is CRAP.

[@Atheica-Atheismos]

Mike, can you please stop video before you start talking? Why do you have the stupid habit of commenting when you can't be understood anyway. Mike, I don't think the community is that stupid. In short, after all those years of nonsense that CIG creates, the community expects only the worse. Nonsensical mechanics, nonsensical interfaces, nonsensical actions, nonsensical controls and nonsensical logic in everything the developers do. Yes, there are a few brainless people here too, but CIG itself is primarily to blame for such stupid questions. As for zones, placing a lawless system between two legal and protected systems is nonsense. From the logic of things, if you have a transport route, you want to have it protected and you want to get the material and things where you need them. So each of the protected systems would take care of their half of the rogue system to make it safe to fly through. By which the lawless system would cease to exist. And considering RR not being an aggressive group and focusing primarily on trade, Pyro simply cannot be a lawless system. Especially when surrounded by protected systems. It is always the case that safety decreases with distance. So it decreases proportionally depending on the distance from the safe system. Why? Quite logically, the movement of protective units. And referring again to EVE Online, that's where you can see it best. Nowhere is the system 1.0 adjacent to 0. This is just another example of nonsensical "CIG reality". If they've decided to do this, they should work harder on it. UEE protects jump points on both sides. So also on the inside jump points of Pyro. So it would be quite logical (if Pyro is a pass-through system) to make one protected station for refueling and maintenance between two jump points. Of course, the ships can be intercepted before arriving at the given station, but the immediate vicinity of the station would be protected. Just create a safe path inside a dangerous system.

[@JamestheKilljoy]

18:34 wanting the game to play itself is a weird take ill never understand

[@lolsalad52]

Its a loadingscreen, just allow the game to do its thing don't force me to have to win at loading

[@JamestheKilljoy]

@@lolsalad52 don't worry, old man. You will still have plenty of time to poop while you travel for 20 minutes between Pyro planets

[@lolsalad52]

@@JamestheKilljoy k

[@lolsalad52]

@@JamestheKilljoy but fr its just added dev time for a mediocre mini game that can't be hard enough to be challenging or fun and will just end up being an annoyance in the long run.

[@JamestheKilljoy]

@@lolsalad52 you haven't even played the first iteration, let alone the final product of it. It'll be okay. At worst, you'll have to put up with something that takes up .05% of your Star Citizen game time

[@itviking1651]

With all the bitching & complaining I see about them removing the gateways, I have yet to see one single good reason presented for keeping them.

[@MrSmith123123]

Bro fell off? /s ;)

[@BlackVirtue]

I've listened to them speak for 1:40 hours and I feel like I didn't hear anything at all.

[@Ghandi242]

He said he wants to give the griefers there gameplay 🥲🤤