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[@bnut1979]

Concierge in SC is a fucking joke. There are no real benefits other than "here, spend MORE money."

[@mrsasquatch4828]

That is literally why it exist, people said put it in a box so we can spend MORE money pls at a bar citizen. so they did.

[@lordfraybin]

No benefits beyond being able to BUY stuff. It's been a couple years since we've had a dedicated concierge community rep.

[@dfynestmax8716]

Why you mad tho?

[@64491601]

I have had my tickets responded to within 24 hours, for the same issue people have been waiting weeks if not months to get fixed, its better customer support and more leniency in what you request of them.

[@Em.P14]

i mean if you go over 10k you can go into the ingame "million miles high club" that's really something to keep paying towards (and for the extra stupid, yes this was meant as a sarcastic joke )

[@emmettwaller989]

He will play the game until he opens the key bind menu and then give up which will be about 30 seconds tops

[@Em.P14]

nah he will enter the pu try out how to do stuff and then glance at the keybind menu and then quit

[@lb2180]

He endgame raids in mmos, he's not new to keybinds.

[@Redpillroost3r]

​@@lb2180it's not even close to the same, just spamming macros isn't what star citizen requires.

[@AlmightyDexx]

@@Redpillroost3r not that complicated at all, I would argue wow hardcore raiding is harder way harder

[@burkadurgamur]

If you have a WoW sub for 10 years it's 1800 dollars sub alone, no name changes, mounts server xfers whatever else.

[@DaftMushroom]

Honestly I expected, you, Space Tomato or Ollie to be called for that interview. But...well, never mind 😂

[@saltemikereacts]

I was playing eve…that wasn’t a planned thing it just happens.

[@IndrasilDesignStudio]

3 people talking over each other is hell

[@PatriotJedi]

Im pretty sure the Ironclad ship sale pulled in over 3-4 million just for that ship alone.

[@Marlax-101]

I'll still stick around for the game to finish but they should add a shrine to the game with all the old backers names if we die before it releases. sq42 part1 will be interesting to see , im still on the fence about how good it will be off the small snips they have shown. graphicly good storyline and combat yet to be determined.

[@GNZ-uo1lr]

Ngl, happy that Asmon will try the game and he knows that it´s not gonna be perfect, BUT will try to have fun or explore as much as possible. If he is going to play it in 1 month, would be perfect, cargo update should be here in 1 month or so...Gonna be a good start

[@Billy-bc8pk]

Nah, he said a couple of months -- he wants to get through Cyberpunk 2077 and the new Elden Ring stuff first, which I think makes the most sense. You have to have a clean gaming palate for Star Citizen. It's a difficult game to juggle with other games unless you're playing small indie titles in the meantime.

[@GNZ-uo1lr]

@@Billy-bc8pk heh, am also gonna be busy with the Elden Ring dlc haha, but yea its hard to focus on star cit when you have multiple stuff coming up

[@fajarn7052]

Man, I kept refreshing KZbin waiting for your reaction Mike 😂

[@SpaceDad42]

You can’t form your own opinion?

[@Mindbulletz]

@@SpaceDad42 By that logic, you shouldn't have clicked on the video either. If you're gonna troll, make it funny.

[@fajarn7052]

@@SpaceDad42 I'm on the opinion that you are going around ragebaiting people, while not even doing it cleverly. That said, you can scroll up a few hours. I have some opinion to share, Mike even commented on it.

[@ephalanx1]

Issue is these were all pledges in the past.. It got started as part of kickstarter. It has evolved into this. It's hard to decouple how we got here to what is is now and comparing to other games. SC is simply not comparable to standard games. Its more a hobby for many. Sort of like people building sim pits and so on. I not sure why this isn't brought up with those novice to SC streamers. Plus people spent their money over time. It's not like dropping 10-48K a pop. Those are consolidated packages.

[@victorvendetta9409]

Ive seen some big ass credit limits working at a bank. Its fucking wild bro. What people dint have with stuff like this is any sort of self control.

[@merc9nine]

Yooooo that's exactly what happened to me. Never seen 2 girls 1 cup because I got meat spinned. I can still see it spinning.

[@Ashmodai]

Reactception 😂. I was about to watch the Asmon video... Now I can watch you both in one. How convenient 😅.

[@TiredEyeBags]

My first internet was when AOL first started coming out. when all there was was chat rooms and that was it. And I don't know what he was talking about at the beginning tho. I mean if he has a problem with the $48k package then just dont buy it haha

[@Marlax-101]

also they should give the old ship concept purchases a lifetime insurance upgrade. why do my 10 year old concept purchases got 6month insurance but would cost me 350 just to upgrade to a current lti version.

[@Day_Chap]

Being a Starcitizen expert. Was annoying hearing the two people he interviewed. They sounded like they haven't played the game for years or ever. They couldn't describe basic stuff. Or why a Javelin with 1 player isn't "better" than the starting Aurora.

[@eggertime]

If your able to ram it though, one definitely has advantages 😅

[@AcheliusDecimus]

Imagine how much people spend on WOW over the years, yet they worry about people spending on SC. I have spent exactly the same amount I spent on WOW on SC.

[@HomerNarr]

Ever played "Eve Online"? Groups like Goonswarm are highly organized and have / had a lot of influence. When "Elite Dangerous" came out, they immediately got in there too. OK not much happened since the ED infrastructure does not support the same kind of gameplay and they were not much more then griefers. Anyway, they expand into other games and not just Space Games. Groups like Goonswarm will buy those packages and "loan" ships to their members.

[@benjaminolry5849]

Release is when there is no need for the webhangar because your belongings can only be seen through the game.

[@HereIsZane]

The first caller was a bit clueless, the second one was full on delusional

[@PatriotLaLiLuLeLo]

🤣the part where you pulled up Chris Roberts when talking about fem dom had me cracking up I had to come and write this ahaha!

[@Casey093]

The "released game" concept is unknown to the cultists. In their mind, the perpetual state of alpha, redoing things, testing instead of finalizing, that is the perfekt state of a game. They do not know what development hell is, they do not WANT to know.

[@esteybarra]

I enjoy his choice of Skyrim ambience for bg music

[@frankjaeger3799]

I've always imagined Gundam/star citizen.

[@Darktidejg31]

Its hard to answer the question whats the point or end game in a sandbox style game. For some its just enjoying the loops they like to play. For others, it's an emergent gameplay that pops up when interacting with other players. Some like the grind of saving for the goal ship they want. Some like to roleplay sole, with a small crew or in an org. The ships help facilitate different experiences for me but are in of themselves not the goal. What that new ship now allows me to do is the goal. I have larger ships but find I 80% use the C8R for how I like to play. I have 3 kids that play the game and spend time grinding to get their ships and they enjoy zero to hero so they each have just starters. For them the journey is where they find enjoyment. I just like to play with them when I have time. So I bought a few ships to facilitate my ability to play and keep up with my kids. They feel if you buy mid to end game ships you cheapen the journey as thats the game for them. So it all depends on your goal or point of view for the game. All I can say is We got into the at 3.17 amd they have been making great progress since then. Cant wait for 4.0!

[@AnEmortalKid]

Ollie is just trying to BLOW asmongold’s mind

[@aber_rok]

It cannot be that hard to accomplish, there isn’t much to blow up 🤪

[@Casey093]

Mike, you should do more of those long react videos, this was great!

[@evemaniac]

Anyone who spends on a developement should be aware to the fact that it all can be lost and SC could end up beeing a thing that couldnt happen at all. And if you spend more then you can you should seek help and fix your buying habits.

[@Rift_Hawkman]

Second guy was better informed just very biased. First thing is the low spender vs high spender. Anyone who plays the game knows there’s ships that are better that are expensive however the super expensive are made to were a single player can’t really be effective in them. A single player in a Polaris will get smacked by an eclipse because then Polaris pilot only has access to torpedoes and those can easily be evaded to where the Polaris can’t because of it’s size. 1. Yes I think there’s a value in the game not full “releasing” because a release sometimes means a halt of content. I doubt it does in this sense but no one knows. 1.5. A full release nowadays doesn’t mean much when a lot of games benefit so much from being in “beta” 1.75. Realistic a 1.0 means a massive implementation to content like progression, essentially starting the game. I see it as Q3 2026 to Q2 2027z 2. The economy is broken and is going to be adjusted a lot until it’s found the sweet spot and if anything influences which can change in the future. 3. Meshing wasn’t successful at extreme numbers BUT it being successful around 200 is in SC terms. It’s new tech and will improve over time, expecting perfection first patch is crazy. 4. Why do players spend insane amounts? Players don’t, orgs do or a player that has money to throw. A regular 9-5 isn’t spending that much. 5. Is it a scam, no. However the argument of 42 being one is there. 6. Why does it take so long for developers to implement thing. Tech limitations and no communication.

[@haxorsp00n]

people seem to forget that these massive packs were asked for by the community way back in the day.

[@marcosdheleno]

ah yes, the good old "if nobody wanted to use crack, there would be no crack dealers near the school" defense.

[@chrisbarnes3435]

Did he say Legolas Navium?

[@saltemikereacts]

He did

[@usmcabbott888]

The Javalin 700? i wish

[@Silveraga]

we need asmon to meet with mike and spacetomato. he’ll get a lot more legit info than those two who say random shit between real facts…

[@myIceTea]

doesnt matter if you get EVERYTHING.... Its 50K...

[@Ragecon87]

Out of date knowledge does make you dumb when you are openly informing thousands of people on a topic

[@First_Chapter]

@SalteMike You mentioned that you don't understand why people want to pay to skip the game. It depends on what the game is. Personally, grinding to get a Vulture in which to go salvaging is not fun; it's an obstacle to using a Vulture to go salvaging which is the fun part. Grinding to get a Prospector in which to mine is not fun; it's an obstacle to using a Prospector to go mining which is the fun part.

[@saltemikereacts]

Well this isn’t a game yet, I mean paying to skip in actual games. This…people have earned ships 5x over and keep getting wiped…buy the fucking thing if you want at that point right?

[@First_Chapter]

@@saltemikereacts If there were the equivalent of a true starter ship that did ship-based salvaging and another that did ship-based mining then it would be great to use those to salvage and mine, progressing to a Vulture and Prospector and then onto a Reclaimer and MOLE. But there aren't such starter ships. Right now, starter ships can be used for combat and cargo - which is fine for those that enjoy combat and cargo - but not so fine for people who want salvaging and mining. It would be good were CIG to release ships equivalent to the Aurora and Mustang that can do salvaging and mining, catering for people who want those professions right from the get-go. Too much to ask and unreasonable?

[@cHr22o7]

I saw Asmons stream live yesterday ... the second guy in call with him was completly delulu

[@zachanator2011]

Lol how when he said he only spent 45 bucks lol the first guy was clearly bitter having spent 1000 dollars

[@malikthebarbarian6815]

The headline should always be you only need to spend $45 to play the game. You don't actually need to do any of this big purchase stuff. And you can pretend that's obvious all you want but to a lot of people it's not obvious at all. Some people don't even think you can buy ships in game. Some people think you can only buy ships with real money.

[@Brandon-bd8fk]

Much of what people think about star citizen, used to be true, but no longer is accurate.

[@SpaceDad42]

But really you do. A $45 package will NOT allow you to experience a VAST majority of the game in any reasonable time.

[@Eggroley]

@@SpaceDad42 Not completely wrong, but start with a Titan instead and it's easy sailing as long as you're doing the meta. The economy in this game is not great at the moment. Making money isn't that hard and the most lucrative jobs you can do aren't very skillful.

[@Billy-bc8pk]

@@SpaceDad42 Then grind for the ship that allows you to do what you want. You don't need every ship for every game loop, just the ship(s) that enable you to do what you want. It's like that in DCS World or Train Simulator -- not every vehicle will give you access to everything the game has to offer, so you will have to get different vehicles depending on what you want to do. The difference is that you don't have to pay for those vehicles with real money in Star Citizen, you can just partake in various gameplay loops. Also, the guy is right about making tons of cash just salvaging or doing bounties. In fact, most people made their big bucks in the 3.20 - 3.22 cycle just being crew mates on the Reclaimer, despite Reddit and Spectrum swearing that no one would ever want to be crew on anyone else's ship.

[@malikthebarbarian6815]

@@SpaceDad42 it's a multi-player game. So go play with other people. That's the whole point. If everyone has an idris no one is flying an idris.

[@frankjaeger3799]

All these outsiders think SC is a Full Game and react as if it is. It's just a tech demo that needed crowd funding and everyone is not used to such a crowd funded game. "Pay to win game" "scam" "broken AAA Game"

[@beefyjoe]

The 2nd guy coping about server meshing comming soon... comming soon... I been hearing about server meshing comming soon for well over 4 years now, still no server meshing in game. Lmao, what a joke.

[@raptorkysen177]

First of all there is no DLC. here; A DLC is an additional content you download over the base game ; all flight ready ships are already part of the base game whenever you pledge for them or not , and the "jpeg" ships will be added as part of the base game when they'll be flight ready please be more carefull regarding the words you're using, too much words loose their signification overtime

[@ThaKidd-RSI]

lmao! first off, i love watching people like mike that rarely has anything nice to say about the shit that i am into. when i say that, i watch most of your streams/vids mike. i'm in my early 40s and i only give a shit about space games cause everything else is dumb imo. i have played eve since 2008 and still have 8 accounts active. i also played ED for a few years...a few years back (and the grind sucked). i started playing star citizen around 2019. i've probably spent $1500 on sc at this point because i wanted to. sc has pissed me off with its bugs. so has eve (sc much worse of course -- alpha). what all of the haters are missing is the people. i joined goons in eve around 2012. they are fucking bad ass and made eve soooooo much better to play. same with sc: i joined my current org a little under 6 months ago and this shit is off the chain. hell we've been flying stolen idris' around all weekend during xenothreat. get away from people that are negative and toxic (sorry mike, that means you too). otherwise you will hate your gaming experience, whatever you might be into...even if its the best fucking game on the planet. with that being said, i am not trying to downplay those that are pissed off at what cig does or has done....but i am a cup half full motherfucker.

[@cyvan1750]

Yeah Sketch got a number of things wrong but those details only matter to us who are in the game. He got the basic premise across to Asmon better than others have. Is he biased? But at least he's coming from the POV of a person who didn't spend a crapload of money and stille enjoys playing the game. Usually these streamers pnly get the opposite.

[@Gunnberg85]

Also, what's up with Asmongold's and H3H3's twitchy eyebrows??

[@bluexgreen1]

So, someone on the internet is going on about a topic he knows nothing about. I would love to comment on his video about how dumb this is on so many levels, but I don't want him to get youtube benefit from a comment. To be clear: CIG does have a lot of quirks, but this guy has no clue about them.

[@wickednezz9441]

shit i graduated in 96 lol

[@xSKOOBSx]

Wow is released, yet the content gets updated. How does this guy now understand the idea of a game releasing?

[@fn8382]

He spend only a Little over 1 k . What a noob . I belived he was a big buy . I am a whale in this term with my 4890 usd . Good work spaltemike as usualy

[@gitanoclub]

Absolutely not a scam LUL

[@merc9nine]

No one is mentioning that those big expensive ships actually can't be flown solo, with some requiring large crews. You can't buy an Idris, and beat me in my Hornet 1v1. I might not by able to kill you, but you also can't kill me.

[@The_Real_bubbazaneti]

Hey Mike! enjoyed the react!! would have liked if U and Zack would get together at some point and talk about SC! It would be cool, if He could start the game totally anonymous, like most people do, perhaps with a Titan instead, and get the real feel for the game, instead of having helping hands nursing him, like they did with Sumit, and I would guess that you of all people would be the best person to enlighten him about this! just a thought! Cheers!

[@JamestheKilljoy]

The first person he interviewed said a bunch of stuff that was half true or completely not true. There are so many legitimate complaints you could have about the game or the developer, we dont need to make up crap. The 2nd interview was a lot better, though i didnt agree with everything he said and it also wasnt 100% accurate At the end of the day... Asmon might actually play the game which will be hilarious

[@IrisCorven]

Here's hoping not, if the "quality" of players Summit brought with him are any indication. Then again, Asmon's fans actually play MMO's, so might be better?

[@Billy-bc8pk]

Asmon needs to wait until 4.0 -- he said it will be a few months because he wants to complete a bunch of other games and wants to make Star Citizen a mainline game (seems to be giving it a lot of prestige for something he's never played) and basically make it a focal point of the channel for a while.

[@GenesisDG]

OH look, Star Citizen doing Star Citizen things.

[@jusmac1704]

🤷🏾‍♂️

[@dfynestmax8716]

Spoken like someone who has no idea

[@GenesisDG]

@@dfynestmax8716 Written like someone who has no idea

[@dfynestmax8716]

@@GenesisDG right.. it's really easy to spot Starfielf fans a mile away 🤣🤣 enjoy your loading screens.

[@MadsofMads]

@@dfynestmax8716I don’t think people realise… YOU FONT HAVE TO BUY THESE WITH REAL MONEY 😂 but everyone focuses on this. I only have I think 3 ships one of the is the Nomad and Anvil Hawk aaaannnndddd the freelancer??? Correct me if I’m wrong but it’s the mining ship. But yea they can buy ship in game currency as in… do a mission get creds and save up 🤣

[@dekulruno]

Concierge tickets get answered much faster? No way, I’m waiting over 3 weeks for a response from invictus about an upgrade issue with the retaliator lol

[@saltemikereacts]

Thought so

[@yous2244]

You're broke, pay ten thousand

[@gunsmoke9030]

I think its hit or miss, i made a ticket a couple weeks ago about having a ccu on a referral ship removed to get 230$ credit. Even though there not supposed to do this they did and the ticket was done and closed with 2 responses within 24 hours, and this was when they were busy with peoples broken oberdrive missions.

[@Paradox3713]

Facts 💯

[@ranishkA123]

I get my tickets answered in about 1 week. Then again, I'm twice over Legatus lol.

[@Dumb-Comment]

The first guy he invited sounds like he only has 1 braincell left

[@marcosdheleno]

which is 2 more than the second guy.

[@TyrHeimdal]

@@marcosdheleno He was more honest about things and generally more up to speed about the state, but def bending the reality for certain parts. Especially in regards to when they can have a polished release with majority of the promises implemented in a working state. A year away is not realistic at all. Three to four years is way more likely (at best). Still think the next year will be interesting in terms of having a more playable state with decent QoL and less jank.

[@marcosdheleno]

@@TyrHeimdal have you ever watched gundam? because ANYONE who has watched ANY gundam series can tell you, his comparison? MAKES NO SENSE. that alone was proof to me, that he was talking nonsense. and he lost all credibility to me after that. and as someone who has done what he said, but in warframe, he sounded less like a player, who enjoys the game, and more like a drug dealer who was handing "free samples" of crack with "no strings attached" near a school. dude genuinely sounded like SC is the most perfect game to ever exist with no flaws, and anyone with any disagreement, is just wrong.

[@SourDonut99]

​@@TyrHeimdalthe second guy was crazy when he said it's like Vegas and thinks the only people who gamble are responsible gamblers with the means to do so. He's definitely trying to put the situation in a better light than it actually is. Casinos are pure degeneracy preying on gambling addicts. Most of their income doesn't come from super whales. Casino income mostly comes from retired/semi retired seniors who's blowing their pension every month in a way that's beyond their means. Star Citizen is probably funded by dudes without wives in their parents' basement. At least the majority. At the end of the day if you don't interact with the predatory sales tactics then it's indeed not predatory. But if you do buy all this stuff and then maybe it is predatory.

[@Billy-bc8pk]

@@TyrHeimdal Majority of the rest of the features are just gameplay mechanics -- many of which were held up by PES and server meshing. Hacking was completed a while ago, and exploration is literally just dependent on the new scanning function. The jank and QoL stuff is all server related. So he may or may not be off about that assessment depending on how 4.0's implementation goes with stabilising server meshing. If they have something stable by the end of this year, it's not really a stretch that 2025 is just implementing mechanics and polishing them, which is nowhere near as monumental as implementing and stabilising foundational tech, which they have been doing for the last few years.

[@JJS563]

A 2 hour special from Saltemike. I have beer, I have popcorn and I have Star citizen trying to log in on the backround for the last 30min. Lets go!

[@GainDamage]

Login is particularly annoying today, I feel you o7

[@IsraelSocial]

😂😂😂

[@btr003]

put your star citizen game on an NVME

[@eddiepatch2]

I immediately got in and I've killed the idris 4 times today

[@GizziMoD]

do you tab to YT while waiting? i find it takes for ever that way.. stay in SC while loading its a lot faster i find

[@aguspuig6615]

In todays episode of flipflopping from ''selling ships is acceptable to fund the game'' to ''selling ships is literally a humiliation findom kink''

[@hephaestion12]

😂 why can't both be true don't kink shame the concierge enjoyers

[@BigSunn0]

uh...this guy just telegraphed his weirdo shadow personality to everyone

[@JuanBrolo]

I can tell you right now... Concierge customer service is absolutely no different then normal customer service..... They take weeks to answer a single question....

[@marcosdheleno]

you are not the first person to say this, which makes me question is that a good thing or a bad thing? because if you, who are spending ALOT, is still being treated like a nobody, does that mean they just dont care, or do they manage to treat those who just paid the minimum even worse?

[@JuanBrolo]

@@marcosdheleno I've spent an absolute ton of spare money with them. And have gotten worse treatment then several of my buddies who only spent the minimum. So they are just not good at helping backers anymore unless they are content creators

[@marcosdheleno]

@@JuanBrolo so its just that they dont really care.

[@JuanBrolo]

@@marcosdheleno I honestly think that so many of us have spent so much money And not enough of us have spoken out because fear of losing our stuff so they know at this point they can do and say whatever they want... I personally stopped sinking big money in about a year ago. I hope for the best with the project but they won't get another big purchase from me. Not until I see some actual results and the older ships finally start coming out... At this point every single new concept they do. Pushes the ships we already pledged for back another year.

[@SpaceDad42]

Not from my experience. Not at all. Maybe you are just a prick to them when you write.

[@phoenixsui]

I think asmongold should do a podcast with spacetomato. Would clear many misconceptions up i think.

[@DaringDan]

Don't worry, everyone will forget all about this like they do every year during CitizenCon. Streamers all seem to get amnesia during CitizenCon and jump back on the hype train like it's 2015 all over again.

[@aguspuig6615]

because no one really cares that they sell expensive packages for the game. They all come ot get their views on the easy outrage, but no one actually cares because its not even a bad thing

[@DaringDan]

@@aguspuig6615 The point is that this is who CIG is. They say a lot of stuff is coming the following year and then miss the mark. My point had nothing to do with expensive ships.

[@Billy-bc8pk]

@@DaringDan Every company puts out estimates and miss them... internally. That's why they keep those estimates internal, and if they need an extension it's usually denied, which is how we get Cyberpunk 2077 situations, where the game was released but in a broken and unfinished state. If CIG kept all their estimates internal then the same people who complain that CIG keep missing their deadlines would complain CIG isn't communicating enough about their estimated deadlines.

[@DaringDan]

@@Billy-bc8pk It only took 10 years to get Modularity to us so yeah you're totally right.

[@dfynestmax8716]

This was asked by the whales so they dont have to buy each item 1 by 1 its literally the price of every item in the game stop spreading misinformation just because you're salty

[@lonewolf00754]

Honestly both the people he interviewed seemed like they were just making stuff up at times. The second dude was completely unhinged though lol.

[@marcosdheleno]

dude literaly started spewing bullshit on gundam. that was all the proof i needed he was talking out of his ass.

[@tuckwalker670]

The first guy was talking mad shit about shit he didn’t even understand

[@marcosdheleno]

@@tuckwalker670 funny, because the second guy was the exact same when he started spewing bullshite about gundam. it was genuinely the meme of "that word doesnt mean what you think it means". it was painfull to listen.

[@lb2180]

The second dude overall had more accurate comments. First dude rattled off 2015 info

[@c-shepard]

"Did he just say the Javelin is $700, it's $3,000 by the way." Couldn't stop laughing.

[@YOYOTh1s]

Fucking Star Citizen marketing department again.

[@XShadowAngel]

Flawed as they are, they were specifically asked to make that package.

[@vorpalrobot]

Y'all blame them too much. And this package has existed for like a decade, what's this 'again'?

[@phoenixsui]

They do not even mention consierge i think let a lone the very big packs. And what happend to selfcontrol when buying things?

[@Billy-bc8pk]

So marketing is to blame for Concierge members ASKING for this pack?

[@ra.japanfrcs4274]

You don't need to buy 480000$ package that all ship in that pack you buy by ingame currency by grinding,pack was there from 2018,

[@Gofr5]

LMAO Mike Losing it at 1:23:30 when buddy says "A year, maybe two". I lost it along with Mike. A year or two? Buddy, we ain't even getting 4.0 THIS year!!! Was already saying this since February. The rest of this year will only be 3.23.X patches, and you think 1.0 is a year or two away? Haha, that was a good laugh he gave us.

[@edmundduke1296]

4.0 is supposedly coming in late Q3 or Q4. Is there reason to doubt this? Sure. Absolutely. Is it guaranteed? No.

[@Gofr5]

@@edmundduke1296 Nothing is guaranteed, my faith in CIG with their history of continuously missed deadlines and the rate at which 3.23 and its subsequent sub-patches are coming out have me not believing 4.0 will be out before Dec 31. Only believe it when it actually happens.

[@lb2180]

People are calling "no 4.0 this year!" way too early.

[@Gofr5]

@@lb2180 Well some of us have very little faith in CIG's timelines given their track record.

[@fajarn7052]

Man, I wish you were the one that got on board. You will spread the Salt but still churning out facts. Rather than the two guys that we got.

[@TexanWolverine]

UEC commercials on sc streamer videos.... terrible. First i see in Bored Gamer videos... now SaltEMike... can you prevent certain people from showing their commercials during your videos? Probably not Im guessing...

[@dekulruno]

I’ve been to a concierge event twice in LA that didn’t cost anything to go to, with Chris and Sandi and Ben and Lando etc those then turned into the general bar citizen events that you don’t need to be concierge to attend.

[@intrinsic7553]

cant wait for that SaltEMike's Reacts to 2 girls 1 cup. xD

[@saltemikereacts]

You win today 🥇

[@GhostOfSnuffles]

The fact CIG is forcing backers to vote against each other for parts of the game proves just how gullible backers are in the first place. They promised features and gameplay modes to everyone then decided to back peddle and make backers more or less fight for which side got part of what they were promised and the losing half gets nothing. The best part is that the people who win the vote still don't get what they want, it's just CIG promises that eventually they'll start working on it, someday, probably.

[@Billy-bc8pk]

Actually -- while the guy kind of got some things wrong -- it's good the first group didn't win because the game CIG was originally building was literally just Starfield. I don't see how anyone sees the way that game plays and goes "Yeah, I wish Star Citizen had stayed the course and was made like this".

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

on the topic of the yacht club.. before I even went into content creation, I saw them meeting up on yela. So I took my friends and an 890j that we got in the game over to the meetup spot, and those guys told me to fuck off because it's not a ship that we bought with real money.

[@nerdglider]

Bro you bring this up every chance you get 😂

[@SultanDesync]

I do not believe RSI can license their tech without serious legal challenges. And who would buy it? It's janky as hell. All these promises of the new tech making it easier to get content into the game habe proven to be lies.

[@ultrastoat3298]

I love it when real top 5 firm lawyers chime in in the comments and set all the people with brain worms straight.

[@BokehDev]

Ngl what would be funny is if when the game releases to 1.0 everybody starts with a small starter ship, and the ships you've pledged only unlocks being able to buy them in game right away. If I havn't pledged an 890j I'd have to unlock it first through missions and reputation, while someone who has pledged it can just buy it right away, as long as they have the UEC that is.

[@Staliris]

Thats actually such a cool idea honestly, would make everyone who paid a lot be pretty much equal to the other players without removing the perks of paying for ships irl

[@residentgiant]

Whales would just pay for UEC with real money

[@BokehDev]

@@residentgiant they will do that regardless

[@colonel__klink7548]

Ok dude, I seriously laugh at statements like "it's not a game." Ok, i can start the program. There are missions i can do, things to explore, challenges to complete. Players to fight against. In what way is this not a game? "but it's buggy!" so was the original stalker and i still enjoyed it. "But it's not complete! They haven't delivered everything they promised." that's ok! It's *STILL A GAME.*

[@HitmannDDD]

Last I heard, LTI covers the monthly premium for the insurance, but not the deductible. Custom components need to be insured separately.

[@lb2180]

That's more or less what it is last they discussed it but we don't have any definitive info

[@festersmith8352]

That sounds good when you say it. But what happens when you don't have LTI on your cash purchase ship, and your time insurance policy runs out? To many variables to include before anything real concrete becomes of insurance. For now its almost all speculation. What they have officially said, is that you will never lose access to your store purchased ship. The discussion about insurance seemed to put all focus on the word LTI, and didn't really mention the time policies on ships.

[@buckluny4030]

Jared explained LTI recently as the same as in freelancer, where it's mostly spaceport processing costs that's passively taking a tiny fee.

[@STRAGGLER36]

Star Citizen is not finished in any respect. You will spend most of your time dying for one reason or another usually because of crashes. Not being able to find out where you are or who your enemies are or what is actually going on. You will spend more time in elevators, rolling around in Black space looking for a place to go to get some little tiny object or MacGuffin that you will later try to use to get some kind of inventory. Either weapons helmets Machinery tools Etc. Those will often fall through the floor of your ship, through the floor or ground of the planet you're standing on or simply disappear, or be wiped when they upgrade the system or just simply poof they're gone. And because Star Citizen has written out their responsibilities to exclude anything of that nature they are held harmless. And the KZbinrs who do Star Citizen are either given extra support to get their entire video to look smooth add unencumbered with bugs . They have not even made the basics work in the game and it has been almost 12 years from what I understand. All they do is sell really cool and sexy looking ships into a game that does not exist into planets that you cannot get around on and into areas where you either get robbed or you will simply disappear. Sometimes it takes people a long time to figure that out, like me. Who feel very stupid now and sometimes people figure it out right away. But sometimes people dream and they dream and they dream and they dream and they just hope it's going to change and things will get better and they will get the game that they thought they paid for originally. That's never going to happen but they cannot accept that.

[@JoshuaFranklinDJ]

1994, AOL for me was my first Internet

[@domisPL_01]

1999 internet cafe in my city, i think (in Poland)

[@WyattsWildNature]

Texas instruments computer we had was fully loaded so around 1984 we had what was a really basic internet. More like logging into a message board and chatting and trading programs. My mom was into making graphics for games or business cards. She made one game and was trading it online. It was an interesting time. I got a paper route and bought my first PC in 1989 good old radio shack PC, called a Tandy 1000. :D

[@Billy-bc8pk]

1990 Compuserve here.

[@solventob]

CIG is a private company. They are not required to release financial information to the public. They don't have the same level of oversight as publicly traded companies from the SEC or government agencies. As such, those financials are not combed through. It is interesting that in 2022 their financials went up by 29% to match 1 to 1 the 30% in income. You could say they hired more or just increased salaries to the already existing ones. Which employees got the raises? We will have to guess.

[@KennyCutz]

Sorry Salt... but as a fan of Star Citizen I have to say... You can't separate the cost of "micro transactions" from the project itself. When you make comments like this is seems like you're cucking for CIG...

[@reaperx6125]

I am a poor person I bought this game for 45 dollars because it wasn't a 60 dollar game and now I have an 890j in game still only spent 45 dollars on the game

[@Eagle6Airsoft]

If there is one thing we can not believe, it’s cigs plans for LTI, cig have a proven track record for going back on things previously said when they actually come to implementing the gameplay loop. So just becareful with bold statements that LTI is meaningless. It could depending on implementation, be a pay to win nightmare that makes me not play due to a mental pay to win imbalance. It could, if the fee for people with non lti is 1 million to recover a ship or pay for insurance, someone who paid real money have saved 1 million in game credits every time your ship blows up. Let’s just say based on cigs history of back tracking things, I wouldn’t be so confident in my statements. It’s a real fear for me that after 15 years of waiting, star citizen ends up a pay to win mess that I wouldn’t want to play any way.

[@ScubaSteveTXST]

A lot of that concierge stuff went to the wayside years ago...

[@myIceTea]

in countries where you pay tax when buiying, you cant really exchange ships because you already paid tax...

[@46sestra]

To all of your who wrote one man one jar on the chat wich triggers my curiosity …. Well …. Screw you 😅

[@theatfshotmydog8224]

I’m Evocati and I’ve only spent around $800, I just have a lot of time played and bug reports.

[@IrisCorven]

God, Asmon's chat is utter mushbrains. "THIS GUY A DEV"... Nah, this guy has been playing the game for years, he sees the potential, and he knows most of the info. Some of it's wrong, like the server meshing test. But for the most part, a lot of what he said was correct. I love Asmon, he's actually an extremely intelligent dude who puts on a front. I feel like he'd come at the game from a very curious standpoint. I think he'd be more willing to give other systems besides piracy a chance, which was Summit's downfall - he only focused on the PvP and Piracy aspects, and didn't really delve into anything else, which was expected being a PvP player. Asmon has a history of playing both PvE and PvP, with a heavy leaning towards PvE gameplay, so it'd be interesting to see his take on everything in the game, as opposed to just that one focused experience.

[@RykrXky]

I dont get why he’s using GTA to rationalize P2W. I use it to argue the exact opposite. When GTA online first started on PS3 in 2013 getting money was extremely hard and grindy and there were only few super cars, so having even one actually meant something, they had value because of what you had to do to get them. My long distance cousin and I spent days and weeks to earn an Entify XF, which gave it sentimental value too and is currently the only car I’ll never sell over a decade later. Now with shark cards and modders handing us out millions, it’s normal to have garage fulls of them and they mean basically nothing because of how inflated the economy is. It takes all value and the experience of the game away from earning them.

[@edmundduke1296]

The first year of GTAO this was the case. After that it became pay to win.

[@eshamblazer]

all the haters will be playing star citizen eventually

[@slider799]

release for SC is when they declare the PU actually persistent with no more db reset and the current moves from AUEC to UEC

[@Rockyroad321]

GTA 6 is rumored to be around 1-2 billion development cost. So Star citizen clearly doesn’t have enough money for its final finish product.

[@ajschwartz3924]

The pokimane clip 8 minutes in had me dying laughing.

[@Marlax-101]

soon as he plays his stream is going to crash his server repeatedly.

[@reamoinmcdonachadh9519]

When you consider some games have a price, then there is an expansion for a set price, so now you have paid more for additional content, then there might be a 'free update' that adds in game purchasing, so now you are paying for in game items, cosmetics etc. People can easily pay over a 100 bucks or more. Now there other games that operate a sub model, on top of an initial price for the base game, then there is the in game store, then there additional content and expansions most of which will cost money, so again over the time of your involvement in playing it you have spent easily over 100 bucks. Now times that by the number of games you have ever played, the number expansions for those games and any additional content for those games that cost you money and you might be shocked and surprised by the amount of money you have spent on gaming. Do that for any other subscription, service, you have used, and again you will be surprised at how much you have spent. the only question(s) that needs answering is: Has it been worth the outlay? Have you been entertained? Have you had value for money? Knowing what you know now, would you do it all again?

[@deathlytree434]

Ive only upgraded my aurora to an aurora CL for the cargo functionality 45 dollars for this amount of game demo that is constantly adding new things its the best 45 ive ever invested into a game even when sc is bad its still given me a ton of gameplay even with missing the things that make it an actual game

[@GizziMoD]

1:14:30 LMAO!

[@IronVanguardOfficial]

Believe what you want Mike, lol.. beds Jumptown video was not scripted, my org held that sight and he was the only one who broke through with ground infantry when we were more focused on the 2 other orgs fighting us in the air. ✌️

[@saltemikereacts]

I shouldn’t have said scripted, it clearly wasn’t, but they were RPing and it was very edited

[@IronVanguardOfficial]

@@saltemikereacts oh agreed! They did a great job on those parts.

[@85Bad4ever]

Im sorry but sc is demo in my eyes,need so much polishing

[@Redpillroost3r]

Only de oni have played and got hundreds of hours of playtime and enjoyment out of. Will get more enjoyment tonight when I get home from work.

[@WXSTANG]

Bruh, if you don't know what Telix is, Y modem, or IRC, when HTML didn't exist for the plebs, you definitely shouldn't be trolling O.G.s about being online a long time.

[@krazyivan007]

I'm in the Yacht Club. They have different levels of membership to the Org. One for the 400i, one for the 600i and another for the 890J. But, you do need to own with real money, one of the three. Then they have an Admirer's level (basically very lowest entry level) for people who don't own one, but appreciate the ships.

[@saltemikereacts]

Yea that’s weird af to me

[@Paradox3713]

Im not aware of an Admirals Club. Anyone got details?