Sam Seder Debates Social Security With Guy Who Called Him ‘F-king Idiot’ On Twitter

[@L011235813]

Every time Sam does one of these debates it adds a full year to his life

[@user-yf4gx4rf8h]

I hope.

[@feistygheisty]

The government didn't predict that Sam would take 0 Ls and eat up SS benefits until he's 200.

[@justinmiller1118]

rofl

[@AWildBard]

He's going to be immortal, then. If only it were so easy to achieve immortality. Not that I could do it, I can't. haha

[@nataliaofthenightlords]

Same debating right wingers for his health is akin to Shang Tsung taking the souls of those he beats in Mortal Kombat.

[@TheGamingHarbinger]

Sam’s super power is incredible. He can make grown men get extremely emotional and unstable in minutes.

[@dasaggropop1244]

I AM NOT EMOTIOANALLY UNSTZAHBEL THE MATH!!!

[@finzoor]

i agree but the people sam engages with are the type of person that explode with rage that their pancakes didn’t come with syrup

[@bobbafett1849]

Lol, Sam was debating with a kindergartener

[@faerykat]

True. It's just like how Baraba Walters got all her guests to cry.

[@TheHonestPeanut]

I mean... I think those were already there. He just allowed them to come to the surface.

[@GlassesAndCoffeeMugs]

The problem with libertarians is that they NEVER expect to be asked specific questions about how their system works. They just expect you to accept their premise of "government bad, better without gubmint" and that's the end of the conversation. But they can't explain to you *how* society would actually function without a government.

[@Ron_DeForest]

Did you see the debate with the toaster libertarian? That was hilarious. His solution for no government is to have an unofficial office to keep track who owns what house or land so no one can just pop by and steal your shit. So he wants to dismantle the government agency that does that job just so that an agency can be created to do the job it’s already doing. That’s the solution all these libertarians have.

[@jerryhickin9551]

​@@Ron_DeForest well, yeah. They want to dismantle the current government, then institute a new government. They just won't call it government because then they'd be hypocrites.

[@clairekelliest]

@@Ron_DeForest they build societies in their head that only serve to service what they care about. Then they find out other people care about other things but they can’t quite believe that’s true, so they think the future, if it’s the ideal future they imagine, has to only serve their own niche needs. Then Sam poses questions. He reveals the conflicts they wanted to ignore and shows that it’s true, others don’t necessarily want what you want and that there’s no such thing as a society of one. Then they have a tendency to freak out. Because they’ve never been able to get along with others, not deep in their core being. And that has warped them to the point of melting down on youtube because someone asked how specific issues would be dealt with in their imaginary society that they proclaim is ideal. We keep watching the collapsing facades of these dudes’ psyches as they try and put up scaffolding as the mortar just keeps on crumbling. But goofy af.

[@gnomechomsky2524]

It's usually goes like "ok, so how would a libertarian society prevent corporations from harming people?" to which a libertarian would respond "well we could still have laws the prevent that" you mean government regulation of the free market? But then it wouldn't be a libertarian society anymore. Then they deflect and change the topic.

[@SamM-lv8hr]

@@Ron_DeForest If you press libertarians, their ideal society is always just an elaborate description of government, but without using the word "government."

[@XanDerSon88]

“LOOK AT THE NUMBERS” *Sam looks at numbers* “NO, NOT LIKE THAT”

[@cassandratq9301]

OMFG 🤦‍♀️

[@NightridewithNikki]

Nooo Sam look at my numbers (this guy)

[@John-PaulHunt-q3z]

no nephew my future is one of isolation poverty and being homeless.

[@Vil_Vandelier]

Crowder is right about one thing: avoid debating Sam at ALL COSTS

[@NathanCotrill]

Isn't that the situation where Ethan Klein tried to trap Crowder in a 2v1 debate after lying by omission since he didn't notify him that he'd be bringing Sam with him?

[@Vil_Vandelier]

@@NathanCotrill "Trap" is a bit dramatic sir. Ethan Klein runs a drama reaction channel. He's not a debater which is why he brought on a debater who shares his same feelings on current events. It wasn't 2v1. Ethan brought Sam on and said mostly nothing until Coward, I mean, Crowder started to leave the convo. It is an absolute fact that Crowder was watching Sam's stream to make sure he didn't show up because Crowder mistakenly confirmed it. So I ask you, why Crowder only debates college students and people who are obviously not good at debate? If Crowder was the galaxy-brained debater he claims to be, he would've just stayed and destroyed Sam but he ran. Cold Feet Crowder got what he deserved. He made his name debating people who weren't ready for it.

[@Sjguitarpnw]

@@Vil_Vandelier waiting on the day Seder destroys crowder and his dad can’t cancel the debate

[@colechestnut6627]

​@@Vil_Vandelier no it was an agreed upon 1 on 1 debate, that man child Ethan though he could get more views and some of sama subscribers . If it wasn't a trap it was, its sneaky and dishonest. And I've seen alot of the change my minds its not all collage students theres been plenty of adults and professors

[@natan_km]

@@colechestnut6627 regardless, if crowder was actually worth his salt he would’ve stayed in to debate Sam or went on to debate him another time. But of course the reason he doesn’t is because, being a nazi, his views are not based in facts but feelings and he knows he’d get absolutely destroyed by Sam.

[@ArchlordZer0]

I love how the guests get angry in real-time when they're exposed as idiots. Beautiful.

[@alabamaman5994]

WRONG. Chaya confronted AOC, on camera, from multiple camera angles.... and she ran away. Libs of TikTok: AOC: 🏃‍♀️

[@StoveToTheFace]

​@Alabama Man I think you watched a different video. You can't even keep your dumbass talking points in order.

[@i.quadmegistus5768]

@@alabamaman5994 You’re not even using that meme correctly.

[@metalheadedtothemax]

​@@alabamaman5994 Alabama IQ can't even watch a video correctly 😂

[@just_mike_]

​@@i.quadmegistus5768never find the fact that if a stochastic terrorist randomly approached me, I would get the hell out of there. And im not even a representative who has shit to do.

[@mrpandabites]

This caller is infuriating. I've known people like this in my life and they like to dominate every conversation, but their ideas are empty. The more worthless the ideas, the louder the shouting gets.

[@MustbeTheBassest]

What do you mean empty? The caller is saying we "just need more technology to fix all our problems" but also, "technology is the problem. There's going to be no more workers!!" And the solution is "for the government to get out of the way." 😂😂😂

[@whramijg]

Can you stop quizzing me on numbers Sam? What is this, math? I'm talking about ATHE AFUTUREAH

[@Seattle-2017]

That's all they have left is the shouting; they scream non-stop to try to drown out the common sense and reality that Sam presents.

[@roxyamused]

I found him rather funny as his blood pressure rose. Like isn't there a quote about once you lose your temper you lose the fight?

[@profanepersonality]

​@CaptBeardie , and they always use words they don't know the definition of, just because they think it makes them look smart to use a word with more letters. 😂😂😂

[@MourningCoffeeMusic]

Now I see why Crowder had cold feet. Sam literally dismantles not just the ideology of the person he’s debating, but the way they think generally. That’s dangerous.

[@janetmartin988]

He did what? To who? Seriously. I am 👂 listening

[@michaellavizzo3539]

@@janetmartin988I mean… did you literally not watch this video at all? Or is it a comprehension difficulty you’re having?

[@IntrusiveThought7]

​@@michaellavizzo3539😂😂😂 he's probably the caller or one of his friends from that podcast he was promoting. Imagine. 😂😂😂

[@khbgkh]

@@janetmartin988nobody who says what you just said is either serious or listening

[@lindakelley2676]

I'd love to see politicians living on $800 a month and $40 a week for food. I think this caller is jealous and resents anyone who isn't working, whether they're old or disabled or not. People pay into social security. If they think it's a "grift" people use, it sure isn't much of a grift to live on 80% below poverty level as billionaires don't pay taxes. The inequality of wealth isn't coming from social programs of the government or reason the economy crashes. He seems to think poor financial planning on people's parts is the problem. Few people anticipate disability or catastrophic illness, other countries are way ahead of us with healthcare and housing, we can do it. Greed on the part of the minority who have the wealth seems to be the barrier.

[@jaronfeld123]

Hundreds of debates later, not a single Libertarian has ever beat Sam. Not one! Hilarious. This is why I watch this show

[@Jeremy-hx7zj]

It's worse than that, not a single libertarian has managed to walk away with a shred of dignity. They ALL look like unhinged, severely stupid freaks after like, 20 minutes of talking to him.

[@gOaTcrackalac88]

And they just keep coming on to showcase how bad their arguments are. It's very entertaining.

[@vgaportauthority9932]

@@gOaTcrackalac88 They're just too confident. Once we stopped bullying dumb people because that was no longer PC, all these dummies grew extremely confident.. The dark side of no bullying..

[@jackc3205]

Libertarianism is just pure utopian thinking, which is why no one can explain how it would work.

[@jaronfeld123]

@@jackc3205 Right, he thinks there’s gonna be a healthcare robot like Baymax… except it’ll apparently be free or something??? 😂😂😂

[@ComradeCatpurrnicus]

"There aren't enough workers!" I wonder how he feels about immigration...

[@carolyntalbot947]

Did you see Emma's little smile when he said that? I was howling 😅

[@TheNewblade1]

Net drain on society

[@ComradeCatpurrnicus]

​@@TheNewblade1 "Net drain"? Say that to all the immigrants that built this country you clown.

[@Disaletteritis]

Mass immigration has it's problems...of course leftists don't see this.

[@djdedan]

Who needs immigrants when you can put children to work for even cheaper…

[@theenlightenedcentrist6106]

In the first 15 minutes I learned more about social security than the past 20 years of my life, this dude was straight up drowning in slow motion it was like watching a snuff film

[@gelatinskeleton8745]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! Brilliant.

[@alexkerr5007]

Should come with a warning cus GD!

[@lukelyon1781]

It was certainly pornographic I'll say that much lol

[@amberwilliams8240]

​@@lukelyon1781 I'm aroused lol

[@lukelyon1781]

@@amberwilliams8240 join the club sis lol

[@poorscousert]

My guy switched from “it’s all about the math” to “stop talking to me about the math” so quickly.

[@rbustamante86]

It's because it's not fair. Anyone can win a debate when you have the data and numbers to back up your claims. That's cheating!....lol

[@marketingIdeaslol]

Dude went from “I s about the math” to “its about the people duuuude”

[@SamanthaIreneYTube]

“Shut up about the sun!”

[@cassandratq9301]

Lightening speed.

[@tylerhackner9731]

Sam debates are always gold

[@alabamaman5994]

WRONG. Chaya confronted AOC, on camera, from multiple camera angles.... and she ran away. Libs of TikTok: AOC: 🏃‍♀️

[@clairekelliest]

@@alabamaman5994 People run away from disasters all the time.

[@seanpatrick1243]

Alabama is a paid fake troll account.

[@nananou1687]

@@alabamaman5994 Cant run away if you were never there.

[@jackeagleeye3453]

​@@alabamaman5994 wrong video dork lol

[@jstew512]

It's just wild AF that a person can call someone a "F****** Idiot" and be upset at you for explaining why you're not, even while not returning the insults.

[@Disaletteritis]

He didnt explain much to be honest. Seniors are working now to maintain a decent life...imagine 30 years from now.

[@chainhold]

@@cengle_s screwed themselves too when they end up in homes and die alone

[@Disaletteritis]

@@cengle_s that's the most entitled comment I have seen in a while...specially when your generation does not seem to have the traits to achieve great things...not to mention mistakes, which every generation makes...

[@joeymac4302]

@@Disaletteritis He explained that the tables show we will be just fine, with very minor tweaks. We will actually be relatively fine with no tweaks at all. It will just be a minor reduction. Will it impoverish people who do are already at risk? Well, most conservatives don't care if Grandma eats catfood. Those of us who do want her to get a bit of dignity think raising or eliminating the cap on SS taxation is a viable solution. Did you not get that from his discussion? Will raising or eliminating the cap not fix the issue? Did you do the math and find it problematic? Make sure to do your homework.

[@coleverret2269]

@@Disaletteritis we found the caller lol

[@GSP-76]

He cries about automation taking jobs but then says technology will save people?

[@52flyingbicycles]

THATS WHAT I SAID

[@stylis666]

Hypocrites are hypocrites. You live in a culture that values dishonesty and pretending to care about important things while acting in the exact oppoistie manner.

[@cloudshad0ws]

It's because libertarian "ideology" is vacuous and empty

[@fuhdawin510]

Beautiful isn’t it? These people just expose themselves.

[@majuli8420]

Also, the genius doesn't realize it is automation that drives increases in productivity. Has forever. They said the same garbage when the assembly line was introduced. These guys are just a joke.

[@tiptoeurchin]

I love how Sam just calmly led this guy into a dark room and then shut the door behind them. Dude got uncomfortable real quick.

[@PaulGrinderQueer69]

All this dude does is strawman and poison the well

[@jorikv.6497]

Well, thats your opinion. Dude made a couple of good points but you have to be willing to listen first.

[@AnarchoPunkChad]

​@@jorikv.6497 No, he objectively got bodied.

[@cguevara671]

Caller: “you’re asking me to look into the future and I can’t predict that” Also caller: “I’m finding solutions for the FUTURE, DUDE!!!!”

[@TheLosboogie1973]

He’s an Olympian at mental gymnastics! 🥇🤸🏻‍♂️

[@tab1907]

The caller is full of himself 😂

[@rosehill9537]

Pretzel thinking🥨

[@ShinmaWa1]

Also: "You're asking me to look into the future and I can't predict that, but the whole reason why I'm here is because I'm predicting that SS will become insolvent in the future!"

[@charleybarley7148]

Moron with podcast believes he will save future retirees. Lmao.

[@jonm7888]

That PBD podcast really got the Libertarians stirred up. 😅

[@LinkRocks]

It got Libertarians and all other conservatives riled up. Sam is awesome.

[@carolyntalbot947]

It sure did! I was looking at their channel's comments and saw a lot of "this [Sedar] guy is not what I was expecting, good conversation" and I knew then some seeds were planted. Days later they're absolutely malding at the fallout and failure to get the promised pwnage.

[@jonm7888]

​@Carolyn Talbot They're sending their best to take down Sam. First Rogan, then Pool then this guy.

[@christianjames92]

@@jonm7888 If those guys are the best then they're in deep trouble.

[@trickstergod9179]

We’re at the beginning of a new “Sam Seder eviscerates libertarians one by one” era, and I’m so here for it.

[@oneillbilder]

Am 58 retiring next year but the thought of retirement gives me weakness. My apologies to everyone who have retired and filing social security during this time after putting in all those years of work just to lose everything to a problem you never imagined to happen. It’s so difficult for people who are retired and have no savings or loved ones to fall back on.

[@Syndiewndell]

True, It has never been easier to understand how to build your money after retirement than it is right now with the inflation, when you may study and experience a completely variegated market passively by employing a successful portfolio-advisor. The impacts of the U.S. dollar's gain or fall on investments, in my opinion, are complex.

[@DallisonScramosin]

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[@EllenAbrex]

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[@DallisonScramosin]

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[@EllenAbrex]

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[@The_Gentleman_Blacksmith]

Caller: "IT'S ALL ABOUT THE NUMBERS!!!" Also caller: "WHY ARE YOU FOCUSING ON THE NUMBERS!?!?!"

[@thecanmanification]

This is exactly why conservatives believe in the fallacy that their side cares more about facts than “the left”. They just listen to propaganda from their favourite political commentator who tells them “those stupid liberals can’t do the math”

[@ElectricBuckeye]

TECHNOLOGY!!!!!!!!

[@John-jd7mm]

@@ElectricBuckeye And then he denigrates automation (which is technology!)

[@ElectricBuckeye]

@@John-PaulHunt-rv5od woah...are you Max Payne?

[@ElectricBuckeye]

@@John-PaulHunt-rv5od doubtful, my worst nightmare was the one where I was driving my truck and the lights kept getting more and more dim and it was harder to turn the steering wheel and kept going slower and slower, eventually rolling off the side of the highway and falling into a bottomless pit. That one was pretty bad.

[@LukeVenables]

That guy's most honest statement was, "I wasn't expecting to get on air."

[@empanada223]

Shows how prepared he was lmao!

[@lavellelee5734]

😂😂 I was shocked

[@heartrem2]

SAM SACRIFICED THIS MAN LIVE ON THE AIR.💀💀💀

[@Nickeltoe77]

“Why are you quizzing me on numbers man” after saying it’s a math problem. 😂 Guy is in way over his head

[@christopherhardy8937]

You can't say it's about math and numbers then refuse to debate them

[@joiscara7191]

It was absolutely bonkers, much like that Perry guy on deeds and properties debate.

[@stylis666]

Well, the important thing to take away from that is that it wasn't about the numbers. He showed that it wasn't over and over and over and over. At what point would you accept that it was just an excuse he gives people to accept his baseless claims? His peers don't care about the numbers so they don't check it, so it's a safe manipulation tactic to use to get people to not question him because otherwise he can ask them about the numbers they don't have nor care about. So to prevent that from happening, they just let him preach about the technology and the future and if they find him sympathetic, they'll trust that he's 100% correct on everything and believe what he says and even base future decisions on that (false) information and deny actual data and news reports, etc. This is how shit works and has worked for thousands of years and how extreme right wing rhetoric is more normalized than integrity and critical thinking are and integrity and critical thinking are simply discouraged in public discourse and fallacious reasoning is encouraged and defended, even by people who claim to be "moderates" or "center", and not just in the US but all around the world, in all countries, without exception. People rather go with their gut than think and check things. People feel personally dismissed when their argument is. As a species we're severely mentally disabled by this shared disorder of glorified ignorance and we need a lot of therapy to overcome it, which is also discouraged and painted as weak. I would maybe wonder why that is if I didn't already answer that question.

[@korbendallas7181]

Not here for “the fuckin numbers” dude LMAO!

[@korbendallas7181]

Or whatever dumb shit he said lol

[@rellyj]

He couldn't debate them (the numbers) because he didn't read social securities reports. He wasn't talking numbers he was talking feelings

[@antlerbraum2881]

Goddamn is Sam good at putting these people in a place and grilling them.

[@duncanblue124]

And he doesn't need to curse like a Neanderthal to make his point. It just makes you sound unintelligent

[@MichaelAronson]

​@@duncanblue124 I'm okay with cursing. I agree that Sam doesn't need to, but I also wouldn't mind if he did.

[@templarw20]

@@duncanblue124 He curses at some points, but only when the person is truly detached from reality.

[@thatindiandude4602]

​@@MichaelAronsonalso, the libertarians aren't sending their best.

[@doodleridoo9493]

I mean…sam did work in bob’s burgers lol

[@felicityc]

average libertarian that took finances without taking math too

[@greycoloris7665]

This way of putting it will be with me for the rest of my days, thank you for your service 🤣

[@52flyingbicycles]

Broooo technology is going to fire all of us broooo but it’s ok because technology will make everything cheaper broooo ignore that it only does that for consumer goods with elastic demand brooo and technology will only make things cheaper if the government gets out of the way brooo

[@LD-tn6ff]

yaa....its not like finance and Econ students take extensive math and stats coursework or anything?

[@nataliaofthenightlords]

​@@LD-tn6ffyou can take econ courses and have weak math skills.

[@nosender2399]

​@@LD-tn6ff What does it mean when you barely pass any of those classes? What was the line when we all learned Bush W's academic - C's get degrees?

[@Ecsa0014]

It boggles my mind that this caller was completely unable to realize that a large contributor to the extended life span for those on social security was almost certainly the fact that they had more financial security because of the social security benefits they are receiving, which is a GOOD thing. I couldn't imagine being this selfish and brainwashed.

[@beepbeepboop931]

Yeah, I was so confused. People living longer is a bad thing??

[@dirtbagleftist5412]

It's like debating a flat earther. This guy is a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect

[@52flyingbicycles]

He literally doesn’t understand how technology works on an economic scale despite owning a technology firm. Actually, that checks out lol

[@dirtbagleftist5412]

@@52flyingbicycles and his confidence is off the chart

[@michaelmoore7975]

Yup. But y'know...I gotta admit Ayman almost convinced me. Almost. Then he opened his mouth and spoke.

[@billyconnelly3568]

A lot of libertarians are reasonably smart but often their intelligence is narrowly mathematical. They mistake their formulas for the world itself.

[@briansager3744]

Dude literally watched like 4 Daily Wire TikToks and thought he understood SS 😂

[@theodoredahl1076]

I remember my dad telling my uncle in 1979 that Social Security wouldn't be around when he retired. He died before he could retire, but here we are, Social Security is still around.

[@usernameryan5982]

And 12.4% of your dad’s wages throughout his whole life are completely gone with no benefit to him while he was alive or to his family (unless your mom got some survivors benefits). I understand that people believe criticizing the structure of social security is basically political heresy but if your dad was a modest income earner, that 12.4% is a brutal tax on his income. How is it fair to say a program that taxes so much of a working persons income will keep them out of poverty when it makes it significantly more difficult to save to invest, buy a house, pay for transportation? I would honestly like to know someone’s thoughts on this. I understand the 12.4% is split between employee and employer but that’s not true if you’re self employed. Also, by attaching 6.2% to the company based on an employees wages rather than just their total profits, it just incentivizes them to lower their wages by 6.2% percent of something close to it. To me, the way social security is taxed is entirely messed up based on its original purposes and it’s gone up over 12X the original tax rate since implemented by FDR as I’m aware. If one would like to treat it as a redistribution program, that’s fine but it shouldn’t be attached to a person wages, it should be a tax on the country’s total productivity similar to UBI.

[@Robbay363]

It's wild how long people have been making these arguments. Yet it continues to exist and continues to be wildly popular.

[@rossington1680]

I’m sorry you live in a society that takes care, not enough in my mind, of older people….. I’m not going to have kids. It sucks that I have to pay to educate kids that are not mine….. The world needs less selfish people.

[@rainydaze1313]

@usernameryan I agree retirement should be universal, but we can’t even get universal healthcare passed, universal retirement isn’t going to either. until those can actually get passed we should keep social security safe.

[@bereal6590]

The REASON THOSE RUMOURS GET SPREAD, is because the republicans do NOT want to,pay for sickness unemployment or retirement. They try to get people to believe it so they can stop paying it. Be warned, it's a tried and trusted tactic to take money and rights from people

[@SFolkes97]

Thank you Sam. I'm 70. Social Security keeps me out of poverty even though I have a small public employee retirement pension, some savings, and an IRA. I paid into Social Security for 51 years, while watching retirees cruise around in their RV's and raise hell anytime it was threatened in any way. I didn't mind paying into it. I figured my day would eventually come. It did. And of course, Republicans now want to kill/cripple it, SCREAM about it, as they always have. My IRA, BTW, can be taxed at between 25% and 50 %, when I reach an older age, if I don't withdraw a specified amount. Taxed at 25%. Think about that. When you are older and need money the most, you could take a 25% tax hit. Or higher. Now think if that was your only savings. Let's say you had $500K or a million. 25% of that. I worked full time past my 62 age where I could begin taking Social Security. I'd say at least half of my coworkers, friends and classmates never made it to that age. Or just barely beyond it. I resisted taking Social Security but when Trump got elected, and there was a full GOP Congress, I panicked and started taking it. (I know, Trump says don't touch Social Security now. I don't trust him.) So I started taking benefits while still working. One year cost me $4000 and another almost $6000 in money I returned to Social Security. Because I made too much money - like $27 to $28K a year. I knew it was coming and just saved the money, and therefore could pay it back. Make no mistake, the system IS rigged against low income and Working Class people. They can hit me with 25% tax penalties and take X1000 dollars of my income, but God help you if you want to raise the $160,200 cap, or make corporations pay, or institute Warren's wealth tax.

[@Dan16673]

Like all gov programs it turns into a pile of sh7t

[@PokeNachos]

Congress will inevitably raise the carrot higher and away from the next generation and beyond.

[@FatManDoubleZero]

I'm 70 myself. My "company retirement" is nearly nonexistent. I have no car payments and my house mortgage is "paid off." Without SS I would be out on the street living in a cardboard box. The GOP wants to "steal" from me what little I have and this makes me HATE THEM WITH A PASSION. How can so many rich politicians be SO SELFISH AND GREEDY AND COMPLETELY THOUGHTLESS? Worse yet, how can "retirees" continue to support the LOATHSOME, CORRUPT PARTY OF RONALD REAGAN????

[@Dan16673]

@@FatManDoubleZero sounds like you planned poorly

[@SFolkes97]

@@FatManDoubleZero Amen Brother! I hear you.

[@parose1457]

Your guest embodied the "Dunning Krueger" effect Having gained a small amount of knowledge about a complex subject he has huge confidence in his simplistic understanding. Only idiots could disagree with him. The fascinating phenomenon is that hubris often seems more convincing than actual knowledge and expertise. His fans are likely celebrating his triumph of intellect on your show.

[@John-jd7mm]

exactly!

[@blakeog2034]

That’s destiny in a nutshell too lmao

[@LJohnson88]

I just know in my heart that Emma’s condescending laugh kills these guys and I love every second of it

[@craigash189]

i love her disposition lol

[@VampageRampage]

Because they’re trying to use the negative attention to find more and then spin the energy into advertising to garner a business model, and no one but a good comedian can make a business by being laughed at on air all the time.

[@frromajr]

I used to but i started noticing alot of Channels doing this. And its starting to make me cringe like the Tucker Carlson laugh. I unsubscribed to David Pakman, Dr. Ritchie, and Ring of Fire for that reason.

[@garrettkuracka2277]

But it only lands when she’s not actively humiliating her self saying stupid shit like “charGPT is glorified autocorrect” 😂 caller could’ve torn her to shreds on that one, just flat out embarrassing

[@piamogollonartist]

​@@noneya313yeah she's an idiot for trying to diminish the power of chatgpt. Nobody's calling it sentient as far as I can tell but there is no denying that it has and is going to make a lot of jobs obsolete. Privileged talking heads like this may never have to worry about that but I've already seen it affect my work.

[@stefanlvkc7986]

This guy just loses his mind 10 minutes in. Soooooooo funny to watch him just have a massive break down after some pushback. Talked all big on Twitter and then melts down in an actual convo. Did this guy seriously argue to have it so people just personally can invest instead of pay into social security and then go on to argue that in the future there will be no workers and everything is automated? If there are no workers then how in the punch drunk love of f#$% are peoples' investments supposed to grow until they retire and beyond? His example is f#$%ing ChatGPT? LOL

[@GSP-76]

Were you expecting any better?

[@tenkenroo]

Typical libertarian response is to just shout at people cause god forbid they are wrong

[@spockola]

Average libertarian reaction imo. They're all about theory and aggressively asserting their talking points but when you show them facts they just scream at you and claim you're "not listening to me," which is true but only because they're not worth hearing.

[@LinkRocks]

He came in with one talking point but Sam wanted to know how knowledgeable he is on the SS system and he crumbled.

[@IncognitoSprax]

That’s how most people are. Talk big when safe then breakdown when confronted

[@IMatchoNation]

Sam: "Here's why everything you're saying is wrong." Caller: "DUDE!"

[@AlexJanicki]

"Why are you quizzing me on things I don't have the answer to!"

[@cosmosofinfinity]

"DUDE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE! I'M TALKING ABOUT TECHNOLOGY, DUDE!"

[@nosuchthing8]

It was PAINFUL to see the dude eviscerated. Good job sam. He didnt even prepare.

[@cassandratq9301]

If they're from Twitter, they never prepare.

[@enriquesanchez9016]

That caller is disgusting. The way he got so angry is really revealing what kind of person he is.

[@Squatch_11]

He at the very least needs to step away from the keyboard and go outside and get some fresh air. Either that, or some serious therapy....

[@MTtheClipp]

Clear he was embarrassed inside that he was underprepared

[@erisgh0sted961]

Alot of people don't care about facts. They care about perception of right.

[@whispersmith]

These people have a mucus plug in their head bottling in their preconceived notions, and if you poke it they start yelling

[@iangascoigne8231]

It’s what they do.

[@yoked1234]

It’s amazing how someone that knows so little pretends like we’re all idiots. Like at the very least you’d think he’d have done his homework

[@talyahr3302]

Right? It's like he didn't prepare at all. Just thought he could actually wing it off of talking points 😂

[@jeffc5974]

I'd bet he is just repeating what he's heard others say.

[@TiffanyStarrxxx]

Dunning Kruger effect in...well effect. Sam sure knows how to find them.

[@seivaDsugnA]

I'm an expert on the Dunning-Kruger effect. Does it correlate with narcissistic PD? I'm asking for a friend.@@TiffanyStarrxxx

[@lessimcdowell9897]

He doesn’t sound bright, but in all honesty, sam is wrong on this one for one simple reason: the corporations have already taken away our public healthcare, something no other nation has done on earth, what the hell is stopping them from taking away retirement? Nothing. We need to own the means of production / organize worker cooperatives

[@hugoschkiglitz]

The guy was afraid of Sam’s ideas the whole call. His solution is to drown out whatever Sam had to say by screaming loud and repeating the same thing. It’s clear he’s actually the idiot but he’s afraid that it’ll show 😂

[@thefruch7588]

💯 dude was incredibly insecure

[@samuelbekele3601]

"Big gobment bad, small gobment gud" Caveman thinking

[@Seattle-2017]

The caller came in so confident, and Sam put him into a fit of rage within minutes. The best part was 11:40 "You keep talking about numbers, and dollar figures!" Uh, well....

[@Bramble451]

I like how Sam handles it. If someone starts to try to just talk over him fast, loud, and non-stop, Sam just keeps talking until the other person shuts up.

[@MandalaOfThe7]

Sam was destroying his grift. Ayman knows if he is defeated on this show and made to look stupid to his own followers, that he's gonna lose money. He just puts his fingers in his ears and yells "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LAAAAA"

[@etiennepagex1756]

Damn sam really is the debate terminator

[@wendwllhickey6426]

If you worked 40 yrs and paid in 100 or more a week the I want my money ,they say there running low on funds,then quite taking money out of ssi to pay for other stuff in government which should be staying in ssi not lend it to other parts so don't complain it is low when you use it for other things

[@panbaiye]

Caller gets Fact’d by Sam on Social Security 2:40 at least 30% would… 3:41 eliminates risk of poverty of all but 9% 4:20 diminishes pressure on people’s kids 5:37 Caller defines the problem with life expectancy 6:19 problem attempt #2 6:56 What should we expect from SS according to caller 9:03 Caller demonstrates they don’t fully understand the SS tables, Sam won’t take it, caller changes subject to future 11:32 the caller is talking about technology man 12:52 The caller’s big contribution 14:19 Sam’s Social Security Solution 15:14 Sam Explains increase of productivity 19:08 Sam wants to get down to why he was called an effing idiot 20:22 Caller shares their solution to social security 23:03 Call ends 23:21 The libertarian playbook is referenced and broken down 25:20 Advice to the next debater Unscathed Sam, leaves caller alive, barely

[@coleverret2269]

22:22 absolute murder 😮😮😮 😂😂😂

[@panbaiye]

​@@coleverret2269 it was brutal 😬 I hope the caller changes their tune after debate reflection

[@lazysundayz]

I'm talking about the future bro

[@Wilterweight]

holy shit well done

[@utubepunk]

@@lazysundayz THE FUTURE DUDE.

[@chrispannygolf1601]

A Seder master class

[@arrsequoia4087]

When a baby cries, a Republican whines.

[@stylis666]

Let's not forget that there were suggestions to help that baby and republicans frustrated it until a compromise was reached that did exactly what the republicans want: not work. And now it doesn't work, so the republican rightfully whines that it doesn't work. Republicans are such nice people.

[@rickypen]

Unless it yet anywhere close to being a baby and is instead a lump of cells with the genetics of a wart, that costs them nothing to protest, yet directly reaches into the lives of others. Then they care deeeeply. I want to find a way to link abortion rights to gun rights...

[@tmcd5049]

Repukes don't even need the stimulus of the baby crying: all they need is a Democratic president, and then it's constant whining on any subject, relevant or not!

[@Spencerwalker21]

​@@tmcd5049no just hunters hog 😂

[@RailAtsamara]

"it's simply a math question" *gets mad at math questions*

[@denglish5275]

There's a real irony to the guys saying to sam "you can yell and complain" when he's the one yelling and complaining through the whole call.

[@NoNameT2T4]

That’s the Trump defense, similar to the Chewbacca defense. Accuse your opponent of the things you’re guilty of to put them on the back foot. All offense (and accusations) and no logic or proof.

[@bartholomewjackson6534]

Omg I’m having flashbacks to growing up in a conservative family. Just yelling but saying nothing intelligent. Love you Sam

[@fayeb.5855]

My father was a conservative, everyone should make it on their own. Of course he took his Medicare and Social Security benefits in retirement. 😂

[@LibertarianRF]

Actually that is most liberals as well, Notice how often Democrats just make fun of someone instead of arguing the logical points. The modern liberal deems themselves to be smarter and 'better' than others. Which makes sense as the Democrats are the party of slavery. You cannot enslave someone unless you think you are better than them.

[@Rationalreason777]

Your father paid into both those programs his entire life, so what is inconsistent? He's a conservative who believes in accountability etc and thinks people should bootstrap themselves. I'm left leaning on many issues btw I'm just wondering what you meant in your post because it's pretty incoherent the way you wrote it.

[@bartholomewjackson6534]

Everyone pays into the system bozo. My dad was an unemployed drunk but since he served he enjoyed welfare while bitching about anyone else getting help.

[@lanie9494]

That’s the business model of Fox News, isn’t it?

[@Razoredge581]

"Dude why are you quizzing me on fucking numbers man?" "Because you keep talking about math." Truly amazing, keep it up MR

[@carolyntalbot947]

These put me in such a good mood, especially when the guy is this smug. Any Libertarian who thinks he's going to school Sam must be out of his mind.

[@joiscara7191]

@@carolyntalbot947Sam using Libertarians as a mop is always a treat. 🤣

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

@@carolyntalbot947 Once upon a time when I was younger and dumber about 10 years ago... I often wondered if one of these chodes WOULD actually be smart enough and reasonable enough to some how make Sam look stupid or even convince Sam to drop his own values but uhhh... No... Just no... Hasn't happened yet. And it wont ever happen lol.

[@Phlakaton88]

made me laugh out loud real nice.

[@Mazarbull420]

That dude calling Sam "a f--cking idiot" was a perfect example of projection.

[@morninglift1253]

I hate when people use that word indiscriminately. The guy wasn't projecting. The guy simply has a false sense of intelligence. The guy believes he's smarter than he is.

[@Mazarbull420]

@@morninglift1253 Maybe don't take everything so personally. Your sensitivity toward that term doesn't change the fact that it was exactly that. The caller is a moron, and probably a single digit MAGAt. So he projects his own ignorance on to others to make himself feel better. If you feel everyone around you is stupid, then you will start to see yourself as the one who knows all. You don't need to like it, but the fact is, it is him projecting. Maybe it's over used, but in this instance its valid, and being hurt by it won't change that fact.

[@mmarsh1972]

@@morninglift1253 Which is in turn a form of projection. He is assuming Sam is less intelligent than he is, when in fact it is the opposite.

[@Asrahn]

@@morninglift1253 Classic Dunning-Kruger case.

[@your_royal_highness]

Dumb people don’t know it. Talk loud, deflect, change your argument, yada yada so you can WIN!

[@samjazzywriter124715]

When I was first taught about 401Ks, it was supposed to be part of a triangle of retirement. One side the 401K, the second was the pension from work, and the third was social security. Then companies figured out that "matching contributions " was cheaper for them. They put a limit on matching, got rid of pensions, and can decide not to match whenever they want.

[@eljoel89]

Yep. My company's 401k only matches a percentage of what I put in, not a percentage of my salary. Eight years later I find out there isn't nearly enough to retire so I have to double my contribution.

[@offthefront7537]

Do you realize that the person who proposed 401k laws is now,saying it was a mistake. The common man is not capable of making long term financial decisions.

[@saltyc]

"I'm talking about technology dude." -Guy who doesn't do the math.

[@52flyingbicycles]

Technology will not solve social security LMAO

[@Villani_AV]

Brings up Healthcare costs, ignores Medicare

[@lazysundayz]

Don't need to do the math fool chatgpt will do it for me automation !!

[@stylis666]

@@52flyingbicycles He doesn't want social security solved. He wanted to propose a solution that will work for him and he doesn't care one bit about anyone else -- typical republican. Have a problem, work harder. Can't work harder, be poor and shut up.

[@majuli8420]

In essence, it's magical thinking. "Technology" instead of paying your fair share.

[@ieatpaste8360]

"This ain't a quiz dude. I want to talk about solutions for the future." "You dont understand the problem" Thank you so much for actually debating these clowns for us to hear.

[@ArchlordZer0]

I died when Sam "PAUSED" the guy talking in real-time. LMAO.

[@GSP-76]

​@@adamfitz5183 Well when the caller doesn't know how to be respectful and let Sam make his points, he deserves to get muted. Sam should have muted him much more than he did.

[@chriszapatier]

I've never seen someone lose a debate this badly. I wouldn't have thought it possible. If I were Ayman, I would commit Seppuku.

[@erikmcconnon2155]

My favorite is when a caller says something dumb and Emma starts giggling and looking around the room because she knows they fell into a Sam trap

[@Franklin-fb9xp]

Christ I got a headache from that guy screaming over Sam and not knowing what he's talking about. 😢

[@freedomofmusic2112]

Caller: "It's a math equation, you dumb*ss!" Sam: "Ok let's talk about the numbers." Caller: "Why are you asking me about numbers?!?!?" Everyone listening: 😂😂😂

[@thetruthbetold86]

Wow that's amazing. Good one man. Really 😂

[@maxm7399]

Real math isn't about numbers

[@TheLosboogie1973]

Listening in made me cringe for dude. Jeezus…

[@BunnLilah]

Have any of these callers actually argued in good faith? Sam has so much patience with these people. The moment he said his weird future predictions were valid but yours based on data were invalid because (???), I would have been like "okay we're done".

[@SourEggz]

A lot of times Sam gives his opponents the encouragement to dig their own graves and he takes great enjoyment in it. “You focus on negativity while I focus on how MY medical device will solve this social-whatever-security-thing! How? I don’t know.” 😂😂😂

[@HoopityHoop17]

The dude was shrieking and hysterical but probably came away thinking he won the debate.

[@russellstevens9927]

You ever debated with a Trump Supporter or a Conservative in real life or online? They always feel like they won. Even when it is obvious to everyone they lost, they will find something to cling to. Even if it's a random word you got wrong, that had nothing to do with anything relevant, they will focus on the fact that you misspoke and said this word instead of that word, and pretend like they won off of that. 😂

[@billyconnelly3568]

@@russellstevens9927 The person engaged in the debate may not come to some new some insight but that doesn't mean that some of the people watching the debate aren't swayed. There are a LOT of *former* libertarians out there.

[@dckpunk6318]

His Twitter is full of cope and "pissed his pants rent free.jpg"

[@TechGroupF430i]

I have high blood pressure, and the caller made me look cool as a cucumber... like a calm, reasonable person.

[@hadronoftheseus8829]

No, he knows he got rolled and smoked. I promise you he knows.

[@ChrisFotosMusic]

right: the left won't debate us sam: you called me an idiot on Twitter and will now get a half hour segment on my show with 1million subs

[@dennislaffey]

I love this guy's magical thinking. "Automation" and "technology" will cause the problem but then magically solve the problem if we just cut taxes and let rich people do what they want.

[@John-jd7mm]

Thing is that tax cuts have never 'created' any jobs. Jobs are created by consumer demand, not by giving tax cuts to already- rich people!

[@tailwaggindragon]

I know right -he's talking that technology will make the work force obsolete -yet wants everybody to follow his technology that will "make life easier" Wants to solve the problems of the future but doesn't want to understand the history of the problem and what happened when this done or that was done in the past. lol

[@-davidolivares]

He’s pulling a Steve Martin, how you become a millionaire, first, get a million dollars… through cutting taxes for millionaires. Trickle down has not worked for anyone but the rich.

[@haveagreatday9865]

That went from “look at the numbers!” To ✨magic machine✨ really quickly

[@masterofmashup1737]

Sam does it again 😂😂😂😂They all think they're going to own Sam until Sam smacks them down with the facts.

[@Disaletteritis]

Raising the cap is a fact? Wishful thinking!

[@southbayjay2540]

Every time, they come in all smug, then they get mad or lose their energy like one minute in

[@billyconnelly3568]

It isn't just facts. It's about framing the debate.

[@stylis666]

@@billyconnelly3568 And he frames the debate as if it's about facts for him, which he shows it isn't but he hypocritically says it is anyway. So Sam asks about the facts he bases his claims on and he gets angry that he's asked to do that because he showed he doesn't want to and he never cared about the facts. So it IS all about the facts because Sam likes it when people base important decisions on facts and I think everyone should and that pretty much all of society just pretends to do it to get people off of their backs, until they meet someone who DOES have integrity and values it. Republicans have nothing but excuses and it's mostly excuses to shut other people down, not do do something constructive. So on one side you have people who care about what is demonstrably true and on the other hand you have theists and republicans and "moderates" and "centrists" who pretend to care about facts when it's convenient and then frustrate the conversation to stop people from thinking critically and showing integrity and encouraging others to do so as well. But by all means, tell me how you think the conversation was framed by either party and how that wasn't about the facts, because the way I saw it, the framing was about one party caring about the facts and the other party wanted Sam to accept to not let facts get in the way of making decisions based on hormonal influences on their brain and body.

[@Disaletteritis]

@@billyconnelly3568 that's Sam's super power. He frames the debate and does it in a way that it looks like he is winning a debate when most times he isn't. Same thing happened in the PBD show. He wasn't as snappy as he is on the MR...probably thinking he will be called up again...the only one winning in that scenario is Sam. After the PBD show he had at least a 200k jump in subscribers. A Rogan appearance might double Sam's subscribers...

[@Ryman158]

"Nobody predicted covid" um, 100% epidemiologist knew another pandemic was coming

[@zach-rac]

This was the comment I was looking for! ~My exact first though when he said that was 'woah! nonono, many people ABSOLUTELY knew that covid was coming!'

[@pugachevskobra5636]

Yep. They even warned that climate change will be a major factor in pandemics going forward, whether it's due to rising sea levels displacing people into wild animal habitats thereby increasing incidences of zoonotic transmission, or creating biomes where certain disease bearing species can flourish, like mosquitoes. They've been sounding the alarm for quite some time now.

[@HKim0072]

lol, World War Z was basically a pandemic book.

[@joeymac4302]

Sam just made my day. I can believe that his actual love language *is* do your homework.

[@russellfrancis813]

This guy thinks rich people shouldn't have to contribute very much back to the society that enabled them to become wealthy. Ride the backs of the workers to the top, then leave them for broke in old age instead of paying into SS so they can make sure everyone has a floor to stand on.

[@kcolonelx6181]

Libertarian says, "If everyone would just do everything that I tell them to do, everything would be so much better."

[@itsROMPERS...]

"... For ME."

[@empanada223]

So much for "personal, individual freedoms"!

[@stylis666]

@@itsROMPERS... And it's ALL based on the maths! What maths? It's all about technology; I'm talking about the future!

[@impatientboi]

Watching Sam spank crypto bros and libertarians has become a kink for me

[@Anna-vl8qc]

A perversion you mean.

[@joiscara7191]

He’s so well structured, it’s awesome to witness a hothead meltdown.

[@liamsloan5410]

Caleb maupin? That you?

[@xhosebx]

😂

[@oo0O08]

The thing with these guys is that they're not worried that social security will become insolvent, they WANT it to be insolvent. They want it wiped out as a program.

[@NoNameT2T4]

Bingo!! That’s the truth. They want management and ownership to have all the power. They want workers and retirees to have no power and beg for table scraps. They want us to be subservient serfs.

[@milesblue638]

Exactly. They argue in bad faith.

[@watamatafoyu]

They want it privatized. They want everything privatized. They want seniors to suffer if they didn't end up well-off financially (for whatever reason).

[@wraynephew6838]

@@watamatafoyu their lives and their money is more important to them then anything else. What they fail to realize is that the future is unknown and many things can happen where they themselves are disabled and now need the same social safety net for their own survival. The same social safety nets they now want to remove.

[@moon_wobble7782]

Privatizing ss would be a huge mistake. Allowing average people to invest their retirement money wisely, would be a disaster. Already most don’t save enough and very few understand risk and investing.

[@daryl9915]

Wild how asking for clarification makes the guy so angry

[@christianjames92]

What makes Sam so good at this is that he's well read on the material and he lets them talk and they sink themselves once he asks them logical questions regarding their position. He does this with ancaps and it's really fucking brilliant. I wouldn't have the patience to debate an idiot on twitter but he has a way of debating these dudes and just exposing how full of shit they really are.

[@wethepeople2023]

He’s lost debates to libertarians

[@marcsimard2723]

@@wethepeople2023 well then that changes EVERYTHING!!!!

[@Runthemjewels]

@@wethepeople2023 been watching majority report for damn near 10 years now and i cant think of a single libertarian debate hes lost 😂 but then again Sam’s been in the game since the early 2,000’s so maybe youre reference something from back then

[@NStarks007]

Once you reach the conclusion that society's will always organize around a central power. That central power holds a monopoly of force to ensure we maintain our society. Everything else falls in line.

[@joesantiago9062]

It’s amazing how quickly these callers turn when they’re asked a simple question about their arguments lol

[@charlesray9674]

Sort of reminds me of Bethany

[@CuriousKey]

This guy is a particular standout because he ostensibly has a "podcast", which you'd hope would give him some public speaking skills, but by far most callers are people accustomed to talking big load of nothing with their friends. That's not an environment where logical consistency is often called into question. And people who are in a particularly constrained social bubble might be reinforced in untested ideas by credulous friends to the point where they think they're the always the smartest guy in the room. The result is they run into a bit of a wall when they end up in an environment where their ideas are questioned in any substantive way.

[@ericjohnson6105]

"It's all about the math" - "well here's some math" - "you said there would be no math!"

[@janetmartin988]

​@@CuriousKey Swings both ways. If you are being honest....

[@jonwdennis]

That guy set a new record in how fast it was obvious he knew absolutely nothing. You could see Sam smell blood in the water.

[@charlesray9674]

No, mate. Bethany was faster and she was even grilled by Sam 😂😂😂😂😂

[@brucebostick2521]

sam kept yanking his head up, saving him, but caller was a true imbecile!

[@jazzad]

I can believe how a country so hyped on liberty and justice managed to get its citizens to defend the wealthiest people at tehir own expense.

[@ntsikasifuba8464]

"Why do you keep talking about numbers" I thought this man was the social security maths expert.

[@DUDEBroHey]

Sometimes morals are enough. If SS is immoral (which it is) then that's enough.

[@rcg9573]

@@DUDEBroHey Yeah, but $800 billion a year in fraud loaded defense spending is moral. Idiot!

[@garrettwhite3922]

​@@DUDEBroHey please extrapolate on hownit is immoral I am here to learn and you seem to know something I don't

[@DUDEBroHey]

@@garrettwhite3922 it's a ponzi scheme

[@Furry-ousNews]

​​@@DUDEBroHey how is it a ponzi scheme? Bscause what it looks like much more closely resembles is a roth ira ....

[@Lynnianaa]

"You should build a machine that reads the social security report." Someone get the Aymon Twitter guy to the critical burn unit, stat!

[@Anna-vl8qc]

I love your name.👍

[@Draxtor]

This line rules!

[@nicw3251]

This guy was hysterical from the beginning. The man just completely lost it! Sam has the patience of a saint.

[@thomaswallace7059]

Imagine calling someone an idiot on social media, then being humiliated on his show 😂😂😂

[@hitachinakamura9935]

"The economy does not make these people poor, our decisions, as a society, has manifested through our government, this has made these people poor."" The way Sam just says these things so casually shows you how intelligent he is.

[@AggressiveLemur]

.....our economy makes people poor, but the government can put forth regulations that increases financial equality.

[@RumitheBartender]

Omg I found this comment as he was saying this… chills lol. Nice

[@phlipsburg]

Dude sounds like he’s about to break down crying 5 minutes in😂

[@Boomjay]

And he probably went back on his podcast telling his idiotic fans how he destroyed Sam.

[@cmasterson]

I'm at 8:00 and he crying. Lol

[@ronalddepesa6221]

This guy was so not prepared for this conversation. Under scrutiny he melted like an ice cream cone sitting on the roof of a parked car in Phoenix

[@burgermind802]

Sam catches people off guard by engaging with their ideas directly rather than shouting over them.

[@watamatafoyu]

The best way I've found to crush a conservative's terrible argument is to take it seriously and describe its logical path to conclusions.

[@jbrownil]

Just ask people to explain their idea and most of the time they'll just fall flat on their face

[@_allegra]

​@@watamatafoyu yeah, if you don't let them gish gallop their points almost crumble by themself

[@Lerian_V]

​@@watamatafoyu I'm a Conservative, let's do abortion. Are you game?

[@lavellelee5734]

​@@watamatafoyubeautiful innit 😂

[@TC-by3il]

Saw this during the livestream and it's glorious. Sam has been doing this thing for a long time, but he's really hitting a stride lately. The more exposure to his ideas the better.

[@zbyte64]

"You can shout all you want on your show but it won't change anything" - so much self-awareness 😂

[@AbrahamMeat]

And he said that while shouting, the petulant child.

[@thecanmanification]

I love how he said “I’m trying to think of solutions” then later changed his tune to “but you can’t predict the future because things could go this way or they could go the other way”

[@whatsupinspace854]

1) This guy thinks the average oife expectancy in the USA is 85?? 2) What does that matter? If people are living longer just raise the tax cap on it so the wealthy pay their fare share.

[@absoluteterror9098]

Caller at 7:24 - "you are a fucking idiot" Emma - *can't even hold back her smile* This debate is going to be great

[@NamelessOne22]

I love his idea that new technology is simultaneously going to take everyone's job away but then also fix everything, but also you can't predict the future. That was TOUGH to listen to.

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

Specifically .. HIS technology ... 😂

[@NoNameT2T4]

I actually believe this to be true. Technology, agi, robots, no cost energy, no cost compute, will render most Americans jobless. The problem is the in-term. We’re not prepared for the in-term period between mass joblessness and a time where people won’t have to work or be in want. We’ll have 3d printers printing our food, etc. Laid off workers will need UBI. Forty percent of U.S. jobs are in transportation. Autonomous vehicles and smart roads are coming for their jobs. We will need to change the tax structure to tax companies for every robot and every instance of ai/agi/automation. Or at least tax them commensurate with the number of workers they replaced. Once we can tax companies for replacing workers, then we can absorb mass unemployment and fund UBI.

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

@@NoNameT2T4 nah, they’ll just become prompt engineers 😬 That’s how human civilization survived for all this hundreds of thousands of years We can adopt to anything. New jobs will emerge and people will adopt their skills to suit those new jobs.

[@charlesray9674]

​@@RunForPeace-hk1cu Tell that to Joe Manchin!

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

@@charlesray9674 They are not honest actors ... hence it's a pointless discussing anything of substance with those people.

[@joshuahill2288]

That dude just got a lesson in critical thinking. Understanding the issue before asserting a position is usually a pretty good idea.

[@curtisw0234]

Except you’re predicting the future. Like bro you made that comment around the time of bank failures you should know better. All this inflation is destroying banks, pension funds and insurance companies. We could easily enter financial crisis here

[@mike196212]

I'm a Canadian(a ''commie'' to that caller) who loves your show,Sam. You give all of your callers,like this confused guy,a chance and they promptly self destruct. Swearing and calling someone ''dude'' and ''bro'' does ZERO to bolster your case. He clearly came on the air grossly unprepared.

[@alistercaddy1208]

"It's a math problem, you effing idiot." "OK, let's talk numbers." "I don't know the numbers and they don't matter."

[@07Flash11MRC]

Typical lib, lol...

[@thepolarphantasm2319]

A perfect summary of right wing arguments... "You people are so emotional" "About what?" "ABOUT EVERYTHING OH MY GOD YOU GUYS JUST RUINED THIS COUNTRY 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭"

[@nicfirebear]

It’s so nice of people to volunteer to make the arguments against Sam look terrible… 🤣

[@CMA418]

Low hanging fruit.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

This is worse... We get to know what this particular idiot looks like this time lol.

[@stylis666]

@@CMA418 That's an easy call. I could say that about every republican voter without even hearing what they have to say. They hypocritically whine about a problem their party caused, blame someone else, refuse all solutions that aren't a complete status quo and then whine some more about the problem they caused and blame everyone else for. They shout that they want the problem solved bu they don't. Case and point: the first thing the dude in this discussion did was say it's about the math, using it as an excuse to ignore the maths and jump to his conclusion, which isn't fixing the problem, but circumventing it by arranging your own retirement, (probably knowingly and intentionally) disregarding that not everyone can do that and that it would only maintain a status quo of rich people being fine and poor people not getting out of poverty. He was asked about his motivation, which he said was the maths, and all he did in response was shout harder that he wanted to only talk about the solution. His motivation doesn't support his conclusion. He said he wasn't against keeping people out of poverty and he's lying. His solution is to ensure they stay in poverty so they won't get any power to stop him from using his solution: Letting the rich take care of themselves and everyone else just has to work harder or die. He isn't the exception. This is the rule. The exceptions are people like Sam who demands to hear a non fallacious reasoning for important decisions that impact more people than just ourselves.

[@txgoalie15]

"Simon?" "No, it's Dunning-Kruger."

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

best comment here lulz

[@MustbeTheBassest]

Hahaha

[@ibringit987]

I find it alarming that this dude's main argument is that the government apparently didn't account for Social Security lifting people out of poverty *and* raising the life expectancy of Americans in the process...despite poverty and life expectancy having a pretty obvious correlation.

[@liquidmetaljesus]

Sam taking a sip is just...classic. Well done, Old Man

[@stewpacalypse7104]

After he hung up he went and meditated in front of his Elon Musk shrine and drinks a caffeine free diet coke.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Mannn I already feel bad for him that he's this pathetic and you're not helping lololol

[@nicw3251]

He probably had to chug blood pressure pills after this call. The man was losing it

[@GDub222]

“Dude why the fuck are you quizzing me about numbers man” 😂😂😂

[@ericsutter9941]

This dude is so gaslit with his Conservative talking points, calls Sam unrealistic about getting the government to raise the SS cap, yet he couldn't explain how HE could get housing costs lowered.. ROFL 😅

[@4lovebysara]

You cannot fix the future if we don't understand how we got here to begin with! I also love that the caller thought raising the cap would be absolutely impossible but lowering medical care costs & housing costs will be a piece of cake 🙄

[@brianarbuthnot9262]

That guy was really good at saying a lot of words without saying a god dam thing

[@carloscabrera7073]

That's what libertarians do.

[@JudasMaccabeus1]

I wish I had Sams nerves and calmness in a debate. Every time I get into a situation like this my heart rate increases, I fumble my thoughts, and end up not being able to articulate properly because I’m nervous.

[@severalwolves]

yeah it’s great. this is why reactionary figures prefer to only debate blue haired college freshman who were crying before they even began to talk - it’s a lot harder to argue with someone who’s been a progressive for more than 6 weeks haha

[@Centhar]

Two decades of experience

[@a-gnosis]

totally, i do the same haha

[@tari8134]

You're not alone. You need a lot of practice and confidence to stay calm during debates.

[@sampats89]

It's confidence that gives you patience. It's like a sport. Once you've put the work in you have the confidence to perform under pressure. Sam knows these guys haven't done any kind of homework they're just loud mouthed f-wits. All he has to do is be patient and feed them enough rope. All conservatives are either dumb or bad intentioned. Just feed them enough rope and they do the work for you😊

[@kristinrad]

How can this guy explain the problem with Sam's thinking when he's not able to think critically or clearly? Biggest giveaway was in the 20 minute area when the man who'd been screaming angrily for 20 minutes told Sam, "You can scream and yell" as Sam continued to speak in a calm and clear voice.

[@alterego6075]

The secondhand embarrassment got heavy towards the end lol