Samaya Basecamp Tent - Weather Warning Tested! - Expedition Tent - Watch before You Buy

[@jamiecrutchley3550]

The best thing about UK weather warnings is it’s guaranteed there will be a new Tom Heaney video putting a tent through its paces.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi Jamie, yes had to drive through 5 floods to get to the mountains... The rain on the tent was insane but I got up and down dry... best wishes and thank you for the comment... Tom

[@Martycycleman]

Just what I was thinking. Storm chaser!😅

[@Martycycleman]

Wow. £1500 wow. While you were going through the review, I was thinking £2000, at least. Something else. Cheers Tom.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

@@Martycycleman £900 with the discount..

[@Northern_Rockhopper]

Love the colour of this tent and build quality. Looks great.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Yes the tent is probably the nicest looking one I have ever seen... Build Quality and attention to detail are exceptional... Thank you for the comment and best wishes Tom

[@arcticradio]

Great tent it would work well here in Finland. The only problem I have is the bland colour 🤮 When you have 6-8 months of the year with snow you realise that tents like Vango make sense because the colour is mentally uplifting. Orange feels warm and eases the eye strain of endless white. I really, really wish manufacturers would look at this and produce maybe a different choice of colour inner tents. Even MSR do a red groundsheet so that helps. Honestly here in the snow I would not use this, it feels cold and dull which is a shame considering how good it is.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hey thank you for sharing your thoughts on the tent color.. In reality I personally like the color but that's just my individual choice and I have bought many expensive items that I didn't like the color of, due to them having great functionality and features.. A white inner tent is not my first choice either but I have bought many tents with white inners too.. Once again thank you for your comments and thoughts 💬. Best wishes Tom

[@KevinSmith-wr1sy]

Tom this is a dreamy tent. Thanks for always being the #1 tent reviewer on KZbin.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hey Kevin thank you for the very positive comment.. Yes this Tent has some space and features and looks fantastic too... Best wishes Tom

[@garynesbitt5078]

Hi Tom. Great detailed review as always. Based on my experience of owning the Assaut 2 8k I can confirm the attention to detail and features in that tent makes Hilleberg designs look somewhat dated by comparison. It just feels special. Based on your review this basecamp model is clearly in the same category. The customer experience I have had from samaya is amongst the best I have experienced in any industry never mind just the outdoor sector. I’m a massive fan of the brand and with the discount in particular this tent looks to represent exceptional value against the competition. Cheers. Gary

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi Gary, thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience regarding Samaya Equipment... Yes they really are forward thinking as a brand and make really innovative products... This Basecamp here is one of the nicest looking tents I have ever seen and it really excited me when I put it up.... I too have had exceptional customer service something which is rare these days.. Regarding Hilleberg tents, they make a really great basic product but have made few changes over the years and at some point if they wont change other brands like Samaya will start to get many of there sales IMO....best wishes Tom

[@OutdoorPrep]

You’ve been quite busy Tom and now we can officially call you the tent doctor… if the glove fits 😅 I’m starting to like this brand, they’ve stared to make some bigger tents too! Great to see! Thanks again for a great video

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi Rob, great to hear from you and I hope you are really well... Yeah steady enough on the reviews and a few tents still to go as a bit behind.. very fond of Samaya who really do make great kit and are innovative which is something that Hilleberg have stopped doing... best wishes Tom

[@BobSafar-d3o]

Just a quick update on my experience. I received the basecamp this past Friday. The tent box was in incredibly (embarrassingly so) poor shape, with the majority of the lid taped together. The pole bag was dirty, the elastic holding the poles together was so old that most of it had failed completely. What was really disappointing was that the attachment points for the inner were an older style elastic and loop design (not the nice clips as seen in Tom’s video) which is a huge pain as you basically have to reconnect and/or validate all the attachments are in place after pitching as these loops easily come off the elastic when the tent isn’t under tension. Other than the above the tent is awesome, build quality is exceptional, pretty easy to pitch (I had a bit of trouble getting the first two poles through the sleeves, however this is part learning curve, part -10F in the wind by myself and clumsy gloves). Obviously I received used / really old stock which is unacceptable in my opinion as that’s not what I purchased. I have an email off to Samaya, my final conclusion on the tent itself will unfortunately come down to an evaluation of Samaya’s customer service and how they remedy the situation.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi thank you for your comment and sharing your experience... I am sorry to hear of your experience... Many viewers have bought this tent and this is the first bad experience that I have heard of but it DEFINITELY sounds totally unacceptable and based on my experience of Samaya and 4 of their tents.. totally out of character.. It is great that you shared your thoughts here as it adds balance to this video and I am very interested in the response... Once again really sorry to hear of your circumstances... Best wishes Tom

[@TOMHEANEY100]

The tent should also be exactly the same as the one that I am demonstrating here...

[@BobSafar-d3o]

The Samaya customer service is top notch. They replaced the old / used tent immediately and provided a prepaid label to return. Made things super easy! Love the basecamp :)

[@TOMHEANEY100]

@@BobSafar-d3o Hey great to hear as a first class experience is what I have always had. Awesome too that you love the tent.. Thank you very much for the update.. Best wishes Tom

[@citadelstreamingbyjamesblades]

@@TOMHEANEY100 I just received my BASECAMP yesterday, and had a similar experience when I set it up for the initial check today. The box was in better shape than above (just one side that was torn, but I suspect that happened in shipping), and the tent was all good, but the tent inner/ outer connectors were the old style, and many of them came undone in the initial setup (with some of them being a bit of a pain to get reconnected). I have an email out to their support, so we will see what happens there, but hopefully it will be remedied quickly.

[@Oldrush]

Thank you for this review. Very much appreciated. I have a few hilleberg tents and am currently switching things around and I have been curious about this companies products. Your review helps me feel more confident to try them out. I’m not in the market for a 4 person otherwise I’d jump on this deal. I am looking for a 1-2 person for winter alpine trips.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hey great to hear your thoughts on tents.... I definitely have been super impressed with Samaya tents and I have tried more than a few Hillebergs.... The Assaut 2 8K has worked really well for me and is the tent that I use the most.... Best wishes Tom

[@danieljames2718]

Love the tent. And thank you for a great review.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hey great to hear your thoughts and thank you for sharing them.... best wishes Tom

[@genethefing4965]

Awesome Tom, love your cat too🤣👍

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Yeah both were pretty awesome... Never seen the cat before..... Thank you for watching and leaving me a comment. Best wishes Tom

[@evangelistcryinginthewilde6380]

Looks like a cracking tent that Tom. Like you say, it has just about everything that you would want in a tent. If I had need of such a large tent that would certainly be one to seriously consider. As always great review.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hey that you for the comments and great to hear from you.... Yes I was very impressed with the quality function and detail in this tent.. Best wishes and thank you for watching too.. Tom

[@BiznessWizard]

Thanks for the review of this Samaya Expedition tent! I can see there is an amazing amount of great features and details. Definitely looks like there is a new sheriff in town when it comes to tents of this type. Thanks again.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hey thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.... Yes I absolutely love the features and functional aspects of this tent... Samaya really do deliver on quality and attention to detail producing a totally premium product... best wishes tom

[@MrWipex]

What an absolutely brilliant tent! 🤩 I would pick one up if I wasn’t almost always alone on my trips. Many thanks for extremely interesting and well made reviews! 👌👏👏👏

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hey thank you for the comment and watching the video.. Yes I would too if I didn't camp on my own all the time.. Great to hear your thoughts 🤔.. best wishes and thank you for supporting the channel.. Tom

[@philliptaylor2870]

Your reviews are second to none!

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi Phillip, I do try hard with the testing field tests too... Thank you for your positive feedback... best wishes Tom

[@barziestrada]

Great video. Do you know if Samaya sells a mesh inner replacement, similar to Hilleberg, for warmer camp days?

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi as far as I am aware no they do not.. I am also not sure if Hilleberg does it with their larger tents either.. Larger tents generally don't sell as well as smaller ones and then mesh inners may sell even less.. This tent though is very well ventilated with many options and also the thinner 20d inner will be more breathable than the 40 on the Hilleberg.. I hope that this helps.. best wishes Tom

[@audungillerdalen]

Great , great video again Tom 👏👏👏

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hey thank you for watching and I hope that you really enjoyed it.... best wishes Tom

[@neilmckenna236]

Thats a great looking tent Tom 👌

[@TOMHEANEY100]

It really is! Very easy on the eye.. Packed with all the features we love too .. Great to hear from you.. Tom

[@neilmckenna236]

@@TOMHEANEY100 A modern updated take on the VE25?

[@BobSafar-d3o]

Thanks Tom! I just picked one up using the discount. Should deliver tomorrow. -17F forecast for the weekend low, can’t wait!

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hey great to hear and thank you for letting me know.. This is an amazing tent and I hope you are very happy with it... Where are you based as you are so lucky to have weather like that for camping?? Tom

[@BobSafar-d3o]

Nebraska :) Thanks again for all your videos! I’ve been on a search for a few months now, had pretty much decided on a Savio, but just couldn’t pass this one up! Your videos and approach to the evaluations have been a huge help! @@TOMHEANEY100

[@alanoneill7009]

Great review Tom. I’ve taken the plunge and bought one to replace my North Face VE.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Wow that's awesome you will love it . Many congratulations and thank you for letting me know.. I would also love to hear your thoughts when you get it.. best wishes Tom

[@alanoneill7009]

Hard to argue with 40% off, can’t wait to take it out. Hopefully you will bring more bargains along with your valuable insights in future👍

[@TOMHEANEY100]

@@alanoneill7009 Yes Alan I hope I can... best wishes Tom

[@Fellmandave1]

Great show and tell Tom, and a level above the average review showing storm performance at the same time. Double poled! You could drive a tractor over it then, probably. Great showing the Mournes, going to get over to the English high country this year?

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi Dave thank you for your comments and watching this video at a mad time..... yr up early.... Yes I do try and show storm conditions if possible although most viewers take the manufactures word for it.... I would have loved to double the poles and double the wind speed but that's for such a minority audience and carrying this tent on my own was enough but actually doable never mind with a second set of poles... You should buy one for your first venture into the premium market and your scouts would love it.... best wishes and I appreciate your comment.... Tom

[@Fellmandave1]

@@TOMHEANEY100 I can't sleep at night Tom, worrying about getting premium.

[@The-Yorkshire-Man]

Great review Tom - as ever! Finally got my Jannu - game on! 👍🏻 Clive.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hey Clive this is fantastic news.. Have you pitched it yet and what are your thoughts? Best wishes and many congratulations... Tom

[@The-Yorkshire-Man]

@@TOMHEANEY100 Hi Tom, not yet - just got it and have been busy with all the mundane day to day stuff. Can’t wait to get some time to try it out. Will let you know my thoughts when I do - All the best mate. C.

[@citadelstreamingbyjamesblades]

You showed that the rear door has a half mesh that can be opened up for ventilation without bugs; does the front door also have a half or full mesh section?

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi thank you for watching the video... Yes both front and rear doors have the half mesh option... sorry I didn't show this.... best wishes and any other questions just ask... Tom

[@citadelstreamingbyjamesblades]

Thanks for the info @tomheaney100. I did wind up ordering a Basecamp after seeing what the saivo 4 costs, as I can get 2-3 tents for that same price tag if needed

[@hanskirk-hiking9697]

Hi Tom you just have made another great video with an outstanding tent, that must be one off the best tent on the market to ride out a storm on a mountain. Buy the way a really like the color of the tent.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi Hans great to hear from you and your thoughts 🤔.. Thank you very much for the positive feedback, it's really appreciated.. Yes it was amazing to get the opportunity to test a tent like this and I was very impressed.. Yes I actually love the color too... Hey best wishes my friend and as always looking forward to seeing your next video.. Tom

[@WheredoIgo-by7rw]

Thank you for your in-depth review, Tom! I couldn't resist the crazy offer and bought the Basecamp right away based on your 40% discount. The plan is to see if the Basecamp will be capable of replacing my Hilleberg Tarra for winter snow camping in the Swiss Alps. Keeping in mind the current price (and availability) of the Tarra (€ 1650), this offer is just too good. My partner and I love the Tarra, as it just gives us peace of mind under all conditions - especially in the Alps, where the weather can always change quickly and dramatically. In this regard, the Basecamp seems to keep up with the Tarra. The 4-person size of the Basecamp and the corresponding 5.6kg may turn out to be an overkill. However, in winter, it's nice to have enough space for all your gear, and weight-wise that's more or less comparable to the Tarra. What may set the Basecamp apart from the Tarra in my point of view: 1) Ventilation: I love the Basecamp's proper vents that I miss heavily with the Tarra. 2) Workable vestibule space: Even though the Tarra comes with two quite big vestibules, they are not fully workable due to their flat diagonal shape - especially in high winds. 3) Pockets for storage. 4) Fully geodesic dome structure: On the flat parts of the Tarra's roof, water and snow tend to pile up. Can't wait to test it in the coming season :)

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hey thank you very much for letting me know that you have bought the Samaya Basecamp.. Yes its an amazing offer that's for sure and I am sure the stock wont last long... Hilleberg tents are great but the price has really increased lately for new ones but the second hand market seems to have slowed down.. The Tarra is a fantastic tent and I have reviewed one but like you say the vestibule is small compared to the basecamp and the basecamp has masses more interior space too.. One of the reviews on the Samaya website talks about using the tent in Greenland and it was two people sharing so definitely doable for this..Between two people 3KG each so only 1kg more per person that the Tarra for so much more comfort and liveability..best wishes with the tent and let me know your thoughts once you get it if you get a chance... Tom

[@WheredoIgo-by7rw]

Will let you know about my thoughts on the Basecamp @@TOMHEANEY100 . P.S. I also bought the Tarra based on your review at the time ;) So please keep going! Your in-depth reviews and proper testings (especially in high-winds) build a super valuable and trusted basis for my purchase desicions.

[@yasirsiddique5933]

@@TOMHEANEY100 Hi Tom is still possible to get this 40% discount code?

[@TOMHEANEY100]

@@yasirsiddique5933 You just got to try it that is all I would do to find out . It has been working for a long time so might Still be.. best wishes Tom

[@joshchamale7897]

Hey Tom, first of all, love your videos. I’m wondering how does this compare to the Samaya 3.0 and 2.5? I’m looking for a tent that can have 2 comfortable people in it and with stand some serious wind and rain at low temperatures. Saw only that the 2.5 is lighter and cheaper but the 3.0 has similar futures to the assaut2 8k. Would love to read your thoughts on this.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi Josh, thank you for your feedback on my videos.. Ok let's work first by eliminating the Basecamp if you are looking for a two person tent! Its just too big and heavy and if winds are beyond 40mph based on my experience to needs to be double polled adding further weight... The 2.5 looks pretty good but uses 8.7 mm poles and I am not sure how these would manage in high winds as its a reasonably large tent.. BUT it's hard to say for sure as I have not tested it.... So then it comes down to the 3.O which is very light for its size and uses 10.65 mm poles and a geodesic structure... That would be my pick and I think the safest option between the 3 tents... best wishes and sure let me know which one you decide to go for... Tom

[@memphisreines]

Let's Fucking GOH.... Tom, that tent looks like a good challenger to the competition. I wish i was the third wheel to form a trifecta of outdoor men facing nothing but harsh conditions.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hey Memphis great to hear your thoughts as usual. Glad you enjoyed the video and this tent is definitely a major contender if not the best in category.. best wishes Tom

[@memphisreines]

@@TOMHEANEY100 happy holidays. And stay out there. No matter what.

[@trickofthetrail]

Another cracking looking tent from Samaya. Like you, I don't need a 4 person tent, but it looks like great value if I did. I'm trying to save my pennies to get my hands on a Samaya Assault at some point. Although my new mortgage rate isn't exactly helping that task. 😂 Great video as always Tom. 👍

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hey Mark, thank you for the comment.. Yes definitely another great tent from Samaya.. Great to hear you are thinking of an Assaut.... As you know I absolutely love mine... best wishes Tom

[@Bikepacking]

Very nice tent

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi Mark, yes it definitely is so thank you for the comment... Best wishes Tom

[@stigfloberghagenphotography]

Nice test and review 👍🙂

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hey thank you very much for the feedback.. best wishes Tom

[@stigfloberghagenphotography]

@@TOMHEANEY100 👍

[@bjarnieyfjord]

Hi Tom and thanks for the review. I just bought the Basecamp tent to use in the snow in Iceland and also for highland travel in the summer. I noticed that the water resistance rating is lower than other Samaya tents and competitors. Can you share your thoughts on the water resistance based on your test? Is this something I should be concerned about?

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hey that's awesome and thank you for letting me know.. Honestly I wouldn't worry at all.. I had 2 Mountain Hardware Trango 2 s and 4 North Face expedition Tent s all with ratings of 1500 and never a problem.. This Samaya was tested here in a weather warning for rain and no leaks... A high HH rating is used by some manufacturers to help sell their tents but applying lots of water proof coating s such as PU actually stiffens and weakens the fabric.. Congratulations on such a nice and functional tent.. best wishes and let me know your thoughts if it suits sometime.. Tom

[@leerobinson4553]

Hi Tom, another informative video even with the pitch invasion 🐾🐈‍⬛ The tent looks very similar to the hilleberg Saitaris. How do they compare for size & overall performance?

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi Lee, I have reviewed the Saitaris but not wind tested it.. Wouldn't be much difference performance wise as very similar in size, pole diameter and design.. Internally very similar too but the Samaya is better featured and about a kilo lighter due to some lighter fabric.. The Samaya is way better value too IMO. Best wishes Tom

[@MikeTyrrell-cx1rn]

Tom, any experience with the Samaya 2.5? Thanks in advance from New Hampshire.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi Mike I am afraid not yet...I am sure it's pretty good based on what else I have seen with the brand... Very light too that's for sure.. I hope that helps.. best wishes Tom

[@simonhjc]

Another great review but can I ask how do you you go about carrying this? Whats the advantage over say 2x 2 person 4 season tents? Its base camp so is it packed in a car? It looks full of features but i dont have the experieince to understand its purpose. Let me know tom. Ps- bloody cats mine does the same

[@TOMHEANEY100]

I actually carried it on my own but only an hours hike... Split it... Poles, and tent between the users. Or one person carries the tent but doest carry other essential gear as it's carried for by the other team members. Same principle as any 4 person tent.. the group of users can all sit around in the tent socialising.. Probably slightly lighter to share one big tent than two smaller ones but always pros and cons...

[@oldnews8268]

liked the vid for the cat

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Yes it was a nice visit... Best wishes Tom

[@colourdoodles3507]

Tom, thank you for a great review as always and the discount code. Just purchased one, the code worked and saved me £600…!!!!! 👍 How can I buy you a coffee? 😁

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi, thank you so very much for letting me know that you have bought this awesome tent.. I wish you all the very best with it and please let me know what you think once you get it... The coffee link is ko-fi.com/tomheaneyadventure97033. thank you very much... best wishes and congratulations. Tom

[@colourdoodles3507]

👍 enjoy a couple of large coffees on me….

[@TOMHEANEY100]

@@colourdoodles3507 Hey thank you so much really appreciate it.. Tom

[@memphisreines]

Heliberg saitaris vs Samaya Basecamp, which one would you choose?

[@TOMHEANEY100]

If I was buying one I'd definitely buy the Samaya ... The Saitaris is just too pricey.. best wishes Tom

[@memphisreines]

@@TOMHEANEY100 pricing being your worse con?

[@TOMHEANEY100]

@@memphisreines yeah but Hilleberg are great tents but they are doing very little to improve them and they lack features and will have minimal pockets and gear loops.. Second hand value is also looking like it's not holding up as well as it used to.. Tom

[@michaelsargeant5923]

How price's have gone up I paid £1.2000 for my saitaris. Nice tent .

[@TOMHEANEY100]

yeah they sure have a Saitaris is now £2500 which is mad money... thank you for watching and great to hear from you... best wishes Tom

[@xristostsitsios7320]

If you can compare to the trango tent from mountain hardwear, or a ve25 northface tent or even a hilleberg black series tent what is your choice among them; Nice video as always!

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi in the real world they all have pros and cons... I have tested, owned and used all of these.. The Mountain Hardware Tango's definitely cut corners, and North Face dont concentrate on tents as much as they used to.. The Samaya and Hilleberg both are a level up in respect of being Premium.. The Hilleberg Black label equivalent would be heavier, over twice the price but slightly more durable due to that extra weight.. The Samaya at this money or even full price would be my pick for a 4 person tent.. best wishes Tom

[@xristostsitsios7320]

​@TOMHEANEY100 OK thank you for your info Greetings from Greece

[@xristostsitsios7320]

​@TOMHEANEY100 I see you test it at rain. Did you have any problem with rain or it is well waterproof.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

@@xristostsitsios7320 seriously water proof no issues at all and rain extremely heavy and wind driven.. Tom

[@xristostsitsios7320]

​@TOMHEANEY100 finally i bought the tent from your discount , I couldn't t resist. I will send you my opinion and some pictures maybe on Instagram after I test it in some extreme weather

[@gavinhalm3016]

This is a fabulous, highly robust tent. 40MPH winds are a joke for this thing, single poled. Double poled, it'll handle virtually any wind conditions, 60 on up

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hey Gavin, yes this is a really nice tent... To be honest 40mph were putting it under a little pressure BUT then thats what double poles are for and this is easy to do and adds significant strength.. Thank you for the comment and best wishes Tom

[@PhillipSimpson-mx6vm]

I think the cat has claimed ownership!

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Yes it loved the tent.... thank you for the comment.... best wishes Tom

[@AJ_Alive]

Vs Trango 4?

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Trango heavier but more durable fabrics.. It's a tough one might just depend on the cost.. Having reviewed both I think I would go for the Samaya . It just feels a little better quality..

[@AJ_Alive]

@@TOMHEANEY100 also outer pitch first to I see. Be good to see some reviews of the kailas expedition tents.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

@@AJ_Alive ok good idea . I will see if I can contact them.. best wishes Tom

[@AJ_Alive]

@@TOMHEANEY100 well you’re the best at doing these reviews Tom. All the best.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

@@AJ_Alive Hey thank you I appreciate you feedback.. Best wishes Tom

[@_Chris390]

Deleted my comment because I was making fun of Samaya's Arcteryx Veilance / Rapha-esque Instagram page / social media strategy, along with their flat caps and craft beer drinking, and all of them being white? Bit harsh. Also, wouldn't you want a base camp tent in a bright colour for safety? But this only comes in this sage green. RE: Features and quality - looks the same as any other base camp tent.

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi Chris.. no worries with your comments and sharing your personal opinion re colour. I can assure you I have tested and been in more tents over 30 years than most and the features and quality of this tent surpass them all... But sure that's only my opinion and I have evidenced this in the video.... best wishes Tom

[@_Chris390]

Something really dodgy going with this company. I just checked their "Outlet" / sale section again, and it now says: £950.00 £2,000.00 SAVE 52% ( £1,050.00 ) Pretty sure before it said the RRP was £1500, as shown in your video, and which is same price the newer version costs at full price. So they seem to be doing what sellers on Amazon do: Jacking up the supposed "full price" / RRP to make the discounts seem better. Now they can say you save 52% (£2000 to £950), whereas in your video here you said it's a 40% saving (£1500 to £900). Really very uncool and dodgy marketing and tactics. How can they retroactively change the RRP of an old / discontinued product!?

[@TOMHEANEY100]

Hi Chris, When I made this video all the information was and is still accurate regarding this particular tent. The Outlet product is a 2021 model and £2000 could have been the price at that time I honestly dont know.. There could well be some differences in the exact specification and thats between you and Samaya if you are interested in asking them why there are differences in the price regarding the older and newer models.. I have tested this tent (carried it up a mountain on my own in a weather warning), showed you a lot of detail, and gave you an amazing discount code, so if that is not enough then like I said before further questions should be directed directly to Samaya not here in these comments. I hope you understand... best wishes Tom

[@thegroove2000]

Explain how someone can carry such a heavy tent for hiking unless your built like a brick shithouse?

[@TOMHEANEY100]

It's meant to be carried by 4 people split up so that's about 1.5kg each .. And I carried it on my own to film this review..I can't be more fair than that.. Best wishes Tom

[@thegroove2000]

Thanks.@@TOMHEANEY100