San Jose Sharks Trade Granlund and Ceci to the Dallas Stars for Draft Picks

[@benjamingardner157]

I've been waiting for this vid since the trade news dropped. Gotta know what the professor thinks!

[@Flyboy245]

I’m having a hard time with this one, mainly because we didn’t get another player back to refill the roster, and it’s a lower first round pick. Initially I didn’t realize he would’ve been an unrestricted free agent, and I was bummed we were losing our top scorer. But now I understand wanting to get something for him. I’m so glad you have your ear to the ground about prospects and the future, because honestly some of the phrases you were using were completely foreign to me

[@Evan8787]

You're not alone. I think the trade was too soon. A trade closer to the deadline would have scored more. It's a first rounder, but a late first rounder. This means the pick will unlikely result in anything groundbreaking. It also didn't replace Granlund with any player, so the Sharks, who already stink, will be downright pitiful. It's (purposely) losing and management can't expect fans to tolerate this much longer.

[@kenjackson6256]

Thanks Prof, for bringing up the possibility of an Askarov-level trade with that first rounder. And remember, for the Sharks this year, losing isn't a bug - it's a feature!

[@ponyboy9765]

Seeing Grandlund go is sad but seeing Mike Grier turn Erik Karlssons contract into two first round picks is pretty insane. I’m really hoping they use it as a package for a roster player (particularly a Dman) since I’m not keen on waiting 3+ years to see how that pick pans out. A nice tidy bit of work and nice that we didn’t have to use a 3rd team as a broker. Will be interesting to see how they fill out their roster after this trade.

[@professorhockey]

I think they would be willing to part with a lot to pick up an early 20s defenseman, especially a RHD. I floated Nemec and Clarke, but how available those guys actually are is anyone’s guess, might just be talk. Hopefully they can pull it off

[@ponyboy9765]

@ Clarke would be such an insane pickup. Guy would fit our timeline like a glove.🧤

[@dylanhaswell6653]

I hope Bystedt or Bordeleau get to play in that 3C at least once it would be good for Bystedt to get that taste so he knows what to expect

[@metsunie]

You know what scares me the most with this trade? That we see somehow Goodrow on the 2nd line with Smith because they need "veteran", if they want to keep Wennberg as the 3C. And more scary than that? The possibility of having the pair of Ferraro - Rutta back...

[@professorhockey]

I think there will be a lot of questionable lineup choices down the stretch now unfortunately, we may just have to grin and bear it.

[@tomdolan9761]

I think more trades are likely as we get closer to the deadline. Sturm when healthy is a desirable commodity and so is Ferraro. The Sharks are also in position to take on bad contracts for additional draft capital and maybe a disgruntled player. I have confidence in what Mike is doing to improve the organization

[@idthejc]

Professor! *Raises Hand* Do you think that with Chernyshov being linemates with Michael Misa now that it'll impact our scouting for Misa? Is there a chance that pushes him above Schaefer in our internal rankings just because we'll get to see so much of him while monitoring Chernyshov and with Schaefer hurt and unable to be scouted?

[@professorhockey]

I really don’t think anyone is passing Schaefer on our draft list unless we go out and acquire a young defensive prospect through other means. However, if we don’t get Schaefer, this is certainly an opportunity for Misa to become our second choice.

[@idthejc]

@@professorhockey Do you think the Granlund trade will result in seeing Smith playing 2C?

[@tomdolan9761]

Colin Graf is going to get a longer look

[@previnsnaidu1]

To be honest, getting this much for Granlund and Ceci is as much as we could have wanted. Granlund netting a 1st without having to give anything to a third team to retain salary was a welcome sight and getting a 3/4 rounder for Ceci just adds to getting 2 picks for Emberson

[@justinpalumbo2447]

I agree, I would be surprised if MG used this #1. The conditional pick is a 3rd via the Jets I think so potentially could be a couple slots higher than DAL 3rd. Do you think we give Luca the cup of coffee in the show? I know he’s young for a Dman but looks really good.

[@Me-eq3sg]

Probably just gonna be thompson/vlasic

[@professorhockey]

I believe the exact details are that it is the Jets’ fourth rounder that would become the Stars’ third rounder if they make the finals. Also, I expect at most we will see Mukh back up with the team, I think Cags will finish out the year with the Cuda.

[@metalmario1267]

Okay professor 🥵 hopefully we get Nemec

[@operasinger2126]

Sharks will probably have very high picks for the next 2 drafts. Grier and Sharks scouts got a lot of work in front of them.

[@Gruell]

Nope 2026 Stanley cup champs

[@soysauske5768]

It makes me a bit nervous seeing the Sharks be this bad again and now they’re gonna be even worse I know they are still rebuilding but at some point the team needs to turn the corner and sooner than later They need to at least be competitive next year

[@caravaggiohs9020]

forward call up predicitions? going to the game on tuesday, might be a rough one xD but good trade nonetheless, sad to see but good

[@professorhockey]

Hmm, I’m going with Bordeleau as my bold prediction. Graf and Gushchin got a look, I think Bords deserves one too.

[@mikevchu]

Solid for both teams. Maybe the Sharks flip the pick as you mentioned

[@MattHockeyGuy]

One slight correction, the most recent LATE pick was Quentin Musty, in 2023, who is actually an exceptionally exciting prospect

[@professorhockey]

True, but 2023 was a deep draft which was my point. I think 2025’s depth is more like 2022, which is why I felt Bystedt was more relevant.

[@MattHockeyGuy]

@professorhockey fair

[@tomdolan9761]

Grier could also be looking to improve that second first round pick like he did last year to draft Dickinson. If they miss on Matthew Schaeder maybe Jackson Smith ?

[@professorhockey]

It’s possible, maybe even a big trade up for Viktor Eklund haha. We saw the Coyotes have to give up 27, 34 and 45 to move up to 11 in 2022 (with the Sharks actually), so would the Sharks be willing to part with this pick, their own second and maybe a second next year to jump up to the early teens? In this draft, in may not be worth it unless they have a guy they really like.

[@tomdolan9761]

@ We're at least two years from the playoffs and three from real contention so it about acquiring difference makers on the apppoximate same timeline. Schaefer would be ideal for us this year but if not James Hagens and Jackson Smith would move the needle.

[@SharksFan1968]

100% support both this idea and the "packaging for a 20 year old" option. Someone will slip into the low teens -- Sharks already have tons of bottom six / 2nd or 3rd pair depth -- need as many high top 6 and top 3 d-men prospects as possible.

[@tabby842]

Damn, I kind of wanted to package Granlund for a higher 1st since I really want to try and shoot for Eklund too. But all things considered, we converted Granlund's value into much higher value so it's hard to complain. But outside the 13ish picks in the 1st round, I read the talent drops off quite a bit, so meh.

[@professorhockey]

I don’t think any team with a high pick would have traded for Granlund, so to get one, they would always have had to go through this type of multi-part move

[@tabby842]

​@@professorhockey Outside of the top 5 maybe, but I'm thinking if Granlund continued his pace here and we signed him to an extension + heavy retention with the slot opening up this summer, we could increase his value a lot, despite his age.

[@Christorre_sharksfan]

If goodrow plays2nd line center, I am going to have a heart attack💀😭😭

[@professorhockey]

You and me both

[@tomdolan9761]

It's Winnipeg''s fourth round pick unless the Stars make the Cup final

[@damageinc346]

My guess is the Sharks will take some bad contracts to fill their roster for the rest of the season

[@professorhockey]

It’s possible, I’m not entirely sure of what bad contracts are out there at the moment. We shall see

[@tomdolan9761]

@@professorhockeyNew Jersey is in Cap trouble and needs room. We've sort of picked their pocket a couple of times so they may not answer the phone but needs must and we can take contracts

[@damageinc346]

@@professorhockey they only play two games before the four nations break. they've got time

[@CLew9]

If the Sharks aren't going to flip the pick I am hoping Dallas gets a first round exit and that the sharks snag Blake Fiddler with that pick

[@professorhockey]

Picks 17-28 are decided by which teams are eliminated in the first two rounds, the teams that had the worst regular season records pick higher, the teams that win their division pick lower. Considering Dallas is 6th in the league, even a first round exit will still amount to a pick around 26 or so.

[@Dwagz07]

I never liked how they advertise conditional picks in trades. It's a 4th, with a small chance of being a 3rd. There was a lot of promotion from media about timo's trade netting 2 1sts, but again was really a 1st+2nd with small chance of 1st on the condition. Advertised as the minority/conditional outcome, rather than the majority/base outcome. Tangent aside, great trade by Grier.

[@SupremeFallacy1776]

It’s not that hard of a condition to meet though. Dallas just needs to make it to the Finals. They were favorites before this trade and with these pieces it makes it easier

[@Dwagz07]

@@SupremeFallacy1776 Dallas makes the finals or the VGK/oilers/Colorado/jets/wild/kings make the finals. I'm taking the field 100/100 even money since the point is it either IS or ISNT. Sharks had a decade of regular season dominance with the Thornton era and that resulted in 1 finals appearance. It mostly certainly is hard to get back there.

[@professorhockey]

Yeah this will be a somewhat difficult condition to meet. I will say that for the other first in the Meier trade, they only had to make the eastern conference finals, which the Devils came pretty close to doing that year.

[@kenjackson6256]

What a sign of desperation for the Stars. First and fourth AND not retaining salary for those two? I wonder if Grier was wearing a mask when he made that deal...

[@professorhockey]

They’ve been close-ish to a cup these last couple years, maybe this puts them over the top. They certainly need the help to get over a team like Edmonton.

[@idthejc]

Well, the Sharks can't retain salary so it was a take it or leave it kind of deal.

[@mattblom3990]

Was waiting for your comments the moment this trade hit. Granlund has been great overall, essentially a late 1st round pick for him and nothing else? Not fantastic. Also, this means "tank mode" for San Jose for the rest of this season for sure. You cannot just make up that loss of production.

[@Me-eq3sg]

Your never getting more than that for a rental on a still fairly high cap hit. It will make the rest of the season a very rough watch though. You rarely see it, but if grandy comes back next season i would love that

[@professorhockey]

I think the big thing holding Granlund back from more value was questions about how he would do in the playoffs, and how he would do with a decreased role. Granlund has not made it past the first round in a decade, and he hasn’t exactly been a dominant force in those games. Also he is heading to Dallas to be likely their third line center, can he still produce without those twenty minutes a night? We will find out.

[@damonmusha6504]

Strongly disagree. He’s a rental. Granlund has been very good but he’s on the back end of his career. I’m pretty happy with the haul, even though this isn’t the strongest draft class.