Santa Cruz Screaming hand checker C5 | review + C5 vs CX

reviewing @Santa Cruz Skateboards x @Carver Skateboards screaming hand checker 30 surfskate with C5 trucks
Specs 0:44
pumping 1:43
concave 2:08
wheelbite 2:36
mellow hill carving 2:56
Jack's review 4:26
Skater rides the screaming hand 7:49
James' review 8:44
city riding/commuting 10:30
C5 vs CX 11:06
conclusion 13:26
#surfskate #santacruz #carver
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[@PauloBerni699]

I just put a set of C5s on my Salba with 60mm super juice OJs and the trucks are a bowl riding game changer for carving. They work stunningly. I’m no longer into moves where I’m grinding or my wheels are leaving the ground. My carver resin with the CX system is my board for cruising and low elevation carving.

[@Murdee6]

That dude just mimicked the deck design at 10:23

[@boris4344]

wow! am I first here? just was searchin' for c5 review. and here is it!

[@shanelai2515]

Yes!

[@tyoung2141]

Background tune is very classy and really grew on me - just enough volume and pace - a pro job my friend! Also enjoyed the audio of the wheel carves! Headed down to FL next week to escape snow and allow me to practice in some parks on my new Carver Super Surfer with CX.

[@mikeuptegrove]

The CX C5 comparison was great. So it looks like the front trucks have same radius, and the difference is in the back truck essentially. I find that a loose back truck eats up my energy return pumping because I pump with my back foot by pushing through the wheels, letting the turn radius of the front truck dictate my turns with my front foot as merely a guide. Your C5 looks looser than mine. If I loosen it, the nuts comes off. If I tighten it, it’s almost like a normal skate truck. I also ended up putting harder durometer wheels onto my C5 when o cracked a 78A slimeball doing an Ollie. Someone told me the best thing to do with the C5 truck is to buy the Independent aftermarket bushing in soft. My view is, leave the harder back bushings to keep drive, and replace front bushings with soft aftermarket Independent bushings. BTW, I have yet to get wheel-bite with my C5 with my biggest wheels being 56mm, and I do lots of Ollies and flip tricks. Anyways, thanks for the thorough review. Aloha. 🤙🤙

[@muckeyn]

Do you have the screaming hand or just c5 trucks? I noticed on the carver website it says the c5 come with 92A cone/barrel but the screaming hand comes with cone/cone. The independent bushings won’t work because the street size would be too short. Most longboard height bushings would work though. I swapped the venom shr bushings 88 front 91 rear cones I have on the cx onto the c5 and got instant wheel bite with 60mm wheels, even with an extra 1/8 riser. I think the only way to get more lean/looseness from these is downsizing the wheels or raising the height (defeats the advantage of the c5). Might have to try 56mm wheels. Which are you using?

[@mikeuptegrove]

@@muckeyn I’ve got my C5’s on an 8.88 Krooked Mark Gonz deck. I’ve got some hyperflex 56mm wheels, called, “rock candies”. They’re super hard. Not for, “SurfSkating”. I had 54.5 mini OG Slimeballs, 78A, previously on same C5 setup. But, I literally cracked the slimeball wheel with an ollie. I have some videos up with specs and stuff for the rock-candies, but I don’t recommend them frankly. They aren’t conical, they’re like regular, hard, street skating wheels from the 90s. The rounded wheels are better for flip tricks. Not as good for SurfSkating. Yeah, I haven’t tried switching the bushings. I don’t think I’m running risers. I’ll go look. If I am they’d be 1/4” risers. No wheel bites on anything, not doing Ollies, nor flip tricks. The truck will actually turn and make the deck slip out from under me before it bites. Makes sense about the bushing sizes, as the bushings on C5 look taller. But yeah, someone told me the soft Indy aftermarket bushings loosen it up greatly and work well. I haven’t tried. But I know the hard stock bushings on it, don’t make it surfy much. If I loosen it, not comes off. :-/

[@muckeyn]

@@mikeuptegrove gotcha. What’s the width of those wheels? I’m trying to find a wheel that is still fairly grippy for pumping but works for ollies, flips and maybe some curb grinding here and there. I grew up skating in the late 90s so I don’t want to go back to those tiny hard wheels ha. I tried some venom barrels boardside I already had today and I didn’t get any wheelbite but it felt similar to the stock cone/cone bushings even though they are softer. I need to find my wheels and deck first then dial in the bushings.

[@mikeuptegrove]

@@muckeyn I don’t know the wheel wheel width sadly. I think you’re asking about the Rock Candies I have on the C5 and not the mini OG slimeballs. The 54.5 slimeball OG minis are very grippy at 78a. Flat too. You’ll have to pop harder for flip tricks though. I also grew up skating in the 90s in Northern CA, spent a lot of time in SF during the height of its fame for skating; was right in the mix of a lot of cool stuff. Was pretty awesome. I just started skating again after more than 23 years off a board entirely…SurfSkating gave skating a new life for me.

[@muckeyn]

@@mikeuptegrove same here! Grew up in socal. Been a bit over 20 years since I seriously skated outside of cruisers and longboards.

[@rageburst]

Modification can be done to make the nut go on the opposite side, so you can grind the coping more. Otherwise you can shatter the nut.

[@mrwhite6680]

Thanks for the video. It had everything I was looking for and I've just bought the board for £140.

[@quiettime1282]

This video made me buy this exact board, I'm based in UK. You mention it pumps pretty well and gets good forward momentum, this is my main goal, to pump and carve around. I'm having difficulty getting any kind of speed uphill whilst pumping, should I switch to a CX truck on this board or is it just my technique? Is this board pumpable enough to just cruise around?

[@RmfDiz]

Pro tip: these trucks don't need to be loose at all. They can be really tight and will still turn really tight. - cx rider, who just purchased some c5s. The cx's have 80 something duro bushings, and the c5s are like 95 or so. Either way, they'll flow.

[@mauroxhcx]

I have a carver triton and now got the SC with c5's... for some reason the c5 seems more unstable which its crazy cause I got them to have more stability

[@RmfDiz]

@mauroxhc885 tighten them. I mained them in the bowl on a 14.5 wb 1980s reissue Powell Peralta deck and the were more stable than my ace af1's I'm using now on a creature stumps deck.

[@rickydasler6354]

Really good thorough review. Thanks.

[@shanelai2515]

Glad you like it 😊

[@Quickrex]

The conception in general is that the C5 truck is not a surfskate truck. I will argue that it is, definitely more stable when riding fakie, try doing that on a curfboard truck, good luck. The CX turn and leans better but way more an directional truck, that is difficult to ride fakies consistently and sits much higher above the pavement. I would recommend Orangatang bushings, they just gives this quality surfy feeling, slightly better pump and return to center than the standard bushing. The Otang knuckles have this riot plug thing going on in the bottom bushings, just better Urethane quality overall.

[@charifchaud]

Fan du Maroc j'avais une santa Cruz fin des année 80 PUIS UNE PAWEL PERALTA ET UNE BODYGLOVE

[@everydaybiker]

Nice one brother Shane

[@nicholasrichon5062]

Sweet board. Alternative setup but similar that I landed on: Powell Peralta Pro McGill 10x30.125, Carver C5 trucks, Ricta 60mm Clouds 78 durometer. It's a sick setup and truck is forward set without drilling board. 19" wb axle to axle. Invert forward kingpin, 3/8" of rise.

[@otteirad]

That's nice!! I'm riding a similar setup with a Tommy Guerrero deck, c5 trucks and g-bones 64mm wheels

[@sambumi6274]

Hello. Thank you for your video. What is for you the best truck of surfskate for bowl and pumptrack ? Thanks

[@mskeletti]

So helpful thanks brother :)

[@robfone17]

Very good review that cheers 👌👍

[@adamgonesage]

Man that park looks sick

[@jimramirez3342]

Hey Shane, in this board did you changed the trucks and wheels or this is the stock set up? Thank you so much 🙏🏼

[@shanelai2515]

Everything is stock

[@wre66425616]

Is it possible to do inifnity loop with this c5 setup?

[@honolulujuicer7573]

Hi Shane, which wheels would you prefer for this board for bowl and park riding? Maybe the carver park wheels?

[@shanelai2515]

I did not like the carver park wheels. It felt slow and dead. Now choosing wheels will depend on your type of riding and what you are going to do in the bowl. At the moment I am enjoying the Nana bludgers (62mm 82a). You might also try Powell Peralta G-bones. Or Ricta clouds 92a

[@stefanschlueter3956]

I always ride my CX without any risers, by that it's probably quite near to the height of c5 with 2 risers. Does Someone know the height (measured) of c5 and cx?

[@muckeyn]

Difference is about 20mm. I need a 6mm riser with softer bushings and 56mm wheels to avoid wheelbite on the c5.

[@starcinema2846]

I really thought about taking C5 over CX for my custom board for Skateparks and bowls. But I decided for CX because they are wider and C5 might be too narrow for a 10+” board don’t you think?

[@shanelai2515]

Personal preference I think. If it's just carving in the bowl, both can do the work but CX will give a better surfy feel

[@unknown20-x6k]

Which wheels do you use?

[@chrisz.9974]

Would you say the c5 are comfortable to push if needed? I’m looking for a cruiser that I can also pump and turn more that your standard skateboard truck. I currently have c7s on a Carver Knox deck.

[@shanelai2515]

Yeah C5 is great at that

[@mountsnowdon78]

little loop goes a long way

[@hugoblanco2025]

adiciona ao titulo comparação trucks c5 e cx. top ;)

[@marsmachine1156]

The review I have been waiting for (and somehow missed it 😂) I wanted to get this for bowl riding as C5 and sick Santa Cruz design but the concave is meh 😕. I ride YOW now and love it, I want to get something more skatey. What about the kingpin issue? Any of you prefer CX over C5 for bowl? Might order a separate deck instead. Thanks!

[@otteirad]

Amazing review Shane. Top quality!! Final comparison c5 vs cx is very explicative and clear!! Thanks!

[@hiphopgirl9605]

Great video Shane! Actually I'm used to surfskate with Carver CX trucks. However, since I tend more and more to push beside pumping, I realized that a truck with a lower height would be more appropriate for my needs. Do you know by chance whether there are further trucks like the C5 trucks, with a similar low height, on the market which you could recommend? Would be interesting, thank you in advance!

[@shanelai2515]

SOLRIDE surfskate is killing it at the moment. Check them out 🤙

[@ConreteOceanz]

great comparison with the side by side. I just got C5 trucks.... 🤙🤙

[@7teen10]

Hi Shane, congrates on your surf skating ability and channel. I'm 64 and surfskating with my daughter on her Slide trucks. I had a CX copy but am thinking of the C5 as I am very tentitive in the skate park but want to improve, so maybe the lower lighter setup will help (possible purchase Santa Cruz Screaming hand) Whats your thoughts? Also when there are comments about slow pumping on a C5 is this just on the flat and are they that much slower than the CX?

[@valeka2]

Hey Shane. Have you tried those CX trucks on the screaming hand? Also, you can revert/invert the kingpin for safer grindings kzbin.infoUgkxarwx_IrEk2W1APH-smSIzS7Nva89M0p0

[@haha5809]

I have the same board but why cant i do tricks , before i had popsicles o did great after 5 years i bought cruiser sta cruz and i cant do a thing i almost became a begginer

[@RLLLx]

are you in Australia?

[@shanelai2515]

Yeah. Melbourne

[@zhuoyihu8544]

Is C5 more comparable to independent stage 4 bridges?

[@ksfwfc2899]

Stuff that wheel bite

[@muckeyn]

Shane, I saw you have c5’s on your SC slasher setup too. Did those come with a flipped kingpin and barrel boardside bushings? The c5s on the screaming hand I got are cone/cone and right side up kingpin. I was surprised the hanger doesn’t clear it!? Also, is it possible to wheelbite with the spitfire wheels?

[@shanelai2515]

That was an older C5 that I inverted the kingpin myself. And I can't remember what bushings setup it came with now. Yeah without risers and loose truck, it's definitely possible to get wheelbite. But also depends if you carve deep on flat

[@muckeyn]

@@shanelai2515 ah, I’ll have to invert it for clearance then. Have to figure out the ideal bushing setup first. Seems like minimal room to increase lean and avoid wheelbite unless you downsize wheels. 60mm are a challenge for me.