Sanyo VTC5000 junker. Can we fix it?

[@frankowalker4662]

One place I was working at had loads of boards, mechanisms and cases for this model, they were going to throw them all out into a skip. I asked them if I could stay late for a few days and try to build a full machine. They said I can have a week to do what I want on my own time. I managed to make two of them. I was so pleased with myself. They both broke down after about 6 years. Great VCR though.

[@Asiertxu1974]

This is the very first video that my parents bought back in the 80s.

[@jamesbennettmusic]

We've seen Sanyo, and decided... Love their stuff and their level-headedness in how they engineer. Mine needed a full recap on the power supply and servo board, it is prone to the black streaking but I always put that down to old tapes. Maybe one day I'll keep an eye out for a head disk

[@davidfarrell7318]

really interesting i love to see these wonderful old machines

[@alphabeets]

Wonderful video. It’s great that you kept another machine out of the trash bin.

[@Petertronic]

This was my first video recorder, the sound of the mechanism is always nostalgic. I never touched the head drum on mine, it's always quite delicate to deal with a head disk so good job getting this working!

[@video99couk]

The mechanisms were a bit noisy on these, but surely the most reliable mechanism of all time. Beyond belts and idlers and the occasional reel motor, I don't think I've ever had one before with serious mechanical issues.

[@metchak]

Hello. I'm following your channel for a long time. You are doing amazing jobs. Greetings from Türkiye. 👋

[@zhaohaigaogu7821]

It was very well done and wonderful. Great success! 👏👏👏

[@1914grant]

I seem to collect Sanyo Vtc 5000s I`m also very proud to own a 5150 great work Colin

[@elvisdolan]

That was so satisfying. Thanks!

[@jkmac625]

About 20-25 years ago I came across one of these with badly worn video heads. Picture was full of those black streaks on the highlights and lots of dropouts. What I did discover is it would work perfectly with a Metal (BetaSP) cassette, not sure why that would be other than the tape being of higher quality. I do remember someone saying when video heads wear you need to reduce the record current to the heads, so maybe there was too much RF during record and the Metal tape formulation coped better, in the same way as Metal audio cassette can be driven at higher levels before the tape magnetically saturates.

[@video99couk]

I suspect that BetacamSP tapes would have further accelerated the head wear, but a nice short term solution.

[@more.power.]

Nice work Colin thank you.

[@Ashley_Sowerby]

For those curious, the film on the screen from 23:08 to 24:40 is Roger Christian’s “The Sender” (1982)

[@kelvinhoughton7953]

I used to fix them years ago and I think that extra black wire was a common addition to reduce noise, sadly I don't remember the details although it may have been something to do with using vcrs on the shelf provided under tvs. Most common problem under g'tee was mains fuse blown which was caused by the capacitor on the mains input, many of our branches exchanged the units so we had a massive pile of returns to Sanyo with blown mains fuse, as far as I know they were not repaired, servo faults on that board you exchanged were also common. I'm a bit lazy I probably would have swaped out the whole head drum assy. If I recall correctly they retailed around £325 which was around £50 lower than the cheapest VHS which was probably the Sharp 9300 or its later varients (381 ?). The Sanyo VTC5000 was also small compared with Sony C5,6 and 7s at the same time although the SLC9 was also around but initially over £800 which was a lot of money back then.

[@video99couk]

My first video recorder was a Sanyo VTC5150 which cost £249 from Comet. They were selling like hot cakes. I later modified that one with a wired remote control. My next video recorder was a Sanyo VTC-M40 Beta HiFi which was on special offer in Comet at £299, a machine I still own, but the one model of Sanyo machine which would get through heads. There was a lot of Sony stuff in the Sanyo Beta HiFi models.

[@crashbandicoot4everr]

I added that extra wire on my VTC 5350 to fix a earthing issue that caused white streaks to appear in the picture. It worked and the streaks went away.

[@boredwithusernames]

I actually owned to 5000 model back in the day, Beta always did have a better quality picture due to the sheer amount of tape that was in contact with the head drum ;) I also remember working briefly for a company that serviced them. This brings back fond memories. Am I right in saying that the flat square sensor with the white/red-stripe and white wires sat on top of the head drum at 12:40 is a dew sensor? It would stop the tape from lacing up if the heads were damp if I remember correctly because if it didn't the tape would stick to the rotating drum and things would go horribly wrong from that point with some very nasty tearing and crunching noises ensuing. Great video as always, thanks for sharing this one, reminds me of better days ;)

[@Petertronic]

Yes it's the dew sensor. Normally they are smaller and in a more inconspicuous place!

[@boredwithusernames]

@@PetertronicThanks, I thought I remembered it right ;)

[@Ashley_Sowerby]

Often wanted to acquire one of these but am quite wary of the supposedly “serviced” decks going for astronomical amounts on eBay, have been let down in the past by less than honest eBayers (“It was working b4 I sent it!!!) doubt most of the decks on eBay will have been as thoroughly investigated as the example featured here, thoroughly enjoyable video BTW.

[@Petertronic]

Yes I have also seen beta machines on ebay at very silly prices

[@TTVEaGMXde]

The Sanyo VTC 5000 was the first "affordable" VCR in the UK and VHS recorders were easy to rent. SONY didn't want to see its devices with a rental company label. I first check with a paper handkerchief soaked in denatured alcohol to see if I can feel when the heads of the drum/disc pass my finger. If not, I'll just clean the device for the eBay photos. "Untested" found device.

[@video99couk]

Rental companies certainly stocked the Sanyo machines too, I've seen a few ex-rental VTC5000's over the years. From memory I think I saw an ex-rental Sony beta too once.

[@TTVEaGMXde]

@@video99couk I can no longer check that in Hamburg. The lack of SONY in the rental business was THE argument at Techmoan why the video stores got out. In 1984 all host families in Hastings had Betamax recorders, in 1985 in Winchester I only saw VHS devices among the host families. During my student internship in 1985, a PHILIPS Video 2000 recorder was only supposed to be delivered as a reserve device.

[@crashbandicoot4everr]

What an excellent job! Do you happen to have a spare head disk for a VTC 9300 or 5500/5600? All those three models use the same disk.

[@frankowalker4662]

Great fix. I have to say though the best model was the one with reverse play.

[@video99couk]

Yes the VTC5150 was the better model.

[@richrootes]

Nicely done, Colin! Did you work out what all the spurious jumper wires were doing?

[@video99couk]

No, once I saw them there was no reason for me to work further on that panel. It's possible that they were just repairs after some capacitors had been changed and traces lifted.

[@JerrySpann-fn4kw]

We purchased this exact deck in November of 1984 for $199.99.

[@video99couk]

That was a good price, probably because the later (VTC5150 or similar) model had been out for a while.

[@paulb4uk]

The sanyo,s always have good heads sanyo unlacing the tape for rewind and fast forward was something Sony should have done .I have a Sony c7 my dad got from a radio fair for £5 with a few tapes and three service manual. It has good heads just common faults and three timer does not work no doubt to battery or cap time backup.

[@video99couk]

The clock setting buttons fail and jam up on the C7, very common cause of clock malfunctions.

[@paulb4uk]

@@video99couk None of those buttons work all need changing .

[@흑석김용호]

I think I should keep the STK Power IC...

[@video99couk]

The STK power chips don't fail terribly often in these Sanyo machines. They do however fail a lot more in Sony machines of the same vintage.

[@crashbandicoot4everr]

@@video99coukOut of curiosity, why does the machine you worked on have red lettering on the STK IC? Never seen that before.

[@tremorist]

In Germany these were sold under the Fisher brand. We had one when I was a kid.

[@crashbandicoot4everr]

They were also sold in the Middle East, the VBS-7500PS being a clone of the VTC 5350 PAL/SECAM machine.

[@TTVEaGMXde]

There are also plenty of Sanyo VTC 5XXX on eBay Germany.

[@danielbrown7593]

Me encanta las máquinas Betamax,tengo modelos cómo el c9,f30 sl hf950.

[@rs2klee]

hi, what are you using to display the test card colours ? :)

[@video99couk]

The GTH ACE digital timebase corrector, I've done a KZbin video about that.

[@gordon3178]

when playing origionals tapes the head and sound alignment are ok but when playing tapes recorded on different machines they have a tendancy to have picture and audio low as this was happening to me since recording on different machines as the head and audio are not all aligned the same from 1980 onwards

[@dannyjaar]

what do you ask for it i wanna have this sanyo to watch my famillievideos back

[@rsuryase]

Do SONY beta VCRs have DOC adjustment too?

[@video99couk]

Yes, you will be able to find reference to that in the service manual for each model.

[@danielboguse4249]

It's bay ta not bee ta lol

[@video99couk]

Not in the UK it isn't.

[@DavidMander-rs4uk]

Why bother with that museum piece 😆🤷‍♂️

[@video99couk]

Because working Betamax machines are worth more than VHS. There are still huge amounts of Beta tapes out there to be recovered.

[@kevinkerr9275]

Betamax is osblese you can't even get cassettes for them anymore but with vhs vcrs you can still cassettes

[@davidwilliams2840]

There's a large selection of betaMax tapes on eBay just like VHS so you're comment is pointless

[@gideon3648]

I think Sony only stopped selling blank Betamax tapes in Japan in 2015. The format was supported much longer than many think.

[@crashbandicoot4everr]

@@gideon3648Plus you can use regular oxide Betacam tapes on a Betamax VCR without any problem.

[@plesio2830]

most selling was beta because VHS didn't exist

[@video99couk]

Really? Have a think about that.