SAR K12 Sport X (High Value Competition King)

[@ricoreyes6578]

I believe SARSILMAZ is one of the few if not the only company that purchased the right from CZ to copy their model.. I love the k2 14rd .45acp and takes para ordnance mags..good vid most people are sleeping on this Brand..

[@IvanRiveraStagea]

I believe they licensed Tanfoglio's design, not CZ's. Tanfos and CZs may look the same but the internals are a bit different.

[@user-un5my5bw4j]

​@IvanRiveraStagea thats 100% true, all Tanfoglio did was basically clone the frame itself. Other than that made many improvements over the CZ 75 and shadow as well as TS2. Especially with Tanfoglio using stainless swaged match barrels with polygonal rifling making them insanely accurate. I have two Tanfoglio stocklll designs a Defiant Limited Master 9mm large frame, and a Defiant Limited Xtreme .38super. Awsome pistols. I wouldn't mind trying the K12 sport x for the price though

[@IvanRiveraStagea]

@@user-un5my5bw4j Yup! I own both Tanfoglios and CZs. They have a lot of similarities mechanically but the parts, retaining mechanisms, etc. are quite a bit different. Tanfoglio actually made 75-derived race guns first back in the 80s; CZ only followed suit well after the Soviet collapse.

[@brandonlind5700]

Sar 2000s and k12s are tangfoglio copies that are better then the original. Tangfoglio is a Cz 75 copy with a bit of sig 210 put into it so it’s a bit of hybrid design. Tangfoglio is a great design but the company’s execution of the design is but sub par. Tangfoglio uses a great design but relatively sub par quality materials. Sarsilmaz took the great tangfoglio design and made pistols with excellent material quality. The barrels, slides and frames are all hammer forged, Cz doesn’t even hammer forge their frames. Modern all non custom shop Cz frames are quality cast frames. SARS are probably the highest quality all steel factory production Cz inspired design on the market. They’re cheaper simply because of the volume they produce for other countries and because the cost of labor is cheaper I imagine where they are produced.

[@morningandafternoonsun]

I have a K2, K2C, and CZ 97B. I love Sar I think it’s a quality handgun but it just doesn’t come close to the overall construction of the 97 and both the K2 and k2c jam often if you’re not constantly polishing the feed ramp ramp. I never have that issue with the 97.

[@TheColosiss]

I've had my Sar K2 45 for 7 years. Put nearly 2 thousand rounds of factory and about 2 of reloads... Fantastic. I plink with my Canik TP9sfx more, but my Sar is my go-to .45 when I'm itching for something more than my 115gr plinker.

[@TheColosiss]

@user-tu6fy7kr1y 312 including shipping. It is a 1st gen import so it has SARSILMAZ plastered all over the poor thing in about 7 different ways. The feed ramp and cam grove needed to be polished out of the box. The crown on the barrel also had a slight nick out of the box that I alleviated. No biggie. The K2 uses the same profile magazine as the Para P14 double-stack 1911 magazines. They just use a different follower. So mags are easily sourced. The only issue I've had was the elevation screw for the rear sight snapped off in the cold one time. I was out running drills in Oregon in about 30 degree weather and the screw just snapped.

[@TheColosiss]

@user-tu6fy7kr1y Their machining quality has come a long way so 600 is still a good price. The newer ones have less tooling marks and the QC seems to be squared away. I appreciate how they removed 5 of the SAR logos that were bordering obnoxious.

[@ricoreyes6578]

Mine was almost 8 years ago it has cocoa beach , flo on it . Best double stack acp other than para ordinance P14 which was the first double stack .45 1911. Made in the 90s if I am correct .. my friend got that as soon as it came out.. 7 bills for it back then .. also the FN 15rd 45acp has the most rd but it's polymer not steel.and bigger.

[@chuckr5929]

I love my SAR handguns, quality, fun to shoot, accurate, and great price points.

[@deejaybriez2341]

I have had mine for about 3 months now.....1k rounds later, guys you will be shocked at how small your groups are ( if you do your part), at 10- 25 yards!

[@wayzooted]

Hopefully the next variant includes DA/SA, Rail and maybe optic cut.

[@FuzedBox]

It was the LACK of rail that led me to purchase this. I've owned a Shadow 2, currently have a SP-01 Competition Blue, Jericho 941F BDEIII, and now this one on the way. All of those have rails. I bought this gun purely for its price and aesthetics. Rails are ugly.

[@wayzooted]

@@FuzedBox I really like Sar. I don't own a k12 yet but probably will eventually.

[@FuzedBox]

@@wayzooted Very late response here, but it's a good pistol. At a glance it's absolutely beautiful, but when you start inspecting it closer... you can tell that the machining was rushed. If I was a QC manager at their plant, I would have rejected my slide. They made quite a few cosmetic mistakes that luckily do not affect function. The trigger is certainly not in the same league as $1200+ competition pistol triggers, but it's definitely better than most duty triggers. It could benefit from a shorter reset and 1lb shave off the break. The front post is on the worse side of meh. It really needed fiber optic, and it's too wide for a true competition sight. It's more difficult to acquire than it should be, and renders the benefit of blacked-out rears moot. Chunky black on black is fine for a .22 Ruger pistol, but there's no excuse for it here. I think this pistol would be better if they had stuck with a DA/SA trigger setup instead of hopping on the SA competition bandwagon, just to half-ass it. It's still better than average. What really sours me is that I ordered a Grand Power K100 ($400) on the same day that I ordered this, and that DA/SA trigger has quite possibly the best SA break and reset out of ANY DA/SA pistol I own. Yes, even better than the CZs. It raised the bar and proved what could be done economically. This means that an GP X-Calibur Match is in my future. These criticisms might seem harsh, but they're honest. Overall it's still a bargain. I really do like the pistol; the performance that you're getting for the money is incredible. It's accurate, reliable, ergonomic, has great finish, and it has unique aesthetics not found anywhere else. I do not regret purchasing the K12 Sport X and I won't be selling it. It's good for the price, it's really fun to shoot, and it's an interesting conversation piece.

[@donwright7694]

Appreciate what you do. Knowledge is key. Solid video all around. Great info.

[@1AFVeteran]

Nice looking gun but the sights could definitely be improved and maybe the next model will be optics ready.

[@micahdunleavy9227]

You can get the shadow 2 for like 900-1000… I’d spend the xtra sheckles but this is a pretty nice looking forearm for the price..

[@dennislawson7306]

Idk it’s kinda hairy 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@l337l0gan]

In my experience, I'd spend the extra and get the shadow 2. But if you would've asked me 5 years ago, I would go for the sars.

[@masonwhitlow4298]

I was told the k12 blows the shadow2 out of the water and for $400 less. I was told Cz makes shit guns that are overpriced. Sar fan boys are a different breed. Lol. Why would you prefer a gun with a heavier not as smooth trigger, awful iron sights, and no optics cut just to save a few hundred bucks? There’s a reason the Turkish cloned the k12 after the 75 series. I picked up a sar9 for my truck gun bc it was $500 and holds 19 rounds. But dang when I pulled that trigger I was so disgusted. So $100 later in a trigger and spring upgrade, I have a striker fired sar9 that now has an acceptable trigger. But stock for stock the Cz p10 destroys the sar9.

[@5nyper]

you should've went for canik as your tuck gun, their mete trigger is phenomenal@@masonwhitlow4298

[@smokum7]

That's a good looking cz clone, I'm a big fan of tanfoglio to👍

[@30rdMAGA-vl9ul]

That pistol looks nice! I found one on gun broker for $699

[@katanapr3]

The Sar K12 sport like most DA/SA pistols that Sarsilmaz produced are Tanfoglio clones. The Sar K12 is a direct clone of Tanfoglio Limited, you can use Tanfoglio parts to make it a really good shooter. LOK grips makes grips that fit the K12, Dawson Presision have fiber optic front sight that will work with some fitting. Also Patriot Defence can cut the slide to fit a red dot and is very affordable. I own 4 Sarsilmaz and they all perform great as well as my Tanfoglios.

[@acehighflyer123]

I am a fan of both as well.

[@brandonlind5700]

Also it’s worth noting unlike a cz shadow, cz 75 that has a cast frame, although well done cats frame, the k12 and sar 2000 has a hammer forged frame

[@Tennessee_est1983]

We had one of these in our shop awhile back and it felt like a solid gun! Being that it’s a CZ75 clone it should be! Keep up the great work man!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@bfish9700]

The shadow 2 we have at home lol I used to want one of these, but I'm waiting on the girsan 2311 for my next turkish gun.

[@LightofRyga]

Same, but where are they? They said April at Shot Show.

[@ert-7112]

I wish the release a full size and a compact with rail, thanks for the video 👍

[@mrshort2379]

great content awesome review: now that Sar K12 Sport X is🔥

[@moemaster1966]

Looks a lot like my old school Jericho baby eagle..if it’s half as nice as that it should be a awesome handgun…I want one!

[@IvanRiveraStagea]

Both have shared roots; they are licensed Tanfoglio designs.

[@mikereese15]

Had my eyes on this one for a while now. Need to get it.

[@molonlabe6352]

I've been eyeballing this one for awhile now.

[@plantguy100]

I'm a SAR fan too. Aside from the slide vents, what are the differences between the standard K12 Sport and the X Model? The standard one also has what appears to be an add on magwell.

[@mehmet284]

amazing accurate sarsilmaz k12

[@JWhitesAZone]

I have a sar k2 45 I just got that needs a new rear sight, but I cannot find anything outside of a red dot plate from Galloway precision. Don't really want a dot on it though.

[@jimchambers7548]

Nice pistol, i was looking at a K12 in 45acp a while back but couldn't get it. Great video

[@seang1032]

It's a good looking gun but as mentioned, the cz shadow 2 is 950 at my lgs right now. I feel like firearms prove that the originals are better than the clones or look-a-likes. I feel like this could be a glock/dagger video. Very similar and lower price but one has a solid track record and the other has pins that walk out. Only time will tell

[@henrycalhoun5809]

Great intro of shooting

[@chrismartinelli9153]

Will the SAR k12 10 round mags fit into the CZ Shadow 2?

[@jagpilotohio]

Nice looking piece. Flat shooter. But WTF is going on with those grip panels? I do t think I’ve ever seen such slick and weirdly shaped grip panels.

[@huntgar]

They look like he swapped em from a cyberpunk pistol🤣

[@NocoYeti]

If they put a rail on any of their steel framed 9mm id be all over it.

[@ert-7112]

100% agreed

[@georgeaura]

Man that thing is awesome

[@Scott079]

I would actually prefer a double single action trigger

[@latrontreeellis]

Man I love your videos but I have a question about this gun. If this gun is well balanced and accurate while shooting it, why wouldn't it be a good idea for conceal carry?

[@FuzedBox]

Dude, this thing is twice the weight of a Glock 19 and much chunkier, along with ginormous gas pedal ambi-safety. There are literally zero IWB holsters being made for this unless you make one yourself, and trust me, you better be wearing a damned tight belt because it'll yank your pants off. Totally different MO. You want a CZ pattern carry gun? Get the new Shadow 2 carry (which is still a chonky boy).

[@scaleworksRC]

Clean pistol!

[@thirdeyevision3584]

Can you put the sar p8l ported barrel??

[@michaelthrelkeld212]

It doesn’t look like those side panels would give you much grip

[@731trident]

That's because the slide rides in the frame, not over it.

[@michaelthrelkeld212]

@@731trident just curious what does that have to do with the grip?

[@archer7153]

Witness grips are compatible.

[@RichardRichardson-dp1lu]

When the slide rides in the frame, it shoots flatter. Therefore, there’s not much recoil

[@RichardRichardson-dp1lu]

And the weight of it helps the recoil as well. The grips work great with the overall ergonomics of the gun. I have 25ish handguns, and this is one of my top 5 most accurate and ergonomic guns

[@georgeaura]

Are there accessories or grips for it, like I have seen that if you want more weight to a gun you can get brass grips, I was just wondering if there are things like that for this?

[@wayzooted]

yes, Tangfolio. some vids on youtube about interchangeability.

[@joshg0h79]

I love mine. Fell on hard times and I sold my sp01 (not my k12). Only need front fiber optic and extended mag plates. Super accurate and fast. Any options on trigger upgrades?

[@oddballgunman5288]

You can get a spring kit for around $36 and improve the trigger tremendously! Galloway Precision produces the best on the market. Put one in my Car 2000 and it shoots almost as smooth as a Shadow 2

[@R3spectTheV3t]

It’s between $750-800 dollars … you’re welcome.. really wish he began with the price point

[@RESENHADOATIRADOR]

Comprei a minha hoje mas infelizmente as leis sobre armas no Brasil e bem diferente... Entre a autorização de compra do exército, apostilamento no CR de atirador esportivo, Craf e guia de trânsito levará ente seis a nove meses para que eu possa levar minha K12 pra casa. A ansiedade está me matando 😂😂😅

[@agapitobatongbakal2313]

Compared it with RIA 5.0e

[@lexlane9353]

I want it!

Shot flat!

[@jagpilotohio]

SA shadow 2 is on sale everywhere for $999. I’d do a CZ for the extra cash but for $700 that seems like a good deal

[@georgeaura]

It looks like a cz

[@agapitobatongbakal2313]

Cz or Tanfoglio clone

[@kanitsomarkos]

Turkey AGAIN.... copy paste!!!!

[@Gearedweird22]

Looks just like a 90’s IMi Jericho!

[@heinrichgegenalles]

It looks like a CZ 75 Tactical Sports clone , but with nice slide cuts and better grips :)

[@IvanRiveraStagea]

Same trigger guard but the internals are patterned after the Tanfoglio Limited