everything wrong with dolls kill

[@smoretwink555]

I'm so tired of literal giant corporate brands claiming that they're anarchist somehow. Like, you're *heavily* participating in capitalism with your expensive ass, branded clothes. You can't have it both ways. Anarchism is not an aesthetic lmao.

[@sarahhawkinson]

👏👏👏

[@aspannas]

Yeah everything about these brands contradicts the whole meaning of what anarchism is about, lol I love your profile pic btw

[@Froggele]

I also laughed because she tried to connect anarchy to a photo of the police... like whaaat?!

[@gross_punk9539]

Yeah, I had to laugh with her apology.

[@EjvindGEMDark]

@VALERIA LATORRE AHUMADA Anarcho-capitalism isn't actually anarchism though - "ancaps" use the term anarchy to mean "no government", whereas every other anarchist uses it to mean "no hierarchy". Capitalism is in itself a hierarchical system - and so being an "ancap" is an oxymoron. They can be right libertarians, but don't let them try to convince you they share any similarities with actual anarchists when they prop up a system built on class divide.

[@morbidbunny3324]

The one thing I want to point out is that SugarPillsClth is NOT the same company as Sugarpill Cosmetics. The clothing is a completely different company that sells poor, cheap quality clothing on Dolls Kill while Sugarpill Cosmetics is an absolutely amazing brand/company.

[@LadyBloodyWrists]

They at one point even stole sugarpill cosmetics' old logo

[@strawberrybird7319]

Thank you! I was confused about that, because I thought the cosmetic company was pretty good.

[@abigaileldritch]

Also Sugarpill cosmetics is spelled this way plz edit for further distinction

[@cici39177]

Isn’t the clothing called Sugar Thrillz? I feel like they are pretty affordable and the quality is decent for what you pay for...But to each their own.

[@DesireeEvans15]

Cosmetologeek two different brands

[@READYTOGLARE]

Oh my god that email made me want to retract into myself

[@sarahhawkinson]

the amount of cringe I felt reading it out loud...

[@flamejob4260]

it sounds like a fifteen year old on stan twitter lmao

[@Luvandrockettes]

i love you GC 🥺♥️

[@allisonnicole1659]

I froze up and stopped breathing for a sec it was nothing but cringe

[@izzbee_florp9482]

@Mia Alexandria Huh?

[@alassso]

given her popularity it’s surprises me how nobody talks about when dollskill straight up stole from bella/internetgirl. they had a relationship for a long time and eventually even sold bella’s igirl pendants on their website. but only a couple months later the pendants were off the website and instead they were selling a rip-off of bella’s she devil pendant and earrings. she’s said she doesn’t have a relationship with them anymore and no longer puts their items in her depop bundles. when it happened i couldn’t even believe how they’d even steal from someone they had such a good relationship with. they have no limits.

[@LadyBloodyWrists]

The Bei Badgirl, Nikki Lipstick and Gitsie Wood situation was enough for me to be turn away from them. Even more considering how they were gaslighted and mocked for calling out Dollskill.

[@v.anessa1451]

wow i didn't even know that! that's so frickin shameful, they're a million dollar fast fashion label and they stole from an independent seller. wtf

[@ItsBrejahnia]

They stole from me I created a heart bra. And it was up on their site and I also had a relationship with them! I was promoting for 6 months then I found that out and ended our contract.

[@Aster_Risk]

@@ItsBrejahnia Dude, I'm sorry. That is garbage.

[@starylize]

bella steals a lot from others as well, which is why i think she deleted her tweets about dolls kill stealing her jewelry-because people were calling her out for it in the replies. they’re both at fault, and i am not trying to take away the attention from bella because what dolls kill did was wrong, but bella isn’t innocent. if you look up igirl or bella in reddit there are a lot of threads explaining how’s she stolen from others. not trying to make you feel bad, just want you to be in the know as well!

[@idkilikeeggos5261]

I hate the whole “for people who don’t dress like everyone else” thing. Like, we’re all different. Everyone has their own style. Dressing edgy doesn’t make you better than anyone else.

[@theunknown760]

True

[@eviileee7945]

lmao i get what your saying but not everyone that dressed edgy is like that lol

[@annajastrzebska9218]

@@eviileee7945 where did they say that everyone dressing edgy acts like that lol. they're talking about the brand/shop

[@idkilikeeggos5261]

Orange Juice That’s definitely not what I meant! I love edgy fashion and know a lot of cool people who are into it, I just dislike how this particular brand just grouped everyone else’s style into one category.

[@idkilikeeggos5261]

Nemus Crawlingfoot Maybe that’s how they like to dress. And you don’t take into account the countless other styles people have. It’s not only edgy and then everyone else.

[@geenicah]

The other issue with the statement about the "goth is white" shirt is that they're basically saying "well we didn't intend it to be racist so if it had that impact it's not our problem." I'm going to paraphrase from Rachel Cargle, who is a lecturer who educates on anti-racism: If you accidentally step on someone's foot, don't you still apologize? Why? Because the impact is that they're in pain, even if the intent was not to hurt anyone. Editing this to add that if you're arguing over whether the t-shirt was intended to be racist or not, you didn't read my comment. I was explaining how the "apology" and how the statement "I didn't intend to hurt anyone," was irrelevant. If people from the Black community are saying they were hurt by it, just say "I'm sorry, and I'll do better." Why does it matter what your intentions are? Centering your intentions is making it all about you instead of the apology. The end result is still hurt, and if you aren't part of the community being hurt, you have no right to say if they're allowed to be hurt or not.

[@mewmew6158]

Wonderful way to think :)

[@katie_a1075]

And to elaborate on that, the “goth is white” explanation makes no sense. They said in their response that they were trying covey that goth isn’t just black clothes, so why not say “goth is all colors” or “goth is a rainbow” or some other cheesy line?

[@BooksToAshes]

People are also really touchy these days. If it said "Goth is Black" would people be upset? I dunno. It's just really weird to me how easily people get upset these days, enough to cancel tv shows and being upset at a cartoon character from Paw Patrol lol. In context, I don't see a huge issue but I kind of get why it might sound wrong (and since Dolls Kill is known for issues I wouldn't be surprised if it was a racist shirt).

[@AnnaHeey]

@@BooksToAshes i get that you're annoyed by people being overly sensitive. But this shirt is a different story. The Goth Style is often associated with a very pale, white skin, which is the reason why people think of skin color when they see the phrase "goth is white". Which is quite racist if that was what they meant, as no style should be defined by your skin color. If it said "goth is black" people would associate it with the colour of the clothing. The phrases "goth is white" and "goth is black" are totally different in the way that it comes across.

[@AnnaHeey]

@Winter Wonder The Goth Style is often associated with a very pale, white skin, which is the reason why people think of skin color when they see the phrase "goth is white". Because in the goth style, what could be white? Oh yeah, skin colour. Which is quite racist if that was what they meant, as no style should be defined by your skin color. If it said "goth is black" people would associate it with the colour of the clothing, as goth style is defined by the black clothing. The phrases "goth is white" and "goth is black" are totally different in the way that it comes across. Not everyone thinks the same as you. Some of us did make the connection with skin colour, without being racist ourselves.

[@audidoddy]

Theyre the people who get more offended by being CALLED Racist rather than BEING racist

[@Alonepistachio]

audi leigh i dont know, I was once called a racist for being a white girl dating a black man, that was very confusing to me and a bit offensive to say that “mixing” like they put it is cultural appropriation. That was just weird

[@fredmachine6039]

literally no one cares

[@agstinacueva1673]

honestly nowadays considering how sensitive the situation is people are going off and calling everybody racist, not all people, but some are just hopping on cancel culture based on nothing.

[@Alonepistachio]

A exactly!

[@TR-qh9eg]

they weren't racist tho not even once

[@Jennifermarie493]

I love how dolls kill is where all the girls who bullied me in school for being "emo" / alternative wanna shop at now to be trendy and edgy lmaooo

[@everythingsbetterwithbread]

Has A mmhmm but we all know what the E in e-girl stands for 🙄

[@annieenglish2933]

Jenn for real dollskill is just brandy Melville for people who want to be alt

[@DoodleDoo2]

Annie English oop 👀

[@steinistein8611]

Exactly lmao

[@hollycomulada1924]

Honestly this is so true, although there’s nothing wrong with liking e-girl/ alt type of style as long as your a good person ya know

[@mothmallowgirl2758]

Finally someone who talks about this and explains what’s going on. All I see on the internet is comments that don’t explain anything. Thank you so much. 🖤

[@ghostorii646]

I've had a few people ask me what's so wrong with them and I would give some info but also told them hey just look it up man, this stuff is everywhere but we still need more info spread

[@damnbro_idc]

Imo Emily Boo has made some good videos. Also stitchess

[@Shelly-ny3ki]

many people made videos about this....

[@carleed5824]

Also forgot to talk about how the “Dead Girls Cant Say No” t shirt promotes necrophilia......was this Ted Bundy’s idea to make this tshirt? Edit: thank you for the likes! Never thought my most liked comment would ever involve necrophilia though 🙈

[@lisamariejo.7011]

jesus christ, that's so fucking gross. they can't even defend that one because there isn't even a different meaning than the obvious, disgusting one.

[@johannaweigelt9163]

Aaand rape in general

[@user-ld6wx2my1t]

@@renee1072 Yeah I mean I'm sure some people bought that shirt and I just wanna know what kind of person sees a shirt that says "Dead Girls Can't Say No" and thinks oh yes that's the one I'm gonna spend my money on that lol.

[@adinamusrepova1447]

5:27

[@retired9685]

She did mention it...

[@mollys7383]

The "portion of proceeds" part is shady because it shifts responsibility from Dolls Kill to the consumer. Basically what they're saying is "Ok we will support black owned brands, but only if YOU buy their products from our site." Yikes

[@doubleh333lix]

Molly Scarborough they did also donate a shit ton of money and are matching all employee donations 100%, it just wasn’t covered in this video.

[@AuloraRaven]

thrashing pumpkins send link to article about wut ur saying bc i doubt dolls kill is doing anything nice unless it benefits them

[@im_a_chair5556]

That's a good point. I didn't think of it that way

[@kellythackeray6237]

Dolls kill is the Brandy Melville of alt fashion

[@Candy-fd7lb]

omg yesssss

[@deadchannel3610]

its run by goth regina george

[@caitlingill]

@@deadchannel3610 isn’t Janis Ian basically a goth Regina George except she’s unpopular 😂

[@anubishouseable]

the camera is DETERMINED to get that blanket in focus instead of her

[@sarahhawkinson]

ugh trust me it was so annoying editing this video 🙄

[@ineedouterspace]

her voice sped up like this gives me “the VOLUME in This Bus is ASTRONOMICAL” vibes

[@weewooweewoo906]

LOL

[@user-dt7ur1br7y]

literally thooo

[@amystravinski1095]

How are the clips of the founder talking sped up :D It still feels sooooooo slow. Just say what you have to say, no need for all those super dramatic pauses. It seems like she's trying to make it sound extra meaningful.

[@sarahhawkinson]

I literally thought that when I was editing like do I speed it up MORE they’re still taking forever lol

[@beanie5487]

i have the video on 2× and it's still slower than i talk

[@tallmuch_]

@@TokioLotus i've been looking for this comment, thank you so much!

[@kristygirl98]

she sounds like a child trying to apologize with the sped up voice

[@v.anessa1451]

that explanation for the " goth is white" shirt .. ok 🙄 but wtf were they even going for with the "dead girls can't say no" shirt ??

[@pyroshayniac1090]

I can only assume to be edgy.

[@hannahmoorehughes]

hi i’m late but my guess is it’s a pseudo-woke statement saying “i can’t give consent if my life isn’t protected/i’m killed” but like. it still ABSOLUTELY reads like a threat.

[@lilyteegan]

They blamed their second company lol pathetic

[@RobynRissa]

DollsKill is shoddy, which is oddly fitting considering the owner.

[@stardusstie]

the whole "goth is white" thing just proves that they don't have a diverse enough team because only a white person could look at that phrase and say "there is no way anyone could misinterpret this to mean something else"

[@1.800zZzZzZz]

uhh no. anyone with more than two brain cells wouldn't go out of their way to make it about race when it's not:)

[@donyelledimples]

MR_BLITZ 1 then you, just like the people who approved and purchased this design, are both tone deaf and ignorant

[@stardusstie]

@@1.800zZzZzZz It was already about race when being goth was equated with having pale skin and then companies like Dolls Kill and Killstar hire almost exclusively light-complected models to further perpetuate the narrative. It's extremely easy to see why so many people would have interpreted it this way.

[@1.800zZzZzZz]

@@stardusstie that's not what the shirt said. also the main demographic of the people who shop for clothes like that are white people, just like how the main demographic of people who shop for brands like Jordan are black.

[@mariahcrane2000]

this!! i love this.

[@JessiQuinn]

i hate when people act like this is a "right now" issue as if people havent been trying to combat racism and police brutality forever

[@jokesonyou222]

Right

[@nickiblack5385]

I’m Romani and I’m sick of “Gypsy” costumes at Halloween and all the non-Romani individuals who are claiming to be a “free spirited gypsy”. I’ve talked to many people who are ignorant of the fact that “Gypsy” was originally a racial slur against the Romani people, or that “Gypsy” people are a different race (indo-aryan). Gypsy is not just a cool way to describe your free spirited lifestyle.

[@flamejob4260]

i'm not personally romani, but i totally agree with your comment - it's always bothered me that just casually use that racial slur like it's some cutesy clothing style tf

[@sarahschouveller1993]

Yes and when people use "gypped" to mean they got ripped off... gypped is a slang derived from gypsy. And not a nice one.

[@emily-wb4fv]

Yes! This is something that I feel more people need to be aware of!

[@elorarose3533]

I am not Romani but I always physically cringe when people call themselves a gypsy when they clearly don’t know what it means. I’m sorry you have to see that all the time. Also I’ve noticed in music the concept of “Gypsy” is used a lot as an aesthetic and it’s gross

[@kdnxnhdhdbfn2769]

What is Romani?

[@hdrip3097]

Current mood and Sugarthrillz are owned by Dollskill! So they are 100% the problem, they have absolutely no excuse. Love your videos 💕

[@solarsatori]

This! It literally says "by dolls kill" on the inside materials tags.

[@randomnameforarandomnerd8400]

thank goodness it was sugarthrillz, it sounded like homie was saying sugar pill- the makeup company. i was so scared :((

[@allisonnicole1659]

Sugarthrillz, Current Mood, poster girl, Club Exx, house of widow, Delias, and horrorscopez are all their brands! Brands that they sell but don’t own are things like the ragged priest, pleaser, fila, and kappa!

[@dabbunnymikaela]

Is omighty completely separate? Always thought they were connected

[@Chaoticpixie69]

@@dabbunnymikaela I know this comment is 4 months old lol but yes they have their own website

[@queenanacaona8531]

owner of large fast fashion brand claims 'strong connection to anarchist beliefs" lmao ok sweaty

[@wp7896]

aligns perfectly because her anarchist beliefs centre around her and not wider society. she explicitly said she believes in civil disobedience meaning not caring about society as a whole and prioritising yourself and your desires.

[@martinsaugustaf]

lol yessss that's what i thought

[@val77701]

Sweety *?

[@thomme8539]

Haha yup in that self centred self serving if you stop me from doing whatever I want to do then you're fascist kinda way :)

[@coyolxauhquipendejowey361]

@Duttkopf it’s supposed to be sweaty lmao

[@oonooooooooo]

its disgusting how many companies rip off indigenous designs for jewelry, fabric, etc. with strong cultural meaning (not even giving credit).

[@aufinsnirvana9990]

Your cat screaming no is iconic 😂

[@Bbummer]

Laura W also her loud neighbors. 😂

[@fp4093]

Could've made a shirt called "goth is pink" which fits even better because pink is the opposite of Gothic aesthetics however they choose the problematic way

[@Hetarotz]

As a punk/low-key goth I’d like that 👍💖

[@zebles200]

Even “goth is bright” would’ve fit what they were trying to portray way better and been much harder to misconstrue smh

[@kimmyymmik]

Nothing wrong with goth is white tho lol 😂

[@elenastennett8660]

@@kimmyymmik are you joking

[@metaphysicalmuse2773]

That would have been cute or “goth is rainbow” 🌈

[@arumasan6194]

Really glad YOU in particular made this video, since I know you've been vocal about fast fashion and ethical fashion/clothing in general for so long, you're the first person that got me to seriously look into this and watch the "True cost"

[@sarahhawkinson]

omg amazing! and yes I could NOT stay silent.

[@lookitskatiex]

I can’t even imagine being Native American or a First Nation person and hearing that nasty ass response. I don’t cancel easily (just depends on what it is, the response, and if there is change), but that should have been an instant canceling moment.

[@tomylovestacos]

Katie Marie 100% agree. Especially considering the fact that most natives don’t wear headdress like that period. Each feather must be earned and it is even considered disrespectful for us to wear them. Most are worn by chiefs and elders, the only people who could have earned all of those feathers.

[@aliceliardet6621]

they said 'it aint that serious, cutie'..... like headdress literally ARE serious parts of the culture and religion????

[@greta1115]

"Sorry if we offended you, we are just sassy" WHAT

[@DrCandyStriper]

@@tomylovestacos how does one earn feathers? Do you have any recommendations for further reading? I find it very fascinating and I'd like more decent information. ^^

[@tasheve3015]

cancelling doesn’t work anyway

[@leuvenfra]

next up: brandy melville!! not a single poc model on their website. and then obviously, there's the whole thing about their disgusting beauty standards

[@frankiebaxter2590]

*model of colour

[@morbidbunny3324]

"One size fits all" my ass 🙄

[@merrymermaid]

Morbidbunny3 they actually state “one size fits small” which imo is worse because it suggests that “small” is the only valid size

[@Shay45]

They don't want POC they want only skinny minor teenage white girls. Which makes them WAY more horrible.

[@LadyBloodyWrists]

They make shit for skinny white girls only, I wouldn't expect a cinch of sympathy from them

[@melloncollie3321]

Goth/grunge/alt girl here... And idek why anyone would make or buy the 'Goth is White' t-shirt... I mean who wouldn't think that's what it meant???? Also sometimes I looked like I walked straight out of Hot Topic and then other times I dress like an average Jane... Dude, if I want to be Ebony Darkness Dementia Way one day and a churchy looking girl the next, I know I can and don't need to assert this. I definitely don't need an overpriced t-shirt with racist undertones to advertise my autonomy lmao. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@catilena]

Exactly! Like yea a lot of my wardrobe Is black, but if I feel like wearing my flowery crop top I do that! I don't need a shirt with that message, esp. one with racist tones to it. Jeez. Also on another note completely: do you have any recommendations of places to shop alt styles? Most I find are either sketchy looking or just kinda old looking/tacky in their style.

[@melloncollie3321]

@@catilena Mostly I go for mainstream stuff: Hot Topic, Marshall's, TJ Maxx, Amazon, some thrift stores. My makeup is much more gothic looking than my outfit at any given time, - I generally don't dress too crazily. But you'd be surprised what gems you could find in places you don't expect!

[@steinistein8611]

@@catilena I usually buy somewhat basic clothes but style them goth like. Goth accessories make any outfit special, creepers, leather jacket with pins, you're good👌🏾

[@lettherebelightpink]

"I mean who wouldn't think that's what it meant????" - Someone who lived a fortunate enough life, to look at the words _black_ or _white_ and only think to associate them with clothing colours... and has never checked their privilege

[@milkteamachine]

Honestly, a shirt saying "Goth is Black", although still not good, would make WAY more sense. I have no idea what they thought they were doing.

[@BarbarianGod]

I should paint Goth Is Rainbow on one of my old black t-shirts

[@lisamariejo.7011]

YES, great idea

[@teannadestinee382]

I was literally thinking this! Why wouldn’t they just put this! Instead of white ..

[@Vampress09]

Goth is pink would also be good.

[@sora1498]

@@Vampress09 literally- like why wouldn't you use any BRIGHT colour, which is stereotypically NOT goth, instead of white??? did nobody, not even ONE single person, bring up the possibility it would look terrible?

[@weewooweewoo906]

i would buy tf out of goth is rainbow and goth is pink shirts

[@lilavrillover]

I have seen in another video on this topic by The Stitchess that current mood and sugarthrillz are both owned and operated by dolls kill

[@sarahhawkinson]

oh wow good to know thank you!

[@yolainnemaryderenthal7283]

they definitely hold the trademark ownerships of Sugar Thrillz and a few other brands trademarks.justia.com/owners/dolls-kill-inc-3672538/

[@Nurtherwen]

The way I always thought of it is that those "labels" are to help you shop for a specific look you are going for, like current mood is kind of 60's psychedelic? And sugar thrillz is like fairy unicorn pastel/rainbow fantasy. Widow is your "goth" vibe. But the website does list them as brands. So I have no idea.

[@sherry4914]

Current Mood is definitely their brand.

[@RickRolledArmadill0]

S goth youtuber and instagrammer named ItsBlackFriday had her likeness put on a shirt sold by Dollskill. Like a picture of her on a shirt

[@TheeHellcatD]

Without It's Black Friday's knowledge/permission? I subscribe to her YT & never knew this, so just curious if it was a collaboration or what. 🙂

[@afrancis8941]

I presmumes that was a collab 😱

[@grungechild94]

@@afrancis8941 it wasn't a collab, they literally stole a photo of her and changed up a couple things and then put it on the shirt, it was clearly her face, so sketchy!

[@annieenglish2933]

Amy Francis blackfriday spoke of it on her instagram and stated she was not involved and had no idea

[@steinistein8611]

She doesn't seem like the type that would enjoy people wearing her face either...

[@johannaweigelt9163]

The e-Mail about the Native American headdress was just terrible

[@AeliaReadsBooks]

it was very unprofessional

[@gwencere9383]

She didn't even try and apologise? Like? It was just "sorry you were offended normie how could you even THINK we're racist that's ridiculous haha"

[@devonmunn5728]

Plus in Native tribes that wear headresses (which not all tribes do) only men wore them

[@barenzhallie]

The fact their responses are so blatantly unprofessional, really shocked me

[@amandaford8730]

Ikr? It's like they hired a bunch of edgelord teenagers.

[@honeyandlavender_]

Me, me, me, me. That’s all I hear in her “apology” video.

[@brcsephina]

my fbi agent saw me looking on dollskill for some cute platforms this morning and decided to recommend me this aight i see you mr.

[@youngandloaded13]

i’m so desperate for a store that sells alternative clothing (including pastel/kawaii things), is affordable, uk based or free international shopping, that has inclusive sizing and doesn’t just drop ship from aliexpress... honestly it seems impossible

[@_bebeboudeur_]

killstar is uk based but not into kawaii

[@annamanoodle]

Look up Clammy Heart clothing for cute kawaii stuff. They don't do free shipping but smaller companies can't afford to send parcels for free, but it's all embroidered by the designer!

[@mymo_on4722]

this is also what i want, but its kinda hard :((

[@maeve909]

You might find some good stuff on Etsy

[@334mi]

I honestly suggest you to buy directly from AliExpress, there are lots of gems there

[@EmilyHummingbird]

I always thought Dolls Kill was so cute and - after watching this - I'm glad that I never bought from them before. And I certainly don't plan on it.

[@goldfishcakes329]

Emily Boo did two videos on alternatives to dollskill which include slow fashion and even POC owned alt businesses

[@aspannas]

Yeah I like a lot of their stuff, but the quality of the clothes are not great not to mention the price of some pieces. I bought from them once and never again.

[@Razeylabbit]

diana melchor thanks bb! im the same way that ive loved the stuff and never bought it and now nEVER will

[@emmaybenot7263]

Luckily they do a lot of using other places stuff (with and without permission) so you can get it anyway,😂

[@OBCDeeznutz]

I just can't take her seriously. Do bad thing, oops sorry, do another bad thing, oops sorry. I get learning and growing but growth isn't really being seen long term so far. Just my thoughts.

[@collinpizzo986]

apologizing and actually improving is what we want. she apologizes but doesn't improve. its disappointing and sad

[@cannachristiana]

I agree! Her quote of "I started dollskill to bring together people of all shapes, colors, size, opinions, identities, - WHATEVER!" does NOT seem sincere at all

[@sbjade9812]

“Her” as in who?

[@Holly-di6su]

@@sbjade9812 the creator of dollskill

[@audreyelizabeth2370]

She literally looks like a kicked puppy in the last apology

[@aiwxo]

Emily Boo made a great video breaking down all the areas where Dolls Kills fail, flop, and just are horrible in general. Thanks for spreading awareness Sarah!

[@lauren189]

The email they sent about the Native American head dress is so unprofessional and horrible

[@strawberrysakuras5319]

that apology made me so uncomfortable it just felt so forced, they're definitely just trying to cover their ass now that more and more people are realizing they are and will probably continue to be a problematic company

[@yesvember11]

I don’t even understand how companies can be this tasteless in the first place?

[@everythingsbetterwithbread]

Capitalism is an ugly thing

[@inkasaraswati7625]

They do have an "anti-establishment/counter-culture" vibe going on, which somehow translates to "we don't care about anything" (but like, with massive amount of capitalism).

[@soot9145]

You could also do a video about good clothing brands to buy from. As someone who is only getting into fashion and clothes, I mostly hear about bad brands but ethical brands aren't really highlighted

[@sarahhawkinson]

I actually don’t shop for new clothes so I haven’t explored ethical clothing brands yet! especially because of the price point, I’ll just always prefer shopping secondhand. Everlane and Reformation have proven to be a bit problematic tho so those aren’t the best brands to shop from but really well known as “ethical” clothing companies.

[@daniburns6369]

You can find a lot of small businesses on Etsy, you can message them directly and read the reviews/do your own research if you want to be sure

[@evie2356]

A great place to start is using Good on You and you can filter by particular items or find articles they have on different styles that highlight different brands. They have tons of brands and give you a sustainability rating and an overview of the companies ethics, they also showcase a wide variety of price points. Just know that sustainable and ethical clothing will always be more expensive because that is how much it costs pay their workers a living wage etc. This is a huge masterlist that you can also sort by catagory mygreencloset.com/directory/ My favourite brand, not just because they're sustainable, but because I would die for all their clothes is Lucy and Yak. You can also just shop at thrift stores or buying secondhand from depop and places like that.

[@soot9145]

Thank you so much!!!

[@priscillaosanna9061]

Depop! It’s an online used clothes store

[@starvalentine2956]

As an anarchist, when she said she was connected to anarchist ideas, I just wanted to scream. Yeah, maybe anarcho-capitalist ideas...

[@beyondtheradio]

i kept reading that as arsonist i was like damn dude

[@brix89056]

Omg yes, that’s the exact same thing I said !!

[@wp7896]

what about anarchism attracts you?

[@Myaccount923]

Beyond the Radio arsonist? Um...

[@vladaimpaler]

“anarchist” ideas in the sense that she’s a rich white girl who shoplifts things from Walmart to be edgy

[@kirstenyoutube7411]

I do get the fact that the dollskill instagram page linked to their own site in their bio though. If they link to another site, it might get hacked/spread faulty information/..., whereas by linking on their own site, they have complete control over what information they spread. The pop-up I'm sure is just a default in their coding, I don't think that's something that should be judged too harshly. On what you said about them being lazy for asking their followers about black owned businesses: don't you think that small businesses might have more chance to get found by them, rather then when their researching on their own without input? It might actually be a good thing. I'm not pro dolls kill by any means, just staying critical :) Lovely video as always!

[@sarahhawkinson]

those are good points thank you for thinking critically! 👏

[@doubleh333lix]

yeah! thanks for thinking more openly about this!

[@kirstenyoutube7411]

@@OxundHeiner Oh yeah that definitely makes sense as well haha

[@n.mcondomscandal5699]

i ordered $136 of clothes from dk and it got "lost" and i emailed them and got no response and its about 4 months now so needless to say I WILL NEVER EVER order or even look on dk for the rest of my live..

[@chickybaby2277]

Odd. I’ve had nothing but spectacular customer service from them.

[@rachelgonzalez7633]

she literally said "sick" so we couldn't tell if she was saying "cool" or "disgusting".... oh.

[@christalcavanaugh]

Did they really say that disrespecting the small amount of culture that natives have left is “not that deep” ???

[@missmollyc]

First... but... that doesn’t matter! What matters is the time you took to make us this amazing video. Love you!

[@sarahhawkinson]

haha aw love you!

[@missmollyc]

Sarah Hawkinson OH WOW! Thank you so much for responding. I am bipolar type 2 and your mental health videos were the first that I really connected to. ❤️

[@adishwasher8101]

Can we get a video about The Assassination of Gianni Versace? I've been binging a lot of true crime stuff lately and can't find any on the show. Thanks :)

[@flamejob4260]

Holy shit I'd love this too! I finished the series in like two days bc I liked it so much

[@bethmaxim7052]

I second this! Such an amazing show!!!

[@fiorina3421]

Go visit Stephanie Harlowe's channel, she has an amazing true crime channel, so in depth and well researched!

[@dashiajames1882]

There's actually a movie/documentary about Gianni Versace. I think it's on Netflix or OnDemand.

[@MelinaENJ]

omg even with it sped up and the video at 2x speed she speaks so slowly in her apologies

[@theoasismartinez]

tell me why she was looking at a script while saying her “apology video”... 😳

[@tartagliussy529]

The “dead girls can’t say no” shirt caught me really off guard oh my god

[@wendyluvs7539]

i’ll never understand why people still buy from them...

[@LarrietDarling]

I honestly didn't know about any of this until earlier this year! We definitely need people to keep bringing it up and pointing it out, because I didn't even know DollsKill was a thing in 2014 or 2016. I'm thankful people started bringing it up again this year, so I know not to buy anything from them again.

[@yolainnemaryderenthal7283]

i was an avid Dolls Kill purchaser until this surfaced. I think if people still continue to buy from the brand after this, it's because of two reasons: they either feel that Dolls Kill is genuinely turning a new leaf orrrr it's because the brand is one of the most well known alt stores with a varied catalog of aesthetics, which is why I bought from them in the first place. It'll definitely be more of an easier transition for people who might still lean on the brand if, in conjunction to bringing awareness to Dolls Kill's controversy, we also suggest alternative, more ethical alt brands that aren't as well known.

[@aberdeen0107]

Lol the first time I heard about dolls kill was when niki demartino went on and on about them and I thought to myself okay let’s not buy from that company lol

[@em-st2kq]

fr like 1. they’re racist asf 2. they steal designs 3. they basically dropship 4. i’m broke as fuck

[@ramenwithaliens5431]

I brought 3 things from there and after watching this I feel bad

[@MiyuTheSceneGirl]

I was shocked when I first saw the controversies about Dolls Kill today. I got five of their items, one is a choker from a brand I don’t remember the name of and three hair bows, a dress, a skirt, and a bear hoodie from Grave Girls. I still love my dress, my hair bows, my skirt, and my hoodie. My choker was broken because one of the spikes kept falling off, so I had the super glue it onto my choker. I’m never shopping there again.

[@missvaleska98]

you are my favourite youtuber , you make great and real content love you Sarah stay safe ♡

[@sarahhawkinson]

thank you! 💕

[@hope2338]

i'm not getting anything edgy from "dead girls can't say no" t-shirt. i'm getting necrophilia vibes, nothing else.

[@ghostorii646]

I really wanted to like dolls kill for a long time but could never get past the bs they feed people and I'm super happy I never gave them my money. You'd think a company that thrives off of being an individual, they dont do a good job at portraying it. I'll stick to thrifting/ diying my own fashion cuz....gross Edit: you brought up the employee thing! Enough people dont talk about this garbage. The person in the wheelchair breaks my heart...like damn that's dirty

[@lilthottie6625]

please say models of color rather than “poc models”. poc isn’t an adjective, it’s an acronym, and you would be saying “people of color models”

[@BygoneEraRachel]

Epic eye roll in the thumbnail, you should do that face more haha it’s great

[@lisamariejo.7011]

what a fucking MOOD

[@HorrorGalSusan]

I applaud you for coming forward and shedding light on this. Many of us who want our shopping to be morally and ethically sound wouldn't even know what's going on with them, or other brands.

[@itscinna5540]

Thank you for making this video! Personally, I was willfully ignorant for a while. This was many years ago back in high school, before I became an activist as well as anti-fast fashion, but I just didn’t care. It’s so embarrassing for me to admit that but I think it’s important to admit it. Nobody is perfect and everyone has their flaws- mine was my stubbornness. Since it wasn’t directly effecting me, I justified it. Now, I use my stubbornness for good causes and I am SO happy that I am not that person I was in HS anymore. I can’t believe I gave a disgusting company like this my money, I wish I could take it all back. Thank you, again, for making this video and for using your platform to speak up. ❤️❤️

[@Kai-se8xe]

dollskill sounds like a middle class white mom when she gets called out for being racist

[@desertlifeforlife6530]

Wow! That cat was like nope bye. ♥️👍🏽🤷🏻‍♀️

[@sabinerris3995]

Despite the video being sped up the dolls kill's owner's voice still sounds slow 😂

[@laurenaissance]

Right? I was like, "this is fast? I don't even want to hear slow!"

[@idkilikeeggos5261]

It’s like an emo Hollister....

[@anongirl4180]

sizing also runs really small!

[@morehoodies]

I was just going to comment that when she said she created Dolls Kill to bring together people of all different sizes. As long as those sizes are small and extra small.

[@iamandrey]

because they order clothes from china! and they just don't make large sizes.

[@anongirl4180]

More Hoodies right! I hate when brands do that shit like it’s fucked up

[@isabelnecessary5915]

Andréy then don’t order the clothes from China???? if your motivation is, as she said, to “bring together people of all sizes” then make the fucking effort to have inclusive sizing

[@iamandrey]

isabel necessary I agree! And as I know they did that and they have a new sizing chart for a few years now.

[@kurtistownresident9743]

I don’t understand how they can’t even admit that “goth is white” could have been perceived as racist

[@torifletcher474]

The fact that the camera was mostly focused on leatherface is KILLING me

[@leiaedmonds4086]

I couldn't watch thier statement on Instagram because she was talking so slow. Didn't even bother I just unfollowed them and moved on with my day

[@VDJVivacity]

That five minute apology started with her sounding like that Think Different commercial from Steve Jobs and Macintosh computers back in the 90s. Coincidence? Probably.

[@cutecobra9696]

Maybe Ms. Dollskill would've been a sillicon valley mogul in a different life.

[@oatboylionel]

The high pitched voice has me HOLLERING

[@ShootingStarASMR]

Pretty funny that the company’s founder is literally called ‘Shoddy’ 🤔

[@CYBDD]

*Shady

[@EmmzCP]

why do i feel like i'm being told off by the dollskill lady in her "apology" video??

[@aestheticcat8976]

I clicked super fast, keep up your great content! ❤️

[@iranianwarrior]

The way she was filming the apology video was creepy.

[@user-th4ml7ns3b]

Dolls kills apology is something I would expect from a toxic teen not from a well know company

[@AubergineDream23]

So well researched, so well organized, amazing video! So much information I had no idea about, thank you for this!

[@ghosto.o1704]

The founder reminds me of those rich kids who would dress like the "working class" for aesthetics

[@namelessshameless1505]

Quite a while ago, I was considering buying from them. I took one look at the prices and quality of clothing and closed the tab.

[@iamsamuellll]

Your cat meowing after you said “stick it up your assy” is a whole mood and I burst out laughing since the timing was perfect. Just subscribed!

[@KatieoftheNight]

Not serious, but me and my 2 other friends who have ordered from dollskill have all had instances where they sent the wrong item! Idk how that could happen so much. Was also not personally pleased with the customer service, just meh. I don't shop from them anymore either bc it's fast fashion and im a broke ass bitch.

[@abrianaholliday5042]

THANK YOU SARAH wow (i had no idea this was going on) for using your huge and informative platform to speak out again these disgusting actions against this, and as an african-american woman, i especially appreciate this ❤️ also, arent we all just, exhausted, fatigued, tired of these dry ass predictable and stale apologies, i mean SHEESH

[@aelurine]

doll kills owner with terf bangs is problematic? I'm unsurprised

[@chargingyellow]

I appreciate this video because I hear ALOT of people talking about how we shouldn’t buy from dollskill and it’s nice to see everything put together in one video to get a clear idea! I’ve bought from there before so! 🤍

[@georgewhite1972]

Why does the Dolls Kill founder sound like Lisa Simpson?

[@moonbunnygw8342]

The clip is sped up

[@idk-ch7hj]

it literally says why before the video starts

[@adriennetaylor100]

I was hoping you’d make a video about this as you gather all the info. I tried to research what had happened but I was coming up short! So as soon as I saw it was uploaded I had to watch.

[@jadeelizaishere]

Really comprehensive and thoughtful video, Sarah. I’d honestly never even heard of Dolls Kill until like last week. And idk if it was only me, but the only thing going through my head while you were reading the email response from customer service was: lol tag yourself.

[@Chanta2424]

I think this video is also similar to the Urban Outfitters one you did! Thanks for compiling all the info

[@belle31]

love from Australia:)) love ur vids girl thanks for this! now I can educate all the girls at my school that refuse to believe what I tell them

[@daisy-wt9pd]

Lucky that you live in Australia :)

[@belle31]

@@daisy-wt9pd what that? bahaha

[@dear-pixel-heart]

Thank you so very much for this video. I just want to say that I really appreciate you putting this together for people to watch, I am grateful to be educated. I have been following Dolls Kill since 2017, I have made a few purchases, and have browsed their clothing many times. I was quite surprised when I received my clothing, because the quality was poor, I expected so much better given how much I had spent. There is something else that really troubled me that deterred me from making future purchases, and that was some of the graphic designs they produced and sold at times, promoted rape culture and drug culture. As a trauma victim with PTSD I felt unsafe seeing a company flaunting items in this way. Having just watched your video today, I had no idea that Dolls Kill had stolen other artists designs, that is awful. I didn't know either about the Native American Headdress as a Halloween costume, and it is incredibly disturbing to me how that was handled, and I don't think it's enough how it's been addressed now, I think the owner needs to try and show empathy about the issue, and any future issue that arises. I am feeling very saddened and triggered hearing about Dolls Kill and their social media post about the Black Lives Matter movement, as it looks to me that they made an attempt to, and are still trying to profit off it. It just doesn't sit right. Their original post I really think and feel, was virtue signaling on their part, and I am at least glad to hear that people are speaking up about it. People have a right to question any company, to demand transparency, respect and better from them. I just wish Dolls Kill would actually try and do something really supportive and genuine for the Black Lives Matter movement. I don't think they have taken proper accountability, the apology was lacking, and to see that they will be donating an unspecified amount of money from 1 million dollars towards Black Lives Matters movement, from sales they make of black-owned fashion brands and designs, is dodgy as hell to me. I would prefer they donate all the proceeds, but surely they will specify exactly how much they will be donating from the 1 million dollars, otherwise this screams a scam to me. Any way, all in all, I appreciate having learnt so much more about Dolls Kill from this video. There is perhaps one positive thing I can report about the company, is that I have noticed in the past year that they have included more diversity in their models, especially in plus size which was really refreshing to see. How genuine the intent is behind this change, and how well the employees are treated, I'm not sure. I know that they recently employed LGBTQI models for one fashion shoot, I just really hope that they and all other models and employees that work there are treated well and with respect. Thank you again Sarah for relaying the information about the company Dolls Kill and owner, and your thoughts and feelings. I also want to say, that it is because of a video of yours I saw this year, that I heard about "fast fashion" for the first time. I then watched a documentary on it to learn more, and I am now being more mindful in my shopping; trying to make better choices for the environment, people and my own mental health. I've still got more to learn and do, but you have really helped and opened a door for me. You make a difference

[@quiplo_]

I nearly ordered a lazy oaf dress from dolls kill but I ended up finding it on depop. I’m glad I didn’t now.

[@luciefl7737]

I was just about to order something for the first time from dollskill but now I definitely won’t do that anymore. Even though I’m a bit sad ‘cause I really like this stuff it just isn’t right to support a brand like this. I should always check the brand before buying something. Thanks for opening my eyes. :D

[@alexzandaraustin432]

Why does their companies statements and apologies sound like the Heathers made it?!

[@cande2216]

I just wanna say I'm glad I'm still following you after many years, I love how authentic you are and how you keep your priorities straight. And your hair looks amazing. Gonna catch up on your last vids now. good night :)

[@Sorrycarl]

I’m sorry, can we talk about the fact that the model that was wearing the “goth is white” shirt ISNT WHITE. She’s a mixed girl. Definitely a part black girl. I know she looks it, and I’ve been confused on that model too. But if you look into that model then you would know she’s a mixed girl.

[@JessicasASMR]

Love that she had to read off of something for both apologies

[@9solar9eclipse9]

I love how them promoting rape was only spoken about for 1 second as if thats not more important than everything else talked about.

[@angelinasebastian1356]

I really like the way you communicate your opinions :)