Recorder legend Walter van Hauwe! | Team Recorder Pro-Files

Today it's a very special edition of The Pro-Files: I spent a day chatting with recorder maestro Walter van Hauwe! He told me about the reemergence of the recorder in the 1960s, his time with legends such as Frans Brüggen and Fred Morgan, his refreshing take on education, kicking out conservatives, how a new school system changed everything, and why making a mistake is so important!
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waltervanhauwe.org
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01:16 How did you start the recorder?
03:17 Studying in Amsterdam
04:35 Start of his career
08:04 Was studying the recorder normal?!
09:25 The situation: there was nothing
13:04 Starting the ‘blok’ system
17:57 The recorder worldwide
20:58 Making space for the new generation
25:32 Zen-On and ‘The Modern Recorder Player’
26:55 Articulation and language
28:53 The importance of technique… and artistry
33:01 What about mistakes?
34:44 Favourite music?
35:47 The future of the recorder?
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[@rushwarp9492]

We called them the 'blokfluitmeisjes' the 'little recorder girls' at the conservatory; 40 or 50 contantly milling about for a few days every month in the hallways....I think in all of Walter's classes through the years there were only about 1 or 2 male students, which the other students in EM often found rather amusing. Walter and Kees are Brüggen's most known pupils of course, through all their writings and recordings, but the funny thing is that Frans actually said many times that he considered Marion Verbruggen his most talented student of all. Hard to imagine now, the period Walter discusses here was amazing- it marked the period wherein fine recorders, harpsichords, lutes, oboes and traversos were being built in larger numbers and there was experimentation and discovery everywhere taking place.

[@annelogged]

This is amazing! Thank you, Sarah and Walter, for this interview and conversation. I'm so glad this has been recorded. Recorder history is so important to document. Please more of this type of video!

[@amadeuswolfe7180]

Thank you Anne, I can show you how to play skin flute or the male organ.

[@gr8a]

Thank you SO much for this gift! How fantastic it is to hear Mr. van Hauwe, in his own words, describe the modern development of the recorder - the instruments, technique, and the teaching. He is truly one of the recorder greats - and a gifted story teller, putting it all in clear perspective. I've admired him for years, and I'm so grateful for his amazing contributions to the modern renaissance of the recorder and its repertoire...as I am for YOUR contributions, Sarah. Your extensive library of video recorder lessons, tips, and interviews is a superb legacy. Thank you! 👑

[@honeychurchgipsy6]

What a treat - thankyou so much for this interview. It makes me realise how much we take for granted today: the availability of good instruments, in a range of tunings and styles, at reasonable prices and so many amazing, professional players throughout the world to delight us - we have Walter and his cohorts to thanks for this!! Like Walter I also began playing at school at the age of 7/8 years (a lunchtime recorder group if I remember correctly) - but - unlike Walter I instantly loved the recorder. For me, it was the fact that, with a book and a cheap plastic soprano, I could go away on my own and teach myself - I could make music!! This immediacy, the way anyone can pick it up and play a simple tune within minutes, is part of the recorder's charm - unfortunately it might also be the reason so many of us play badly!! Unlike many other instruments, where the initial learning curve is steep and painful (guitar, any reed instrument, violin) the initial learning curve for recorder is very shallow - the real work required to become an exceptional player - lies further down the path and is a path happily ignored by many of us - lol!! I think this discrepancy in 'where' the difficulties lie is also the reason so many non recorder players assume it is an easy instrument to master.

[@bacca71]

WOW! Sarah, you knocked that one so far out of the park it's in orbit! What a delightful and informative interview. Walter von Hauwe! Unreal. Enjoyed every minute of it, and was sorry to see it end. Could have taken 3 or 4 hours of that. What a wonderful interview. And nice to put a personality to his playing and his writing - very pleasant (and intelligent) fellow.

[@ma3xiu1]

Cool interview! I see why you moved to Netherlands, where it's all happening! :-)

[@scathatch]

Wonderful interview. Thankyou both so much.

[@kallikles2003]

Thanks so much for the great interview to a living recorder legend, Sarah!

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

I loved to hear all of this! Recorder history! Of course I knew about the recorder revival but it was great to hear more details. Excellent interview!

[@LobkeSprenkeling]

Very interesting interview! Thank you Sarah, and Walter!! 🌺

[@ronaldl9085]

Amazing interview. Thanks for sharing it with us.

[@grerika]

It is so great that you organise such interviews, thank you Sarah and Walter! It was lovely to hear the stories about the renaissance of the recorder and how it became „hot”. I have several Brüggen recordings from my former teacher, will listen them again. :)

[@FritzSolms]

This is such an insightful interview of such an influential and humble person - Thanks for making and publishing it.

[@annelogged]

I'd love to see the whole, unedited taping!!

[@allandunn1431]

That was great! What an amazing musical life he has had. 😁👍❤️

[@cutechiangels]

A very interesting interview with Walter van Hauwe ! Thanks a lot ! 🙏👍

[@rfw9889]

I attended a Sour Cream concert in Nuremberg some years ago. It's always fascinating to fill in ones knowledge of players, their background and ideas. It must have been so exciting to be part of the recorder world Van Hauwe was in and formed with Bruggen and Boeke.

[@gavrinmahaffey3656]

Marvelous thank you!

[@ceciliakate128]

Thank you for this fascinating, valuable interview!!

[@DavidWickes]

YESSSSSSSS!!! VAN HAUWE!!!!!! YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

[@DavidWickes]

so ridiculously excited right now

[@DavidWickes]

I regret only that I have but one thumb to give

[@harryjoseph1802]

David Munrow, Frans Brüggen wow!...Carl Dolmetsch? Great interview Ms. Jeffrey

[@TooOldFor]

Fantastic! Thanks.

[@jnmnlgrnd]

Thank you Sarah! I was in the Walter's "block" in march 2000 and I learned a lot. Today you bring me back those days to still learning from him.

[@Team_Recorder]

❤️

[@CasualTrainspotter]

Thank you, that was very interesting and inspiring! Also, on a side note - looks like Walter has an excellent taste in furniture, sitting in a Wassily chair for this interview :)

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

😄 I noticed that too!

[@Alexandra-crus-7]

lovely !! thank you to both of you !! bravo !!

[@hectoraguilar770]

Interesting information and interview!

[@jacquesfontaine3384]

pour la fraîcheur de vos vidéo et la passion pour la flûte à bec qui émane de vos présentations , thanks you very much.

[@luckybarrel7829]

Wow I'm reading his book 1 right now (so many f****g exercises to hold a recorder - and some of them - they're hard). Can't believe you have an interview. I thought the book was an ancient historical peice or something.

[@wendynoble6545]

Wow, I loved this interview!

[@ogechter]

Great interview. I hope you will interview one member of the Loki Stardust. I'm a big fan

[@drav3382]

Great video can’t wait for more videos

[@davidhunter5081]

So interesting. Thank you

[@Anthony-ze4le]

This is WONDERFUL

[@willieboy8798]

33:25 mistakes are so important ...a really good point! mistakes can be a need direction change or a stopping point or a really good reason to put more work into it..... edit ..... important oral histories, people that will come later can benefit from this as well...!

[@subjectline]

He was fun, so interesting!

[@aprilmunday1152]

Thank you. That was great.

[@duopastorale]

Brilliant. So interesting. I remember Quadro Hotteterre at the Wigmore Hall, probably in the 80's. It was stunning and got me hooked. I went on to study and finished at the Koninklijk Conservatorium, a great experience. Walter, I fondly remember a recording of Telemann trio sonatas with oboe (Han De Vries). I wore out my cassette tape! Any plans to make this available digitally? It is the most beautifully balanced and produced recording. Thank you for this inspiring interview.

[@myWaltervanHauwe]

Dear Michael, If you give me your mail address I can ‘We Transfer’ you the digital version of these Telemann trio’s.

[@duopastorale]

@@myWaltervanHauwe Thank you!

[@NDNdivergent]

that sassy 8ve at the intro. haha so very cute!

[@celestesinclair5910]

He sounds like a very demanding recorder teacher!

[@myWaltervanHauwe]

I indeed was 🤓

[@janemitchell576]

@@myWaltervanHauwe I remember a masterclass with you at RCM in London, pretty scary!

[@myWaltervanHauwe]

@@janemitchell576 sorry!

[@janemitchell576]

@@myWaltervanHauwe I guess it was hard because we didn’t get taught in that particular way, but I learnt a lot, so that is all that matters!

[@myWaltervanHauwe]

yeah ... what to say ... it's not just because I'm Dutch that I'm pretty straight forward but as a responsabile teacher I have to convince students that if you really want to become a professional and skilled musician it's not all party. Clearly structured and efficient practice is inevitable and you need to learn these skills during your studies so that you can educate yourself for the other 40 years after your studies. This can be heavy, even frustrating at times. It is essential, especially for an artist, that you get the feel that the process of development is more interesting than the end result; that result, this eventually nice, pleasant however always short moment, is for your audience. But the process is yours and it is there where you develop your unique, personal artistic inspiration and maintain your motivation. And this is what you should be taught during your studies. And that’s why I, as a teacher, have to be clear, convincing and inspiring; and so now and then, here or there even a bit tough. All this, of course, preferably on the basis of a shared addiction for our beloved instrument. Which music you want to play next is of less importance. Play recorder first, then choose the music; not the other way around. More or less in this order: 🥴😳😬🤯🤪😓😊😎🍺

[@yvesdelombaerde5909]

Suggestion: interview of Frédéric de Roos, now head of the Conservatoire in Brussels, former student of W. van Hauwe and a perfect ambassador of our beloved instrument. 2de suggestie: kom in Brussel aan het Erasmus Huis. Muren met leder behang, indrukwekkende akoestisch. Proficiat voor uw werk.

[@urkwez3687]

A Pro-Files w/ Bolette Roed, Pls!!!!

[@honeychurchgipsy6]

@esat f. Urkmez - yes please - and also the young Swedish player - whose name I cannot recall - and what about English player Jill Kemp??

[@victotronics]

As a dutchman van zekere leeftijd of course I know where Loekie Stardust comes from. But why Sour Cream? and thanks for the great interview, of course.

[@myWaltervanHauwe]

Why Sour Cream? Can't remember exactly. Clear was that we wanted to stay as far away as possible from something like “The Amsterdam Recorder Trio”. We listened lots of pop music these days (1970), so choosing such a confusing name was pretty hot. Later someone suggested that "Sour" is the opposite of the recorder’s historical name: "Flauto Dolce" or "Flûte Doux", and that we wanted to get rid of that one-sided image; might be; anyway, this did not came from us. Or maybe it was just that during a rehearsal the coffee cream was sour ...?!?

[@fryderykfranciszekchopin5716]

Yes.

[@sufisafavi5531]

Recorder? What do you call a recorder then? :)) English are funny people!💕🎸🎶🥂 Oh, lovely conversation by the way.

[@carr0t12radishes3]

Can you make a house tour

[@christophertsiliacos8958]

“He told me about the reemergence of the recorder in the 1960s…” 👍 It’s nice to hear that the recorder maestro Walter van Hauwe agrees with yours truly. Be that as it may, this shouldn’t come as a revelation to Sarah’s subscribers since I did say in a prior post that there was a renaissance with the recorder in the 1960's. 👌 😉

[@antonomaseapophasis5142]

9:14 David Munrow What a loss. A loss to the imagination of the wirld. Can't help wondering if he had any idea of the loss to the world.

[@cranjismcbasketball919]

The fact that someone actually learnt the recorder is an anomaly

[@ibrahimbeiruty1872]

Sara is soooo beautiful 😍

[@joshua_dummydumb3449]

Not first

[@brunomirandacv]

I GOT A ALTO RECORDER. I M PLAYING. UHULLLL

[@RolfLunheim]

Maybe you should make an edited version (10 minutes?) with highlights. 40 minutes is a very long interview ......

[@janemitchell576]

Please don't edit it, loved every minute!

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

O no, it was just right!