SAS say their hands are tied in fight against terrorism

[@lesleyosborne9319]

Do TERRORISTS Respect Human Rights? NO. Its Ridiculous.

[@plagiarisedwords]

And if our troops don't respect human rights what makes them different from the terrorists.

[@EvilEuropean]

During WW2, the Nazis did horrific actions but that didn’t mean the Allies did.

[@MadMotoring]

​@EvilEuropean the allies did 😅 lots of German civilians killed, lots of German women and children treated very badly. Also a lot of Nazis that did bad things didn't get prosecuted and America even put pressure on the brits to stop the trial of some nazis and succeeded.

[@malachytully5469]

​@@plagiarisedwordsI liked your comment and you are telling the Truth!!!

[@Iconoclastik-g2g]

​@@malachytully5469The issue with this is the fact that jihadists are not remotely human by any stretch of the imagination.People worldwide must realise the quran is an intruction manual for the eradication of all opposition to islam by any means.

[@adamredwine774]

The guest at the end says “both sides must be held to account.” But that’s exactly the problem, the terrorists will only be held to account by the military forces.

[@mikedevlin2048]

So many legal experts, politicians and commentators that don’t have the remotest idea of what it means to serve as a member of the UK armed forces… and to be willing to put your own life on the line to protect the public. Why don’t we see politicians being prosecuted for giving the mandate to use lethal force if it isn’t warranted ?

[@hgv1883]

They do a job to keep us safe

[@robplazzman6049]

Very difficult to take prisoners when you’re working behind enemy lines. War is war, accept it is terrible or make it totally illegal.

[@afp0756]

2 Tier Justice How many PIRA terrorists were ""investigateda and iprosecuted " by the PIRA Army Council for shooting unarmed civilians police officers and soldiers?

LOL cry more you sleepy dunce.

[@paulinequinton1478]

Are we no better than them, then?

[@niyanlan8928]

The British public has chosen. We want the SAS, under civilian oversight working within the law to apprehend terrorists and keep us safe. The hounding of our British soldiers is outrageous. It is perfectly okay if there is evidence to investigate soldiers but that has to be proportionate and with an understanding of the near impossible jobs we are asking them to do. Could it be that some so-called human rights lawyers care more about protecting the rights of the terrorists and more about making names for themselves than about applying sensible laws in a sensible way.

[@JohnBuckers]

Civvies should keep their noses out.

[@paulinequinton1478]

No, it could not. Lawyers have to defend people who have a reasonable case, regardless of their personal feelings.

[@colinstewart1432]

The SAS do perfectly well against their targets within the law as it stands. They always went through the civilian legal process. All weapons were immediately handed in and forensically examined. They're the best trained soldiers in the world. We're lucky to have them. It's about time people who've never had a weapon fired at them learned to accept this and stopped opining from the comfort of their ignorance.

[@ThisGuyAd.]

I remember being at cub scouts and a ww2 soldier came in to talk to us. I asked why aren't you considered a criminal? Why didn't you get in trouble? And he explained that he was fighting because his country had asked him to do it. It was his job and his duty. I'm privileged to have been able to talk to him, and I'm so glad that I got that answer in my formative years, because I'm also privileged to have never had to fight myself because of the sacrifice of others. This discourse that makes what is a fundamental distinction for armed forces, up for debate is a bad idea. Yes the law needs to be clear, but comparing professional British troops to the I D F is a false equivalency. Shame on that last contributor. The world has only gotten riskier so it is quite suspicious this debate is being led in this direction right at this time.

[@grumpygramps1451]

Imagine a football match where one team (let’s call this team SAS) plays by the rules and the other team (let’s call this team terrorist) doesn’t play by the rules, no matter how efficient, well trained & disciplined the SAS may be terrorism will never be eradicated because both teams aren’t competing on a level playing field. The only way to beat terrorism is to either operate outside the rules or create specific rules that are applicable for terrorism to beat them at their own game.

[@AntiWokeXyCitizen]

The lady is talking out of her behind, Soldiers can disobey an order if he believes its contravening the law of armed conflict and human rights and they're taught exactly that.

You sad child.

[@seajay09]

Absolutely ridiculous ! Some colleagues were under investigation for 12 years under the guise of the Abu Graibh enquiry. The odd thing was, of the 2 of them, neither were in the area at the time of the so called incident !!!!! Once the dodgy human rights lawyers had been outed for unethical/illegal practices, they were finally freed from persecution. Do the British public want their way of life defending, or not ?

[@coot1925]

If the SAS want to tackle terrorism they don't need to go any further than our parliament.

[@lindsayheyes925]

The University of York awards postgraduate qualifications to law students who research the careers of British Army veterans with a view to bringing charges against them for war crimes. Researchers are awarded grants to gather evidence from refugees who have been granted asylum in the UK and journalists. This research gives them credentials to embark on careers as Human Rights lawyers. How do I know? My daughter shared a house with a daughter of Tamil refugees at Uni, who was proud to tell me what her thesis involved: Researching the careers of two former SAS officers, including their operations in Aden and Northern Ireland before they joined the SAS and their careers as Private Military Contractors overseas after they had left the regiment. The world needs human rights, and HR lawyers, but what are seeing now is Lawfare, and not just against soldiers. I am bombarded with requests for donations to fund legal actions on environmental, DEI, privacy and immigration issues. I am beginning to think that they are self-righteously chasing not ambulances, but a gravy-train. Lawyers, eh? Who'd've thunk that?

[@stevec6232]

Who on earth would want to be a solder baeed on last lady's terms. Sure, she would be happy to go instead...

[@fred3965]

Human rights laws should only apply to normal people not people who are looking to cause chaos and death

[@kurtgodel5236]

The SAS will be delighted to hear that.

[@fred3965]

@@kurtgodel5236 The SAS are doing their job at cleaning up the worlds terrorists and they are told to go somewhere and do that so why should they then face consequences in the country that told them to do that?

[@kayway9329]

Politicians have no right to speak about the actions on the battlefield. If they want to make those calls they should enlist and do so through proper chain of command. Then they can see just how clear those lines are on the battlefield

[@admaneb]

The interviewer isn't getting it at all, this guy hasn't said they are above the law, it's a process issue that's all. At no stage does the guy say that the SAS should be above the law. He's repeatedly said that they accept and have to work within the ECHR and the Geneva Convention!!!

[@frsimonc.maddisonssc.7858]

The SAS are the best trained soldiers in the world, I absolutely trust their judgement, and am extremely grateful for their service. They should be extolled as the heroes they are not persecuted by pen pushers who have never done anything more dangerous than cross the street.

[@Philo68]

One of these people would survive a day of brisk skirmishing on Salisbury Plain, and a night out under the stars, with no sleeping bag. I think you know which one it is.

[@ratarsed666]

laws vs human nature , i'm not sure laws can ever win every time , the heat of the moment can take away our humanity .......

[@claudioastorga2188]

that woman is a dreamer

[@williambuckley6695]

Why are Soldiers being held Accountable For Having to do their Job that they have been Trained to do for Our Country

[@khiggins7231]

Mr Pinkerton shows his distain for the audience / interviewer by not looking at the camera and folding his arms

[@johndoe-vc1we]

Strange isn't it. Like he not comfortable showing his face. He always looks down.

[@JoeyBlogs007]

12:54 The woman at the end was absolutely correct. Change the law if you think it's wrong, but follow the law at all times. Otherwise the concept of law means nothing and isn't worth having. An organised civilised society could not function effectively under such inoperable conditions. This reflects a fundamental principle of the rule of law, which is essential for maintaining order and justice in any society.

[@jimphillippi616]

From a soldier's perspective, it's not just the weight of duty, it's also the steady rhythm of the present that matters. So, to hold them accountable for actions taken during the chaos of war, when their understanding of their ability to even survive is based on their mental state of needing room to breathe (so to speak), to act, and to hope for their own survival (and that of their buddies).

[@roygosling2317]

Leave them to do what they are trained to do

[@itsdalton]

The SAS and Armed forced have our full backing. Do whatever you need to do to regain control it's very simple

[@MilesCobain]

imo - no rules that the enemy doesn't also abide by - old adage - all's fair in love and war

[@seajay09]

When someone even mentions films about the SAS you know that what they say is not worth listening to.

[@darrenjames5522]

ECHR states to protect Human Life. If they are a terrorist. They are a threat to many lives. The terrorist engineer could take far more lives than just one. That's in one singular attack!

[@kimbaldunsmore4633]

All sailors, soldiers and airmen need to have the basic laws of war and the other relevant conventions belted into them continually, especially those deployed. When l was an Australian naval officer some years ago now, l came within a single order of committing a war crime of engaging an innocent vessel in the Strait of Hormuz during the second Gulf War. l had to make the split second decision of an engage order or not based on the contact's profile We were so very close to the threshold of our rules of engagement, but thankfully in that moment l chose not to engage.and saved some civilian's lives. l am pretty proud of that by the way! That incident will be one of the things l will remember on my deathbed.

[@davehopkin9502]

The premise that a Drone is exempt from the rules of war and international law is ridiculous, if its illegal for a human operator on the ground its also illegal for a remote operated UAV

[@danielpodmore7475]

The law of armed conflict is pretty simple just use the phrase "it was my honest held belief" in court and you should be fine.

[@Danjs112]

This seems to confuse two issues - soldiers in action and then subsequent detention and bail of any captured terrorists.

[@chrissmith-wq6gr]

Get out of the ECHR

[@XAirForcedotcom]

We went from tribes to villages to towns to city state to nation state, and the next logical step in social governance is a unified world before we leave earth, which is being tried right now.

[@jimphillippi616]

On the other hand, there is often knowledge of the situation that the civilian leadership is aware of that a soldier is simply unaware of. And the debate over whether or not a certain action should be taken had ALREADY TAKEN PLACE by that ELECTED civilian leadership. To give a soldier the authority (or duty) to disobey an order based on his often limited knowledge of the overall scope, is LUDICROUS! I can give examples, if you like.

[@ednigma6526]

It's expressed as "Two Two SAS", not "Twenty Two...". Basics.

[@MoralScienceEducation]

If there is a “moral mindset training” for military forces and police, not only will this help train or sensitize soldiers to the impact of their necessarily quick decisions, take the “best” decision in each instance during conflict, also the “maniacs” can be filtered out, and any PTSD may be much less following the participation in (armed) conflict - for the more conscious will the soldiers be and perhaps as a result less traumatized as a result of the decisions taken.

[@christhomas5794]

The SAS just need to do the job they don’t Rupert and politicians telling them how to do the job

[@richardsymonds5159]

I get rather annoyed by reference to Dresden being a war crime committed by the British - you forget the Americans continued the bombing the following day and it does not even gent mentioned! It is also a historical fact that the Russians asked us to bomb it as it was a significant centre of communications with significant factories contributing to the war effort. It was, of course completely untouched until that fateful night I have a friend whose parents were at the theatre in Dresden that night and who lived because they decided to leave for their farm immediately the bombs began to fall

[@JCRF]

Use legal DISCRETION and not witch-hunts, simple

[@chrisp4170]

Why won't this guy look at us?

[@ThisGuyAd.]

Is he looking out for ninjas? Keeps looking over his shoulders.

[@tristancelayeta6890]

Those who break moral law should live in fear forever. Those who've crossed the line, even decades ago, must face judgement.

[@Canadian_Skeptical]

Its the end of the UK was we know it!

[@MrDominicharrison]

Woman at the end forgets that terrorists forgo their human rights having descended to chimpanzee levels of behaviour

[@MichaelGallagher97]

Snake, do you think human rights can bloom, even on a battlefield?

[@christopherguest485]

This woman living in larr larr land

[@ArchefluxxMusic]

Subtle burp

[@reorioOrion]

If you arrest the head of the terrorists and provide him with a lawyer, then in court it may turn out that the terrorist was sponsored by the USA. Therefore, the detention of such people must definitely be illegal.

[@Cockpit16478]

Tactical. Not looking straight into the camera ! Edit . His body language says everything 😂.

[@w.loczykij5354]

He expects terrorists in his study scanning left and right all the time. What a life.

[@aimformyheadplease]

You can engage in spec ops and follow respect basic human rights, claiming anything else is a false dichotomy. We can all chew gum and walk at the same time.

[@raiconlan1]

Water walker, you won't win a fight with one hand tied behind your back.

[@TheFreemanuk]

British army area waste of money and unfit for service. They cant stop 300.000 rubber boats per year.

[@Nineteen1900Hundred]

"Why have we got our hands tied!?....sir." -Gaz, Call Of Duty Modern Warfare.

[@peterbooth2804]

Armchair politics yet again.

[@georgedoherty962]

Dresden dies not mean that your SAS has the right to be Judge Jury and Executioner. The SAS were active in Gaza. The RAF were rargeting the Palestinian people and pointing out the areas that the bombs would be most effective.. methink the UK has lost its way years sgo.

[@MrGraemeb2022]

And you know this because...?

[@GhostRider-g3f]

😂

[@karlwalther4182]

All soldiers of all countries must be held accountable. The only exception is Israel. Its military can do whatever it wants because they are the sons of God. It is the new commandment that must be obeyed.

Yawn

[@caseychaos5216]

Go rouge boys 👍

SAS terrorists will be brought to justice one way or another.

[@GhostRider-g3f]

Who dares wins 🎉

[@niyanlan8928]

You want to fight them about it?

[@TraceMiller-p2z]

Well if you do not have a code conduct, you knoooow, what will happen, the animal mind, will begin acting on people, it has the mind of about a 7 year old, but it can take you over and you can go all down to living out on the open ground with two main thoughts, food qnd females, and they will doo alllll kinds of things in between. Bowey.

[@grumpygramps1451]

Imagine a football match where one team (let’s call this team SAS) plays by the rules and the other team (let’s call this team terrorist) doesn’t play by the rules, no matter how efficient, well trained & disciplined the SAS may be terrorism will never be eradicated because both teams aren’t competing on a level playing field. The only way to beat terrorism is to either operate outside the rules or create specific rules that are applicable for terrorism to beat them at their own game.