Chastity: Becoming Celib(r)ate - Satsang with Shunyamurti

[@waltersj20]

Good humor on a difficult subject :) Great points!

[@Conr454]

Ya it seems when i have admirations for the opposite gender i seem like i have wronged my Spiritual self or my Spiritual adoration & everything included in it.. like my large love of Naga babas and Indian Spirituality.. I remember all the time you saying ‘projections’ the projections can become carnal? Instead of Spiritual projections? I see myself so vast.. so vast & connected to the universe with a sense of universality in me or flowing through me.. this awareness is so beautiful.. i feel so safe.. this has got to be a Spiritual projection.. but when i have carnal admirations or carnal ‘projections’ i seem to lose my universality. But again. thanks a ton for your presence.

[@ZeniferJenZ]

🙏

[@Conr454]

So the kaivalya is where the root of celibate or celibacy came from? i have been searching for this.. but we are aware of the baptism in the ocean of consciousness.. Gods' ocean of consciousness as a fruit from the kaivalya.. the fruit of celibacy? It is interesting because it does seem celibacy as the height of a Spiritual experiencing.. with fruit of the Spirit being faithfulness i can see why the fruit of Celibacy would produce the awareness of the Creator & the consciousness of it

[@patriciasummers2223]

I am just wondering about how our God created us with natural sexual desires? So it seems there would be a lot of oppressing these desires in order to be celibate. Yes? Especially in the younger ages I assume because in my 60s I am well over that phase! The short studies I did in Raja Yoga while married also advised celibacy so I actually quit going to these because of that reason. That it would affect my marriage. Of course if my spouse was also on board with the spiritual studies I can see how possibly this would work.