2021 Toyota Corolla Apex | Fun is Relative

[@TekuTaurus]

People: "We want a new Toyota sports car!" Toyota: S T I F F C O R O L L A

[@Derek8487]

Bmw supra 🤣

[@Syncopia]

Just reading the words stiff corolla rubs me the wrong way.

[@802Garage]

Corolla, but make it ✨stiff!✨

[@Unchainedmaple888]

S T I F F C O R O L L A. Givin me hella RCR vibes lmao

[@trdrav4]

@@802Garage Its stiffer than a 94 Celica lol

[@chinmaymahajan7778]

Toyota Corolla Apex is basically a middle-aged man wearing Yeezys.

[@amazoidal]

I'm 72. It reminds of my 1974 Corolla SR5. Lots of fun.

[@squidproquo2241]

"Toyota Corolla Apex is basically a middle-aged man wearing Yeezys." And you decided this how? LOL! Have you ever seen one, much less being in one, yet? LOL!

[@bradcomis1066]

@Richard Favreau Do you own a Corolla or something?

[@bradcomis1066]

@Richard Favreau You've made a whole bunch of pro-Corolla posts on this video. Why do you love the Corolla so much?

[@isaacsardar447]

Brad Comis lol I think he’s a corolla fanboy. 😭😭😭

[@kimjones308]

I caught that visor test there, and failed no less.

[@chrislangstaff]

Supercar PASS

[@embreeza]

hahaha man that was good

[@Ryan-yl9kl]

Memes. Memes everywhere

[@Elusive25]

Hilarious

[@PianoBlackTrimRep.]

I wonder how this car handles in cliche cornfield.

[@Traysandor]

Strong points about the pricing structure - this just feels more like an extra trim package with some stuff that tries to help things... But it's still at the end of the day a Toyota Corolla. If you're spending this kind of money on a compact car you more than likely want something more fun than this like the Honda/Hyundai/VW fun car variants. Or something that feels more luxurious, like a Mazda 3.

[@Cozmozmoz]

With the new Mazda 3 turbo and AWD hatch for only a little more, it’s hard to see what toyota is even trying sell. If you want something with more room for modification, get an SI or Veloster. It just doesn’t make sense and Toyota is falling behind.

[@RCXDerp]

@@Cozmozmoz I feel like the Si is the easiest car to deal with modifying I'd be kinda worried about the N boi. Hopefully Mazda can sell enough to keep real automatics around haha never thought I'd say that while my only 2 cars are stick.

[@Cozmozmoz]

@@RCXDerp I'd be worried about the N as well, but at least it has options for enthusiasts. Compared to the gen4 mazda 3, which wasn't built with that in mind at all really, haha. However, I see the market Mazda is trying to carve with the new gen4/ gen4 turbo/ awd, and it's sort of the market I'm in at my current stage of life. I see where Honda is keeping its place for enthusiasts even though they really need to update their offerings and current reliability. I have absolutely no idea what Toyota is trying to achieve right now. They update exteriors to look radical, but continue to make really poor interior choices in material and outdated design. They add power, but continue to make their cars couches on wheels that feel unbalanced outside driving the highway. I don't think they have a clear trajectory other than making their cars appear "sportier and more attractive."

[@ThomisticAmerican13FOX]

This car doesn't make sense on two main counts. 1. The price, @miles traysandor is correct. 2. The CVT, that nurfs any possible "fun", real first gear or not.

[@MeltingRubberZ28]

300+WHP '19 GLI here for less than 24k OTD and after mods...

[@ABeans07]

Nothing says hitting the apex like a CVT

[@exothermal.sprocket]

And a droning harsh 4-banger thrashing its Euro4 emissions heart out.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@admiralstiffplank I'm sure that technology directly reflects a CVT in an $18k economy car.

[@dinobot_maximize]

technically the ct gives apex gear ratios lol

[@braetonwilson4296]

This is a Lexus grade CVT with a physical first gear. Yes, the 2021 Lexus UX 200 has the same CVT. I would much rather have this CVT than a harsh shifting DCT.

[@-nightraider-1169]

@@braetonwilson4296 Same. I’d rather have a well designed, responsive CVT then a jerky unreliable DCT

[@autonewstv86]

*That actually looks pretty decent. Could use some more power for that kind of price, though*

[@DanUtley]

Considering the 4Runner has a drivetrain and gas mileage from 1986, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

[@James-il3tq]

@@DanUtley I get 19mpg on my lifted 2013 4runner with Toyo AT3 tires. Mileage isn't that bad 😉

[@speakingtruths4215]

Car INTERIOR Hahaha. You’re looking for more power from a Corolla? Not happening.

[@RoguePlanetStudio]

Like 200 would have been nice maybe 250.

[@ro0ster648]

Hopefully that 257hp GR Corolla gets to production. 🤞

[@nkyryry]

Toyota is charging for reliability now. They’ve given up competing.

[@pnourani]

It cost the same as the new GTI... How anyone could buy this over the GTI is beyond me.

[@erickrecinos2931]

Exactly

[@Syncopia]

They've rested on their laurels and they're not even pretending.

[@iiv3l0cityii]

@@pnourani Right? or the new gen Mazda3. More power, sporty driving, nicer interior, similar price. Mind boggling

[@aygwm]

Perry people who value their own sanity will avoid the GTI

[@Frostshield1337]

8:31 and the visor doesn't even pass the test, throw the car away. For $30k, and what you're getting, I can only see the hardcore enthusiasts considering this, but even then, it's not different enough from other corolla's for me to really see why Toyota would make this. A good review as always!

[@ABeans07]

Who's hardcore and wants a CVT? Totally missed the mark

[@chocolatewheelchair]

It’s a ripoff as most Toyota’s are. They assume people want to buy it because they have a reputation or quality. But I don’t like the design or dynamics

[@d1zguy864]

Kevin Le no kidding 30k for this trash. Better off with an SI. Toyota is dead when it comes to real enthusiasts and this is only raising the price of JDM imports. Chasers jzx100 soarers and supras

[@cdeanda]

There's a sliding tab on that visor but for some unknown reason he didn't use it...

[@gtmike916]

You might as well just buy the Toyota 86. This APEX Corolla is stupid as hell.

[@TheTopher]

If you like boxing without gloves, riding mountain bike trails on a rigid frame, eating walnuts with the shell, and surgery without anesthesia, this is the car for you! #feeleverything #prettysurethatsloganisalreadytakenbyacontraceptivecompany

[@moonsapling]

i had to take my own time to read that second hashtag

[@trdrav4]

Hit by a parked car, tripped over a cordless phone

[@kablouserful]

The man, the myth, the legend

[@hybridsnowleopard]

😆

[@tor3040]

I wonder if there's rev hang?

[@victoralley708]

I'm glad you showed this car some love Mark. It's sad that these "sporty" little 4 cylinder naturally aspirated engine cars with manual transmissions are becoming obsolete. I'd rather buy one of those that a civic with a turbo any day.

[@RCXDerp]

You can still get a 2L NA Civic manual still those are a good reliable car if you need to put 200k on something.

[@stevenr1354]

For $21k you can get a Civic Sport sedan. NA engine. VTEC. Manual transmission. I have one. It's a blast.

[@-nightraider-1169]

Your missing out on the Civic Sport with the 1.5. Much better then this car

[@amineelouati6496]

Loving the Initial D easter egg you've just thrown there.

[@thebrownguy79]

1:10 Initial D soundtrack reference. 😂

[@Stardust51]

Another at 4:36

[@Maxx61]

This is a testament to Toyota understanding the consumer. Not everyone is looking for unbridled performance or the very most performance you can throw into an automobile and keep it under $33K. Many just want reliable, affordable fun. There is nothing that screams fun with a stock Corolla. God knows I've driven enough of them over the years. The Apex is a fantastic used option (let someone else absorb the depreciation) that for $25K, is a reliable road carver that won't end emptying your wallet each time you lift it up or open the hood.

[@mrjjthor]

Toyota is getting way too comfortable charging $30k for a 170hp Corolla with minor suspension and anesthetic mods. Hopefully the Toyota fanboys will not support this overpriced car.

[@aseeds7785]

I can see where they are going with the Toyota corolla GR if this is already at 30k.

[@mrjjthor]

@@aseeds7785 I think it's going to be really close to the Civic type R price range. If the GR Corolla doesn't sell well then toyota is gonna say well, we made a performance car but no one wanted to purchase it so it's back to hybrids, SUVs, and collaboration for their performance cars.

[@AngelValdovinos]

That's good money 🤡

[@davep8029]

I appreciate that you review a selection of vehicles from basic to extreme. Frankly, I'm more interested in the basic vehicle reviews, but it is fun to watch the more esoteric vehicle reviews too.

[@joshua9073]

“Esoteric?” Lmao

[@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT]

Mondays are bearable now at least

[@vb7037]

marketing cash grab trim level.

[@dinobot_maximize]

yea well thats capitalism, foo and you dont complain about that. what are people willing to pay. you can haggle the dealer to a lower price too.

[@bluesky5384]

Absolutely. A way that Toyota can attempt to sell a Corolla for $30k. I love my Corolla but not for $30k.

[@rx3la]

@@bluesky5384 if I can find the apex for 20k.new is it a good deal?

[@bluesky5384]

@@rx3la I'm no expert but I'd think so considering that's considerably lower for what it's going for sticker.

[@lorenl9262]

You guys passed me on the I-15 freeway going into VEGAS today and I didn't know who you were until I saw this video!!! Kudos!!

[@Southpaw-qc9gh]

Always excited to see an upload from you guys! The way you do your car reviews is truly unique and is always executed flawlessly.

[@TheHomeExpert5]

This thing is way, way, way, way, way, way, way, did I say way, way, way, way, too expensive!

[@TheHomeExpert5]

@Richard Favreau having money in the bank does not make a wise person foolish with it. Wake up little snoozy.

[@TheHomeExpert5]

@Richard Favreau yes, Jesus is coming back very soon. All the signs are there.

[@wigletron2846]

@Richard Favreau yea if I'm gonna splurge to buy a car to gave fun with it sure as hell wouldn't be this. Get over it, this car isn't worth the money. Too many better cars at the price

[@markmiller3279]

I can see a very small number of people for whom this makes sense, but it really is overpriced. Lowered springs, summer tires, and stiffening up a few other minor bits shouldn't coat $3000+. If they were only expecting to sell a few hundred amortizing the development costs would push the price up tgat much, but this isn't going to.be a rarity and will likely be made for several years. I kind of wonder if they've just decided to spread out the improvements over several years, as they've done with the 86's incremental improvements. Maybe the Apex will get engine improvements next year. I hope so.

[@VeyronBD]

Is just a corolla but they put shitty ebay spec coilovers in it from factory so it rides like a shopping cart.

[@JacesOwnWorld]

I bought my GTI brand new for $23k, which has substantially more performance, a substantially nicer interior, and substantially more tech. Enough said.

[@cheesecurdinator4010]

Damn you found a good deal on a GTI. I wanted a GTI but couldn't find one priced that low so I settled for a new GLI

[@al4079]

Japanese cars are overpriced as hell. They coast off of their "rEliAbIlE" reputation. Nothing more.

[@cheesecurdinator4010]

@Richard Favreau yea but the Apex specifically is more expensive than its German counterpart. The corrola apex also has less HP and a lower quality ride and interior than its german counterpart. Sorry but id rather spend 24k on a car that is actually quick and fun to drive with a bearable interior vs a 30k corrola with a few minor modifications

[@cheesecurdinator4010]

@Richard Favreau ivlooked at the corrola and the interior was the cheapest thing iv ever sat in. The exterior is OK but the GLI I bought it leaps and bounds more attractive, doesn't have a shitty CVT and is much better inside. Yea its not 16k off the lot but a regular jetta would be. I admit I wouldnt buy a regular jetta but id pick an equivalent subaru or a honda over a corrola

[@cheesecurdinator4010]

@Richard Favreau I call the corolla cheap because compared to the jetta styling wise and interior quality wise its a piece of shit. Ill give it reliability yes but its horribly ugly to sit in and the buttons made me cringe when I used them. Id rather buy a subaru with the same quality interior as the corrola but at least it has all wheel drive.

[@SSDracerSD]

Too expensive for what it is. It be a cool buy as a used car in 10 years.

[@domdrty]

I'd say cool to buy in 2 yrs after the initial depreciation. The problem is they will be hard to find due to the low production numbers.

[@clonetrooper576]

Since they are limiting production of them it's gonna be a situation where even though and is over charged right now they're so rare that to gonna keep their value Especially the manual even now it's a pretty stupid trim and a pretty stupid car

[@simonzzzz6189]

Initial D bumper sticker would have added 50HP

[@gwcrispi]

Why in the hell would you pay $30K for this when you can get a Veloster N for that?

[@AH-bm4ts]

Gary Crispin 🤷🏾‍♂️because it'll probably last for 30 years or you hate going to the mechanic💁🏾‍♂️

[@DanUtley]

A H All the excitement of driving a Corolla for 30 years. No thanks lol. Although, in a manual variant it probably would be sufficiently fun for all those years.

[@TheGreektrojan]

@@AH-bm4ts You could get a Mazda3 fully loaded for the same price, be nearly as reliable/hassle free, and have a significantly better car across the board.

[@mrjjthor]

Because #toyotafanboys. They'll eat up anything Toyota.

[@thenewhalogod]

I'd like to drive a car for more than 20k mi before doing the engine. There are videos of people driving the N off the lot and the engine throws a rod. (yes the actual average for failure 60k mi, but starts making noise around 23k mi.) when is the last time you heard of a Toyota having a engine-related problem? last one I can think of is the gas pedal thing in like 2010, and was basically a floor mat problem, OH NO. Never buy KDM. its just not worth it.

[@BMWROYAL]

I would love to see them make a 300hp collora trd

[@chocolatewheelchair]

The new KIA Forte GT looks better and is less expensive than this.

[@eVerProductions1]

But it’s a Kia, the corolla will outlive the Kia Atleast 10x

[@chocolatewheelchair]

eVerProductions1 I agree more or less but it’s all relative I guess if you wanna drive the same Toyota forever or not

[@chocolatewheelchair]

Richard Favreau I respectfully disagree

[@chocolatewheelchair]

Richard Favreau def. and I totally agree about turbos being less reliable over time. I used to love them but now I prefer naturally aspired. I think the Forte GT is personally awesome looking and packed super nice for the money. Toyota has an amazing reputation for quality. I’ve never driven / had one tho

[@chocolatewheelchair]

Smile which problem bro?

[@BRYNKS-ql7uh]

I like how this looks a lot but I still prefer the hatch I got the all black 6 speed se recently for under 20k and I love it for daily driving!

[@t.k.morris]

How is the back seat?

[@GOD999MODE]

200 Hp/200 lb ft. torque figures are the sweet spot for small lightweight sedans.

[@Ulieq]

zoom zoom

[@Tripp55]

I would, without a doubt, take the Forte GT over this thing. BUT I did see this car at dusk with just the drl's on and it looked absolutely sweet!

[@Hashbrowniepie]

Would never consider paying 30k for this.

[@vwburger]

You guys are awesome. I think every video needs a tiny bit of colorful language and some silliness. I think that is what sets you guys apart.

[@RCXDerp]

As an Si owner I'd probably still take the 2L NA civic manual with no adaptive shocks over this sad boi. I wish Toyota made something appealing literally had 0 mechanical problems on my 2000 camry.

[@jeffreyfurtado3681]

TRD Camry V6.

[@UnboxingJobs]

Agree with Jack on how this car stacks within the price range. Also appreciated your perspective on another flavour offering in the market. It’s good to consider different perspectives 😎 thanks guys!

[@PianoBlackTrimRep.]

What's the recommended Continental tire for this car and what's the final Savagegeese score?

[@stevenr1354]

Lol. At least it's not a money pit!

[@junlee7763]

This is my little personal testimonial on Toyota Corolla reliability; my former wife bought a Corolla when she graduated from college in early 2000s. Ever since we met in our 20s I have owned Korean, German and domestic cars in a time span of almost twenty years, guess what she still drives Corolla. I used jokes about the longevity of Toyota cars which will last forever; Corolla outlasted our marriage lasted about a decade and I am pretty sure it will be the first car my son will own in few years. True story.

[@Rbispott]

Your reviews are always great . Always love how you reason on the purpose of the vehicle and not simply what you think it should be. Honestly ,some vehicles will have only certain features due to its purpose. The corolla is the best selling sedan worldwide for the very reason you stressed... reliability. if you live a country like mine where potholes are a main feature of the roads...then you think of corolla. The reviews are deep and we'll thought out. I'm surprised you have to keep encouraging persons to subscribe....I did on the first review I watched

[@robinsooper2208]

He is called excusesgeese for a reason

[@James-il3tq]

$30k 😬 Same price I paid for my 2019 RAV4 XSE hybrid here in Canada!

[@ro0ster648]

That is a very good deal

[@Trex6767]

I had a corolla hatch and the insurance was more than my wrx. $800 a year for my wrx and the corolla was like $1300

[@RCXDerp]

@@Trex6767 Thats forked up man, the only reason I stay away from WRXs and Zs are the insurance.

[@random-i2s]

in some countries cars are just ridiculous cheap, 30k for a luxury specced rav4 that like insanely cheap. Almost for free. You know what a specced out rav4 hybrid costs in the Netherlands? 57000 USD. medium specced corolla hybrid in the netherlands? 35000 USD . Its ridiculous and the reason why everyone here drives 10 year old cars.

[@James-il3tq]

@Richard Favreau I paid $30k USD for my RAV4 hybrid XSE in Canada. I paid $39,300 CAD all in for it.

[@TheHelloImTom]

Add rwd and majority manual make the block better and coupe version and the community would love it and live on for such a long time

[@Taurineg]

The corolla is already due for a cockpit update. That instrument design Los like it being in the last decade and the central display is PDA-ish.

[@MARTINRIGGSS]

I have the XSE trim of this car. It’s actually very good in pretty much every aspect. For what it is at least. Only complaint is the paint is thin, should be a better motor / different transmission option for the XSE.

[@AbzAden]

Omg 1:09 Running in the 90’s.....*Euro beat intensifies*

[@aurelius9319]

Although I respect the reviewers' opinion, I feel that this car has not really been properly appreciated. The review car is the XSE Apex at $28,710, which gets close to Civic Si/Veloster N pricing. However, the SE Apex is $25,570, and gives up only some fit and finish -- basically, it has cloth seats. For a lot of people, $33K for a WRX is too much of a stretch compared to $26K. The regular SE is $22,875, so it is about a $2700 upgrade for the Apex package which includes quite a lot of good stuff including flow-formed wheels, better tires and suspension/exhaust upgrades. I think there is a place for a "four door Miata," or a mid-$20K, naturally aspirated 4cyl making about 160hp, that fits the "drive a slow car fast" sports car archetype -- a car you can wring out at every red light and stop sign, and does braking and cornering as well as any other sports car. A car that makes regular sub-65mph driving on public roads a lot more fun. Whether the Apex hits this mark I don't know, but they are trying. One advantage of this framework is: a simple naturally aspirated drivetrain that offers both high gas mileage and low maintenance hassles; and, probably, lower insurance costs. Edmunds' five-year cost-to-own calculator shows the Corolla SE Apex costs $14,000 less over five years than the WRX in Premium trim. That's a lot of extra dough to enjoy some "vroom vroom" on the way to work. The CVT system actually includes a separate first gear. In hard acceleration to 65mph, you are only going to use 1st and 2nd gear anyway, so it is almost equivalent to a geared automatic. Plus, you get the CVT efficiency for highway cruising. I am sure the Toyota engineers were thinking along these lines. If the Apex handles well, it can certainly be called a sports car, despite its small engine. The first Porsche 911 of the 1960s/early 1970s only had about 160hp, and the original Miata NA had only 116hp from its 1.6L engine. Today, sub-200hp Miatas are still setting great track times. The reviewers should have taken this car to the track -- maybe, a track for slower speeds, like an autocross course. I personally used to drive an NA Miata modified to "SCCA spec Miata" standard, including suspension, exhaust and tire upgrades, which was previously owned by an avid autocross enthusiast. It was a lot of fun, especially with the all-manual steering rack. Naturally, I would be interested in a four-door version of the same, but all we have here is "the ride is harsh," and "it doesn't have a powerful engine." In other words, "it's not a cushy highway cruiser;" and, "it's not an M3." We already know what it is not.

[@fabianherrmann6398]

Great Music for the intro and tracks showing on the infotainment screen. I like the design and I see new Corollas often here in Germany, most are Hybrid though and they only come as a hatchback.

[@ryanstorrs4026]

Love the videos! Keep up the good work

[@MaadScience]

@savagegeese consistently has the best music in the car review world

[@singular9]

My '19 XSE Camry was 24,500 OTD... WTF 29k for a corolla?

[@evankatz2893]

As Always Another superior Review Mark,And Jack No B/S Straight to the point All The Best Evan From New City,NY in Rockland County

[@Suomyice]

Has the automotive world honestly arrived to this place. Naming something like a Corolla with a CVT. "APEX" edition!!!!🙈🙉

[@Forestdawg1791]

When I first heard about the Apex my first though was maybe Toyota finally built a Corolla type r but sadly that doesn’t seem to be the case. The low number of manuals on this car seems like a mistake. The person who would buy this car for that amount of money would want the manual. The split should have been 50/50

[@RCXDerp]

They have no balls to just make it a Si like Honda. If it had a decent attempt at a diff and the manuals weren't so rare might've put up a fight against an Si.

[@bartechh]

you guys are brilliant. love the detailed info about these cars

[@LuxLazar]

Remember when Toyota used to be the awesome reliable yet affordable option? My certified Tacoma TRD Sport cost $35k. That’s not cheap...

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

The only thing this has in common with InitialD and the 86 - it is better for downhill driving lol Just overpriced for what it is. For that price you can get a better, stronger Camry and aftermarket suspension.

[@TheHomeExpert5]

For $29,000, I can have three vantastic cars for that.

[@BrokenKingpin]

I think this trim of the Corolla actually looks pretty cool. However, this thing should be 8k cheaper, because at that price point there really are better options.

[@AngelValdovinos]

No chance worth every penny 🤡

[@oliverrojas7117]

Thanks for expressing some positive opinions of the Toyota Corolla Apex. With respect to handling, I am glad Toyota came up with a Corolla that might be considered a 4 door front drive interpretation of a Toyota 86.

[@Shishizurui]

my favorite thing about new cars is we create these overated trim levels call them stuff like SPORT and stuff but rather than upgrading tires,brakes,supsension,horsepower you pay like 10,000$ + for a car that looks like it went down the cosmetics Aisle at an Autozone what kills me to this day as much as i can't stand infotainment systems in cars and rather opt for just a radio with an Aux is they still look like they're just slapped on there not even integrated into the dash

[@JamesOrtonVideo]

love the music and cuts throughout the program!

[@scaldon2]

Highest selling vehicle of all time . Cause its reliable.

[@davisbyer4791]

Yikes, I paid about $26,000 Canadian for my '19 Mazda 3. Outrageous price for a Corolla!

[@jakeb3149]

Car would be perfect with a low displacement v6 or a higher tuned version of the engine in it. Wouldn't mind having this car with the manual.

[@Shadetree_Mechanic]

this should be on cable tv... love this channel

[@ericdolby1622]

I started laughing at that tablet glued on the dash top.

[@dylanmontgomery3695]

I don't mind it, but you mentioned that only a few hundred of this trim would be produced? I don't think they would have trouble selling that many of these cars in manual, rather than just 120. They had an opportunity to make it just a little bit more special if this trim was only available in a standard transmission. Kinda sucks but that's the direction we're headed

[@lucasblanchard47]

Hopefully Toyota will use the profits from this trim level to fund production of the GR Yaris/Corolla/GT86 type of thing in the US!

[@TheHomeExpert5]

How much is this in? This should be priced at $17,000. And it should have a manual transmission.

[@kevinnorris6558]

Well 120 of them have a manual

[@DodgerBlueRobert]

Base Corolla starts at $20k. How could this version be $17k? That makes no sense.

[@TheHomeExpert5]

@@DodgerBlueRobert for what it is, the base Corolla is way way too expensive, the base Corolla should be $15,000.

[@DodgerBlueRobert]

Read Zechariah 12:10 That doesn’t make sense either. This isn’t 2005.

[@TheHomeExpert5]

@@DodgerBlueRobert well, I just picked up a Cadillac ELR, $75,000 car when new, for $17,000. That is a screaming deal. It has 44,000 miles on it what fool would pay 20 + thousand for the lowly Corolla? That doesn't make sense. That old saying, a fool and his money...

[@N8nocrala]

I would argue that a lot of people my age (18-22) are kinda forced to learn how to drive stick, if we want more options when shopping the used car market. it seems like 40% of used cars nowadays are manuals from the mid-to-early 2000s, that’s what I ended up with. Thoughts?

[@kanmuridavid]

Patiently waiting for the GR Corolla.

[@thomaschristopherwhite9043]

My only complaint with modern iterations of Toyota's products is that their cars resemble 0% of old stuff. I wish modern corollas still had elements of the old ae101's. You know, when cars used to look like cars.

[@zalllon]

Dumb car, I don’t know who the buyer would be.

[@CommandoMaster]

Toyota always plays it safe.

[@gene7icspar7an20]

I feel if they just made the Corolla APEX as the normal Corolla SE price range, it would be great. pick it up for 22-24k in manual and it is a good reliable somewhat fun car. This can be an entry lvl car for newbies who want something a tiny bit fast with great handling. I believe this car was not meant for straight line racing or huge performance, it was meant for the togue, just like the AE86 Apex which had like 120 hp but great handling, weight, and size. The price is what makes the Corolla Apex bad though. Again, for 22 to 24 thousand dollars, this would be a good fun sports / daily driver.

[@gt1r]

People talk shit about the Corolla but forget about the AE86. This thing would be crazy fun with a manual & RWD.

[@rondhole]

In Europe they offer it with different name, Corolla GR with 18" wheel. Available with 180HP hybrid 2.0L.

[@MiguelRPD]

I mean honestly I'd buy it. As a daily driver this would be great. A regular car with just a little more personality is great. Something a bit more exciting to when you take your ass to work/school.

[@BarnStangz]

My Pro Wings shoes look almost as good as the Apex! The only problem is during the winter, I need to wear bread bags on my feet to keep them dry.

[@PiroFyre]

MSRP is rumored at $26k for one of these but with so many better options to choose from out there, dealers might have to cut $5k off the price. I just don't understand Toyota and limpdicking their "performance" cars for the US market. They have the resources to make something insanely good. For example, the last gen Corolla chassis is a pretty good chassis. Would've been awesome to have a 2AR-FE under that hood with an LSD. Would've been a great 8th/9th gen Civic Si competitor back then. It just boggles my mind that they don't use the resources they already have. But hey, a 3 cyl turbo with over 200HP is coming out for the Corolla! Like no other car in their lineup is using that motor (besides other GR cars of course) and the car will most likely cost well over $30k. Quite a good chunk of change for the average blue collar worker.

[@060racing8]

The Corolla apex is not available in my country however a base model manual Corolla seems to outperform the competition at the low end of the market more power than it's competitors independent rear suspension manual option

[@GHinWI]

If they’d put the 2.5L Camry engine, manual trans, and limited slip diff in this thing and it would make sense. As is, you’re paying a ton to be beat up by harsh suspension, lo-profile tires, while listening to a cvt drone on. Nope.

[@michaeldoligosa1516]

Were you guys by any chance at the Yard House in Glenview this afternoon? I think I saw you two, and was a tad too starstruck to say hi, haha

[@SemmyRace]

The corolla looks great from outside

[@Losttouchjs]

I’m pretty sure the sunvisor has a retractable piece that comes out from the inside.

[@jasonyoung6420]

Toyota: develops GR Yaris Also Toyota: Asks USA if they want the GR Yaris USA: YES WE WANT IT! Also Also Toyota: yea, nah; you get uprated Corollas instead kaythanksbye. That's what I think the "Apex" trim is doing, testing the waters & developing a trim between the regular corolla and the forthcoming GR Corolla, because there is going to be a substantial price difference between a Corolla and a GR Corolla. P.S. I want the GR Yaris, not a GR Yaris in a fat suit.

[@NGMonocrom]

Realistically, naturally aspirated Toyota 4-cylinder; this could realistically last 300,000 miles or more. That's something I'd never say about _almost_ any other passenger car. This is for someone who wants a very good-looking car with blatantly obvious Sports styling. Something that gets very good fuel economy. Will just last and be hyper reliable for many long years to come. Will hold its value exceptionally well. And just NOT be a headache to own or service. It's for the non-enthusiast whose willing to put up with a stiffer ride, but wants better handling out on the road. If you're someone quite a bit older, you're disgusted by the level of inflation in your country, you're disgusted by the car-buying practices out there and all the games you have to play just to get a decent deal.... You buy an SE Corolla Apex. Cry literally once. Drive it 'til the day you die of old age or get too old and physically feeble to drive at all. Last car purchase of your life. Never deal with dealers ever again. (Assuming some idiot doesn't crash into it and total your car.) As morbid as that sounds, for non-enthusiasts; that sounds heavenly.

[@anthonycastelluci9225]

The V6 from the Camry or at least the 2.5 would have been fun.

[@christamu2]

How did they do it? Purple bolts, that's how.

[@Trades46]

I actually liked how they actually made the Apex look like a bit like a cut-rate Lexus IS 350 F-sport. I honestly wished Toyota would have done a bit of tuning to the M20A-FKS to make it a little more powerful for the Apex edition. As it stands with the price, there are better picks out there, but alas Toyota reliability is and would always be a factor for long term ownership, which is where this makes more sense.

[@lfox02]

1:09 The only reason Mad Desire isn't on there instead is because it's not on Spotify.

[@socksonfeet8125]

Im looking at a manual 2013 Hyundai Veloster for $4000 with under 100k. Saw an ad on FB for this car, looked it up, came here and boy it looks terrible for a $30,000 car. My 2004 GTO costs me $30,000, even though it was 16 years ago, its still a $30,000 purchase. I dont know what these manufacturers are thinking these days, over pricing these kind of cars. This kind of car should be $15,000 tops. Sentra used to be that price, now its in the $20's. There seems to be a giant window of opportunity for a company to sell a manual $15,000 sporty-ish basic car. Front or rear drive won't matter at that price. Becuase there is nothing other than a cheap Mirage at that price point.

[@RussellRobinson77]

Elantra GT N-Line offers basically more of everything for 6k less. (Kia Forte GT if you want the sedan version) . A GTI , BRZ, or WRX for the same price (or a GLI for less). I think the mazda3 turbo is a bit more? Might as well throw in the Mini Cooper S

[@georgehugh3455]

The road noise coming thru in the video tells me all I need to know

[@jaderivi]

hey guys great review as always, stuck between choosing an Elantra ultimate 2021 or corolla SE 2021, which one do you guys recommend?

[@southbayla3137]

We want to see the corolla hybrid first !!!! How does this come before the corolla hybrid ???

[@alishan8880]

I wish they had put a normal asin 5 speed gearbox in it and it would be perfect.

[@robertwilson6682]

You could get an early 2000's Nissan Sentra SR with the same performance as this for like $4,000 and probably cheaper if you look hard enough

[@alexbaker7243]

Holding out for the Corolla GR hatch.

[@9Epicman]

If the new gr corolla is coming out in 1-2 years there isn’t really a reason to get this.

[@sovelissfiremane]

This.. actually looks really good. And that's coming from someone who never really liked the look of the new Corolla sedan. Maybe if they added a bit more power (not much, like 15 hp and a bit more torque in the low end), it could definitely live up to its Apex namesake. Shame that they're making so few of them

[@Dowlphin]

2:28 How does Toyota imagine this? ... _"I refuse to buy it in black. I refuse to buy it in white."_ - Toyota: _"Well, no problem, then we still have a SILVER option for you."_ One less opportunity to offer something appealing with that meager trim level.

[@rhythm_is_life]

They could have at least offered it in red if they were trying to restrict it to original Trueno GT Apex colors only.

[@Dowlphin]

@@rhythm_is_life It's kinda sad to say, but yeah, especially for this specific trim level red would have been better than silver.

[@67tomcat]

It's a good looking Corolla, even somewhat "tasteful". I like the fact it doesn't have a turbo. But, it needs greater availability of the manual transmission.

[@Malinkadink]

The corolla apex is the epitome of all show and no go lol