BMW Z3M Coupe | The Freak Show

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@jpic6098
@jpic6098 4 жыл бұрын
Owner of this particular Z3M Coupé, thanks Mark and Jack for doing the excellent video! As much as I enjoy this car I just don’t fit in it well, so watch for this car on Bring A Trailer in the next few weeks, just waiting for them to finish the listing.
@ptg_st3v3oh62
@ptg_st3v3oh62 4 жыл бұрын
This could've been a good car for Cars and Bids #dougshill
@jpic6098
@jpic6098 4 жыл бұрын
Collidiscope about 6 foot, if you are a thin or thinner build this car could fit a taller person.
@macattack57
@macattack57 4 жыл бұрын
@Collidiscope I'm 6' 2" and I definitely don't fit in the Z3M. I can "drive" it but I definitely don't fit comfortably. I would get a Z4M. I had one of those for a year and a half and it fit me really well.
@LaxMerange
@LaxMerange 4 жыл бұрын
@Collidiscope i own the z4m that they reviewed Earlier this year. I'm 6,2, 325lbs . I'm a big boy... and I fit length wise barely in the z4m, my knees just barely miss the dash , but I have a great amount of head room. its hard getting in and out, but again I'm 325lbs. it was shocking going from any car to the size of Z4m . but if you have driven other small cars , the z4 will feel normal. smaller than toyota 86, almost identical in size as the C7 Corvette, bigger than new supra.
@LaxMerange
@LaxMerange 4 жыл бұрын
J Pic , hit me up. if you are in area, let's meet up, I'm Z4m guy, I live 20 min from SavageGeese shop...
@ChadWilson
@ChadWilson 4 жыл бұрын
I love that this car has no damned computer screen. This is an interior that will remain timeless.
@mauricemotors8207
@mauricemotors8207 4 жыл бұрын
Chad Wilson My Nissan hardbody pickup had induction noise lol it’s throttle body looked like a carb with 4 intake passages lol
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude 4 жыл бұрын
No it won't, this interior screams late 1990's with those black plastic buttons and gratuitous plastic chrome trim pieces on the dials.
@Audidude
@Audidude 4 жыл бұрын
CockatooDude it screams late 90s. Ah maybe because it’s a car from the late 90s? Hilarious how people bag cars for having characteristics that are period correct. That’s a huge part of their appeal - a modern interior in a Z3? LOL!
@CockatooDude
@CockatooDude 4 жыл бұрын
@@Audidude I wasn't trying to bag the interior, I was just pointing out that it isn't timeless like the original commenter claimed.
@Audidude
@Audidude 4 жыл бұрын
@@CockatooDude fair comment 😊👍
@Veritas419
@Veritas419 4 жыл бұрын
One thing that modern cars have lacked for years is full instrumentation. I personally like old school aesthetics of all the round dials.
@tommynobaka
@tommynobaka 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, its tactile. Pagani does this exceptionally well along with aftermarket support with exposed linkage short shifters (ex. K Tuner), vintage style gauges, clock dials, airplane switches and the like
@brendancarlson1678
@brendancarlson1678 4 жыл бұрын
Dials where zero is bottom dead center.
@luke4010
@luke4010 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%. That's why i like the 370z. Even in 2020 they keep their old school interior. Nice and simple
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 3 жыл бұрын
Cars now are like how synthesizers were in the late 80s.
@joshbrock2663
@joshbrock2663 3 жыл бұрын
if tesla had a 'old timer' option to replace that awful sideway TV theyd sell a lot more cars.
@TechPanzer
@TechPanzer 4 жыл бұрын
This has always been one of my favorites cars, and, IMO, the coolest BMW ever made.
@joshbrock2663
@joshbrock2663 3 жыл бұрын
this car was a shooting brake 20 years before shooting brakes were a thing
@_zigger_
@_zigger_ Жыл бұрын
It looks like shit
@sarahdell4042
@sarahdell4042 4 жыл бұрын
I had one 10 years ago. Took me 8 months to sell it! Lower miles, and an even lower price. Crazy to see what these are going for now.
@cmacd8879
@cmacd8879 4 жыл бұрын
Sarah Dell - Ha - you and my wife.... she had an 02 for eight years, loved it but it does beat you up on long drives. Also took almost a year to sell... we suspected it would go up in value but who wants sheds full of cars waiting for a market...
@constructionbootgazer
@constructionbootgazer 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe there are still clean examples out there.
@Hmmm313
@Hmmm313 4 жыл бұрын
I still got mine..red 62k in it..never sell...got racing cams dinan staff and active tune..i love mine...mine is around 380horse...
@sarahdell4042
@sarahdell4042 4 жыл бұрын
C Macd I bought it because I loved how it looked. It was purely used for daily driver duties, along with a 98 328 at the time. Both looked near new, the 328 was a far better car to drive everyday which is why I eventually sold the M coupe. Sold the 328 not long ago, to a neighbor. He flipped it for triple the money 😡
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 3 жыл бұрын
@@cmacd8879 Ide kill for sheds full of cars.
@vaati000
@vaati000 4 жыл бұрын
Just want to say that Jack brings something to the videos that made me start wanting to watch everything through, rather than scan through the thoughts and the driving footage. Y'all got chemistry, love the channel.
@kylem324
@kylem324 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always liked the Z3M Coupe. I think it looks great. It’s different and bold and diminutive in its stature on the road today. Which gives it great street presence that’s different to most collector cars.
@basithph8958
@basithph8958 4 жыл бұрын
The Z3M coupe is a quirky car It is indeed one of BMW’s best cars because it’s just an awesome car to drive
@Audidude
@Audidude 4 жыл бұрын
One of the last raw cars BMW made. That in itself makes it special. As is the Z4MC
@fmcfad01
@fmcfad01 4 жыл бұрын
This has to be the most understated review of an M Coupe I've ever come across given how the M Coupe has such a cult following, has appreciated in value, and become a collector car. You guys almost don't even smile while driving it. Then again, that could be because it's an S52 example ;). Seriously though, every other video about this car is glowing and shows what an emotional response driving this car provides its driver.
@classiccarssp
@classiccarssp 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! Is because of the S52 engine for sure.. the S50/54 is a different game!
@emanon321
@emanon321 4 жыл бұрын
While the Geese and company usually do an exemplary job on the cars featured, sometimes they truly "don't get it." This review is one of those times. Sort of dour and humorless, IMO. The S52 is a wonderful engine and with the Dinan bits even better. I've got one, so I "know." :). It gives up little to the S54 at relatively sane driving speeds on public roads. On a more positive note, Jack adds a lot to the act, and Mark's camera work is exemplary as always.
@fmcfad01
@fmcfad01 4 жыл бұрын
@@emanon321 I've owned an S52 M Coupe and traded up for an S54. Both are fantastic! What's up fellow M Coupe owners!
@bcab7955
@bcab7955 4 жыл бұрын
I love the clown shoe, this was a true driving machine.
@970357ers
@970357ers 4 жыл бұрын
You might say it is... Sure footed!
@amarbirtakhar4213
@amarbirtakhar4213 4 жыл бұрын
Brent Cabot how was the experience for you? I come from miata driving myself so I was always curious about the similarities between the two.
@Gchang54
@Gchang54 4 жыл бұрын
For me it looked like a frat boy baseball cap
@machineslave3
@machineslave3 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe to drive you off a cliff when you realize your wife left you for a guy in a miata. Haha. Jokes!
@amarbirtakhar4213
@amarbirtakhar4213 4 жыл бұрын
Gregory G haha wow.
@PaniMCoupe
@PaniMCoupe 4 жыл бұрын
Such a nicely done review of the Z3 MCoupe, yet no mention of the S54 engine added for the 2001-2002 model years. I imagine if they drove one of those, they would forget about the Z4 MCoupe.
@blauschuh
@blauschuh 4 жыл бұрын
not sure why this review says it's a 2002 model year... all 2001/2002 had the S54.
@corythomas4427
@corythomas4427 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure they also said "the engine from the E36 M3" which yes, had the S52. Being that this is a 2002, it should have the S54 from the E46 M3.
@Audidude
@Audidude 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, that would be a no. Have you driven a Z4MC? If you had you definitely wouldn't forget about it!
@kheldaryt
@kheldaryt 4 жыл бұрын
@@Audidude audidude Z4M Coupe is good but OP is right Z3 based S54 M Coupe is (granted it's subject) soo much better/cooler... (yes have driven both)
@kheldaryt
@kheldaryt 4 жыл бұрын
Yep Z3 based S54 M Coupe is in a different league than this S52 they reviewed. Especially at the time it came out, it was a ridiculously special car.
@Armmani2000
@Armmani2000 4 жыл бұрын
Can't believe how great it looks still after 18 years! Always wanted one of these.
@meisterkleisterr5122
@meisterkleisterr5122 4 жыл бұрын
I was so excited when I saw this in my inbox, I somehow absolutely love the quirkiness and the looks of this car. It’s unique, something which is lacking in today’s auto market. Thank you for reviewing this!
@VG22.
@VG22. 4 жыл бұрын
I dont know why but I love this shape! The ferrari gtc 4 lusso is another car that I find attractive
@chicobear
@chicobear 4 жыл бұрын
Love these past car reviews by SG: they show me how much I missed out on when I was a child.
@diurnalall
@diurnalall 4 жыл бұрын
I love my 2000 M Coupe! For me, it's the handling that's the star of the Clownshoe. Having driven an E46 M3 and supercharged E36 M3 (more powerful BMWs of the same vintage) along with 911s (993C2S and 996TT) and having also previously owned a 987 Cayman S (the latter having IMHO perfect handling characteristics), all I can say is that while the Coupe might not be as fast, and comparably has objective weaknesses in the handling department, it's precisely these qualities that make it interesting and fun to drive. It just doesn't feel like anything else. Stiffness isn't everything! And if you throw in coilovers and other suspension mods, the Coupe is basically as planted as the Cayman while retaining this weird "whip" handling quality that's hard to describe. Maybe it's body roll, maybe it's me about to be launched off the road, but it's intoxicating. I'm also 6'1" and have no real issues in the cabin - it can be a bit tight, but I like that feeling. I've driven it cross-country multiple times, it is a joy to spend time in. The Coupe is, undoubtedly, my forever car.
@samgab
@samgab 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like it’s sagging in the middle between the front and back wheels
@apocalypse487
@apocalypse487 4 жыл бұрын
That's a nice way to call Mark fat
@jamest5149
@jamest5149 4 жыл бұрын
Samgab it’s awkward from many angle. Most cars have an awkward angle but his one doesn’t... have a ‘good’ angle.
@papa_pt
@papa_pt 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamest5149 the rear with those FAT flares
@VersanGetryx
@VersanGetryx 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamest5149 The rear and rear three quarter panel view are pretty great, wide fenders!
@cw205mi16
@cw205mi16 4 жыл бұрын
It's too high at the front, worse when there are people in it since you sit at the back of the car.
@jesseolsen6456
@jesseolsen6456 4 жыл бұрын
Glad they discuss the huge issue on these, which is the rear subframe failure. There's kits out there to fix it, but even the torque of the S52 was to much for the welds in the back of the car. BMW cut corners on reinforcement for the M models. People should look for this when shopping these.
@maxheadroom224
@maxheadroom224 4 жыл бұрын
9:30 - I think he discussed it
@jesseolsen6456
@jesseolsen6456 4 жыл бұрын
@@maxheadroom224 ah I stand corrected, I only heard VANOS. Good on them. Its a serious issue... should have showed it while under the rear. Fixed comment.
@maxheadroom224
@maxheadroom224 4 жыл бұрын
@@jesseolsen6456 No worries, I'm sure any BMW geek willing to buy a clownshoe would find out well before purchasing one.
@cmacd8879
@cmacd8879 4 жыл бұрын
Jesse Olsen - it was the reason we sold our 02 after eight years... just didn't want to be moving into "classic" ownership with potential frame issues.
@infidel900rr
@infidel900rr 4 жыл бұрын
Miss my old Boston green E36 M3! Favorite car I've had yet.
@NickHazletonMusic
@NickHazletonMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Great color! I miss my 1999 cosmos black on Sand beige coupe 😢
@tx4runner459
@tx4runner459 4 жыл бұрын
I usually don’t like BMWs but I’ll be honest, this is one of the few BMW cars I’d buy. Z3M Hatch. E39 M5 E39 M5 is a sleeper if you don’t know anything about cars and the Z3M is so different you wouldn’t know what it is and when you did find out, you’d call it ugly. It’s quirky and ugly but cool at the same time due to the rarity of it.
@lkr8013
@lkr8013 4 жыл бұрын
Good taste in cars, I currently own both of them and reviews on my actual cars are here if you are interested kzbin.info/www/bejne/iai5f4OZjKdlkJI and kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJXGkoaVhax7aKc
@Audidude
@Audidude 4 жыл бұрын
Have a Z4MC now, and previously an E39 M5. That M5 is an astonishing car. Arguably the best sedan ever made. The Z4MC is totally different. Raw, unrefined in comparison, and far better connected. Totally different goals superbly met by both. Wish I still had the M5, but it was looking like an engine rebuild within the next couple of years. Replaced with a 911 996 Carrera 2 manual, which shares space with the Z4. Almost identical performance, totally different cars. My channel has videos of both.
@fredwilliams7893
@fredwilliams7893 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love how honest and raw you are about viewers cars you review with out worrying about hurting there feelings. 👍
@strangeskull
@strangeskull 4 жыл бұрын
I have always absolutely loved these cars!!!....thank you so much for doing this video!!
@mynt253
@mynt253 4 жыл бұрын
I love it. It looks like a small, 2-door E39 Touring from a rear 3/4 angle, which I love, and the front isn't bad either.
@kdrguru
@kdrguru 4 жыл бұрын
S54 in Estoril blue is the holy grail.
@LegionEmu396
@LegionEmu396 3 жыл бұрын
Very lucky to have had a coworker with one and got to get behind the wheel of a few times, the only BMW I've ever REALLY enjoyed driving
@sebastiantoplician1093
@sebastiantoplician1093 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! This car is really unique and I've always loved it. They are quite rare and worth a lot now as well. If you guys are trying to do a few more older cars, have a look at maybe a 2007 or 2008 350z MT either a nismo (the engineering for these nismos was much different), or a roadster is also super fun in a manual for those two years. Cheers!
@derJackistweg
@derJackistweg 4 жыл бұрын
I drive one in Germany - actually a 3.0 with mostly M suspension parts - since 10 years and 90.000 km and I do not agree with several things: - I don´t know what this miata thing is in the US, but this is just something different in most ways. - seating position: It is NOT very much possibilities! NO steering adjustment. Seat rear only very limited. - It is not a short coming we will fit this engine product! You can expect that BMW had in its mind always an M version since E30 generation. - cheap development: M is always a "cheap" Version - IF you want to call it like this. Better engine and better suspension - that is what M is about (+some interior stuff) - yes it is soft and has a lot of travel - like ALL 90ies developed cars. - long gears:? I am not aware of a different gearbox for the US. Mine is: 55 km/h in 1. @6700RUM, 100km/h in 2 @ 6700 RPM and 244 km/h in 5. @ 6700 RPM, all tested with GPS 3500 RPM is 70 mph/120 km/h - I would say this is very high geared! -BUT is has character, beginning from the design to the way you sit in this car with extremely limited space in the front! - Your hand falls automatically on the gear stick - which is excellent! Never had anything close incl modern cars and 2019 Miata Coupe or 2008 JCW Mini that I had (awful gearbox) - Engine sounds great w/o exhaust terror like my 2008 JCW Mini e.g. - it turns great with a more sporty suspension - seating just in front of the rear tires is fun It is NOT all great an it revs like crazy! what you can see in mph. But the punch you get is just good for its league. My direct comparison to my 2008 JCW: 210 HP/ 1180 kg vs 231 HP/ 1350 - I "feel" waaaay more accelerated and thrilled by my Z3QP that the JCW - though they are probably even fast. Especially on Autobahn between 120 km/h and 200 km/h the Z3 feels faster. 70 to 130 mph. It is about the connection to the street. btw: I fitted an tent, a sleeping bag, cooker, cooling box, chair inside to a trip inkl. Subwoofer - all below the window area.
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 3 жыл бұрын
Miata = MX-5
@derJackistweg
@derJackistweg 3 жыл бұрын
@@fortheloveofnoise MX5 RF = Coupé
@DaddyDan77
@DaddyDan77 4 жыл бұрын
This version was sometimes nicknamed the "Bread Van" - you sure could carry a lot of streusel to Düsseldorf.
@fasfivo
@fasfivo 4 жыл бұрын
I've also heard them called the Smurf Hearse. My '00 is the twin of the one in the vid - with a few more miles.
@funkyfurballs1078
@funkyfurballs1078 3 жыл бұрын
That name belongs to the Lotus Europa S1!
@asifalimirza
@asifalimirza 4 жыл бұрын
Nice car @J pic. Thanks for sharing it with all of us through Savagegeese, my favorite youtube car reviewers (yes, I like you too Throttle House!). Good luck on selling your car
@topiasr628
@topiasr628 4 жыл бұрын
God. Such a good looking car. I will own one one day
@thewheeltroll1833
@thewheeltroll1833 4 жыл бұрын
Damn! This is gold! Was really waiting on you guys to review an M coupe one day!
@BearingPhMotoring
@BearingPhMotoring 4 жыл бұрын
This video is beautifully crafted! Simply superb!
@babochee
@babochee 4 жыл бұрын
That intro.... to another level.
@robevans916
@robevans916 4 жыл бұрын
Love these reviews of older stuff. Especially seeing how far chassis and mechanical development have come in 20-30years.
@cw205mi16
@cw205mi16 4 жыл бұрын
The rear suspension was based on the E30, so was already 20yrs old in design when new.
@cranixten2620
@cranixten2620 4 жыл бұрын
I love when you guys do a 90's and early 2000 vehicles. In my opinion they are the best of reliability and drivability.
@blues03
@blues03 4 жыл бұрын
I like how Jack kind of steered the conversation at 12:10, it felt very natural and unscripted. Good stuff.
@travistiffany5585
@travistiffany5585 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how anything thinks this is ugly. I love it.
@mikesmcoupe9259
@mikesmcoupe9259 3 жыл бұрын
I love this review - thanks for showing these cars the love they deserve
@HMAKmusic
@HMAKmusic 4 жыл бұрын
Ah Clown Shoe finally!👍😂
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I think he called it a "clown car", but I remember the "clown show" nickname. That being said, I don't find it ugly. I find the front better than the 'cow nostrils' Z4 and the rear gives it some kind of classic-car-from-forgotten-eras vibe, especially in that dark green. And the voluminous rear is also strongly associated with drifting when you throw that weight around, and intended.
@michaelgrayson409
@michaelgrayson409 4 жыл бұрын
Ninja’d. 2nd for Clown Shoe.
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 4 жыл бұрын
@Robert Blackford Time index? Can't be bothered to browse the video again.
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 9 ай бұрын
That's an aftermarket ZHP shifter. Massive improvement. Luv and Peace.
@MrDave330i
@MrDave330i 3 жыл бұрын
Small part of me died when I had to sell my '99 Z3M Coupe. 2 major weakness with the car from the E30 parts bin. The rubber rear subframe mounts were garbage & diff mount could tear. It's what happens when you 2x the power output of E30s.
@Post_Leako
@Post_Leako 4 жыл бұрын
I know you guys have already done the M2, but I'd actually be really curious to hear your opinions on the M240i Coupe RWD 6MT. I've been looking at that one a lot and on paper anyway it seems like the Goldilocks throwback bimmer, but I could be wrong. Keep up the good work.
@pascutia
@pascutia 4 жыл бұрын
With the M240i, everything is pretty great except for the steering. For some reason, it's super soft off center and there's a lack of feel. The B58 and the manual combo is pretty great.
@Post_Leako
@Post_Leako 4 жыл бұрын
@@pascutia That's what I've heard watching the Straight Pipes video, but I wanna see Savagegeese's take since he's more in depth. Sadly, there are none around me for me to try out.
@ohadparan2853
@ohadparan2853 4 жыл бұрын
This car came out when I was in high school and a friend of mine got one as a birthday present (I know, right?). Anyway I think it looks bad ass but I own a Volvo 1800ES shooting brake, so you know where my tastes lie. Dinan, based in Mountain View California is the best after-market parts manufacturer for BMW in North America. In fact, adding a Dinan tune is THE ONLY after market part that does not void the factory warranty of a BMW. Its not a surprise that the exhaust looks good after 20 years. Their part are better than factory parts.
@spannersautoandcomputerser1649
@spannersautoandcomputerser1649 2 жыл бұрын
S54 engine is the one with Rod bearing issues. Not the S52 or S50, they are both very solid and reliable. Vanos maintenance included that is.
@BoostedAP1
@BoostedAP1 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer my S2000 over my M Coupe on the track. The M Coupe is a fun car just to cruise around in and have people stop you to conversate, something that never happens in the S2000. Good video and glad to see the schuh on review.
@rockinviper09
@rockinviper09 4 жыл бұрын
2:36 Ben Mallah reference? Lmao, love that guy.
@UBdead
@UBdead 4 жыл бұрын
Scrolled all the way through the comments to find someone who noticed. "MUNNEY". Shout out to big Ben
@ThePhazdOne
@ThePhazdOne 4 жыл бұрын
Viper in the Final Thoughts 😳
@pimptamitis
@pimptamitis 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like a gen 4 - so excited!
@Turshin
@Turshin 4 жыл бұрын
Gen 3 or 4
@MikeDarnold501
@MikeDarnold501 4 жыл бұрын
Mark keeping it real, "No, it hasn't aged well." hahaha!
@emanon321
@emanon321 4 жыл бұрын
Mark is wrong. Period. :)
@ekscalybur
@ekscalybur 3 жыл бұрын
@@emanon321 He hasn't been wronger. Shooting brake body styles are timeless, and that has a lot to do with their rarity.
@shawkinguk
@shawkinguk 4 жыл бұрын
Did we switch to driving a Porsche at 11:15???
@dcb1728
@dcb1728 4 жыл бұрын
Was just about to make this comment
@dcb1728
@dcb1728 4 жыл бұрын
It's a 997 911
@randysams9331
@randysams9331 4 жыл бұрын
For sure. I've got a LOT of miles looking over a coupe hood, and that ain't the view.
@tarekz9992
@tarekz9992 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, too many panning shots however, also liked it more when you used arrows to point at the suspension components
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 4 жыл бұрын
Mark and Jack should make a video about BMW inline 6 cylinder turbo diesel, like in E46 330cd with 6 speed manual. Especially something from the end of production and after ecu-tune. Very popular daily driver for average car guy in Europe. This was one of the first truly powerfull diesels loved by car enthusiast down here.
@chrisdigiovanni3155
@chrisdigiovanni3155 4 жыл бұрын
Might want to edit the description. This isn't a 2002, this is a 99 or 2000 holding the S52 engine. The S54 is in the 01/02 models.
@jpic6098
@jpic6098 4 жыл бұрын
Chris DiGiovanni correct 2000
@mikewazowski7613
@mikewazowski7613 4 жыл бұрын
My man Jack said it feels like a GOD DAMN HOBBIT HOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jesus that cracked me up. Great review as always.
@johnandrew552
@johnandrew552 3 жыл бұрын
I really admire the effort, great vid man!
@kingcrab750
@kingcrab750 4 жыл бұрын
The Z3 coupe always reminds me of the Jagdpanzer Elefant tank destroyer, sans gun barrel.
@DynoDunes
@DynoDunes 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Turbowski contribute to the vocals of the intro song.
@fwebe2871
@fwebe2871 4 жыл бұрын
Well i do like longer gearing ratios, as long as first gear is fully usable on public roads. With such kind of engines, 30 mph should be reached at about 6000 rpm in first gear and everythin above is an engine given bonus of speed. As for daily driving "normal" gearing ratios (~1000 - 1500 rpm every 5 mph) are far superior and you can still utilise the whole rpm band, if you downshift to at least first gear.
@alexgutica176
@alexgutica176 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I am not sure if you meant it as an easter egg but the hood shots certainly look to be from the 997 video :)
@brunocapetta946
@brunocapetta946 4 жыл бұрын
When it came out in Italy, some business owners added a divider between the front seat and the truck to register it as a van and get the VAT refund. One DMV employee casually found it out scrolling the refund list - BMW M was pretty odd among Ford, Fiat, etc. :-)
@larrysmith6797
@larrysmith6797 4 жыл бұрын
All of Mark's videos are freak shows.
@CU08
@CU08 4 жыл бұрын
So, basically BMW has had VANOS, throttle body and rod bearing issues for almost 20yrs and still refuse to rectify it. This is the type of BS that keeps me from wanting to pick one up used. They should simply come out and say they purposely build these cars to fail with higher mileage. Incredible driving machines, and I keep slipping into wanting an M car used, but the fact you consistently hear problems across the board that cause catastrophic failures, and seem to be intended to fail, is what keeps me away.
@gabspopo2300
@gabspopo2300 4 жыл бұрын
Vanos problems got solved. E36 S50B32s need 100 000 km vanos rebuilds. M3 E46s require them less frequently, and E92s not at all since the system is alot more simple. I've never heard of throttle body issues on E36 M3s S50 engines. The 6 itbs work perfectly well. As for rod bearrings, it's not an issue that can be solved. It is inherant to the engine's designs. Having long stroke engine perform as much as S50B32s, S54B32s and S65/S85s do leads to very heavy loads on the bearings naturally. And for some design reason they can't make the bearings larger so the issue continues. Lastly, the Eurospec S50B32, which I have, and have had, does not really suffer from rod bearing issues. It suffers more from idiot issues. I sold last year my M3 3.2 sedan which had over 200 000 miles. I had done the bearings at around that mileage and they were in very good shape. However, the car I bought was first hand, and the old man who sold it to me, and who'd used it everyday, did an oil change every 8000 miles or so, every year and some times twice a year. He waited untill the oil was at 100°C to really push it on. People expect from BMW M engines the same kind of reliability as basic BMW engines, with the same maintenance. The truth is you can't have both. Having an N/A engines which puts out 100hp/Liter will inevitably oblige some thorough maintenance. The only criticism I have to make towards BMW is letting people believe that 15 ou 20 000 miles intervals in oil change, is a good idea, when in reality the engines need 4 to 6000 miles oil changes max.
@BrakRulesAll
@BrakRulesAll 4 жыл бұрын
Oh please. Don't perpetuate this crap. Yes, there are some vanos issues, but not major. Throttle bodies? No. Not on this car, not on any S54. The Z4M has proven to be a VERY stout car overall. Rod bearings? Yeah, eventually, though many have gone well over 100k miles without touching them. The paranoia over this stuff has been amplified on the interwebs by people who don't even own these cars.
@krissz22
@krissz22 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark while watching this there was an add for a Volvo plug in... I don't like electric cars or volvos but... give it a review :D
@SecondFaster
@SecondFaster 4 жыл бұрын
Nice drone shot at the College. Love the vids, Scott mentioned you a while ago, been subscribed ever since.
@davidraezer5937
@davidraezer5937 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the quirky styling of the clown shoe but I did not like the rear trailing arm suspension. It’s weird geometry made the rear feel loose and unsettled on off camber roads. Always felt like I had to be on the lookout for oversteer when you didn’t expect it. Whereas my 911 was much more predictable.
@juliustan9647
@juliustan9647 4 жыл бұрын
If SavageGeese needs a car mascot, this is it. The shape of the car is shaped like a geese head, its unique , its business class, its sport M.
@timsautovision6145
@timsautovision6145 4 жыл бұрын
They had the s50 from 2001 to 2003
@automotrev1082
@automotrev1082 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite M Cars! Great Vid!
@ACCAW11
@ACCAW11 4 жыл бұрын
My dad had a 2000 M Roadster that we did some mods to and by the end was at 300whp. The mod list was fairly long and it was a blast to drive. Definitetly the better looking version of the car compared to the coupe.
@_Ezio__Auditore_
@_Ezio__Auditore_ 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, once again. It made me go back and watch the Z4M video. After watching them, I am thinking that it would be quite informative to see your review of a first and/or second-generation Cayman S and how it compares to the Z3/4M. Please, find one or both to review...you mention the Z4M basically being the best driver's car you can get for the price (when referring the $37k used tag), but I think the Cayman is possibly even better!
@Audidude
@Audidude 4 жыл бұрын
Check out Richard Hammond's comparison of Z4MC and Boxster S on KZbin . Fun and good conclusion.
@Joey856721
@Joey856721 4 жыл бұрын
Dude what song is that in the beginning intro part, that indie stuff is fuckin amazing
@tachtimewatches7122
@tachtimewatches7122 4 жыл бұрын
One of the coolest BMWs ever produced!
@joellopez1637
@joellopez1637 4 жыл бұрын
I see that beautiful yellow s2k in the back. Give it a like to show them we want more s2000 content.
@robertheger9048
@robertheger9048 4 жыл бұрын
95` e36 M3with 317.000 miles What rod bearing issues? Rear sub frame cracking? In race track configuration with slicks maybe.
@MrFormcode
@MrFormcode 4 жыл бұрын
We need more Shooting Brake cars in the world.
@ryadhasanahmed5443
@ryadhasanahmed5443 4 жыл бұрын
If you can, can you review the 2004 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS Dale Earnhardt edition like the one RCR did few weeks ago, I wanna see your take on it
@Doggepp
@Doggepp 4 жыл бұрын
As an S50 owner, there really isnt any rod bearing issues compared to the S54. Maybe 1% of what the S54 has. I honestly cant even think of the last time I saw or heard someone that had rod bearing failures on a S50B30/32.
@jrvapor
@jrvapor 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought this car looked good, most people don't even know what I'm talkin about when I say Z3 M coupe, sat in on at the Javits center in NYC years ago, what don't people like, the 2nd generation came with 330 hp, 6 speed manual, fully independent suspension, I think it looks like its inspired by the Jaguar E type sort of.
@soapbar88
@soapbar88 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please review the new caddy with the dual volute turbo system and figure out why it exists if it's worse than a v8
@CanadaLuke
@CanadaLuke 4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is the hood shot at 11:16 totally not the Z3. That looks like a Porsche front with the 2 bulging headlights lol
@johnaitken7430
@johnaitken7430 4 жыл бұрын
I test drove one back then and hated pedal position ..but loved it otw..
@Guy-mx4fb
@Guy-mx4fb 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you recognize that it is ugly to some, i love it, but everyone i know thinks it's ugly
@lawszepie
@lawszepie 4 жыл бұрын
oh boy I cant wait for that Viper review
@bmw3-er
@bmw3-er 4 жыл бұрын
I really want one.
@creakid
@creakid 9 ай бұрын
I still went ahead to sacrifice the body structure & collected a 2002 Roadster 3.0 w/ OEM hardtop in order to widen the rear (for passing) visibility: 10:08 Btw, is M's LSD better (or more predictable, etc.) than 3.0's Torsen?
@jayman81424
@jayman81424 4 жыл бұрын
First car was a 96 4 cylinder Z3. It was slow as shit, but i miss it.
@_kunkle
@_kunkle 4 жыл бұрын
out of all of these, why haven't they done the E46 M3??!!
@Rio356
@Rio356 Жыл бұрын
Those hood shots are from the 997.
@edobec2
@edobec2 4 жыл бұрын
Please review Mazda RX8 next. Is it really that unreliable?
@moloono1
@moloono1 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t appreciate this channel enough. Spread the word and subscribe fellow fans!!!
@MyGoToUserName
@MyGoToUserName 4 жыл бұрын
I see a gen 4 viper in the background during final thoughts.
@jh1328
@jh1328 4 жыл бұрын
Welp - prepare for the prices on these to go up now because of this video.
@Ruggedjellyfishing
@Ruggedjellyfishing 4 жыл бұрын
I want this car so badly
@robosullivan704
@robosullivan704 4 жыл бұрын
I had a95 z28 in the same color and loved it at the time but I don't now.. It's word how certain thing change
@JohnMarcar
@JohnMarcar 4 жыл бұрын
Nice vid... although just one 'negative' comment... maybe crop out the Porsche bonnet and wings for the forward facing rolling shots in the future. It's okay to pretend... just don't make it too obvious ;-)
@blauschuh
@blauschuh 4 жыл бұрын
Love my 2001... wife asks me to sell the damn thing quite often
@jeppejensen5612
@jeppejensen5612 4 жыл бұрын
This thing reminds me so much of the Ferrari gtc4 lucco
@RealBearFace
@RealBearFace 4 жыл бұрын
I see a couple of these here in NJ and I always kind of want one
@DDd-hr6mz
@DDd-hr6mz 4 жыл бұрын
I wanted this car when it was time to buy a new one. I just couldn't find one with the price and condition I needed. New, no one wanted one. Now, they're bad ass.
@carleynorthcoast1915
@carleynorthcoast1915 4 жыл бұрын
what is the point of a small car if it weighs as much as a bigger car?
@muller08049
@muller08049 4 жыл бұрын
I love these cars! Love the body style!
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