WILL MY SALVAGE MERCEDES C63 START?!? PT.3

[@geenicoll2920]

You were due a break, maybe this is it. Love the sound of a V8 on cold start.

[@thetruthwillout3347]

The damage to the under tray and bumper could have been caused by the forks on the machine they use at Copart. See it all the time.

[@scottchristie3503]

I think I'd be checking the vin numbers match,making sure the physical vin plates haven't been tampered with and getting intouch with a dealership to get its history..could end up being a "ringer"

[@Mcbrand67]

It probably was just parked in a flooded area, or rear ended in a small stream. There is mould on the steering wheel. In my experience the insurance will dump any vehicle that was partial under water because off the electrical gremlins in the future, Take your win with this one. Sounds awesome!

[@sebastianguerre6868]

If it's been driven through a ford and wouldn't start it might have dried out over the weeks it's been stood.

[@janrygel6573]

The early versions of this C63 are having problems with head bolts. The bolts holding head to block may get looser if they are from factory. Facelift or later versions are okay with this.

[@metz_86]

That’s a pre facelift model You can tell from the headlights and pop out screen. Later models have a built in screen and different headlight design. Looks like it also has a resonator delete and maybe a secondary cat delete. The M156 engine is known to tap when the oil is low/cold as it doesn’t reach the top of the cams fully Over time the lobes wear down and creates a tapping sound, new cams are costly. Also fuel injectors get stuck open, ‘flooding’ the engine with fuel and causing a hydro lock Maybe that’s what they mean by flooding???

[@thejoneseys]

I really didn't expect that to run let alone idle properly! That's a real bonus so far, still need to confirm the gearbox isn't toast before confirming a winner 😁

[@armands3863]

Thanks for the spoilers 😅

[@retrorebuild8027]

You ruined the video for me thanks 👍

[@ada-ey3xd]

Right just opened the comments and seen this.

[@marcusmooney2539]

I don’t know if you follow Legit Street Cars, but he knows a lot about Mercedes. It may well be worth reaching out to him 🙂👍

[@018139548]

You are right man..

[@garytaylor9474]

Something that showed on the video is possible forklift fork damage on the under tray and bumper.. They do use extra long forks but you can't stop some damage.

[@tuurkishman]

Your getting some good luck because of all the hard work you did on the audi. Nice videos 📹 👍

[@MattyEngland]

Just a word of warning on those Chinese compression testers. They're fine for comparing one cylinder to another, but when used to get a compression figure, the one I had underread by a huge amount.

[@Eastbarn1]

Mercedes bonnets have had a latch to allow the bonnet to go vertical for decades. Very useful.

[@mrclowniuk]

After a cold start I was suspecting rod bearings located at the bottom end. Very common in these engines. After a while the sound settled out. Please check the gearbox for issues and it might be just a flooded car. British standards to qualify the car to be written off are so strange for me.

[@CON1FER]

Tapping for split second on start up is just cam adjusters being empty of oil after standing. Sometimes they drain down sometimes they don’t depending on car. Very common on AMG 63 engines

[@MattyEngland]

Insurance company will usually write off any 'flooded' car out of fear of electrical gremlins. In some cases the water may not even have been deep enough to get inside, but with an older vehicle it isn't worth the cost of getting an assessor to examine it, they just write it off and send to a Salvage auction.

[@szocspyotr6534]

that initial knocking is due to the chain slapping on the retainer in lack of oil pressure, many of these engines have them. There are many videos like that on youtube where you could compare.

[@HaydenAutomotive97]

That initial rattle first time is the cam adjusters, basically overtime the locking pin backing plates wear/oval out which causes the adjuster to move about from that freeplay in the plate, which until oil pressure builds it pushes the pin out. It’s a pretty common thing on the w204 c63 well any Mercedes’ with the m156, there are rebuild kits on the market which just supply new pins and plates but that rattle will generally only be on cold when the oil pressure has dropped.

[@anurbanpenguin8890]

I think you may have just exposed an insurance scam. 'Written off' whilst the prices for things like this were crazy.

[@auwz66]

Thats my gut feeling too. I still think there will be possible issues, maybe it needs a rebuild and is a little down on power or something like that. Or possibly trans is playing up.

[@tiguanman1170]

@@auwz66 This car is on other YT videos showing various tuning maps and being thrashed. Needs a transmission and diff check now. Engine is not much use if power doesn't go to the wheels.

[@auwz66]

@@tiguanman1170 Ah that makes sense! :)

[@imranyaqub1790]

This is getting more interesting with every video. Serious bonus result on the startup idle. Sounds like it wants to run fast. Hopefully the insurance company won't come looking for it.

[@HugoRS10]

The metal noise on the start up is the hydraulic tensioner momentarily adjusting until Oil pressure built up that's why it was then no longer audible once it was iddlimg.

[@HollyBerryDOOG]

Engines are actually quite tough unless you get a proper hydraulic lock. Spun bearings etc happen but they’re rare. Don’t hammer your cars from cold peeps

[@criticalbrisket]

Brilliant footage at 14:41 - I think we can all see the cogs whirring in your head processing the sound of the engine - it does sound sweet!

[@MirceaD28]

It's a snapped bolt there. Try to see what the service manual says. If the head of the bolt is in the engine might cause problems... Check the camshaft from the other side to see if it's the same.

[@aidanlee2871]

that metallic rattle should be a cam adjuster rattle. Perhaps you can reach out to Alex from Legit Street Cars in the states, he's an ex-Mercedes dealer mechanic and knows everything about these m156s.

[@jpoonan1664]

Wheels repaired and front underside damaged, looks like it was driven up a kerb at speed and the wheels badly repaired then put on the rear to avoid suspicion. I'd be checking the suspension all round.

[@RichOvertonGasoline]

I would definitely let the engine warm up and see if you get the misfire back. It’s the early engine and they suffer with head bolts failure, when the engine warms up the head lift off the block and it causes a misfire. I had this happen to my 2009 C63, it ran great until it warmed up and then it would misfired. Im sure it not that maybe it’s just categorised wrong👍🏻

[@andrewtognola1116]

I bought a very high spec Mini Cooper from Copart with flood damage that wouldn’t start and turned out to be a burnt out starter motor , £45 pounds and an hours work it was running perfectly . I couldn’t find any water either .

[@Kieren.5]

Our c63 does that rattle on start up mercedes said its the camshaft adjusters building oil pressure. When they wear a bit they do that along as it don't last a minute the noise they said it's fine.

[@markweston427]

Now it runs change the oil and filter again check gearbox oil n diff gallon of fresh V power and a gentle drive around the your yard hopefully it’s all ok 👍🏻 🙏🏻😉

[@33rudedude]

noise on start up is just a worn dowel in one of the cam adjusters , until it throws up a error don't worry about it sweet !

[@bill3021]

Just a sugesytry getting hold of the old owner either through the last garage who serviced it by ringing dealer and asking them to pass your number on ! I had to do this on a van I had a few years back ended up getting a stolen marker removed from hpi certification

[@andrewkidger7048]

Nothing wrong with that engine, sounds great, the cars a bit of a mystery but looks a good un, would change those dodgy repaired alloys and get the wheel alignment sorted but other than that all looks good, nice one Dean, well done.

[@_Mark_H]

Sound bloomin awesome! Can’t wait for the road test. You said it had history on another KZbin channel. Can you not suss out if it’s been abused or had an incident there or reach out to the channel and ask some questions? Good luck 👍🏼👍🏼🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@grahamfoster9404]

Oh bugger it, i'm going for a start !!! Way to go mate , this looks promising Dean. About 99% of the comments are all for a sucess , i,m keeping me fingers crossed me legs crossed and everything else i,ve got two of. Cant wait for the follow up . Best of luck with it mate.....

[@marksaunders2500]

Hi from durham dean 👋👍amg sounds a dream mate 👌 great score of road test goes well👍 and if car goes to auction they dont jump them off they just list as non runner but once cars been running and driving leave heaters on full heat till cockpit red hot (hot as can be no air con on tho) and when leave it to cool down the windows will fog up if there is moisture in cockpit anywhere mate👌 hope everything goin ok at work etc 👍 thanks for your time and be safe see you soon 👍👋

[@liamcinq]

That's a pre face-lift w204, the face-lift came in 2011 That's maybe when they didn2 batteries however you did get 2 batteries in a 2009 A Class. Face-lift w204 has no pop up screen it's fixed in the dash.

[@keithmatthews1673]

A guess: Driver goes though a shallow flood, car gets water in engine electrics and engine stops. Car gets recovered to main dealers who have several other 'flood damaged cars' - after the 2007 floods a local BMW dealer had "about 20" flood cars awaiting assessment so dealers don't get them in ones. In this case maybe the dealership did not do a very thorough assessment or thought this one had been checked when it had notand confirmed 'flood damage' to the insurer who took it a face value - maybe the pandemic meant changes to inspection policy. So car is shipped off to Copart and in the meantime the engine has dried out. Enter Saving Salvage who takes a chance and for once gets a lucky bargain - he deserves a break after a few dodgy ones!

[@eamonkelly2792]

Jesus that sounds amazing Dean, can't wait to see if the gearbox is OK and how it drives 👍👍

[@jamiebutler7648]

I bought a flood damaged focus off Copart. It started fine like this after putting a new battery on it. Went for a drive and it died. Just needed an alternator. Lovely but that one.

[@stevenmoran4060]

Possibly it was in a car park that got flooded like the one in York or Iron Bridge a few months ago but it never got water higher than the wheels. When removed from said location nobody attempted to start it as several other cars were buggered in the same location and all got recovered by the recovery agents probably called in to clear al the cars by police or council. Then, as it was classed as recovered from a flood area nobody, insurance agent included, ever tried to start it probably because by then the battery was flat. The assumption has been made water damaged the electrical system and it was an easy write off for the insurance company as they probably had a good few cars from that location. You being the first person to attempt a start discovered it runs. Front under tray and bumper could easily have been broken in the recovery process as the assumption was it was buggered anyway. You could do with lifting the carpet to see if any water came is there but I doubt it.

[@stephenwilliamson1491]

Pre 2006 mercs had a electrical breaking system. Ats what the battery was for. But they went back to a ABS system cause it was dangerious.

[@jamest5149]

Glad you have had a bit of luck 🍀 👍 Can you reach out to the previous owner?

[@waynehyde8754]

The sun roof drains get blocked there is 6 of them then water runs down under the carpet pull the carpet up in the passenger side front mine was wet under there

[@MrIDFWU]

Tappet noise. When the car warms up and oil circulates to the top of the engine that noise should stop!! Also if the car hasn’t been started for a while this can happen!

[@generalt1090]

Sounds great! Can’t wait to see the next video for a run in it!! Hopefully the gearbox is not damaged! Good luck with the next phase of this one!!

[@letsflyaway1]

Take it around the yard and finish them old tyres off😃

[@daevidcrawley6936]

Proper made up for you. Sounds awesome! Really didn't expect to run that well! Keep the great videos coming....really enjoy the detailed analysis and your thought process 😀

[@craigroberts3732]

The guys at JR garage bought a flooded Maserati and it was similar situation until the engine blew up … it could be some engine internals are bad … or it could just be sone water for in and screwed up electrics, then dried out and is now fine …

[@broken12367]

Looks like you’ve had a result there Dean it’s about time.

[@alexfawcett1448]

Fantastic if it starts , half the battle . Could be on to a winner here

[@TheRocco1971]

Every dog has his day, nice catch mate! Looking forward to seeing you pump that freed up money into smartening it up :)

[@StaticVapour590]

Hmm, maybe it's fine. To be honest i'd test drive it few times if there is something with misfires

[@whathasxgottodowithit3919.]

Quick flip at the actions "Runs & Drives"

[@hughjarse4627]

Think you need to check the timing adjusters that sounds like the only thing wrong with it one bank sounds slightly out

[@suffolkandgood]

I remember hearing in another video that it was previously owned by someone on KZbin…might be worth doing a bit of digging to find out what happened that way. Can’t hurt to ask!

[@mercedes_and_more]

Glad you found the service position bonnet too useful 👍👍👍😂😂😂 Vorsprung durch Technik!!! And who said the engine was running when it was flooded - could have been parked???

[@johnpiggford9145]

Love your videos, it's a bit of a mystery, looking forward to the next installment.

[@trevorshields7347]

I'm so pleased for you. Bout time things went your way. Result!

[@mrgrumpy5116]

possible stuck timing chain tensioner ?? could it be, sometimes they get a bit of dirt in then it can flush out, or the tensioner loses oil pressure and returns before being pressurised again , especially if the oil has been drained from the pump, worth thinking about, if it seems ok get ready to put fresh oil in, or filter the old oil again first look to see if there is anything in the filter.

[@steveegginton535]

This is a weird one but as of now you are definitely ahead on points! Hope the box is OK and looking forward to seing the test drive on the C63

[@77BenWells]

Not got to the engine start yet, but I'm saying top end......low compression on those two cylinders is a concern!

[@Tombo1904]

There’s no reward without risk and looks like you’ve just hit the jackpot 🎰 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@nickmitton7350]

Sounds gorgeous mate. A good test drive will mean it's a win win for you . Fingers 🤞 crossed.!!

[@markoverton5858]

Sweet sound, really do get your thinking it can’t be that sound, but after the fs4 you need this luck 👍👍👍👏👏😎

[@scottbrooks3402]

Can't beat the sound of a Merc V8. Sound the best of the German V8's. Exhaust mods are Secondary de cat and Res delete, makes them sound amazing

[@leetaylor5348]

Well ,that is a strange one !!! But let's hope that copart , did not try to start it , &maybe it was only stood in water up to the axels ???? , so let's hope you have had some luck , for a change! !!!

[@018139548]

I hear crackles in the exhaust during the start-up. Nice bargain you got on this one..

[@scottdoel5423]

Fair play I think you’ve got lucky . Awesome car too . Don’t normally like merc’s but like this one

[@craigmillard5083]

You my friend have had an absolute touch with this car, well on the face of it anyway. Great video as normal Dean. Looking forward to the next update. 😁👍

[@broken12367]

MSL PERFORMANCE UK had this tuned to 510 bhp 3 months ago on their KZbin page.

[@einfelder8262]

Surprising that it idled so well without the MAF sensors....... The access to the passenger cover being tight is almost certainly bad engine mount.

[@SavingSalvage]

The access was okay, I could get on the bolt, but it was just so tight it rounded instead of come lose, but there isn’t enough room to get anything else down there to get it out 😬

[@kennadod2080]

That sounds so good. Love the content Dean. Absolute brucey bonus with this I think

[@tobygroves2112]

YOLO-ing a 6.2L V8 - love it :D

[@robertvincent3861]

Hi the alloys is probably lead balance.

[@JohanLind]

Bugg'ritt. Millennium hand AND shrimp!

[@Sagaris380]

I'm not trying to insult you in any way. I suspect the noise you heard on cold start was the exhaust system. When remove the cats and resonator it sounds raspy on a cold start. I own a 2013 C63.

[@Dotherightthing24]

You’re surprised that some gym muscle head has spilled his water bottle and traded his car to copart Great win with this car happy for you little work and your a bigger winner

[@James.O]

I would give it another compression check now you've given it a run and see if you've recovered anything on the low cylinder.

[@geocoupe8144]

Was just going to say the same, might be worth another look with the borescope at the same time?

[@0161pumaste]

perhaps it was just slightly submerged in water and it didnt affect the engine? the carpets willhave dried out by now...and maybe the battery was just flat, so they decided not to jump it? but anyway, looks like you got a bargain, sounds ace!!

[@davidroberts3914]

Looks like you got a get out of jail free card on this one Dean, i'm delighted for you though, you were due a bit of good fortune. That V8 sounds awsome mate 👌👌

[@micjvic]

Lucky git. Nice to get some luck, it floats around and landed on you for a change

[@molsky13]

Check the gear box oil for water that might be the issue hopefully not

[@paulcushnie]

That is strange no water yet flood damaged. What did it do drive through a puddle. The mould on the wheel could caused by small amount of moisture in the car but that could be anything. I would check the gearbox and diff

[@JMauto96]

The tap on first start up may of been the tensioner for the chain as I’m about 90% there oil fed tensioners may be wrong

[@iankaye9801]

The insurance company might have laid off most of this risk to a reinsurer, so they don't have to foot the entire

[@dhes2809]

Take it as a win mate! If you do change the wheels please don’t go for black. They do nothing for the look of the car.

[@timfenton5153]

Looking forward to the next one, excellent thanks

[@jackmillin]

Happy days, your due a bit of good luck Dean. You could still do some good content doing servicing and and the small body repairs on it. Maybe stick it on a Dyno and still if it's making the power it was on the previous owners KZbin/tiktok videos.

[@johnwelburn9966]

Why don't you give MSL Performance a call they tuned it in December I bet they can throw some light on why it ended up at Copart

[@redriver15262]

maybe it slid into a ditch or shallow creek which would explain the damage at the bottom of the bumper and undercarriage. These Benzes can REALLY take a beating and abuse, specially when compared to BMW's and Audi's of the same era 😅 CONGRATS! you got LUCKY!!

[@whollymindless]

Get some fresh fluids and put some heat cycles through it. Lot rot is real. You did a lot of checking for anything wrong so... Get it together and keep an eye out for issues. Enjoy.

[@MrSausageT]

Do you think it went through a ford and saturated the electrics but didn’t suck any into the engine. An now it’s dried out it’s all good. 👊

[@jasonhussey4496]

Try and contact the old owner and fine out what’s going on with it .?.

[@tristanpage6805]

Great video. Enjoying the journey. Fingers crossed for the gearbox

[@deniscudahy4549]

Sounds fine to me , good service and a run should be fine 👍

[@keithg145]

I will be absolutely delighted for you if there's absolutely nothing wrong with the car!! Buzzing for the next vid already

[@garethedwards2883]

Wouldn't it have sounded a bit metallic on first start up due to the oil change?

[@haithemanton4213]

that noise at the start are the vvt pulleys, they are a common problem of these engines

[@paulroberts1863]

Waited for this video and been looking forward to it! Nice little result. Defo clear obd codes and then test drive. See if any fresh fault codes come back

[@colinfort8725]

Well hopefully you have had a wright touch and a big earner !