Saviors & Demons = Tidal Waves

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[@InternetLiJo]

You are SUCH a breath of fresh air in the MBTI “community”. Holy wow. I almost called it quits with anything related typing because though it offered some great understanding into my life, and gave me some benchmarks to keep as goals for improvements, I felt the current community at large left a lot to be anticipated. Anyway, I’m enjoying your stuff. Thanks for posting.

[@InappropriateShorts]

hi LiJo

[@brackonstudios]

I don't think the way you've been depicting/summarizing the IxxP's Demon function is as accurate as your other ones are. Personally, (after just hearing my sister play The Greatest Showman's "This is Me" song) I think IxxP's Demon comes out more as such: *"I don't fit in anywhere, but that's ok, preferable even. I don't need your validation! And to prove it I'm going to keep obnoxiously expressing myself in order to find my place in the tribe, because I have to fit in somewhere!"*

[@akaboo69]

brackonstudios I always say I feel misunderstood.

[@katherandefy]

Yeh but there is definitely a lot of naivety in there. Oh goodness me yes lol. I met an INFP physician today and it was so funny because I do the same thing. Cracked me right up.

[@Syogren]

I am so unreasonably angry that you just pinned me down flawlessly. Thank you. And also screw you.

[@thomashardison1140]

I agree, this is much more accurate for myself and IxxP friends/family. However, I think the obnoxiousness will vary quite a bit between people. I am only a little obnoxious and my father not at all. Though part of this may be finding a path with less cognitive dissonance?

[@kathleen1685]

I know that I do not fit in, so I do not bother to try. Fitting into a tribe of idiots is no great feat.

[@tarvoc746]

_"Don't you see where this is going? They're doing it to us on purpose!"_ _"Why are you trying to control me? Stop trying to control me!"_ ...isn't that kind of the same fear, just framed differently? *smirk*

[@adhistie1694]

The different frame is the key between IJ and EP

[@dew3968]

"They are dumbing us down and trapping us with sensory pleasure and don't want us to see the big picture of what is happening to the alienated masses so they can keep being in power and hiding stuff from us! They're a dangerous mysterious type that has malicious and oppressive hidden intentions and everything they say is a lie to keep the system functioning as they wanted it to from the very beginning! Nothing is what it seems! Don't trust anybody! All your truths are inside yourself and you'll see them as long as you elevate your consciousness and focus on the big underlying picture that is placed behind the masks of what we can objectively see in front of our noses" "That (specific) institution is f*cking *over* controling me, brah! I wanna do whatever the heck I feel like with MY life, if I wanted to think about tomorrow I would just go sit quietly in that dark corner and cry with them over my wasted life overthinking, I'm not doing that, cuz ya know, I don't even know if I'll be alive tomorrow, so why care?! hahaha In the end they just want me to do stuff for them, and guess what babe? I already foresaw their intentions, I'm not dumb!! I'll make their lives a living hell, I'll agree to do everything they want, but do it poorly, and then we'll see if they will try to control me ever again!! Do you wanna bet who will control them in the end? Heheh" And that's the difference...

[@lalalanding234]

@@dew3968 ooh the second description sent chills

[@Lady.Luck.]

Everybody's nuts..lmao...spot on

[@HSharpknifeedge]

DiS iZ de BesT part of Dis Vi-DeO, plUS de AntI-KrisT tInG

[@someoneonyoutube8622]

*everybodeez Hah! gottem’

[@someoneonyoutube8622]

*Everybodeez

[@dalkri5546]

Si/Fi ISTJ here. It's nice having a system that accepts atypical function preferences.

[@miriamava9512]

i agree, it makes more sense :3

[@astolat2262]

Ni/Fi INTJ here, and same

[@teensytinyninja]

Eh, I spent years of my life wondering what the hell was wrong with me, why I didn't understand how to act around other people. Then I found mbti and studied like crazy, that was all I did for 3 weeks. I went from thinking there's something horribly wrong with me to thinking I have very immature Fe and Si. It just explained all the things I had been thinking about, really, it matched up perfectly. I did question my type and go through the process of that but nothing else makes sense. -INTP

[@aniokay]

You think studied for 3 weeks is a long time? Try serveral years....

[@hedialaya3230]

I knew you were an INTP reading the first sentence

[@timo4258]

Oof, I feel that. Actually I also felt horribly similarly at the time I started learning MBTI and then functions.

[@pamelam4]

The EXXP one is so freaking accurate. My ENTP boyfriend hates authority and really hates cops lol.

[@bananaboy4147]

Play a joke on him one time. When he arrives next time, say hey guy, the cops were just here looking for you and asking a bunch of questions about your habits. Let us know what he says or does lawl

[@pcphantom1978]

@@bananaboy4147 I'm pretty sure the immediate response would be somewhere along the lines of asking more questions then she could possibly answer while projecting his panic at a level that would be scary and make her panic...

[@cecidoo4003]

My ENTP self does too. I've gotten in trouble my whole life for challenging authority lol just starting to chill (slightly) so I can play the system quietly instead of openly displaying my hatred.

[@Missfitts23]

Don't put your Si/Fe on me Haha!

[@elaf94]

Lol so true

[@bananaboy4147]

Don't put your Se/Te on me, GAH

[@AustinOllar]

Great points Dave. It's almost like this is a meta-strategy to help people self-reflect but through collective conscious means. Like another degree of separation from self, to see the objective lightness/darkness that lies within one's own subjective self. Once these ego-energies match (cognitive functions), all that's left is pure awareness.

[@bananaboy4147]

Huh

[@AustinOllar]

What I mean is often people get tormented by the things they are unconscious about. When they become conscious as to the reason why they feel or act the way they do, they then have a greater control. Because they can objectively detach from the situation, and just be awareness or consciousness rather than being "stuck" or in the midst of the energies they are drowning in.

[@bananaboy4147]

How do people get tormented by things outside of their awareness? I mean, what would that look like? A mysterious feeling washing over you of simply being tormented and not knowing why? How does a person behave when they are drowning in these "energies?" Lashing out and stuff-?

[@AustinOllar]

Yeah exactly. People resort to deterministic behavior and playing the victim card in order to justify what is happening to them. It's a sort of short cut to understanding which doesn't work, as these patterns, when not understood or nullified, tend to repeat themselves over and over.

[@Rin-red]

"when you're sitting at the coffee shop and you're eavesdropping as you always do. you're listening to the people behind you..." lmao never been called out badly it feels like a personal attack 😂 pls don't blame us, blame our functions 😂🤣

[@andreajoywenburg7707]

This “saviors and demons” insight is illuminating for me. ENFJ here - constantly solving problems in the tribe but also constantly wondering where my solutions fit. I’m looking forward to digging into this further. 🙏🏼

[@rickandrygel913]

I appreciate that you could admit I typed myself correctly. I know that couldn't have been easy, it took humility. I'm proud of you.

[@Arlyon9999]

Chaos is the absolute worst... ugh.

[@AeroPR]

Chaos is a Ladder! Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the love, or gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is. But they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late...

[@xynx1211]

Chaos is fun. I can't imagine how miserably boring things would be without it. Sometimes I feel like i subconsciously intentionally plant chaos in my life just to make it more interesting.

[@xynx1211]

@Tommy Hass Lol, I'm cringing at that comment i wrote right now. I'm seriously annoyed by J's sometimes though, always obsessing over avoiding possible future chaos. It's like, sure, that hypothetical inconvenience could happen, but chances are it won't, and if it does, we'll just deal with it then.

[@xynx1211]

@Tommy Hass No I'm not female, I'm just bored. I can't stand females by the way, i have no problem identifying as a sexist misogynist. Why tf do they almost all have to have shit-tier mbti types? Why can't there be smart intp females, on my wavelength? Then again, if they existed, we might be too shy to ever talk to each other, lol. 😖

[@flyingspacebrainedidiot]

Don't put your Si/Fe on me! 😡

[@yourmom-pr8ht]

Loving the new series, really helps me with my type confusion. I finally know I'm an INFP thanks

[@thegeneralist6373]

You did three compilations of struggles deciders and observers go through and two or of those three times you left out IXXPs can you talk more about IxxP struggles so I may work on them?

[@themjohnsons]

Holy jeez! This is good stuff!

[@Wingedmagician]

I would love to see more of this, so amazing.

[@sonscreative9927]

Your font choice is spot on.

[@fishraposo7192]

"Everybody is fucking nuts" Yep, that sums it up. Also, the ENTJ call out was ON POINT. But my GF cares about me, she's the only person i'm sure does lol

[@hedgeearthridge6807]

"So, everybody's fuckin' nuts!" So true XD

[@avu_metalsmith]

Wow the being was a great fun entertaining hook and the end just hits ya with some real deep truths that just leaves you with a lot to think about...

[@the0other]

oh my gosh, I'm so glad I found this!!! This research is amazingly interesting =w=

[@DonnaChamberson]

I just don't understand. It seems like you have this complex system that you're following but don't ever reveal. You always exude some of it in your videos and expect other's to follow suit as if it's a universal standard that's already been accepted by society?

[@furiousape7717]

You and me are in the same boat man

[@zinasantana]

"because they've exhausted all their social bullshit and now they're getting to the good stuff" X'D As an INFJ you have no idea how much I make this a goal in my everyday interactions!

[@hursyed3130]

ENTP here 👋🏼 Let’s find each other to dive deep into our functions!

[@adhistie1694]

To grow, you need to quit being entp for a while and develop your ni, then you'll see all the chaos going on and actually can prevent more from coming. I know because i'm also entp

[@slicphone]

what does it mean if I wish I could go to the doctor and run my own tests

[@aristophanesgox1855]

Why don't you guys have more followers? This is amazing

[@wangshiyao]

4:52 If your mind doesn't show you what's coming next, why would you be anxious? If you can't visualize the future, why would you be afraid of it? It makes sense for the more imaginative (the savior Ns rather than the Demon Ns) to experience anxiety because they can see what's coming and they don't like it. In a previous vid, Dave mentioned how sports champs are always saying "we're the best" because they're 'lead SE' and constantly comparing themselves to others superficially. Given that they would then have a demon Ni, is it true that they're the same group of people who have a higher incidence of anxiety over the future as implied by this claim? I find it hard to imagine.

[@kindauncool]

They tend to be anxious when it comes to figuring out the "why" behind things. They don't really want to know that that much- they just want to experience and live in the moment. I don't really understand or agree with what I interpreted from what you said about them comparing themselves to others superficially. What makes the comparisons superficial? What are the comparisons? You didn't really say anything there, so you're leaving people to interpret whatever it is you mean by "superficial comparisons." Seems like a quick and easy cop-out to get intuitives to agree with you and if that's the case then alright, mission complete, but if you're actually trying to understand, then please be more specific.

[@RC-dp1gu]

My EJ totally martyrs himself! And i have to apologize for it just to expedite the conversation 😭 - istp

[@JesterOfDestiny]

Could you make a video about the Fe/Ti relationship. Since Fe is my "demon function" I feel I should be able to understand it more, so I can deal with my problems better. It would also be nice to see how Fe dominant people think, since I cannot even begin to comprehend what having Ti as a demon function could be like.

[@spirallove5946]

trying to understand what savior and demon functions are, am not feeling totally clear, but here is how i understand it as of now: - both savior and demon functions cause you to feel animated (create tidal waves), whereas shadow functions generally affect you less - savior functions are more associated with positively animated states, while demon functions are associated with negatively animated states. basically in both cases you care a lot about the thing, whether its in a positive or negative way so if you find yourself caring a lot about something in a positive way (something you feel very passionate about), and that it's a recurring pattern in your life, it's likely that thing has to do with your savior function? likewise, if you care about something in a negative way (something that massively irritates you), and it's a recurring pattern in your life, it's likely it's related to your demon function? is what i'm saying correct? and an example, i find myself in very energized states when talking about my personal interests, values, and feelings, and it is a recurrent pattern in my life. should this indicate that i have Fi as a savior function?

[@RandolphTheWhite1]

This is pretty brilliant. Thank you for sharing this.

[@harmoniics]

hey i'm not over controlling stuff. i'm controlling at just the right amount to combat the chaos that everybody else is creating.

[@JayLeePoe]

This is a great lead-in to the conversation for those completely unfamiliar with this kind of language or dichotomy. The triangulation comment is very poignant as well, since this is a tremendous tactic to employ in multiple arenas. Hegel's dialectic, tertiary thinking, existential disassociation, transcendental meditation, whatnot. The rule of 3s is handed down like a mandala or other potent symbol from history-- again, linking Jung's insights of the occult. I would say more think of "occult" as directly translated to spooky evil rather than "seldom learned knowledge." Arcane wisdom has a nice ring to it.

[@TheGerogero]

Going for the jugular, damn.

[@kjelloetke]

So if you consciously disrespect your demons, why is it so hard to type yourself correctly? Shouldnt you be able to recognize the patterns of your behaviour after some time of reflection?

[@infinitysconcinnity2418]

Here's a question: If IXXJs want to avoid chaos, why would EXXPs (rather than IXXJs) have the anxiety/fear related to the unknown (which would naturally bring about chaos)? I'm a bit confused about how to distinguish between these two ideas.

[@aniokay]

For me, who might be an infj, I plan because I simply cannot handle uncertainty. I need to be able to visualise what I'm going to do for the next 6 months/next year. And that takes away the anxiety. But I kind of also have to project the trajectory of the world, so I don't have to consider all the facts about it all the time. This makes me quite fatalistic about the world...

[@yellow_daffodil5689]

5.20 bottom left.... select a key and discover your true personality.... Great! Let's do it then!

[@belalnoor9686]

There is a problem, all the moms are like ESFJ. How to differ them?

[@ghozaleetachi]

belal noor maybe you r not counting my mom

[@robbished]

Clearly your mom isn’t ISTJ.

[@aashland]

My kids would never mistake me for an ESFJ. (I am INFJ. )

[@katherandefy]

Except my mom is an ISTJ. It's a real trip. Especially since I'm an INFP and dad is ENTJ. lol

[@forgetfulstranger]

Dude that's a gross generalization

[@sunnieA]

yep I agree 100% with this vid, I usually maths things out when there's blindspots and also I believe in the collective unconscious through observations and stuff, so even though I'm an Ej, I've grown self aware enough to see the impact of me as a ripple in my life however much short term pain it would produce

[@Lastrevio]

"everybody's fucking nuts"

[@randomactivitiesco.5848]

Funny thing, I actually did go to my doctor the other week and say, "I want A, B, and C. Do whatever you need to do to justify feeling good about signing off, but these are my concerns about my health." She laughed and said, "Okay." I love a doctor that can work outside of the script! Ti first, Ne second for sure. She thought of me as a cool new info/idea. I'm fine with that.

[@BimmerWon]

My voice is completely monotone so this doesn’t help me at all.

[@Acceptablehandleaheada2.-_]

Here's the thing, though, people's perspectives on us are things we can't count on to be valid as all they see is us is what we allow them to.

[@Oilofmercy]

Everyone's nuts! lets just have a party! :)

[@lalalanding234]

EJs description... Hit me in the chest

[@SpaceyNYC]

I watched this video and was struck with a conspiracy idea that this is a covert advertisement for his paid typing service.. am I an IxxJ?

[@SpaceyNYC]

Also I mean no offense by this lol. That is really what came to mind though

[@brackonstudios]

+SpaceyNYC Depends I guess, do you: Feel that it's genius for possibly being that? (Meaning you loved making the connection.) Or do you feel insulted/threatened for such an stealthy 'attack'? That's a bit hyperbolic, but the first might make you Ne-Si for picking out the connection (could be your middle functions), while the second might make you more IxxJ, for it'd mean you're getting a hunch you don't like the implications to.

[@SpaceyNYC]

hmm.. I don't think it's genius, I think it's somewhat obvious and i'm not the only one who could see that... But I don't feel threatened by it, it's more like I'm glad I noticed this so I can see what's really going on here. I tend to do this all the time -- whenever I see something, my mind immediately tries to figure out a motive or what's not being said/what's REALLY going on here.

[@brackonstudios]

+SpaceyNYC In that case, for the last part of your comment, that probably relates more to the judging/tribe-self functions. Since you're 'concerned' about 'motive'. Meaning, you're using (whatever organization function) to figure out what another is doing. But it also means you could be in with the ExxPs, since you might be sensing someone is trying to manipulate you into doing something. Hence his: "You can't control me! I do what I want!" analogy. Maybe see if you relate with the ExxPs (mainly ENFPs or ENTPs), since they aren't worried about their place in the tribe, but can become concerned about environmental control from their free-spirited/pattern-seeking minds. Again, it's hyperbolic, but the psychological aspect is similar.

[@SpaceyNYC]

hmm. I was never really the rebellious type.. i'm more of the do as your told type unless what i'm being told is counter-productive.. I extremely concerned about motive, but not on a world-social level -- more so with the people who are really close to me that I care about. I always want to make sure the people I care about aren't being tricked or duped or heading down the wrong path.. and if I see them being blind to implications or consequences I readily point that out to them without a second thought. I also look for motives to make sure me personally am not being tricked or misled so I can avoid a potentially negative experience.

[@ghozaleetachi]

Since your video is so great.. i gladly say thank you to you..

[@ericstankylekenny]

My motto: Everybody is nuts.

[@louiselarc9180]

I am an asshole but I never denied it. I got INTP/ENTP on tests and after looking at functions and research I concluded myself as ENTP. I hate people who try to avoid having to reflect on themselves but I would say it’s easy for me because I accept my flaws.

[@samdemn]

Just love you, how honest

[@adielwilson8749]

The IP one was so bad I've literally said that to people before I'm dead

[@ihsankamil6279]

ENTP VISIONARY REPRESENT

[@introvertedintuitive393]

🟥🟥🟥🟨🟨🟨🟨🟨🟦🟦🟦🟩🟩 🟥🟥🟥🟥🟥🟥🟨🟨🟨🟨🟦🟦🟩 🟥🟥🟥🟥🟥🟥🟥🟥🟥🟥🟨🟨🟦 -INFP

[@LauraLouLou]

This is causing me to have a panic attack!

[@Elimbi1]

Enfp here! Si/Te: Put some respeck on my name cuz!

[@entropy8634]

"You can't just type yourself" HEh watch me

[@timo4258]

Tbh I would be very surprised if I mistyped myself. Everything just clicks.

[@VisibleMRJ]

I'm an intj an I guess now that I know its my demon function going crazy, I no longer have to worry about the US dollars and the economy collapsing right? everything is fine, its just me fearing the chaos.

[@aniokay]

I still think the world is going under (climate change) -INFJ

[@whoismysterionguy]

​@@aniokay You wisely sense the truth of the physical world of ours. Everything is changing. Movement is time. Time is the frame. Being aware is unchangeable.... In other words, try to love the thoughts you feel most worried about, they are not outside threats, they are your self, craving for your love. - random INFJ junkie

[@IsaaczGrajeda]

Love your content! ❤

[@AnApple-xg8lm]

When did I become an extrovert?

[@lilacsoul4736]

If personally attacked was a video 😭😭😭

[@lalalanding234]

What if we can say "You are your own blind spot"

[@neferkroll]

you speak so fast omg jesuss i forget to breath but the content is great hhehe thanks!

[@aniokay]

Is the savior function always the first function?

[@whowillyoucallonthen4292]

@DaveSuperPowers +DaveSuperPowers Hm. Now you've got me pondering. So, you say (in the beginning of this vid) that when we see someone at their "best," that's their strongest/top/savior function... And, vice versa (on the whole "demon" bit.. Which, I do find somewhat practically fascinating). In your opinion (& in general), what effects do drugs have on this whole thing? In specific, what function are we seeing when someone (usually muted, appearing to be at least somewhat "introverted..." or not..) is already in a good mood, consumes caffeine, then gets super excited & "go team! Connect the dots! Forward, MARCH!" chatty (or someone who's "extroverted" gets all quiet, observant, & strategic/creepy lol)?Would that be more of the same? Or, milking/getting high on the inferior/demon/ego? For me, this is a huge & pivotal question for MBTI/typing. Which, will help fill in a major gap & take advantage of an opportunity to more accurately type people (aka myself haha). Also... Why are there no: "Depends." "I don't know/DGAF." "Both." "Neither." And/or "N/A" options on tests? We *know* those people exist.. Right? Oh, &, your data approach is looking more & more legit & all... So, like, can you please make a "um, the reason why I'm into this is because I don't know what my practical contribution to society is and therefore I'm *broke* & trying to change that by figuring out who I am & where I'm f@$%'g up but can't afford a friggin $99.oo sort of beta phase-but *may* be super legit-mbti test ... We'll see..." version of your test? I mean... Come on Bro... Dr. JBP & his peeps charge $10 for their Big5... Surely you can compete... Yeah? ✌😎

[@whowillyoucallonthen4292]

PS... Yes. I understand Dr. JBP is "Big Stage" big & can afford to offer a test at that price. I also understand that my request could be perceived as from the plecostomus variety... I'm not saying $5.. Or, whatever... I'm just saying.. $99 & $399 are a LOT of $$$ to help a researcher we really know little about (thanks..or no thanks to the inferior Se website...orrr...?)... Ya know?

[@CirrowProductions]

Can somebody expand on what the ENFP demon is supposed to be?

[@pjackson7395]

Consider me confused as shit. I’ve been ‘professionally’ typed as both INFJ and INTJ (long story) but I identify more with the ENJ description of (paraphrasing) ‘I don’t know who I am what the actual fuck?’ ... but there’s no way I’m a bloody extrovert. Thanks, Dave. >_>

[@kennithbob]

Did you ever figure it out? I'm fairly sure I'm the FJ and my mom is the TJ. We get along really well. I subconsciously like to control situations because I don't want to be surprised or for people to leave me. My mom likes to avoid things because she doesn't like confrontation and she fears that she might get taken advantage of because she's not great at sticking up for herself. I don't know if that helps, four years later...

[@zainhummamy4272]

Your saying that it's almost impossible to type oneself, then there is practically no point in watching any of your videos, unless our purpose is to just type others

[@Shadow77999]

Why doesnt he make any videos about INTPs..

[@desiliatj1499]

Because you can simply find it on google, there are thousand about them and its boring. - Intp, 2019

[@xero6396]

Because he doesn't understand us. It's blatantly obvious.

[@jovian304]

He is really really jealous of INTPs.

[@studmalexy]

I'm ugly...how do I solve that?

[@hoshi411]

Dave said EXXP have anxiety about the future "deamon Ni". But, not true about EXXP who are savior Ne, right?

[@anyone359]

Ne is possibilities, emerging patterns, everything that "could be". Ne makes you see everything that could happen but you still don't know what *will* happen. I think Ne is a lot of confusion.

[@AbuSaud.Christos]

The shadow Of an ENTP is an INTJ , not His Fe/Si .. at least that's what they say that carl jung was talking about.

[@HermeticallyHermeticThricGreat]

I am strictly objective. Don't believe me then you can pick me apart

[@michaelatorn8380]

How can i be IxxJ, ExxP, ExxJ and IxxP all at once?

[@relentless_animal4127]

IP was spot on for me lol 😂

[@CaveyMoth]

2:36 Are you calling me an Se savior type?

[@faytwind3913]

“Savor and demon” fuction? Just call them the dominant and inferior fuctions. Derp

[@bananaboy4147]

Someone doesn't have an imagination derp

[@user-kd2ez2mb3c]

Someone is a lead Si ahem ahem textbook OCD

[@faytwind3913]

I didn't know you can type based on one sentence. You should make typing videos. -_-

[@madmanga64]

Why don’t your videos have 5 million views?? lol

[@timo4258]

Sure I could do that but... I have no friends.

[@someonerandom713]

I love this

[@oscarl.3563]

That was interesting. People suck, uhm! IXXP. Still, we are what we are, there is value in allowing ourselves to function naturally. We should probably remain hermits or chaos controllers or whatever as long as we drop the stories and work out the issues that are real issues to us. I may care what some people think but not everyone, it is good enough that we're able to fix what we must but not everything. All four demonic attitudes mentioned are about _people_ and people surely cause us problems. If you live in rural areas you'll have less people-problems. It's not just an attitude-thing to be changed, it's also a people-thing.

[@mariejosefinacastillo9385]

my mom and my best friend thinks im of the ExxPs

[@kurichanmichele584]

Should we choose a career based on saviors then?

[@FlabbyPigLegs]

kurichanmichele584 good luck actually being aware of them. Apparently we are aware of 2 and 3 function and not our number 1 and 4

[@LolSnimci]

Does the law of attraction makes you hug your demons?

[@nourelhouda5251]

Wait ! So i can't really type my self ? How will i know if im an ixxp or ixxj ?

[@boylnore8036]

How do you obtain some much accurate information? About this personality stuff

[@cornyBandit]

Good video

[@ourochroma]

So MBTI Fear Theory

[@jo1italianstyle]

Are the functions not rapresented by a type all demons?

[@studmalexy]

But conspiracies do exist

[@akaboo69]

I always say I feel misunderstood

[@bananaboy4147]

infp bro?

[@akaboo69]

Banana boy yup

[@TAEHSAEN]

Why *Jordan Peterson and DaveSuperpowers are both INTJ:* Dave is most likely an INTJ based on his similar style to Dr. Jordan Peterson (in terms of his organization and emotional assertiveness). Moreover, many people mentioned that Dave admitted in earlier videos that he is INTJ. My strong conclusion is that Jordan Peterson is INTJ as well. He is all about organization of his concepts (Ni) and he's concerned about the way the group (the political world in this case) thinks and acts (Te). Jordan Peterson is definitely both a thinker a doer and his theories and work ethic goes hand in hand to show that. Peterson is firstly concerned about organization of the rational and secondly reasons of the tribe. What gives away the fact that he's INTJ is that he uses his Fi a lot to defend and argue for the things he believes in. He brings in a LOT of emotional assertiveness to his opinions (just like Dave does regarding MBTI being taught wrong, Ni users are not special, etc.) and they don't mind ruffling a few feathers if it means that they can tell the truth. They are both INTJ it shows very clearly.

[@brackonstudios]

+TAEHSAEN You seem pretty sure about this INTJ perspective, making this it's own miniature essay? Header and all? Ok, I'll try to give a response/critique of this: Where are you getting 'emotional assertiveness' from? That could very well be calculated efforts (Ti) to communicate making people feel a certain way (Fe). Also, they don't bring their personal selves into their discussions, why do you think Dave hasn't 'come out' and told us his personality? ("earlier videos", he's made fun of his earlier videos!) He's bound to know his type from his friend's objective typing method, so why hasn't he shown us yet? Or talked about himself? This is where I bring some things from my previous comment to you (cause I don't want to loose it or you miss it): If he were concerned about organizing, he'd be like a monk pining away at developing a philosophy to live by (hence Organizing). (I know he's written books) but more often than not, Peterson's front and center before people telling them: "This is the biggest thing!" And then the next day he's saying "No, this is the biggest thing to live by!" Some of the judgement part relates pretty well I guess, but he also talks about how people (the tribe) should be to each other and to themselves, relating them to almost archetypical models (a very Fe-Ti concept). In short, I really don't think Peterson is 'firstly concerned' about organization, for reasons I've stated above. And I really don't see any clear 'emotional assertiveness'. Both Te and Fe types (or regardless of Fi or Ti) can be passionate about things without bringing in personal biases. Their sureness could be based on 'I've studied this for a long time, and think this objectively true, and because I like it, I'm going to be enthusiastic about it.' There's nothing emotional about that kind of assertiveness, it's just enthusiasm. I'm not trying to crush you typing because I don't like INTJs or your insights, I'm just trying to keep you from being a Snap-Decision Johnny like Dave warned against.

[@whowillyoucallonthen4292]

Hm. Nice. I agree w/you on DSP. However, I believe that what you are seeing as Dr. JBP's Fi, may more probably be Si (Tradition). Though, I'm definitely not a 100% sure as to whether it would be tertiary or inferior... As, I'm no "pro." He definitely fits the "Frankenstein" description @MichaelPierce uses as an analogy in his INTP vid (if you either observe or ask me... Of course you've done the former). And, he definitely seems to use Ne & Ti. Dr. AJ Drenth believes he's an ENTP (medium.com/@ajdrenth/jordan-peterson-champion-of-meaning-in-a-scientific-age-6c303f90ae7d). And, well, he has "creds." Thanks for sharing your ideas. ✌😎

[@AustinOllar]

I originally thought Dave was an ENTP, but I talked with him and reaffirmed he's an INTJ. I'm 99% sure Jordan Peterson is an INTJ as well

[@whowillyoucallonthen4292]

Austin Ollar "Reaffirmed?" Please elucidate. *You personally/inside your own head? Or, *he told you? Because, I thought the same thing too... But then this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zn6op6xri66ZZpY (Emphasis on the last statement.. In relation to the video content).

[@AustinOllar]

I talked with him over the phone. He's an INTJ

[@Shadowmaxim]

Tell me if this sounds like INFP or I am a mistype. Daily, I am in a loop thinking about conversation topics to talk to my friends about. These dont last long, and quickly change topic, person, or mood alltogether. All in my head, I go from Person X hates me, no, person X likes me, no person X is indifferent, Then, I start to feel that i dont convey enough information about myself, for them to even care that much about me, and I start to feel that I lack the mental equipment to strengthen the harmony. Maybe I dont know enough about myself, rather, but I get upset about being perceived wrong and missing an opportunity to connect. Then I get anxiety that I didnt talk to that person, didnt make plans (inferior Te?) And soon, this time space becomes greater and I get even more distant with them. I wait, wanting for them to take care of the connections (lack of Fe? Te?) So i can better mirror them and take on a purpose (Se wanting to be like them). Its as if I want the other person to give meaning to me, and my sense of self is often influenced by how the other person perceives me. So I want to change myself to better bond with any person.

[@alisonfisher1877]

Shadowmaxim I’m thinking MBTI probably isn’t going to deliver the solutions or satisfaction your desiring here. The enneagram can be helpful in learning and understanding fear-based motivations and patterns, but not for finding a magic formula that makes you malleable enough to be lovable for any/every random person. Maybe I’m misinterpreting what you’re looking for, but personally I’m convinced others will only have the capacity to hold you in as high a regard as you do yourself and self-improvement only for acceptance from someone else is a great disservice to yourself.

[@senecaaurel8050]

why should one also use complicated technical words which are to be regarded neutrally and not to be evaluated in order to describe a complex human being. you rather make a black and white mentality in order to explain what is right and what is wrong. what as we all know of course a single person can and must decide generally for all people. if my sarcasm still doesn't light up like a fire engine light aka RKL rotating beacon / rotating light should go offline and get some sleep. this comment i started writing after 42 seconds into your video but from now on i'll keep listening in and try your video to finish it. okay i seriously didn't make it to the end because too much doesn't make sense or is vastly undercomplex. i got to 7:01. it's so obvious that if you take 100 or even 10.000 people from the same city or country, most of them have the same problems. they have a lot in common like: they are all human beings, let's say about 50% are women and 50% are men, they come from the same city, have the same culture, speak the same language, have seen the same commercials, have the same dreams and desires, which softdringks they know and like, which kind of ice cream they loved as a child and and and... i could go on like this all day. I myself am a total individualist and yet I know that if you take two people and one is rich and one is poor they seem very different but yet they have more things in common than they even think about and these are the small things that hardly anyone thinks about because most people focus on the differences. i saw the thumbnail and at first thought it was music and looked at it but then was massively disappointed by these claims that are so undercomplex and black and white that i feel compelled to comment on a 5 year old video. I only learned about the MBTI a year ago and I'm no expert on it but your retoric and logic tell me your statements are not to be trusted. Forgive me if this sounds rude, I'm trying to be as factual as possible in describing what bothers me.

[@kathleen1685]

Listening to other's convo is a bit creepy.

[@bananaboy4147]

Guess my type

[@user-kd2ez2mb3c]

Banana boy you’re a banana that’s what you are

[@elonmust8859]

Hi my name is Joe Bloggs and if you give me 50 quid i can tell you who you are lol. Sorry ain't gonna happen here, Drs can be wrong you know and Professionals are not allways professional.

[@greynperiwinkle4753]

Speaking about noticing patterns, it gets so goddamn old and annoying in every video to see this consistent and overt hatred and despise towards IxxP types.. For alleged "objective personality" it's biased AF. Who was that IxxP? Who hurt you?

[@TAEHSAEN]

Wow I realized you talk in a somewhat similar style to Dr. Jordan Peterson (in terms of your organization and assertiveness). I'm guessing both of you are INTJ? :)

[@ghozaleetachi]

TAEHSAEN waw such a fast conclusion..

[@ghozaleetachi]

Eunhye jbp is jordan peterson? I thought he is intp.. but this dave i am not sure hahaha

[@ghozaleetachi]

Eunhye woaa you know about socionicss ❤.. yeaa thats theory said like enfp=enfj hahaha infp=infj in power but different in prefering.. Thats why i found dave's theory can explain something.. Talk again about jordan, yeaa his ne is so going anywhere when he talk about something.. wkwkwk I have some ni friend.. they are so focus in what they say not like ne.. and the other clue is like dave's said, ij's are so control (freak) wkwkwk i dont see it in jordan's way of talk up until now.. his talk is enlightening and informing.. not forcing like ij.. haha i thought so..

[@ghozaleetachi]

Eunhye why just introvert? If we look the function introvert order is just same like extrovert.. like enfp and enfj get strongest function in both fe and ne?

[@TAEHSAEN]

Dave is an INTJ based on what some people are saying that he admitted that in earlier videos. My strong conclusion is that Jordan Peterson is INTJ. He's all about organization of thoughts (Ni) and he's concerned about the way the group (the political world in this case) thinks and acts (Te). He's definitely concerned about organization of the rational and secondly reasons of the tribe. What gives away the fact that he's INTJ is that he uses his Fi a lot to defend and argue for the things he believes in. He brings in a LOT of emotional assertiveness to his opinions (just like Dave does regarding MBTI being taught wrong, Ni users are not special, etc.) and they don't mind ruffling other people's feathers if it means that they can tell the truth. They are both INTJ it shows very clearly.