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The Rebellion was made up of every manner of freedom fighter, including those willing to break the rules of war. Saw Gerrera's Partisans were one such group, feared and hated by both sides for their infamous conduct and use of terror tactics.
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@TemplinInstitute
@TemplinInstitute 3 жыл бұрын
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@jumpstrart7
@jumpstrart7 3 жыл бұрын
Aside from the Empire and Republic, their were other "nations" in the Star Wars like the Hapes Consortium, Chiss Acendency, and a few others. Is their enough info on them to make videos or do you think what's available is a little too on the vague side?
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 3 жыл бұрын
For the rebellion!
@TheHawkeye0725
@TheHawkeye0725 3 жыл бұрын
You guys forgot about Benthic’s partisans. He was Saw’s second and continued to lead them after his death.
@loganwhitney8471
@loganwhitney8471 3 жыл бұрын
@@jumpstrart7 Yeah I'm wondering about those nations as well, I'm more curious (sorry spelling wasn't my strong suit) about the Chiss Acendency along with the Empire of the Hand and Grand Admiral Thrawn himself
@morcbus123
@morcbus123 3 жыл бұрын
No mention of the Partisan remnant’s role in taking down the threat of Shu-Torun through capture of the Spike? And how they wanted to blow the planet up?
@jacknathe8135
@jacknathe8135 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best Saw quotes: "I hope, Senator, after you've lost, and the Empire reigns over the galaxy unopposed, you will find some comfort in the knowledge that you fought according to the rules."
@andrewgilbertson5672
@andrewgilbertson5672 3 жыл бұрын
...Made less good by the fact that he was wrong and she won by fighting within those rules. :-)
@jacknathe8135
@jacknathe8135 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewgilbertson5672 then the new republic was swept away by the first order, with the more "militant" members left to fight it
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacknathe8135 And the First Order fell apart like a stack of bricks.
@jacknathe8135
@jacknathe8135 3 жыл бұрын
@@HolyknightVader999 because people actually fought back, unlike the new republic which practically folded. Mon montha was too idealistic and didn't go far enough to full Deimperialization of the galaxy. At least saw recognized that you can't just go around talking about peace, love and democracy without having to throw a few punches to get it
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacknathe8135 And Saw's strategies would actually DRIVE people to join the Empire. What do you think will happen when civilians get killed by his crazy attacks? That they would just accept his cause was just? No. They'll become Stormtroopers next morning, and they'll buy all the anti-rebel propaganda the Imperials spew because guess what, they are right in that Saw is a threat. Besides, Steela was always the better leader when compared to Saw. That's why both the Partisans AND the King of Onderon chose her over him.
@Jayjay-qe6um
@Jayjay-qe6um 3 жыл бұрын
"We are not insurgents. We are partisans. We are a rebellion. I bring battle-hardened fighters. I bring experienced tacticians. I bring pilots, a squadron of them. I bring the means with which to fight back. I am inviting you, both of you, to join me in this." -- SAW GERRERA TO BAZE MALBUS AND CHIRRUT IMWE
@thacc8216
@thacc8216 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I liked about rogue one. It made the galactic civil war feel like an actual war.
@GAndreC
@GAndreC 3 жыл бұрын
The only salvageable movie out of the last batch of them
@Lord_Foxy13
@Lord_Foxy13 3 жыл бұрын
Oh definitely it literally goes: Rogue one, Solo, *A gap* EP.7 *A huge gap* EP.9 *An grand canyon sized gap* EP.8
@omarbaba9892
@omarbaba9892 Жыл бұрын
@@Lord_Foxy13 I’m sorry but episode 9 is leagues worse then 8
@rc59191
@rc59191 3 жыл бұрын
Every rebellion needs someone like Saw. Rebellions can't be won on hope and justice alone.
@darkbrightnorth
@darkbrightnorth 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, you need success to inspire hope, even if it success that will need to be swept under the rug later for political reason
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 3 жыл бұрын
Ones needs dirty hands so others can keep clean.
@seand.g423
@seand.g423 3 жыл бұрын
Or """civility"" über alles" bullshit...
@MrRrusiii
@MrRrusiii 3 жыл бұрын
IMPS AINT GOT NO HUMANITY
@jessmith7324
@jessmith7324 3 жыл бұрын
Saw was always an extreme and violent person even before his sister's death. On the surface ppl attribute this to ego and so dismissed it. It was just that her optimism and relationship kept that in check. When she died not only was that check gone, but saw blamed himself. And then the Republic became the empire: a more violent and extreme empire. And this just gave his violent tendencies to come to the surface. he was a true warrior and I dont know what he would actually do in peace time
@giaxo1739
@giaxo1739 3 жыл бұрын
Now I want an alt-history where the Partisans' tactics were adopted by the whole rebellion and we saw a galaxy of carnage.
@fulcrum6760
@fulcrum6760 2 жыл бұрын
Luke wouldn’t dare join the Rebellion neither will Han or Leia then.
@giaxo1739
@giaxo1739 2 жыл бұрын
@@fulcrum6760 I could see Leia joining, but not Han or Luke.
@fulcrum6760
@fulcrum6760 2 жыл бұрын
@@giaxo1739 Leia would never. She’s seen innocent people get hurt by the Empire.
@giaxo1739
@giaxo1739 2 жыл бұрын
@@fulcrum6760 Leia also sacrificed Alderaan for the rebellion, keep in mind. She's very much a "greater good" kind of person.
@a.morphous66
@a.morphous66 Жыл бұрын
@@giaxo1739 Leia didn’t sacrifice Alderaan in the least. She gave up the old base on Dantooine, hoping that would save her home, but Tarkin ordered it destroyed anyway. She very clearly did not intend on Alderaan’s destruction.
@mkosmala1309
@mkosmala1309 3 жыл бұрын
Just because the enemy is the bad guys doesn't make you the good guys. In hunting monsters, one must take care not to become monsters. Saw and his Partisans are interesting because they show that not all people opposing the Empire are good. I'd also like to see some sympathetic Imperial officers who serve the Empire with good intentions, not fully processing they are propping up a tyrannical regime, or perhaps naively believing they can fix it from the inside.
@KillerOrca
@KillerOrca 3 жыл бұрын
Legends has a couple of those. Lot of them ended up defecting. Thrawn probably counts too
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 3 жыл бұрын
Well if you play squadrons, Varko is a good example. He knows the empire is evil but he’s convinced they’re the only ones capable of bringing stability.
@shadewolf0075
@shadewolf0075 3 жыл бұрын
@@neofulcrum5013 empire: *proceeds to devastate loyal worlds throwing vast amounts of territory in chaos because palpatine is a sore loser*
@MrRrusiii
@MrRrusiii 3 жыл бұрын
Horror, ... and mortal terror... are your friends. If they are not, then... they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies.
@GAndreC
@GAndreC 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not so much tyranical nonsense but they had lived in places that shaped their view into there’s order and progress or instability and violence. And they are aware that the neutered version of authority brings no order in places were violence was the norm.
@Soundwave3591
@Soundwave3591 3 жыл бұрын
"you've built an army of psychopaths and murderers. What will you do when there's no one left for them to murder?"
@RukhWhitefang
@RukhWhitefang 3 жыл бұрын
Garm Bel Ibis would be a fun video for more groups that were not part of the rebellion but attacked the Empire.
@GAndreC
@GAndreC 3 жыл бұрын
Who?
@ghostievee8134
@ghostievee8134 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Imperial! You won a new speeder!
@jeremy1860
@jeremy1860 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many people, after the fall of the Empire, actually looked back fondly on Saw and his fight? 🤔
@MrAsaqe
@MrAsaqe 3 жыл бұрын
Not many, the Dreamers were even worse about this
@AmericanArchon
@AmericanArchon 3 жыл бұрын
"Saw Gerrera's body lies a-mouldering in the grave Saw Gerrera's body lies a-mouldering in the grave Saw Gerrera's body lies a-mouldering in the grave But his soul goes marching on!"
@spookyghostwriter3110
@spookyghostwriter3110 3 жыл бұрын
No mention of Shu-Torun? You know, when the Partisans came one Princess Leia speech from blowing up an entire planet?
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they forgot there’s still a faction of partisans under benthic
@user-Jay178
@user-Jay178 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda feel bad for them they suffered under the empire and wanted revenge, then it collapse and got replace with a ineffective new republic and the first order rose to power and took over the galaxy
@markfergerson2145
@markfergerson2145 3 жыл бұрын
The New Republic was "effective" in achieving it's political and economical goals as far as it went. What it didn't do was remember the ol dictum "if you want peace, prepare for war".
@Demicleas
@Demicleas 3 жыл бұрын
@@markfergerson2145 it didint even finish the old war it was doomed to fail.
@KillerOrca
@KillerOrca 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, we saw FO Destoyers crashing at the end of Rise. Maybe someone resurrected the Partisan movement
@TheHawkeye0725
@TheHawkeye0725 3 жыл бұрын
They shafted the new republic so hard
@Fae-Fey
@Fae-Fey 3 жыл бұрын
As far as I concerned, The New Republic still in power, Luke is still alive and training new gen of Jedi, Snoke never existed and Palpatine stayed dead
@awesomehpt8938
@awesomehpt8938 3 жыл бұрын
Saw spends years fighting the empire. Dies because he can’t be bothered to get on a ship
@ontasbulent5709
@ontasbulent5709 3 жыл бұрын
He was tired he fought for two decades and lost everyone a man can only take that much he just wanted peace in desth
@ronin3381
@ronin3381 3 жыл бұрын
He only had one leg. He could never have made it to a ship in time.
@skavanagh2778
@skavanagh2778 3 жыл бұрын
bro wasn't exactly fighting at the end lmao he was barely alive
@orbaitv5991
@orbaitv5991 3 жыл бұрын
@@ontasbulent5709 Too bad the movie executed that badly.
@sirafoosuwan3675
@sirafoosuwan3675 3 жыл бұрын
@@orbaitv5991 Not really if you watch the clone wars series. Saw basically fight for almost his life. I mean in Rogue One he said that there wasn't much of him left which implies that his body is broken, fast. Also, in that state, he won't be of much useful to the rebellion cause.
@Lord_Foxy13
@Lord_Foxy13 3 жыл бұрын
Real change can be achieved... Not by the actions of a single group... But by many groups fighting for the same cause their methods may vary but their goals are the same
@GAndreC
@GAndreC 3 жыл бұрын
To be the one group in power after the country is burned to ash? Because that is the norm when you have multiple outfits fighting one entity
@Lord_Foxy13
@Lord_Foxy13 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAndreC yes that does happen often,
@cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775
@cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775 3 жыл бұрын
SW Rebels did a good job depicting Saw Gerrera (Happy to see Forest Whittaker always come back to do the voice too). I'm only hoping that they can get a chance to show the Partisans a little bit more and why they were controversial.
@josephhamm5814
@josephhamm5814 3 жыл бұрын
Could you look into some of the factions in the battletech universe?
@KillerOrca
@KillerOrca 3 жыл бұрын
Was just thinking that myself
@josephhamm5814
@josephhamm5814 3 жыл бұрын
Great minds...
@andrewlim9345
@andrewlim9345 3 жыл бұрын
Good history of the Partisans from an in-universe series. Makes me miss Del Rey's Essential and New Essential Guide series.
@GenStallion
@GenStallion 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get a video about the Caven Angels?
@timmorris8932
@timmorris8932 3 жыл бұрын
The best way of cooking rice is in a decent steamer.
@marcbartuschka6372
@marcbartuschka6372 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was wasted potential in the use of Onderon both in Clone Wars and later that they used the planet but ignored great parts of its legends history. It would have been a funny Easter Egg if the resistance against the Separatists had been in some parts people who followed a Naddistic ideology they only half understand (after the Sith lord which line ruled the planet for so long), and the Jedi would have to cooperate with people who in a certain way look back to a imaginary golden age under Sith-rule...
@mixmaster3028
@mixmaster3028 3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna fight with them at first since the rebellion in this version didn’t start showing balls until episode four
@Austrian_Butcher
@Austrian_Butcher 2 жыл бұрын
People compare him to Che Guevara, however his tactics and operations remind more of Mujahideen and Thaliban mixed with the extreme violence of Al-Qaida.
@MrAsaqe
@MrAsaqe 2 жыл бұрын
I will say Polish Partisans, a desperate and failing resistance against the unstoppable might of a fascist regime who will spend as many lives needed to put the rebels down.
@patrik9328
@patrik9328 3 жыл бұрын
Partisans deserve their own show
@HistoryMonarch1999
@HistoryMonarch1999 3 жыл бұрын
I think we need to see more of the partisans a bit, see some clashes between factions, and actual arguments on what the galaxy would look like after the war. Put some spice on it.
@MrGrenadeMcBoom
@MrGrenadeMcBoom 3 жыл бұрын
This whole time I thought it was Saul.....
@barnettmcgowan8978
@barnettmcgowan8978 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I think you really nailed it!
@noahbarlow8225
@noahbarlow8225 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get one on something from visions?
@dionking3512
@dionking3512 3 жыл бұрын
Do the Sith Empire
@user-Jay178
@user-Jay178 3 жыл бұрын
The resistance towards the empire will always continue
@GAndreC
@GAndreC 3 жыл бұрын
Towards failed and inefficient entities you meanor not?
@rippingtons60
@rippingtons60 Жыл бұрын
Do a video for the Grysk Hegemony.
@Chinx313
@Chinx313 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear you talk about CSAT faction from arma 3
@BeeOppresion
@BeeOppresion 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to Dune content 🥺
@Bald_Zeus
@Bald_Zeus 3 жыл бұрын
the story of Tito but Stalin had a deathstar
@nicktechnubyte1184
@nicktechnubyte1184 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn't wrong though! Most of the rebellion were cowards! Look how they lost the new repubic!
@alextucker5819
@alextucker5819 6 ай бұрын
Given how Star Wars is based on World War II. I think the Partisans are based on the Yugoslav Partisans. Look up Yugoslav Partisans and you'll see why I think that. Because both have a lot in common.
@moemilitaryfan6667
@moemilitaryfan6667 3 жыл бұрын
Would you do a analysis on the new east or the new west from starset
@Hijinx1997
@Hijinx1997 3 жыл бұрын
Steela...
@mossgoodlass8439
@mossgoodlass8439 3 жыл бұрын
Am i the only one who thought it was "Sal" Garrera
@GAndreC
@GAndreC 3 жыл бұрын
Yep it sounded bapiry boopy
@killingragethrowback
@killingragethrowback 3 жыл бұрын
The New Republic has no choice but to disown the partisans or they will lose all moral legitimacy. They were too extreme. It's sad, but there you go.
@GAndreC
@GAndreC 3 жыл бұрын
Thus it is completely asinine for anyone to engage in partisan behavior in that universe
@casbot71
@casbot71 3 жыл бұрын
If only they had survived, to confront the First Order. Kylo was nervous about that concept, as shown in his review of Rogue One - once he finally got over the footage of his grandfather.
@animationfanatic2133
@animationfanatic2133 3 жыл бұрын
LIES, DECEPTION
@jubeidamasta
@jubeidamasta 3 жыл бұрын
Saw did nothing wrong.
@somerandomdude7785
@somerandomdude7785 3 жыл бұрын
That's why both the Rebellion & the Resistance need to act like the militia groups in the middle east.
@GAndreC
@GAndreC 3 жыл бұрын
But they were already funding them
@MrPyroCrab
@MrPyroCrab 3 жыл бұрын
New Canon sucks do more Legends stuff.
@SeanKL107
@SeanKL107 3 жыл бұрын
Saw Gerrera's Bin-Laden arc is one of the coolest ideas to come from the new canon IMO. His introduction in TCW set up the Mujahedeen parallels early on. - Jedi (CIA) sending in advisors to help train the resistance fighters - Insurgents using the mountains as a hideout - The Republic (US) illegally smuggling in rocket launchers to help the insurgents take down Sepratist gunships (Soviet Hinds) I'm really glad that Rogue One and Rebels showed us the continuation of that story with Saw becoming increasingly radicalized and violent.
@skepticalmagos_101
@skepticalmagos_101 3 жыл бұрын
I only realized this at the comparison of the Hinds and gunships...... Damn😮
@marcusanark2541
@marcusanark2541 Жыл бұрын
And now in Andor he lives in caves with his fighters.
@Kubinda12345
@Kubinda12345 3 жыл бұрын
I really like this part of the new canon. The anti-Imperial rebellion was always portrayed as good guys and the Partisans show that fighting against a brutal tyranny isn't always clean and that the rebels can very well become the thing they want to destroy so much. Save the rebellion. Save the dream.
@blakjackal
@blakjackal 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. In fact, rebellion is *never* clean. History is filled with atrocities committed in the name of freedom.
@seileen1234
@seileen1234 3 жыл бұрын
Still better than the empire
@Kubinda12345
@Kubinda12345 3 жыл бұрын
@@seileen1234 Not really. Both the Empire and the Partizans were ruthless and brutal factions who had no problem massacring the civilians, torturing captives etc. if it served their interests. The only difference is scope.
@wildfire9280
@wildfire9280 2 жыл бұрын
@@blakjackal Like tarring and feathering of loyalists in the American Revolutionary War. Their *skin* rotted off.
@wildfire9280
@wildfire9280 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kubinda12345 Adopting similar tactics still doesn’t make the Empire equal to them given their goals and ideals still differ greatly.
@andrewgilbertson5672
@andrewgilbertson5672 3 жыл бұрын
"Also, at some point EXTREMELY close to the time of his death, saw took significant injuries that led him to require specialized life support armor, and also had his mental instability increase to an extreme degree. These events were assumed by some to have been present for some time, but since every time he was seen by Rebel operatives up to that point, with increasing proximity to the events, he was fine, it presumably happened approximately a week beforehand. It is considered strange by many that this story has not yet been told."
@xionkuriyama5697
@xionkuriyama5697 3 жыл бұрын
I'd watch that as a short film tbh
@bubbasbigblast8563
@bubbasbigblast8563 3 жыл бұрын
In fairness to the Alliance, Mon Mothma was right: they were never going to beat the Empire using assassinations and bombs, at least against anyone other than the Emperor, who they would never get close to. The Alliance needed to break the Empire's doctrine of fear, showing the Imperial soldiers that defecting in the face of atrocities wasn't a death sentence, which would eventually force Vader and Palpatine to go to the places the Alliance might eventually be able to kill them, or even spark an outright coup.
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 3 жыл бұрын
They were both right. You can’t rely on violence alone but negotiating with the Empire while Sidious, Tarkin or Vader was in charge would’ve never worked.
@freekashyyyk896
@freekashyyyk896 3 жыл бұрын
@@neofulcrum5013 also, mon mothma definitely was not proven right, in both legends and canon the new republic lasted less than a generation and still allowed despotic imperial remnants to exist. If saw had survived into the post endor period, he wouldn’t have sat idly by as the vong decimated the galaxy, and he wouldn’t have allowed the first order to hide on the fringes either.
@mixmaster3028
@mixmaster3028 3 жыл бұрын
In the EU though she had guts.
@mixmaster3028
@mixmaster3028 3 жыл бұрын
In the EU they would’ve gotten a better press.
@freekashyyyk896
@freekashyyyk896 3 жыл бұрын
@@mixmaster3028 remember when she made peace with imperial remnants?
@FallenEpic
@FallenEpic 3 жыл бұрын
The broader Alliance being a rather sanitized organization is a good choice for the rebels because it gives a moderate and appealing vision for others to rally to and behind, "Restore the Republic" is straight forward, you know what the objective looks like, and all the hard work of what will or will not work for government when the Empire is destroyed has already been done by thousands of years of Republican history. However, not every rebel opposing the Empire will be on board with that, but rather have a vendetta against the Empire, or might be in favor of that objective but will use methods outside the standard Alliance affairs. It's a very convenient set up the Rebellion has. Some members are moderate and appealing, they can get things done diplomatically, other members or fringe groups can be more ruthless and messy, it's a good way to destabilize Imperial strategy, you can have both and if the more unhinged members go off the rails you can denounce them publicly but stay out of their way, win-win.
@logion567
@logion567 3 жыл бұрын
ultimately this kind of decentralized resistance, with many doctrines and morals, is one of the many advantages of guerilla Asymetrical Warfare.
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah if they embraced too much of saw’s methods they would’ve lost the hearts and minds of the oppressed galaxy.
@MrAsaqe
@MrAsaqe 3 жыл бұрын
Pit the rebellion against an empire run by the High Lords of Terra and inquisition and see what happens.
@ladygrey7425
@ladygrey7425 3 жыл бұрын
@@logion567 However, we're seeing that this kind of loose organization can become problematic after the resistance becomes the ruling government. Such is the case right now with the Taliban in the newly reestablished Emirate of Afghanistan. The emir of Kabul and his council have promised amnesty and a more moderate form of rule without corruption, mostly in order to attract foreign investment from Western, Slavic, and East Asian nations, but many of their troops loosely interpreted it or outright ignored it and went on revenge-killing sprees and implemented strict versions of Sharia in conquered districts. Not to mention they have ISIS-K to contend with and are trying to appease an ever-hungry and expansionist China who would love nothing more than to control Afghan's abundant mineral wealth entirely. And add to that many pro-republican troops, leaders, and civilians fled and regrouped in the Russian-backed and influenced Central Asian Republics like Uzbekistan and Tajikistan and are most likely plotting their own return to power. The Taliban won the war, but it remains to be seen if they can keep the peace.
@awesomehpt8938
@awesomehpt8938 3 жыл бұрын
Save the rebellion, save the dream
@mattstorm360
@mattstorm360 3 жыл бұрын
OH! An- And save your message! Jyn! You left it behind!
@ontasbulent5709
@ontasbulent5709 3 жыл бұрын
Che Guevara fighting the galactic empire the story the New Republic wouldn’t tell you
@thedragondemands5186
@thedragondemands5186 3 жыл бұрын
Though I die, the resistance lives on.
@WilliamMosicki-Nystrom
@WilliamMosicki-Nystrom 3 жыл бұрын
Factions I would like see next: 1. The Decepticons - Transformers 2. Goa'uld Empire - Stargate 3. The Batarian Hegemony - Mass Effect 4. House Martell of Sunspear - Game of Thrones 5. House Tyrell of Highgarden - Game of Thrones 6. The Reich - Metro Universe 7. The Court of Owls - DC Universe 8. The Saviors - The Walking Dead 9. The Brickleberry National Park Rangers - Brickleberry 10. House Tully of Riverrun - Game of Thrones
@foxxojones4757
@foxxojones4757 3 жыл бұрын
I for one especially want to see number 1, or perhaps the Autobots, or...
@pacificfederationpeacekeep999
@pacificfederationpeacekeep999 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video regarding the Pacific federation of project wingman...i would certainly like to see an informative video in such form
@ElysiumCreator
@ElysiumCreator 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the Goa’uld
@foxxojones4757
@foxxojones4757 3 жыл бұрын
@@pacificfederationpeacekeep999 Or Maybe an Episode of Atlas on Reine from Them’s Fightin’ Herds… because lord that game needs more attention.
@rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290
@rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290 3 жыл бұрын
The correct is "decepticons", not "deceptions". Please, stop trying to murder the english language.
@or_gluzman561Peace_IL_PS
@or_gluzman561Peace_IL_PS 3 жыл бұрын
their symbol literally look like the Maquism symbol from star trek!
@axolot9097
@axolot9097 3 жыл бұрын
Or an arrow from the Iron Front in Germany
@officalkingkrab1912
@officalkingkrab1912 3 жыл бұрын
Both based on European rebels during the 40s
@or_gluzman561Peace_IL_PS
@or_gluzman561Peace_IL_PS 3 жыл бұрын
@@axolot9097 yes i see
@ronaldlennier86
@ronaldlennier86 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god I just noticed that
@SacredGumby
@SacredGumby 3 жыл бұрын
Because they are both red?
@arandomcrusader-9355
@arandomcrusader-9355 3 жыл бұрын
The rebel alliance is the most sanitized resistance faction we’ve seen. I’d love to see a clash between two morally dark groups with the empire and something like the partisans. Something where the lines of good and evil aren’t so easily drawn.
@18Krieger
@18Krieger 3 жыл бұрын
Well there are hints that the Rebel Alliance did alot of rather questionable action behind the curtain. The Rebels had members commiting assassination and sabotage against non military targets and civilian victims seems to be rather common but later is just my assumption looking at their attacks on facilities like on Kuat. Cassian Andor is an example of an Rebel Agent that had done some assassinations.
@bubbasbigblast8563
@bubbasbigblast8563 3 жыл бұрын
Rather then the Alliance outright, it would probably be pirates who are loosely affiliated with the Alliance, which we kind of got in Rebels, but still to a sanitized extent. It did lead to a fun Table Top RPG though, where Mon Mothma got 'disappeared' by the Alliance Black Ops, who basically took over when the plans for the Death Star were destroyed. Mon Mothma didn't like using an old Sith super weapon to win, so off she went.
@generalgrievous696
@generalgrievous696 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds a bit on the Warhammer or Mass effect'ish side. To each their own. Personally for me the market in the dystopian, sci-fi, and fantasy genres is pretty chalk full of dark morally ambiguous protagonist and antagonist narratives already.
@generalgrievous696
@generalgrievous696 3 жыл бұрын
@@18Krieger I think the main part of it is motive and intent. Kuat shipyards were a blatant military Target not a civilian installation. The fact that there may have been civilian casualties doesn't mean that civilians were ever a intentional target. The empire used civilian slave labor in their factories like on lothal for their walkers and other weaponry and likely lothal wasn't an anomaly in that regard. It wouldn't be above the empire to put civilian labor on certain military bases as human shields so they could claim the rebels killed non military Target individuals. I mean consider the pr spin that came out after the rebels destroyed the death star from the empire. There's a distinct possibility that there were more prisoners in the detention area when the death star was destroyed but unfortunately some things like that might happen not intentionally but as a sad reality
@cmdraftbrn
@cmdraftbrn 3 жыл бұрын
basically you're looking for either warhammer 40k or warcraft. the closest you have filmwise escape from new york / l.a., road warrior, 1984, the afore mentioned warcraft, and a few others.
@TheLiamster
@TheLiamster 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love a video game (like Spec Ops: The Line but in the Star Wars universe) where I can play as a Partisan and fight against the Empire.
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 3 жыл бұрын
Oooo that sounds cool.
@skepticalmagos_101
@skepticalmagos_101 3 жыл бұрын
With the added moral degradation and PTSD.
@nicktechnubyte1184
@nicktechnubyte1184 3 жыл бұрын
He just wasn't the same after his sister's death
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah especially since her sacrifice was at then time in vain. They saved their world from the CIS only for the empire to swoop in.
@neofulcrum5013
@neofulcrum5013 3 жыл бұрын
I actually hope we get to see more of the Partisans and the Cloud Riders. The latter especially.
@bouncyrou1312
@bouncyrou1312 3 жыл бұрын
gigabased
@igncom1
@igncom1 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many different non-alliance resistance movements there were out there?
@ontasbulent5709
@ontasbulent5709 3 жыл бұрын
The Umbarans were probably one as they were a pretty isolated society
@igncom1
@igncom1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ontasbulent5709 I figured they were punished for being separatist members and cracked down on by the emerging empire.
@marimcgee8379
@marimcgee8379 3 жыл бұрын
Cham and his group were a bit extreme.
@ontasbulent5709
@ontasbulent5709 3 жыл бұрын
@@igncom1 so were many worlds but they rose up again against the empire again or continued to fight a Guerilla war until the fall of the Empire which they probably did
@sarahluise3153
@sarahluise3153 3 жыл бұрын
Separatist holdouts continued after the Clone Wars and it took the Empire several years to clean them up if that counts (and even the in Canon there were at least two Neo Separatist movements to emerge after Endor so the Empire learned that while they can kill the corps and the droids they can't kill the ideology)
@DraculaCronqvist
@DraculaCronqvist 2 жыл бұрын
"Perhaps the greatest tragedy of their struggle was that the Partisans had no place in the future they had fought to win, destined to be swept away by the progress of history." - As always, the revolution eats its children.
@freekashyyyk896
@freekashyyyk896 3 жыл бұрын
Based
@fulcrum2951
@fulcrum2951 3 жыл бұрын
I would agree with Saw Gerrera's need for action However, violating rules of engagements makes it problematic
@GAndreC
@GAndreC 3 жыл бұрын
M8 independent outfits work with their own rules of engagement which they may adjust to fit better with accepted rules in a conflict. But even their own rules could and should be bend by a leader whose goal is to keep his people alive.
@hiredmurderer6228
@hiredmurderer6228 2 жыл бұрын
The Partisan were very cool to be kept.
@TheHawkeye0725
@TheHawkeye0725 3 жыл бұрын
They forgot about Benthic’s partisans. He was Saw’s second and continued to lead them after his death. Even forming an alliance with leia.
@donpula6349
@donpula6349 3 жыл бұрын
True the Partisans still remained active Saw's death. After his death Benthic 2nd in command became the new leader of the partisans. Still having the same tactic used like the "Ambush on Jedha".
@imperialfist2304
@imperialfist2304 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda feel bad about those Partisans Crosshairs found.
@darkkothor
@darkkothor Жыл бұрын
Honnestly, compared to real rebellions, they are pretty vanilla.
@bloodlinehunter
@bloodlinehunter 3 жыл бұрын
Gods I love the Institute
@pokebreeder2517
@pokebreeder2517 3 жыл бұрын
i still wanna see someone do a what if saw's sister survived the clone wars? i think that would drasticly change the partisan
@MrAsaqe
@MrAsaqe 3 жыл бұрын
Of course, she may have ultimately joined the rebellion and offer a center of recruitment for new members of rogue one after Scarif as she would not throw her own life away. So we still see the Empire on their backs as they are kept off balance by more ruthless rebel commandos hitting the worst offenders of the Empire
@optillian4182
@optillian4182 Жыл бұрын
For the cause!
@Exarian
@Exarian 3 жыл бұрын
And yet all that was accomplished was returning to the pre-empire status quo. The same status quo that would inevitably lead to the same things happening again.
@KillerOrca
@KillerOrca 3 жыл бұрын
Hope is a nice byword and center point for speeches. But nothing makes the for wonder if it’s with it like a pile of bodies and nothing to show for it in return
@stickthelanding4785
@stickthelanding4785 3 жыл бұрын
I never liked saw gerra’s methods because that brings more people to the empire. Their tactics tend to harm civilians the people they are supposed to protect which in turn drastically lowers their support
@MrAsaqe
@MrAsaqe 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is when the population fear their ruler more that they don't see peaceful solutions or moral solutions working at all. If a Moff was hanging people in plain view or personally partaking in atrocities. The Partisans is a welcome sight because a part of us believe that brutality is the only option
@pacificfederationpeacekeep999
@pacificfederationpeacekeep999 3 жыл бұрын
Ut might not be ace combat or pw related but definitely something i ll take
@matthewlugardo4223
@matthewlugardo4223 3 жыл бұрын
Sayin that Jyn Ursa "served" with the partisans is a stretch
@matthewlugardo4223
@matthewlugardo4223 3 жыл бұрын
@Nathan Bernacki I mean that she didn't do anything with them that could be considered a collaboration.
@marimcgee8379
@marimcgee8379 3 жыл бұрын
First!
@kurtuhlig2553
@kurtuhlig2553 3 жыл бұрын
Another faction should be the Empire of Orlais from Dragon Age. Also the Chantry and Chant of Light in Dragon Age.
@Njprophet
@Njprophet 2 жыл бұрын
Bor Gullit.
@kamerondonaldson5976
@kamerondonaldson5976 Жыл бұрын
this is backwards. the imperial remnant are the protagonists, the new republic are the antagonists, real wars are supposed to mimic the ones seen in film, not vice versa, and... i guess they got the defiance of the enemy's rules right at least.
@jeskler
@jeskler 3 жыл бұрын
Bazinga
@nicktechnubyte1184
@nicktechnubyte1184 3 жыл бұрын
Dives into ball pit
@hotpocketreviews
@hotpocketreviews 3 жыл бұрын
Bazinga
@thegradyfiles
@thegradyfiles 3 жыл бұрын
4:34 say goodbye to that guy
@Sasuke81a
@Sasuke81a 3 жыл бұрын
I was curious if there will be a video on Nerv from Evangelion?
@DABViktor
@DABViktor 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you the English subtitle.
@explodingwolfgaming8024
@explodingwolfgaming8024 3 жыл бұрын
Commenting 4 algorithm
@MPKb19
@MPKb19 3 жыл бұрын
Comment for statistics
@seanmurphy7183
@seanmurphy7183 3 жыл бұрын
Well done
@zingtea
@zingtea 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't seem to have an ideology.
@GAndreC
@GAndreC 3 жыл бұрын
They had none they just wanted to burn down the building currently standing
@ghivifahmi4252
@ghivifahmi4252 2 жыл бұрын
Rebels in OT: goodie two shoes heroes Rebels in Rogue One: space ISIS
@MrAsaqe
@MrAsaqe 2 жыл бұрын
More like OT:French Resistance rogue one: Eastern European Partians
@therodenne.GA.1
@therodenne.GA.1 3 жыл бұрын
I have just discovered your channel, but it is an original and super well done job ... respect
@KEVMAN7987
@KEVMAN7987 3 жыл бұрын
How many of the Partisans survived Jehda?
@MrAsaqe
@MrAsaqe 3 жыл бұрын
Several of them, they would later become the Dreamers movement and the main antagonist for Inferno squad
@ToxicCoffeeTM
@ToxicCoffeeTM 3 жыл бұрын
Saw is unfathomably based
@Bpinator
@Bpinator Жыл бұрын
For real, when saw told Luthen he was the only one with clarity he was right
@emilianomerendino3311
@emilianomerendino3311 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool job, where do the dreamers appear? For next, may I ask the Shibusen from Soul Eater.
@mattwoodard2535
@mattwoodard2535 3 жыл бұрын
"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster." sm
@yuyaplays9311
@yuyaplays9311 3 жыл бұрын
You know I love getting these reports of the various places the institute investigates but I am always concerned for the wellbeing of the personnel sent to these alternate realities. I think eventually we should get some video footage from the personnel in the field some time so that we can make sure that the appropriate precautions are taken to ensure the survivability our agents.
@kylea1245
@kylea1245 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video on Freespace. Specifically the Shivan's
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 3 жыл бұрын
The Rebel equivalent of the Mujahadeen. No one in their right mind would support them. If Hunter had any sense, he'd have ordered Crosshair to open fire against them. The small amount of civilian casualties caused by fighting them would be offset by all the civilians who would still be alive if it weren't for Saw's Partisans attacking in civilian areas.
@tacticalmanatee
@tacticalmanatee 3 жыл бұрын
while I don't mind the character itself, the idea of naming a character in an American movie/cartoon after a person who infamously targeted kids and teens caught with or even exposed to American pop culture and media is pretty messed up.
@GAndreC
@GAndreC 3 жыл бұрын
Wtf u talking about hoss?
@tacticalmanatee
@tacticalmanatee 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAndreC Saw Gerrera's name is derived from Che Guevara
@GAndreC
@GAndreC 3 жыл бұрын
@@tacticalmanatee But he didn’t target kids based on American culture if anything was used as a symbol of american counterculture or culture counter to the US outside of the US. The professors and the commie europeans promoted it as American counter culture and elsewhere as part of the narrative of someone standing against the negative aspects of the US as perceived by the local governments.
@tacticalmanatee
@tacticalmanatee 3 жыл бұрын
@@GAndreC he murdered a LOT of kids and teens. Listening to rock music was a pet peeve of his. If he found out he would shoot the unfortunate kid in the back of the head with a pistol. That sort of execution work was basically the only trigger time he actually got, contrary to his reputation.
@FlymanMS
@FlymanMS 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve just realized that Saw Guerera is such an obvious take on Che Guevara.
@GAndreC
@GAndreC 3 жыл бұрын
How so?
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