There's nothing like the feel of a traditional shaped saw handle, for beauty and ergonomics they can't be beat.
@TalRohanАй бұрын
and theyre dying out, I value even woodwormy ones to get the patterns to follow. These plastic handled jobs you can't sharpen are horrors to use.
@Kozilak2 жыл бұрын
As a saw maker in 2022, I appreciate these videos
@jimdavis8391 Жыл бұрын
I have made a couple of replacement handles from apple wood.
@ef2b6 ай бұрын
The handles aren't simply "austere." The missing details compared to earlier saws aren't esthetic. They contribute to the control of the saw. Comfort relates to being able to relax, which affects the cut. Kinesthetic sense relates to control, accuracy, and efficiency. The details on the top of the handle, which are simply gone now, actually serve a purpose when using a cross-hand grip with the off-hand (two-handed sawing). I am fortunate to have very old saws for my regular use at the bench. If I received a "quality saw" made today, I'd remake the handle. This isn't to criticize these men. I would wager they are quite capable of making the old detailed handles, but had to work to the market.
@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat65892 ай бұрын
"Eeee, 'ark at him!" is exactly what they would have said to a know-it-all lahk thisen.
@TalRohanАй бұрын
All the old ones are the patterns to hang onto and copy if at all possible , even worm riddled ones have huge value.
@bigoldgrizzlyАй бұрын
I absolutely agree. What has been captured on this video is the absolute tail end of a skilled craftsman working way below his capabilities, making budget handles. They are simply third grade compared to those made up to the 1940s. Plenty still out there if you look hard and long, and today at 5am I hit a rich vein from 2 sellers at a car boot sale, coming away with 6 handsaws and 4 backsaws all with older 'proper' handles and blades in good/very good condition. All named makers, 9 from Sheffield and 2 Disstons. total cost £10 If it isn't shiny with a pretty plastic handle, folks just don't want them. I learned the skill of sharpening and re-cutting teeth in the 1960s and now I'm retired I enjoy giving these lovely old saws a new lease of life, [also scored three No.52 1/2 vices, all pre-war for £30 so came home for breakfast a very happy fella]
@TalRohanАй бұрын
@@bigoldgrizzly I wouldnt say third grade, theyre still far better than any mass produced plastic rubbich you can buy today but theyre not the top notch stuff they would originally have been
@bigoldgrizzlyАй бұрын
@@TalRohan That's a fair assessment. At least you can adapt wooden handles to be more comfortable to your particular hand. I would make a distinction between traditionally made saw plates and the all too common Induction hardened teeth [hardpoint] saws. At some point in time, a few of the traditional Sheffield manufacturers did produce saws with plastic handles moulded in similar style to older handles, and the saw plates on some of these are very good. In my workshop. I prefer to replace these plastic jobs with old pattern handles from 'donor' saws. I recently got a lovely 'as new' brass back 10" tenon saw by Sorby's but with a gruesome moulded plastic handle Hardpoint saws are handy for sawing reclaimed timber or the like, when you are likely to come across old nails or grit - generally they don't last long as the teeth get knocked off [they still make good cabinet scrapers though]
@chrisgamester9845Ай бұрын
Just one little thing to add. Have you noticed on the beautiful old handles the timber is nearly always quarter sawn thus ensuring it stays flat. Now they pretty much never are. 😢
@MisterBurtonshaw2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic to see, what was, the final stages of British made tools.... and then woodworkers wanted those products again :)
@CleaveMountaineering Жыл бұрын
Fantastic. I love my old Disston saws, interesting to see them made like that. The belt sander for getting the inside was pretty neat!
@TalRohanАй бұрын
Something I have noiticed through watching these videos is that most if not all the people involved are shall we say a little older, infact 30 years on I imagine most are gone which leaves the bearers of the knowledge with yet another older set like myself. I know some processes in these videos but they often surprise me and I worked in the industry for a while.
@daveylad2Ай бұрын
I remember ‘Disston’ saws being top of the line
@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat65892 ай бұрын
The laboriousness of the jigging process: surely a Kipp handle or a cam lockdown would have sped things up a bit? & what was the deal with the dust extraction system? Non-existent? Broken? No wonder these trades died out. & I speak as the son of a North Yorkshire carpenter and joiner, brought up on Spear & Jackson, Marples, Record, Stanley, Eclipse, Footprint and Rabone Chesterman as the epitome of all things quality in woodworking. It just makes me sad.
@dalanbronnenberg Жыл бұрын
You guys really have your shit wired tight. Great work.
@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat65892 ай бұрын
30 years ago. None of these exist any more: only Sanderson Kayser and Tyzack, and nowhere near this quality.
@tonywright8294Ай бұрын
Wanker
@ktrak21713 жыл бұрын
Dust control back then? what bloody dust you big girls blouse................
@jimurrata67853 күн бұрын
Dust control is a piece of box tape across your lapels...