SawStop Part 2, Changing the brake and blade and a further activation

[@Dubjaxfilms]

Regardless of the fact that this video is an advert, this machine is Extremely impressive and should be an industry standard. A complete no brainer, anything less than this isn't good enough.

[@ukconstruction]

It will save lively hoods

[@Dubjaxfilms]

@@ukconstruction Limbs and digits are more important than lively hoods, finding another job is a lot easier than finding another finger.

[@timsapsford1739]

The US are planning on changing the law and making this mandatory, and Saw Stop have said if this does happen they will give up the patent and allow all manufacturers use this technology for free, so looks like we will soon be seeing this on all table saws

[@lloyd4011]

Robin is so pleased how many times he can say sausage. And rightfully so.

[@terrygleeson8480]

I have been a joinery tutor for the property & objects students at the National Institute of Dramatic Art in Sydney. They had a Sawstop installed in their workshop. They also had a laser cutter which left carbon on the cut edge. This carbon was enough to activate the break. The students didn’t need to bring their own sausage.

[@jellyartist]

I worked in a museum technical department and we had a Festool with a similar brake. We often would cut foil covered board (which was used for display work and was foiled to minimise off gassing from the wood. (This helps protect sensitive objects in cases/ enclosed environments). The foil covered wood set off the brake too. Luckily we had a couple of other saws we could use for that product.

[@lezbriddon]

when you watch a 10 minute infomercial but its so damn impressive you don't realise your watching an infomercial.....and then you still dont care because it is so damn impressive. congrats

[@ukconstruction]

Thank you!!

[@frankmckie2992]

Fantastic piece of kit ..... thanks for sharing Robin.

[@sally6457]

It's a brilliant idea, I just worry that it will make people more complacent, and increase the amount of injuries on machines that don't have this feature.

[@415volts]

Interesting thx & good to see pricing too.

[@lo0nyk]

that's a brilliant piece of kit! wow

[@jonesconrad1]

I can understand how they activate based of moisture, capacitance , something . But what is impressive is how quickly it the blade is gone.

[@Monkeh616]

Capacitance is exactly it - unless they've changed the mechanism from the patent, they're basically coupling a signal across the blade, if you load the blade down with something capacitive or conductive to the table, it sees a loss of signal and triggers. If you run a sausage in without touching it, it won't trigger. Even wearing gloves to hold the sausage should be ample to defeat it. Of course, if it's your finger the moment it gets through the glove, away goes the blade. It moves away so fast because the brake pretty much directly converts the rotation of the blade into vertical motion. Saw throwing itself.

[@gregorymacneil2836]

If there was a cordless model available, that would be ideal. I'm wondering if a corded table saw is still considered essential for the job site these days? I went to a dewalt cordless table saw just because it is quick to set up for the very limited number of times it is needed. The SawStop, however, is undoubtedly a safety standard that all tools should be working towards.

[@FPL-LARD]

there are also times its been known to lock when nothing was in danger and it costs a bob or 2 to replace, but as a safety feature it's second to none.

[@jonesconrad1]

moisture in timber Robin also went through that in part 1 the guy said its remarkably uncommon, but either way i'd take that over it not activating when it should

[@415volts]

There is a feature to do a test cut with the brake de-activated if you think your timber is that wet. The saw will then let you know if it will activate due to the moisture conductivity.

[@JR-el7et]

This is such great news, you wouldn't believe the amount of Hot Dog sausages I've needlessly lost over the years while ripping.

[@ukconstruction]

Top marks!! Like that!!

[@mgabbard]

Amazing technology.

[@James-dv1df]

Love the video. Would be cool to see a video with matt estlea with you being a cabinet maker for the day and other way around

[@ukconstruction]

Well I am sure he would enjoy that as much as me!!! I am guessing you have seen the collab video I did with him???

[@dougsaunders8109]

@@ukconstructionyep, every one I have seen you work with can’t believe the speed you work at. Keith Brown being another

[@samsingh2042]

Hey Robin, hope your good , looked for this machine but it's not available in the UK yet, how did you get hold of it

[@djhago3123]

Id love to see something like that on a spindle moulder or a planer..

[@cj-rb8fz]

Would it still work if you turned the sausage (or a finger ) if you turned it 90 degrees so it would be the end of the sausage (or end of finger) first and also if the user was wearing gloves

[@hughmartin6964]

Hi, I was wondering where you got your saw horse legs

[@bradjones5266]

Hi Robin, looks like a great machine. On a separate note, what make of ear protection do you use? Thanks

[@ukconstruction]

Hi Brad, these are from 3M and they are noise cancelling, bluetooth and have ambient listening mode, nice bit of kit

[@debar1944]

Great videos; that is some machine!

[@ukconstruction]

Yes they are!

[@DIYLONDON]

Excellent rob! Frozen sausage test ? I know my fingers are tougher than a hotdog ! 😂❤️, I’d keep trying at sawstops expense . 😂 well done again mate. 👍

[@NickFabi]

Great video Rob, we all know by now it works! What we really want to know is how does its performance stack up against the rest! Yes they don’t have the same safety features but they are also a fraction of the price. I know safety first but given the patent expiration are we likely to start seeing cheaper options with the same tech.? And with the new safety bill that’s coming in in America are we likely to start seeing an influx of machines coming out and over the pond? Soooo many questionssssss

[@samgreig6947]

And Robin, there are too many innuendos in this video to mention 😂 #savemysausage

[@jonesconrad1]

been waiting for this.

[@Spitfire67UK]

That really is great. Could they add this to other tools like spindle molders?

[@415volts]

A spindle moulder would probably need at least a huge 50kg lump of ali to stop it I reckon - due to tooling weight and inertia - that in itself would likely cause more dangers. It's a lot different to a saw blade spinning. Most commercial moulders I've seen are used with powerfeeds anyway for a uniform finish & of course safety.

[@Spitfire67UK]

@@415volts "at least 50kg" really, I doubt that. Feed wheels are great but no good for following a pattern.

[@415volts]

@@Spitfire67UK OK, 50kg was an exaggeration maybe - I haven't done the maths, but it would need a decent chunk to stop a heavy block in a split second for sure. Pattern following via ring fences of course are by hand - I have mainly encountered linear mouldings in commercial though.

[@martindorrance8133]

Do sawstop do a battery version, Robin?

[@troyboy4345]

Try it with a full English next time Robin .... 😁

[@llamedosr7843]

Might end up with egg on his face

[@davidgoodwin8232]

Why does nobody use a guard anymore on table saws? Rarely, its necessary to remove it for certain work, but as a built in safety feature, it should always be on.

[@terryswinhoe8118]

What is the cost of a replacement cartridge please

[@pgtips4240]

£80!!

[@markewings7525]

I want to see you try it with your hand

[@conorlavery4762]

The sausage demo looks amazing...... but still not sure I'd trust it......😂

[@paulzirker706]

All we want to know is costs as its an impressive development in technology. Was that £79.99 for new brake block? So £110 if you crude new blade is defo cheaper than 2-4 weeks minium off work with sawed finger.

[@ukconstruction]

Yes Paul, £79.00 for the replacement brake and a decent blade would be about £30 to £50

[@paulfinnonjoinery]

not that im one for sausage action or anything but a canny bit of kit. couldnt help but notice its set up opposite to normal table saws where there is a bolt that holds the blade on. assume these saws could be used with one of those psycopathic looking dado blade sets?

[@retiree1033]

Why change the arbor to 30mm?!?!?

[@Stewart_Bell]

Something about this Sawstop patent business sits sourly with me, and that's because it puts profit above safety, which is the wrong priority. Not necessarily a dig at Sawstop either but there are definitely some moral obligations not being triggered by either Sawstop or the lawyers. The nub of the problem is that the product is so damn good. And speaking of wellbeing, Robin, don't eat those sausages as they're highly processed food; best utilised for tool demos 😎🤙

[@LickorishAllsorts]

Sawstop put the technology into the public domain (U.S. Patent 9,724,840) subject to the introduction of a US safety requirement.

[@riptonedwards9175]

TTS festool is in negotiation with us safety regulators I believe they have come to agreement that other manufacturers will be able to use sawstop tech they will pay TTS festool a fee

[@samgreig6947]

What happens if you’re wearing gloves??

[@HogeN1337]

hole in glove

[@edc1569]

How do they know if it was an activation that saved a digit, can’t get my head around how they’d know the difference

[@pgtips4240]

Can we just be honest here. It's £80 plus a blade to get back up and running. He says if the data shows it was a finger activation you will get a free cartridge....? This is all good and well but this tells me that other things can trigger an activation and this to me atm is a deal breaker until I know what and how often it's going to be triggered. So can you just be completely open and honest with us as £80 plus a new blade after every activation is a lot of money. It's not a lot if it saves a finger bit it is a lot if it decides to activate because the timber moisture level is a bit high.

[@KRAMPUS1933]

The ingredients of that sausage are more likely to harm your health than the saw blade.

[@tomasmorrissey7324]

Great tool its like insurance u hope u never have to use it

[@Ferbeldeyberb]

Could a big insect or even a bird shit activate it?

[@Paul_Holmes]

Robin, would you test this with your finger for £100,000? 😂

[@ukconstruction]

yes

[@cliveramsbotty6077]

i'd test it with my todger for a 100k

[@Mark-gf7yw]

I tested one with my mickey, my mates now call me Mary 😔

[@FiscalWoofer]

@@ukconstructionplease don’t just in case!

[@pgtips4240]

There is more than adequate technology today to design this without having to break a cartridge every activation. The design of this makes me highly suspicious. Are we supposed to believe that sawstop designed this with a view to have as few activations as possible? What can't people see this,

[@sttm1283]

nice feature and machine, but it shouldnt be necessary if people would be extra careful when using that type of saw. use a pushblock or pushstick. just keep your godamm fingers and hands away.

[@llamedosr7843]

It's witchcraft

[@Blobjonblob]

Anyone remember when Bosch came out with their version of this tech and Saw Stop brought them to court. From what I remember Bosch had a better version of this. When Volvo produced the seat belt they didn't patent it they wanted all car manufactures to us for safety.

[@tomasmorrissey7324]

Has anyone darted with there finger yet

[@JuiceBanger1]

its too dear for me. needs to be a lot cheaper.

[@TheToolnut]

It's a sausage fest!

[@flyerphil7708]

I think it is a disaster. Can you tell me how to check it will work every time without changing the unit and blade?. Just use a proper guard and riving knife. Relying on tech is dangerous, imho.

[@christianalvarez7799]

Sawstop sued Bosch when they bought out their own version. Sawstop should be ashamed of themselves for not letting other manufacturers from using their technology.

[@kempshott]

According to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SawStop Bosch were infringing two patents, so suing is not unreasonable, though licensing would have been nicer. Looks like it may all be resolved soon...

[@grahamgodwin7200]

Whilst I agree with the principle of what you’re saying, we need to understand SawStop have undoubtedly spent 00s of thousands possibly millions developing this technology, Bosch would have taken them to court if it was reverse roles. Im sure there’s nothing stopping Bosch from paying SawStop to use the technology, so were Bosch doing it on moral safety grounds or for extra money? Think we all know the answer to that.

[@mergrew0110]

Loved the way Robin almost couldn’t keep his hands away from helping the guy changing the blade. 🥸