Say Goodbye to My Harmony Elite Remote? - YIO Remote Two

[@Youthman]

The YIO Remote Two looks incredibly promising to possibly replace the Harmony Elite remote. YIO Remote Two Kickstarter - bit.ly/YIO_Remote_Two_Kickstarter YIO Remote Two Livestream - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y32Yp4BumKqsjpI Sofabaton X1 Review - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqfCY2uViMR9Y9k Visit hometheatertours.com to submit yours for a possible tour - hometheatertours.com. Pricing on Home Theater products - youthmanreviews.com/sales/ Ways You Can Support: Patreon: www.patreon.com/youthman Youthman Courses - www.youthmancourses.com/ Youthman Merch - teespring.com/stores/youthman/

[@Adriansitos623]

Will you be selling your Harmony? @youthman

[@Youthman]

Likely so but they won’t be selling these until next year. Anything I’m selling always list on Patreon

[@TecTimmy]

I’m excited about the Sofabaton X1 as well. I just did an unboxing over on my channel kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKHPiXedqdOhb9U

[@rolandrohde]

If they bring something like the Harmony Hub, then I will switch. I don't actually use a Harmony Remote but the Hub, combined with an Echo Speaker allows me to turn on and off everything I need.

[@koma-k]

sounds like something like the Broadlink RM4 Pro is what you're after. Haven't tried it myself, but have read good things about it and I believe it'll integrate with Alexa etc.

[@rolandrohde]

@@koma-k I've tried it. It doesn't work...it can control some extremely basic functions on a few Devices, but can't even come close to duplicating what the Logitech Hub can do.

[@jpitt916]

I'm glad someone stepped up. Still has a big problem of not nearly enough physical buttons.

[@Youthman]

That’s not a problem for me. I only use a few hard buttons on my Harmony elite. Everyone’s needs are different

[@cigarobsession]

Cool concept, but until there's a shipping real product with known function, I'm not getting excited. In a year, hopefully it's real and matches the Elite functionality.

[@stefanlasser6535]

They already successfully funded and delivered the version one. 😃

[@Youthman]

I’m an optimist so I will maintain my excitement and hope. Yes they originally had a Kickstarter for their first remote one so I’m confident they will be able to make an even better product in the remote two.

[@ziqfriq]

Yes, it's a lot of scratch to be putting on the line. If successful, it should be available as a retail product eventually, but apparently the Remote 1 never was.

[@TonELowq]

@youthman They released the YIO Remote 2 a while ago. Have you had a chance to review it?

[@Youthman]

I have reached out several times expressing an interest in reviewing it. It’s up to them whether they send it.

[@mfkhometheater7742]

I bought two Harmony's when they announced it would be discontinued, both are still in the box. When I ordered them I thought I would be using them by this time but of course the house took too long to complete. Good news though, my Tuscany seats are arriving tomorrow morning, at least 13 of them, the last shouldn't be far behind.

[@Youthman]

Congrats on the new seats! Can’t wait to see you’re finished build. Be sure to share it with me

[@jerrybichsel1855]

A little over a year after the airing of this video and little to no updates on the YIO. I doubt it's going to become available, ever.

[@Youthman]

Many companies experienced delays due to the pandemic. I’ll reach out to them to see if I can get an update.

[@38special4ever]

Logitech said that they will still run and maintain the back end database, so you will probably get another 10 years use of your Harmony remotes.

[@Youthman]

I wouldn’t hole your breath. I don’t see how they will continue to support and add new devices when they aren’t making any money.

[@Analyzer52]

@@Youthman Don't forget that you can add codes yourself and teach it commands. It also gets things added by the community. Long as they don't shut the servers down you really don't need Logitech

[@38special4ever]

@@Youthman Instead of pissing off customers (that will never by anything from Logitech again), they can win good will points that benefits the brand. Cost of maintaining the back end is basically nothing.

[@Youthman]

I guess time will tell how long they support Harmony.

[@Gamer4Eire]

@@Youthman this is scaremongering for the sake of pushing a new product. A community support product that doesn't exist. Logitech has made it very clear officially that they will support these products into the future. Unfortunately this is this is the video that makes me unsubscribe.

[@AeroDude73]

I have a Brand New Harmony One I got last year that I’ve been meaning to setup. But I wonder if I should sell it instead (?) 🤔

[@Youthman]

Depends on what you need. The Harmony Elite is a significant upgrade and much easier to program via their app as opposed to how you setup the Harmony One

[@kaunas9734]

@Steven Tyler.. I'd buy it from you. Been looking for a 900.

[@stevelk1329]

Been following the 'time thread' for this and it seems like it's about a year late. Isn't that true? Haven't they been promising it for about that long now?

[@richo7751]

As a blind guy i use Harmony hub/companion remote, mainly for physical buttons etc. yeah i do have it connected with Google/crome cast for voice control which is mostly ok. Could any remote have an IPhone app equivalent so i can use Apple’s accessibility screen reader, Voice Over. I got into Harmony to negate me having to know what each button does on standard component remotes. Would love any concept including or some how provisioning for accessibility through IPhone app.

[@jonathan9130]

This looks physically and even interface wise similar to my C4 Neeo. I’ll be all over this

[@sitisitiveni650]

Is it possible to get a universal remote that unclude voice control

[@muhammedsaman3999]

My harmony application on desktop keep giving error in login page , and restarting itself, how can I fix it? It's frustrating to not be able to login.

[@Youthman]

I was helping a friend two nights ago setup his Harmony Elite and he was unable to create an account on the app. We had to create the account on the desktop. Try and reset your password

[@muhammedsaman3999]

@@Youthman i was trying on the desktop app , but it didn't work, is there any other way?

[@Youthman]

Go directly to their website or try the mobile app

[@muhammedsaman3999]

@@Youthman I've tried the mobile app as well but there I couldn't find the setup, it gave me 2 options below : *Set up new hub *Connect to hub It didn't give me account creation section,My remote is harmony 650.

[@Youthman]

Sorry, not sure what worked to tell you. Unfortunately Logitech has discontinued the product but supposably is still going to provide service. I would reach out to their tech support (if they have one)

[@BerserkeR_031]

Is there a follow up on this in the near future?

[@Youthman]

I just saw today in their form that customers are beginning to receive their orders. I’m waiting to review the YIO Remote 2 for review but do not have a time frame. It is the only user programmable remote currently on the market that I believe has the potential to replace (and likely exceed) the Harmony Elite.

[@Youthman]

Sorry, in my initial reply, I thought you were asking about an updated video on the the Sofabaton or Best Joy Super Remote that I reviewed. 😉

[@BerserkeR_031]

​@Youthman Sad to see no reviews yet on the YIO 2 remote.

[@Youthman]

@BerserkeR._. I have made several requests to Unfolded Circle (they changed the name of their brand) to review it as I believe it has the potential to exceed what the Harmony Elite offered. The last reply I heard from them was on Oct 23, 2023. “Hi, we'll send you one as soon as we can. We're quite busy now with all sorts of things and our priority is shipping to backers.”

[@DmaaaaaxC]

Are there any good universal remotes RIGHT now that can replace my Harmony Elite? I just changed my router to full 5Ghz and now the Hub will not work. Since the hub does not work, neither does the remote or phone app. HELP please!!!

[@Youthman]

Nope. That’s the issue. Until YIO releases the Remote Two, we do not have a good option

[@DmaaaaaxC]

@@Youthman Thanks for the reply. Is there any short term options that are ok? Possibly the Sofabaton U1 or X1? And it has to work on 5Ghz, or just IR for now.

[@Youthman]

I was not impressed with the X1. Way too buggy when I reviewed it. Hopefully they will work out the bugs with firmware updates.

[@soisaid9004]

When can I say it????

[@davelettman7027]

Pleasant good day to you. I have a question for you on your Wisconsin/Illinois theatre tour you got to experience the Hoverboss and a set up where the subwoofers were directly behind the seats. Was there a difference in the response? And if so which one did you prefer and why?

[@mckennydixon2725]

hey YM, any thoughts/ comments on the D-Sonic class d line of amplifiers ?

[@Youthman]

I have only heard of them, but have no experience with them

[@jdonn2678]

Harmony is a lot like a relationship, if you're lucky a few buttons might annoy you from time to time, however you'll often forget that and just enjoy when they get you ;)

[@Youthman]

Haha problem is Harmony is breaking up with me lol

[@jdonn2678]

@@Youthman that looks like a fantastic remote, ill happily be on board with one! Great review thank you!

[@Youthman]

The review is to come once they get it programmed and tested. Still some development to do

[@jdonn2678]

@@Youthman then great review of the review to come! Ps: have you ever reviewed the dr3 by emotiva? Looking for a new amp on my Rf-7iii/RC-64III setup. Cheers!!!

[@Youthman]

I have the DR3. Still need to review it 🤦‍♂️

[@dallasdrew2390]

can I buy this yet?

[@johnd9272]

YIO looks to be built more solidly. What are some of the functionality items missing from the sofabaton compared to the harmony elite? I'm going to back both as I have 2 rooms I want to control, just trying to figure out what I'll be missing from the elite that I currently use.

[@Youthman]

Some of the differences between my Harmony elite and the Sofabaton X1 is RF, a solid performing app (that should get better with updates), and touch screen

[@lefamiglia2392]

Can any of the remote support Xiaomi projector?

[@Tuiahsa]

Michael.....please keep this content coming. I too am a Elite owner and love how easy it is to program. While I am currently satisfied, I am concerned with a future replacement. Please keep this sort of content up!!!!

[@Youthman]

Thanks Steve. That’s my concern as well. The Harmony Elite is far from perfect but has served me well over the years.

[@Saturn2888]

I overlooked this remote thinking YIO meant it was yet another Chinese company, but then they rebranded as "Unfolded" and I saw more videos on it. Very interesting. I backed the Remote Three on Kickstarter and got 3 of them! I'm a big user of Home Assistant, so I'm hoping to use it as a home control that isn't as ugly as a giant tablet sitting in the room.

[@jaden9037]

Thanks for you video and honesty on use of remote. Would like to ask are the theater seats Valencia ? I am looking to get 1 and wanted your feedback on use

[@Youthman]

Yes if you search KZbin for Valencia Youthman you will find about five different videos of different models that I have reviewed

[@jaden9037]

@@Youthman Is there a certain model that you think is best?

[@Youthman]

Tuscany Ultimate Luxury has most features and has the softest leather but it’s also twice as much as the standard Tuscany version. Both are very comfortable.

[@Youthman]

I also like the Oslo.

[@jaden9037]

@@Youthman thank you so much I appreciate that. I was looking at the Tuscany version

[@Richardcardiel-xs2yl]

How much? Who will program the remote and where can we purchase?

[@Youthman]

Go to their website

[@bahchiin]

I received mine a few days ago. I want the charging stand to be near me but to use the cabled blasters without having cables everywhere you have to put the charging stand near the components. The idea that you probably have to buy at least two docks if you need to use the blasters is inconvenient. I'm not happy yet but we'll see.

[@Youthman]

Thanks for the feedback. I haven’t yet received a unit to review.

[@bahchiin]

@@Youthman These aren't ready to be reviewed. The software is just barely beta. I have a URC MX-1200 and Harmony Elite that I'd like to replace but the YIO 2 isn't close yet.

[@Youthman]

And that very well may be why I haven’t received one yet. Once I do, I can share my thoughts on it.

[@andrewbaker4503]

I hope they have a full documented and open API for full integrations. None of this proprietary cloud only APP BS that is so prevalent these days. Heres to hoping.

[@lo_fye]

Looks like they do! And the Kickstarter for Remote 3 begins June 21st. €279 early bird includes hub!

[@andrewbaker4503]

@@lo_fye We will see. SofaBaton did as well, then it was removed from the remote and they scrubbed their site and forum of references. So I'll wait once something has been out awhile.

[@shaneducholke364]

I have a box of old Harmony remotes, even the Xbox 360 remote, that I don't use anymore as I have upgraded over the years and I have given away a number of them to family members. Even though I won't need a remote replacement for awhile, especially with replacement batteries sold on Amazon for cheap, there is a huge opening for a simple yet advanced remote in the market. Unfortunately, there is a good chance that it may be phone based since so many people like to integrate their phone with everything they do. I will always be a dedicated remote guy and most home theater enthusiasts are probably the same, unfortunately we make up a very small portion of the market. I am very interested to see what this company has to offer

[@vacguy77]

Is this ever going to be available?

[@Youthman]

They started shipping last month. Check their website.

[@JasperTielen]

Did anyone see the price for the yio? It's €450,-??

[@shaneducholke364]

The OLED screen looks amazing. My one concern just by looking at it is the flat panel hard buttons, I like button separation so I can feel the buttons without looking at the remote, even if it is backlit. I think there is technology today that is better than the Harmony environment, it just has to be used properly

[@Youthman]

They mentioned in their live stream that the buttons have spaces between them that can be easily felt

[@MajorTendonitis]

Elite owner here . I went to buy another one for the gym in my basement, then find out Logitech got out of the remote business. My jaw dropped , as I absolutely love the Elite remote . Spent one evening programming it, then a few hours each day during the week till I had all the functions accessible on my pre pro . I don’t like the idea of buying a used Elite knowing full well that their server may be shut down someday. I try to stay positive,but didn’t believe there would be a good replacement option . Glad I found your channel , as I’m aware of the YIO remote , and it’s looking promising

[@Get_yotted]

TBH if the Harmony servers ever get taken down the remote has so many enthusiasts that there will likely be a third party server or application made to program them.

[@taxi615]

Those Yio remotes look like will be in the 400-500$ range. The first tier backing is almost 600$ and that doesn't include the shipping lol. This remote needs to do my banking and feed my cat at that price lol 😆

[@TheoneDragon51]

For real, maybe one day if it's a reasonable price.

[@Youthman]

That’s where the SofaBaton may be a better fit for someone that has a lower budget

[@Youthman]

And when you compare even $600 to a Control4, Crestron or Savant system, that would be considered inexpensive.

[@gbmaxse]

Bro you do motorcycle track days, you know $600 for a remote isn't expensive

[@taxi615]

@@gbmaxse lol yeah I do think 600$ for a controller is nuts even if racing is a massive expense that's why I have big sponsors helping me out. If the end price is in the 250-300$ that's much more appealing.

[@housbinpharteen7445]

I used to have the Philips Pronto remote , now that thing was Amazing .. you can add your own images to the remote and everything. but now i just use the original remotes for everything.

[@CrashCarson14]

Man I hated hearing about the harmony news. I really enjoy my Harmony and Would hate having to open my phone just to change the volume. You can really do everything. I didn’t want the hub, for lag reasons and the IR version is soooo good. Also I have a second room, and being able to control everything with the harmony (again no hub) is pretty nice. Don’t forget special buttons the Harmony can do that aren’t even on the stock remote.

[@cubah1]

I have a Sofa remote and it’s cool for the fire stick, but sucks for IR. It’s IR reach. Is bad I have to get up and stretch my hand to get the remote to work. That isn’t how a remote should be so I am not too happy with it. But for controlling Amazon it’s awesome it works great.

[@musicmoviestech]

Have you looked into or had any experience with the RTi t4x remote?

[@Youthman]

I am not familiar with that.

[@Youthman]

I’m assuming when their website says find a dealer, it requires a CI to program it. Is that correct?

[@musicmoviestech]

@@Youthman most likely. I have a friend that does home theater installs and he is configuring it for me. I will need to make changes once the new AVENTAGE a6a arrives, so I’ll see if I can do that on my own.

[@Youthman]

Yeah unfortunately that’s the reason I don’t care for Control4, Crestron or Savant. Each one requires a CI to program them. I want full control

[@pgjscottie]

Has anyone received the YIO Remote Two yet i reserved one but haven’t heard anymore

[@Youthman]

I checked with Martin a few weeks ago. I don’t think they have started shipping yet. But I believe it’s supposed to be anytime.

[@pgjscottie]

@@Youthman After watching your video about the remote i seemed to be the only real contender as a replacement for the Harmony

[@tracyherbert2978]

Can you review the Cerwin Vega SL-15?

[@Youthman]

Thank you for the suggestion Tracy. Unfortunately I do not have any plans to review Cerwin Vega speakers

[@Renan_Cas]

hey YOUTHMAN! your review got me thinking what about a full-fledged AI kind of (aleksa) devise that is purely voice sound recognition type thing..... and do away with remotes all together? would that make your whole house an 'AI HOUSE'?

[@kevonmanuel]

I'm still keeping hope that Sound United will buy out Harmony from Logitech.

[@WalkersLawn]

They own just about everything else audio and that would be a good fit for them and us, imo.

[@Youthman]

That honestly isn’t a bad idea. I was curious to see if a company would try to purchase a Logitech but I would’ve thought they would’ve announced that

[@MegaFred8888]

My Elite is still working fine

[@turbo5483]

I don’t see anything for components inside a cabinet, like Logitech blasters

[@ziqfriq]

I will definitely try to make the live stream tomorrow. My Harmony One is showing signs of button fatigue. It's tempting to pull the trigger on the Kickstarter, but I think I'll wait until then. To me, my main concern is that these guys seem really into home automation/smart home, with home theater as an afterthought. I'm interested in potential support for Roon and Kodi but that's not a done deal yet. So far it looks like the only HT functionality working out of the box (when it comes out, hopefully in July) is ability to learn IR commands from original remotes, which wouldn't be bad once done. I'd love to be able to control my Parasound P7 analog preamp bidirectionally via RS232 (perhaps supplying a Raspberry Pi and serial adapter) but it's not clear how interested these guys would be in supporting older equipment (non-BT, etc.) I have some Philips Hue lights, which might be useful to control with the remote, and a Nest thermostat, which wouldn't as far as I can see. I have no plans to go crazy with "Smart Home". I have zero interest in voice commands.

[@johncasey5594]

I have been using the Logitech Harmony 880 forever, not sure exactly, but probably 15 years or so. Yes, I hate change. I refused to pay $400 for a newer Harmony. As my 880s wore down, I would just buy a gently used one off eBay, plug in, load with all my settings, done. Now the opportunity I see is the Elite/Ultimates are on eBay for a steal as people are dropping them due to the news. The Logitech Harmony software still works, so imma just snap them up and go for the next 10-15 years. The biggest issue with newer remotes is delay, which urks me... so I will stay will Logitech regardless.

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

Very interested in new remotes. Consider iPad mini options as well. Hours long content for a remote isn’t what I’d want to watch if you wouldn’t mind a cliff notes version

[@DarinBuss]

Hello, I definitely need a new remote I’m just hoping that the price is not out of reach

[@19mati67]

369 euros. To me it is to expensive. Specially if I need three.

[@kevinlahey8087]

Although this unit sounds like a game changer(however in my experience they all sound great at the beginning) their price of $500+ CDN for what a Harmony did is way out of my league! IMO.....For this to be purchased by anyone, this would have to be much better than Harmony in all ways to get any traction !

[@wendellwendellb339]

Hey Michael, how are you? I just watched your video, as well as another one about this remote. From what I take, this remote will not only control devices in anyone’s home theater, but, will be able to control other devices in different rooms. Is that right? The other video gave a price range between $300 to $400. It sounds like a real good replacement for Logitech.

[@Youthman]

Hi Wendell. I’m doing great thanks. Yes during their live stream, they demonstrated how you can use it to control things like Home Assistant which can operate anything in your home.

[@wendellwendellb339]

Have you reviewed the Neeo Control4 remote, or you already have and I missed it? It looked like another good replacement for Logitech?

[@Youthman]

My understanding is you still need to have a CI programmer and the Neeo is limited on whether you can control. I personally need full access

[@wendellwendellb339]

Thanks Michael, good to know. I will stick with your review on the YIO Remote 2! Oh, one more thing, what about the Savant remote? Just asking, still gonna go with your initial review on the YIO!

[@Noble3781]

My issue with the Yio is there are not enough physical buttons compared to my elite, I have remapped a lot of my elite buttons, with this with the lack of buttons that shall not be possible, and I do not want to be scrolling through a touchscreen to use a button, if they build this remote with more buttons, I shall be happy 😊

[@Youthman]

Nothing wrong with keeping your elite

[@Noble3781]

@@Youthman very true I shall have to, it is just frustrating no one can make a truly universal remote to replace it, all we need is some more buttons and we are good to go 😊 But no one can make a truly good universal remote other than Logitech it seems.

[@Youthman]

“Truly good” is subjective. I myself would prefer not to have the clutter of a ton of buttons.

[@Noble3781]

@@Youthman you are correct as someone who needs to control a lot of devices, I care more about having practicality rather than atheistic or keeping a remote looking clean, I have a lot of devices and being able to map buttons is very important, as that is what separates it from a standard remote for me, but to each of there own, we all have different setups and needs, but thanks for the informative video, if a truly replacement universal remote comes out keep us posted 👍 keep up the good work, it is just a darn shame no one can make a proper replacement remote.

[@Youthman]

I have only a few devices (Marantz AV7706, JVC NX7, Nvidia Shield and Pioneer UDP-LX500). My needs are simple

[@rayc250]

I have the same remote and it sucks! Very inconsistent, when turning off equipment it turns everything off…then turns the tv back on. Lags for sure. Overall I prefer the older models.

[@versus023]

Not Cheap. About 550$ CAD. Dont know how much harmony used to go for. But im planning on buying a used Harmony

[@Youthman]

$400-$500 USD on EBay for new Harmony Elite with Hub

[@Youthman]

Used would be less

[@versus023]

@@Youthman thanks a lot for your answer!

[@Pmeyer1226]

So two years on, are you using a SofaBatan? And the Yio is still on the sideline.

[@Youthman]

Definitely not using the Sofabaton X1. It definitely is nowhere close to the Harmony Elite. I have reached out to YIO regarding a review unit but have not heard back from them. Feel free to reach out to them if you would like to see me review it.

[@Pmeyer1226]

@@Youthman I have been pleasantly surprised to find that Logitech has a profile for my new Marantz AVR. There is no user programmable remote on the horizon as far as I can see that worth waiting for, and the next level systems (control4 and savant) are gear toward whole home automation (overkill for my needs) not to mention eye wateringly expensive.

[@Youthman]

@Pmeyer1226 yes I’m still looking for the user programmable options for my audience. Savant, AVA, Crestron and Control4 are geared towards the Custom Integrator market and like you said, super expensive.

[@lee_michae1]

I backed the Kickstarter last week, now just got to wait until July for it to ship!

[@s5blitzer]

Love my Harmony Elite since it was first introduced and works great in my family room home theater. My Harmony Smart Control in my master room still drives my legacy 80" 1080p + Denon AVR, VERY SLOW response and the charging cradle is not working. Using a direct USB charging cable to limp alone. Was also an owner of the Harmony 890 from 2008. The YIO remote sounds promising as I love any touchscreen till someone release a remote that can read my thoughts.

[@porter5976]

No, no, no! It's gotta have discrete buttons like the Harmony One has or it's a no go for me. It doesn't matter what else it has. The buttons are like the Harmony 881 which made it very hard to know which button I was pressing. Spread the buttons out and raise them. That's a deal breaker, if I had a deal.

[@paulmardis1512]

If the YIO remote has a hub or controller that is IP enabled that would be great. Also if you are able to DIY program it for HT as well as Home Automation. I currently use Samsung Tablet with my C4 App on it. I can control everything in my HT as well as Home automation devices. I like the fact that will be supporting Home Assistant and other open source home automation programs. What I see is this is a cloud based unit. I wish it had a local IP controller so you have more control of devices in your home and not have to rely on the internet. Good Job YM for sharing. PM

[@Youthman]

Great question to ask in the chat of the live stream.

[@Cameron-ki1qx]

This looks really cool and I can definitely see myself getting one.. but I've been burned crowdfunding and I can't shell out over 400 dollars for something that might never finish production.

[@ford1546]

what I do not like about Harmony remote controls is that they use a lot of power compared to regular remote controls. they wear faster because they do not use black plastic but painted plastic. They use a lot of battery and you see wear and tear too fast. I have 2 types of Harmony.

[@Youthman]

I agree. I only get a few days and have to recharge my Harmony

[@Youthman]

The YIO has a deep sleep feature that helps preserve battery life

[@ford1546]

@@Youthman yes I know. a keyboard or computer mouse uses MUCH less battery and can be left untouched for several weeks without running out of batteries. you can not with Harmony. What I like about harmony is that you can program it from a database to make almost anything work with it. For used electronics buyers, you do not always get a remote control.

[@christopher1800]

All these universal remote projects are fairly young (kickstarter) projects. From experience, these are highly uncertain. Some die, others get sold out. Only a few actually make it. I’m cynical about the entire concept. So I’ll stick with my Harmony Elite for as long as possible. By the time it stops working, hopefully one of these projects has actually materialized into something decent.

[@Youthman]

You are correct, harmony had monopolized the remote market. Now that they have closed up shop, brands see an opportunity to enter the market.

[@adamg7270]

Love/hate relationship for me with my Harmony remote. It's 90% good, but the engineer who decided a rounded bottom contour makes sense was completely clueless. Lay it on your recliner armrest and try to press a button one-handed. I almost can't wait until mine dies and I have to chuck it.

[@jayc3715]

That's my biggest beef too. I've been a user since the original and they nailed it perfectly with the Harmony One design, best remote ever made, then it was all down hill from there.

[@pierrecastanets1974]

Looks very nice but my harmony is currently free and works.

[@Youthman]

Absolutely keep it till it blows up. 👍

[@johnathanjackson6258]

Has anyone actually had a chance to use the Remote Two?

[@Youthman]

I have not. I do not believe they have shipped any review units or products to consumers.

[@johnathanjackson6258]

@@Youthman do you think this product is DOA?

[@Youthman]

No, just spoke with YIO. They are still moving forward. Parts shortages have slowed their progress.

[@johnathanjackson6258]

@@Youthman Thanks for the info. I actually just watched your latest video where this was mentioned. I have mighty high hopes for this thing. The closest thing of interest is the Halo Touch but I'm not ready to commit to Control4.

[@Youthman]

Yeah I want to be able to program my own macros and add / delete devices. So Control4, Savant and Crestron are not for me

[@OneWhoWas]

With all the streamers coming with basic but functional remotes and the minimalistic entertainment systems... Gone are the days of the elaborate entertainment systems and this type of gadgetry. Many of the local electronics retailers near me have literally closed their entertainment rooms where home theaters usually resided, in favor of other products that sell better. I'd have to see a huge adoption of this product before of ever consider purchasing. I'm not saying it can't be done, but if a brand such as Harmony decided to run away from the space... there's probably a reason.

[@Youthman]

Time will tell. Home Theaters seem to be in the rise.

[@richardmiddleton5984]

Logitech got away from it because it only accounted for a small percentage of their income.

[@martinadamski945]

A remote that controls my universe - Sending Adam Sandler this video!! :)

[@g4meboy13]

Gonna have to subscribe I seem to be falling on a niche of TV and Home Theater niche because most of my friends are content with watching Netflix on a laptop I feel like i much prefer movies on a TV and sound system and still value the quality physical media brings to the table.

[@rickmanzone3581]

People are really becoming lazier an lazier, stop feeding the monster, just use the products remote.

[@Youthman]

For me it’s not about being lazy. The main reason is so my family can know how to use the system. One button to turn everything on, set inputs etc, one button to power everything down. My wife would never be able to figure it out otherwise.

[@Youthman]

If you like having 6 remotes, nothing wrong with that.

[@oliverpolden]

That's fine if you have one or two remotes, but when you have three devices that need to turn on and switch to the correct inputs you really need a smart remote. Not to mention that it also reduces clutter and means anyone in your household can use it. Oh and you don't have to point the remote at the device either so your componets can all be hidden away.

[@scottwrezenski2356]

Can't wait for this. Look awesome

[@JRobert111111]

I checked out the YIO page and I just can't stand how everything is now labeled as "smart". Smart speakers, smart home, smart this and that. I guess human beings aren't so "smart" any longer. The best remote I've ever seen is the Universal Remote RF-10 which hasn't been made for quite a few years now; but I've stockpiled them when I can find them. So many functions and keys that it runs my whole system, including the setup menus of all components and of course, my lights. Yes, it's all manual setup, but when it's done it is so easy to operate by feel even in the dark. No thank you to all this "simplified" and "limited functionality" stuff that you're still pulling out remotes for setup purposes. I've never seen anything equal the RF-10 remote. And no thank you to all of this "smart" crap that everybody is calling everything under the sun and moon these days; it's all quite a bit overplayed in my book any more.

[@Youthman]

It’s not for everyone. I had the URC MX-890 and did not like it at all due to the clunky programming interface and the need to manually add each and every button for each remote. I’ll take a smart remote anyway. 👍

[@JRobert111111]

@@Youthman The biggest problem I have is with so much of many remote's functionality is done via a display screen. Give yourself more time, and you'll find that the eyes don't want to be focused out on the TV (I have an 85" Sony), and then try to focus on a little screen on the remote (as is the case with the URC MX-890 as well). I don't mind teaching each button individually on the RF-10 remote, because when you're done it is wonderful to use in the dark by touch/feel only. And there is no worry about future support of the product as the only restriction is if the remote is still working or not, that's it. Best of luck to you with this new remote and I look forward to hearing more about it just to learn more about what is out there. Take care!

[@Youthman]

Yes over the past year my vision is definitely changing especially when looking at a mobile device or something up close

[@garryhammond3117]

Looks good! Can't wait to learn more.

[@Laissez_Faire]

Now this looks pretty promising 👌 Thanks for sharing 👍

[@travismayes23]

Love a video can't wait for the next one May the Lord bless you and be with you God bless you Love you brother

[@Youthman]

Thanks Cruise

[@TRClem.]

Hey Michael! My KZbin account got banned but as I got back on youtube with a new account I remembered you so this is my new account. (I got banned for being too young :()

[@twofacepalmer1212]

Erm... guess this might be a stupid question but.... how does You Tube know how old you are? Is this a prerequisite question that's answered if you are going to be a content provider? Doesn't make sense. I'm not a KZbin content provider soooo... just wondering.

[@TRClem.]

@@twofacepalmer1212 I made me google acount when I was like 9 being honest put my real age and also used that account for my yt channel

[@Youthman]

It’s been along time since I created my account but I’m guessing they ask for your date of birth when you register

[@TRClem.]

@@Youthman yup correct

[@Youthman]

I love this community!

[@grd90u]

Harmony was overpriced and didn’t last. Buttons would always begin to wear out after the first year of use. The YIO looks nice but, not $427 nice. To purchase an un proven product at that price seems very risky. I wish URC would embrace prosumers more. I still have my MX-810 with over 10 years of use on it and it still works perfectly. However, not having Bluetooth connectivity is making the remote really start to show its age. The SofaBaton U1 is still my go to remote and, at $50, it’s hard to beat

[@Youthman]

To each his own. I was not a fan of my previous URC MRX-890

[@chriscarey1879]

Exciting times ahead. I'll stop looking for overly priced 2nd hand Harmony Elite remotes on Ebay now😄

[@Youthman]

It’s crazy how much demand there is for a discontinued product. Main reason so far is because there has been nothing to replace it

[@stoplookingatthisyougleepy]

Pov: You mistyped "KZbin"

[@Termi_ch]

Die beste die es gab habe eine als reserve bestellt 😬😬😬😬

[@arcaderacer586]

Logitech is getting out of the remote business because tv’s now are so advanced and have all the apps built in and the tv remote also controls soundbars and subs. The need for a advanced universal remote is becoming lesser and lesser by the day. I have been a harmony remote user for 10 years and to be honest I can control my tv,soundbar from my nvidia shield remote. I assume other users are heading towards that direction as well. Dvd players are fizzling down.

[@Youthman]

Just depends on what you need it to do. I have Activities that cannot be replicated with an Nvidia shield remote.

[@arcaderacer586]

@@Youthman I agree and I also have a few more activities that I like my harmony for… but my point is the need is slowly dwindling for these advanced remotes as more technology is packed into newer devices. These devices are becoming more of a 1 stop shop for people… thats why logitech is getting out. They do not see future growth for the product.

[@mkleiman47]

It is so crazy expensive.......

[@TheoneDragon51]

Sofabaton *edit.* I am very interested in this remote.

[@Youthman]

Sorry to hear that. Many companies are still trying to recover from The pandemic and customer support is taking a toll

[@TheoneDragon51]

@@Youthman I deleted what I originally posted. Lora, got back to me and went out of her way to make my situation with the poor IR strength of my remote right. I just wanted to let you know.

[@Youthman]

That’s great to hear. 👍

[@wotter814]

The dudes name is Marton and not Marlon, kind of interesting you are so excited about the product you can't even pronounce the name of the maker.

[@Youthman]

My bad, I realize you may not make mistakes but I make them quite frequently. Kind of interesting you are so excited to call me out on mispronouncing Marton’s name that you called him the maker when the product hasn’t been made yet.

[@JustaPilot1]

Yet again another Harmony "replacement" with no keypad for channel surfing. Sooooo not a replacement for Harmony.

[@odeooo16]

I have the same shirt!

[@project.jericho]

You know what I'm tired of hearing? "It's definitely not perfect" Every damned product review on KZbin.

[@Youthman]

Are you aware of a perfect product?

[@project.jericho]

@@Youthman It's a throw away line which conveys no meaningful information, employed solely as a point of equivocation by a creator to attempting to stress whatever degree of impartiality with which they want their product showcase to be viewed. Your question implies the absurdity of the phrase... OF COURSE it's imperfect. EVERYTHING IS. Stating such an painfully obvious point is... Rhetorically lazy.

[@tonyhobbs8290]

wow £300, my harmony didn't cost that, the problem i see here as i've seen with many other new remotes is that even if they make it and start shipping after about a year the company sells out or just disappear and your left with a £300 brick sat in the draw, i will admit i have backed sofabaton but then it was less than half the price of the yio, i think for me i would need to see if it becomes established before i commit to an unknown.

[@Youthman]

Nothing wrong with waiting to see how it pans out

[@JasonHendry22]

title is cick baity becaus eyou dont actually review the yio

[@Youthman]

Interesting munchy that you consider it click bait when neither the title nor description mentions anything about it being a review. If you look over the 500+ videos on my title, review videos actually have the word "Review" in the title and the description and sometimes even in the thumbnail. How can I review the YIO Remote 2 when they haven't begun to send them out to reviewers yet?

[@Psyphonyx_Life]

Yyeeeeooowwww... =) Looks cool !

[@cyrillusventus1]

harmony is shit quality my 950 who is elite was dead after just the end of warranty never LOGITECH again for that anyway they stopped to sell this crap remote since 2020, but this product is really expensive .... it s like iphone here ... i need to sell a part of my body XD i want a product maximum 150 dollars not this price.

[@Youthman]

So what are you going to replace it with?