SC v. Nathaniel Rowland Trial Day 2 - Direct Exam of Ander Lee - Found Victim's Body

LIVE TRIAL: SC v. Nathaniel Rowland Trial - Alleged Murder Of Samantha Josephson
Prosecution Witnesses:
Direct Exam of Ander Lee - Found Victim's Body
Cross Exam of Ander Lee - Found Victim's Body
Direct Exam of Hailey Morris, Jr. - SC Dept Of Natural Resources
Direct Exam of Thomas Huckaby - Investigation Ofc
Nathaniel David Rowland, 27, stands trial for allegedly murdering Samantha Josephson, 21. Court is held in Richland County, South Carolina. You can watch in the player above.
Josephson, a student at the University of South Carolina, got into a vehicle that she believed was her Uber in the early morning of March 29, 2019, according to police. She was found dead in Clarendon County the next day, stabbed more than 30 times.
Rowland was pulled over in his Chevy Impala, and he ran, officials have said. Josephson’s phone and blood were in the car, investigators said. There were also cleaning supplies, with the child locks engaged, according to authorities.
“I can not fathom how someone could randomly select a person, a beautiful girl and steal her life away,” Samantha’s mother Marci Josephson said in a statement to the court in 2019, according to Live 5 News. “His actions were senseless, vile and unacceptable. It sickens us to think that his face was the last thing that my baby girl saw on this earth.”
Samantha’s parents started the #WhatsMyName campaign and is working to pass “Sami’s Law” in South Carolina, which would require ride-share drivers to be clearly identified before passengers enter the vehicle.
Rowland’s family has insisted on his innocence. He was passed out at a house party the night Josephson was abducted, his cousin Trey Elmore told South Carolina newspaper The State in an April 2019 report.
Rowland’s father Henry Rowland shared the second-hand story with WACH around the same time. In this account, Nathaniel Rowland woke up to find his keys were gone, but discovered his vehicle outside. The keys-and blood-were inside. His father said that if this story were true, then it was a mistake not to call 911. It was also a mistake to run during the traffic stop.
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[@AuntieKim]

I don’t like witnesses having to pinpoint on a map where they live in front of family members of the one that is up for murder.

[@leomama]

I’ll never understand how a “human” can take another’s life ... especially now that I’m a mother. That life that you felt you had the right to take meant everything to their families, etc. .. it’s just so sad.

[@leomama]

@Tricia R. touché. I definitely agree. Other than that, I can’t even fathom.

[@kjh6903]

People like him have no feelings and no humanity .

[@nonmihiseddeo4181]

He also took himself away from his parents, and his mom can't wrap her mind around the fact that the little boy she reared could do such a thing as an adult. She and his father are his victims, too. Life is forever changed for them.

[@BurroGirl]

Great job Law & Crime on the video and audio!

[@darkwillow57]

I don't know that law and crime actually sets up the audio and video. Maybe but I thought they just relied on whatever the court has set up. Some of the trials I've seen have awful coverage. You can't hear the audio and the video looks like it was recorded with a flip phone. The media is great for this trial it feels like you're right there in the courtroom.

[@northerngirl1637]

I'm always amazed at how patient most witnesses are with so many pointless questions from lawyers.

[@catherinewinkeler8587]

This question was asked of someone in the medical profession. Q: how did u know she was dead? A: her head was in a jar. Lmfao

[@barneyronnie]

Do we have a choice unless we choose to be in contempt of court?

[@sgc3594]

@@catherinewinkeler8587 wow what case trial was this???

[@cdelane3335]

It's a blessing she was found so quick didn't lay out in the woods for months. Good thing people knew not to get close and mess with the surroundings.

[@BRAZY0o0x3]

This is just surreal. I think back in the day how many times I jumped in an Uber - alone - after a night out 😫😣

[@lucyb1076]

The difference is he wasn’t an Uber driver

[@BRAZY0o0x3]

@@lucyb1076 yea well she thought he was... my point being it could have been anyone

[@HopefulInterventions]

@@BRAZY0o0x3 that’s right!

[@themercy138]

When I first saw this case it shook me, because I do not particularly pay attention to the make of my uber rides. No more!!!

[@babesmagee1]

Because of this case Uber and Lyft made changes. Their cars have to have easily seen identifiers in more than one place. I occasionally use this service and I keep that name and vehicle information up the whole time.

[@tinazamora6409]

It’s so terrifying how killers can just dump their victims anywhere , discarding them like trash for an innocent person to discover . I can’t imagine the horror of that sight ... That would not be something a normal person could ever forget !! I pray that Samantha’s killer is prosecuted accordingly... if not here , Then when he faces his maker on the FINAL JUDGEMENT DAY 😢😢 This poor girl ... it hurts my heart the fear she must have had facing demons in her final minutes of life 😢😢😢 RIP Sweet Angel 🕯 🕯 🕊 🕊

[@whitetiger5181]

Unfortunately the only justice would be for this guy to get the same treatment but worse. But this country is toooooo soft on killers. Thats why we are breeding them at an increasingly abnormal rate these days. Its a shame justice isnt swift and quick. When you punish your child u dont wait 2 yrs before u spank him. You do it usually immediately. As soon as hes convicted he needs to die. I have a huge heart but when it comes to innocent people being killed i hae no empathy for the killer

[@whitetiger5181]

Need to bring back public executions .

[@blubabyblu]

I like how when death penalties were brought back (1979?), the man was given a choice to be executed or to die from a 5-man firing squad. Harsh? Inhuman? Maybe. To me, "simple" murder in itself is inhumane. Adding 100+ stab wounds should not afford the killer anything less than harsh and inhumane.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

Monsters really do exist.

[@NicoleKe]

They don’t. Damaged humans do.

[@33479Leigh]

@@NicoleKe sure is a lot of damaged humans who choose not to kill.

[@lisawarr]

@@NicoleKe damaged or just plain evil?

[@MyKakasa]

He will soon start wearing glasses. Lol

[@zhamasworld3084]

😂

[@OG-genX_]

Him writing ✍down bs like he's somebody.

[@kaylawilliams7380]

I was thinking the same thing. Probably scribble scrabble because he obviously isn’t smart.

[@marjamilton7797]

I assume it's so he can look like he is doing something, instead of avoiding looking up and listening to the horror he caused. Looking down to scribble looks better than looking down in pure shame and avoidance.

[@ep3865]

I said the samething

[@lisawarr]

In the Ahmaud Arbery trial Roddy Bryan never stopped writing on a legal pad - even though his own lawyer told us a million times he was uneducated! Probably giving himself tips on how to look even more sorry for himself - doesn’t work.

[@SweetPea112]

According to the defense attorney if you don't like to drink beer in the middle of the day you don't like to have fun. Geez!!!

[@lorisky143]

Imagine finding a body, then to find out someone from your school is responsible, 😬 omg

[@gentleeyes5555]

I wish someone would tell the defendant to cover his nose with the mask.

[@updownstate]

Ew, I know. I'm waiting for him to sneeze and something come flying out.

[@gentleeyes5555]

🤢

[@skibeesmith5952]

his nose appears too large to fit in the mask !

[@gentleeyes5555]

@@skibeesmith5952 Naaaaaaaaa.

[@skibeesmith5952]

@@gentleeyes5555 ...yep, u bet'cha

[@angelowilliams5542]

The fact he know he’s guilty is sick to even sit on trail thinking you would ever get away with it

[@jackiepadgett6912]

They had the witnesses point out their houses on a map in front of an alleged murderer and national tv! Sure they were already nieghbors with the defendant, but why pinpoint their family homes?

[@Iamkiaramonea]

He should’ve let that girl out of his car he didn’t have to kill her

[@tootieramsey9766]

He was out on bail for doing this to another girl already. He didn't kill the first girl just attacked and robbed her. So he was out huntin these women.

[@michelled5102]

@Tootie Ramsey thanks for that...I was trying to figure out why he did it, what was his motive. So, robbery? SMH.

[@nativeamericanfeather9948]

REMEBER HER NAME SAMANTHA JOSEPHSON! Stabbed head to toe multiple times by this monster! Evidence doesn't lie & has a story to tell. May there be Justice for this beautiful soul that was taken so brutally for NO reason! Monsters are amongst us:( this is why good law abiding citizens needs to conceal & carry! Protect yourself..be a victim or a survivor ♡ prayers to her family!

[@geoffpoole483]

When going out, keep in contact with each other. Travel home together. It looks like she got separated from her friends on that fateful night.

[@nativeamericanfeather9948]

@@amandasummers7881 so very true!! The evil out there arent going to come to use without a weapon..so why should we be unarmed? Us women need to start fighting back and defending ourselves ♡ we have the right to do so..but aren't. Those that are against guns are hypocrites..they call cops because they have guns to protect them. If criminals use their rights..we should too♡ they attack us because they see us as weak prey. Unfortunately many are:/ Women need to be armed and ready to defend themselves and their loved ones. To defend our right to live♡

[@33479Leigh]

“ We are literally hunted “- Lebron james

[@bthe1doright462]

This doomed foul souled man is pathetic - with his fancy shirts and ties. Putting all these hard working good people through it in court to arrive at the obvious place of his permanent incarceration. It's always the worst criminals that don't want death and try until the last second to avoid responsibility. Great Job by all involved in the court process. Glad this man is not longer walking talking and driving around our communities.

[@rbso6]

In NYC you CANNOT drive for Uber or Lyft or the like if you do not have a TLC (Taxi Livery and Car) license plate. This regulation makes it easy for riders to identify the license plate number when riding in these car services. This process makes it less likely a rider will enter a car by mistake. I think that every state should have this rule. Just in case some readers will assume that I am blaming Samantha....I am starting that I am NOT! THIS WAS UNFORTUNATE!!!!!

[@ye23.]

Now that I think about it there was a few times I caught an uber in nyc that was actually a cab the green ones

[@rbso6]

@@ye23. Yes, even non-green can drivers must have a TLC license.

[@ye23.]

@@rbso6 regardless I always read the license plate. Always good to make sure the drivers face matches up to the profile pic too

[@AmbiAmz_]

Here In sc all you need is a car a license and insurance smh

[@cherridytucker9739]

Gotta be pretty hard to be A lawyer trying to "Defend" Someone you KNOW is Guilty...Does anyone know WHY he took this to Trial? What's his defense?

[@Stripedsocks695]

His defense is “I’m narcissistic “ Waste of money on a defense attorney. It was an insult to take this to trial

[@circusofsix]

he wanted his face on tv. he believes himself to be very important.

[@themercy138]

He said he was innocent. His arrogance can be seen in the way he handles himself in his seat.

[@babesmagee1]

He probably just wanted as much time out of a cell as possible; selfish a**hole. Put her family and witnesses through more trauma.

[@lisawarr]

I think his defence is that thinks he’s cleverer than the average sadistic murderer… I mean according to the defence he’s an absolutely wonderful human being 🤔

[@rbso6]

In addition, I think Rowland was going to be a serial killer in the making. But, he got caught on his first hunt!!! I have so much questions!! How did he know to seek Samantha out??!!! We will never know because he will continue to maintain his "innocence." I bet if you search the surveillance cameras 90 days before 3/1919 he may have been surveying the area in that car figuring out how to get his first kill. He's such a narcissist to have the family and loved ones go through this trial.

[@jodifocht5680]

How do we know this was his first ?

[@AuntieKim]

It would be nice if he wore his mask correctly. If you don’t cover the nose as well it’s no point in wearing anything. Even if you are a mouth breather, cover your nose AND mouth or your mask won’t do anything to protect you.

[@catherinewinkeler8587]

That shows how cocky he is.

[@franks.2544]

She wasn't stabbed over "30 times". She was stabbed over 100 times!

[@1EVILZ06]

Defense had a great opening.I’ll give them that. Zero DNA. Is that enough to raise doubts? We’ll see. It’s gonna be almost impossible to get around her blood in his vehicle. The one explanation for that is,he wasn’t the one driving his car. We’ve all let someone borrow our car. So that’s the only plausible explanation. We’ll se how the defense navigates this issue.

[@jackiemoore791]

He said it was stolen but how did he have it when they arrested him ...he never said anyone borrowed it

[@1EVILZ06]

@@jackiemoore791 Saw some trial footage from today. The defense is playing the he let someone borrow the car…. I knew it.

[@1EVILZ06]

@Tricia R. Because they don’t want to be burned at the stake for murder. 😂

[@HopefulInterventions]

@@1EVILZ06 we need to use common sense! It’s obvious nobody borrowed or stole his car! He told his parents someone stole his car!!

[@jenniferwaddell552]

Ok. Take the car his car out of it… How is Defense gonna explain him trying to w/ drawl money from her account & trying or selling her cell phone??? They have him on Video of him doin both & trying account w/ drawls 9 times. What opening statement said.

[@pachiecakes8467]

It’s astonishing to me that some ppl think he’s truly innocent 😮😢

[@amywilkins543]

Like his mother!

[@terrymontgomery6814]

His family lived within a couple miles…whoa!

[@toasted_.coconut]

Testimony starts at 13:35

[@justachiklet1743]

THANK YOU

[@cheerlynstovall5506]

The Human Heart For Some Is So Frightening.

[@johnlamphier3515]

"The heart is deceitful and desperately wicked, who can know it ?""

[@barneyronnie]

The defendant has a heart of darkness; he stared into the abyss, but it was staring back at him ...

[@nathashapaul5500]

So sorry for this young lady

[@jackiemoore791]

If his car was stolen how the heck did he have it back when they arrested him lol and he never reported it stolen ...weak weak excuse

[@NicoleKe]

Listen. The car was stolen. He figured he would give the thieves an opportunity to bring the car back before he “got the law”involved. They returned the car with blood in it. He thought that was so rude of them but hey, at least they brought it back. Annnnd, that’s why he was in the car when he was arrested. 🤣😹😹😹

[@skibeesmith5952]

@@NicoleKe lol

[@northerngirl1637]

He's an idiot

[@darkwillow57]

I'd go with the Jodi Arias defense of two masked gunmen kidnapping him and the girl in his car. Then killing her but letting him and his car go.

[@valerieraymond6535]

@@darkwillow57 lol

[@oliviashuii364]

Yea how many times did you ask did you touch the body? Ever come across this before. OMG.

[@staystrong8966]

I am Canadian and I'm flat out giggling at these accents LOL

[@60toodles]

I've heard some canadian accents. lol

[@vickery8205]

A Canadian laughing at an accent? What’s that aboot? 😂

[@desiree1433]

Is it normal for defense to take notes while doing cross? Did I just see him remove headphones too?

[@truethat774]

It looks like his attorney gave him a talking to about looking like he was engaged in his own defense by pretending to take notes. He didn’t yesterday. I feel like slapping him upside the head every time they show his face.

[@snailbellonthetrail982]

The monster defendant didn't have to touch Samantha to kill her. My gezzz he stabbed her to death,the knife did the work for him!!! Smh

[@BurroGirl]

Yes but what doesn't make sense is she fought and didn't even have his DNA under her fingernails.

[@snailbellonthetrail982]

@@BurroGirl he had bleach too

[@BurroGirl]

@@snailbellonthetrail982 true. I hope someone explains sometime in this trial how his DNA wasn't anywhere. Makes no sense, but I'm no expert of course.

[@blackpanther3302]

@@snailbellonthetrail982 did he bleach the body also?

[@gentleeyes5555]

@@BurroGirl I wonder if he had a buddy in the car with him. Since the killing, however, happened in his car, and he didn’t “fess” up about anyone else, he should be held responsible. Perhaps he is the “mastermind” behind the murder.

[@nativeamericanfeather9948]

Audio starts @7:23

[@anjilowe4273]

Omg! Defence questioning Bubba is just regurgitating what the prosecutor said/asked

[@jodydarby]

Guilty. Period.

[@PatriciaGarcia-ip6ge]

The defense attorney is lousy. Was he in the courtroom as the witness was questioned. This has to be a public defender by his stupid questions.

[@HopefulInterventions]

Yes 🙌 the other defend lawyers were the same thing!

[@BurroGirl]

I wish the defendant would put his mask over his nose.

[@Theindigolauren]

The man who discovered Samantha’s body went to HS with the killer? Thats insane.

[@MickiD255]

I believe he has murdered before, he needs to put that mask up over his noise like everyone else. He is Guilty Guilty Guilty.

[@user-xl4pb5wo1g]

Why the Judge rushing the witnesses, this courtroom is starting to feel like the Roberson case , unorganised

[@davidgaugamela9801]

The two police officers hovering behind the defendant is terrible optics; unfair to the defense. It is a statement to the jury that he may lash out at any moment.

[@vols_season]

He did lash out …. on a 21 yr old woman!!

[@lindasoolou3246]

Where is ALL OF HER BLOOD?

[@SuperTweezy5]

Mostly in the car.

[@danniieem2840]

Why is this monster taking notes for ?

[@blackpanther3302]

I was wondering the same about Derek chauvin

[@harolddenton6031]

He is working on details of his plea bargin after he tats out the other accomplices who's dna that forensic investigators were able to collect out of his chevy impala.

[@NicoleKe]

I’ll bet he isn’t taking notes at all. He’s just doodling to keep busy. It’s a way to get them not to react to testimony.

[@skibeesmith5952]

someone said he's writing his will- har har

[@barneyronnie]

He's playing make - believe that he has some intelligence.

[@rullmourn1142]

This won't show a thumbnail in my FB group.

[@leahfromcrimia8424]

I just love Bubba. My fav witness.

[@circusofsix]

the witnesses pull down their masks so that they can all spit directly on the microphone. one by one. neat. 😷

[@jpatrick3081]

Hate crime

[@whitetiger5181]

What did they say about state lottery ???

[@skibeesmith5952]

good luck

[@ryanwalsh1480]

36:09 says it's kids in there. Like how old are these kids. Obviously driving age. Obviously possibly 18+ Kids drinking and smoking. And driving. They sound like young adults to me. Possibly little more older than that right?what kind of vehicles y'all go driving around down there in these neck of the woods? Is it usually just cars and minivans? What kind of vehicles do you mostly see these "kids" driving. You live so close near there.

[@harolddenton6031]

The judge needs hearing aids.

[@terrymontgomery6814]

These Southerners are so slow talking!

[@harolddenton6031]

But I can tell you the southerners wouldn't be slow pulling a trigger on their hunting rifles.

[@ashleygbc4lyfe304]

@@harolddenton6031 facts I live in SC not far from where this all happened.

[@peaceandlovegreene]

That’s just how we talk here in the south. Nothing wrong with that. Just speed up the video. 😆

[@NicoleKe]

I didn’t even notice.

[@CharlieDexter99]

These northerners are so condescending and judgmental.

[@sassyitalian3157]

I still think this stinks of a targeted h8te crime!!!

[@doublej7102]

No dna no case. Free Nate. Rip Samantha. The real killers dna is under her fingertips. It didn’t match nates……🤦🏽‍♂️

[@actionparkmedia6484]

I agree bro. Odd that none of his DNA was present. Makes no sense.

[@gabrielapetunia1871]

He was geared up for it, took a shower, and got rid of the clothing.

[@Sara-fu1hb]

He's a cold bloodied murderer Hope his enjoying his day in court... His environment is about to change.

[@BRAZY0o0x3]

@O Cimino lots of explanations for no DNA on her, but her blood in his car? Not so much. Dude is so guilty

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

@@amandasummers7881 absolutely correct 🙏