Three Professional Cannon Rushes - StarCraft 2

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3 жыл бұрын

Three very different cannon rushes with different outcomes! Some delicious Protoss cheese
- ESL Starcraft 2 2020: Probe vs. Rogue - / esl_sc2
- AlphaX King of Battles: Neeb vs Mana (Game 2) - www.twitch.tv/videos/75286883...
- AlphaX Kings of Battles: Neeb vs. Mana (Game 3) - www.twitch.tv/videos/75286883...
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@wtfisditvoorbullshit
@wtfisditvoorbullshit 3 жыл бұрын
That last game went very quickly from 'how does Mana ever win this?!' to 'how does Neeb ever win this?!' Like a fight scene in a movie where Need shows all his Martial Arts moves in a very flashy way, Mana just walks up to him and kicks 'm in the nuts
@thovinh5386
@thovinh5386 3 жыл бұрын
Mana killed like 20ish probes with one void ray. That alone already balanced out the damage I suppose.
@Zhangmengxing3236
@Zhangmengxing3236 3 жыл бұрын
Neeb got kicked so hard he became Need.
@alexcooke2984
@alexcooke2984 3 жыл бұрын
The kick in the nuts was when mana recalled all his probes.
@NAAjine
@NAAjine Жыл бұрын
That was WILD!!
@graddeos
@graddeos 21 күн бұрын
Well the last game was Neeb being completely unfocused. He should have realized that what he saw in Mana's base wasnt enough for the current economy. He completely misjudged the existing infustracture. If he was focused he would realize that there has to be smthng proxied and be a bit more prepared.
@TheAmazingCowpig
@TheAmazingCowpig 3 жыл бұрын
We were promised cannon rushes, and we got two of the best cannon-rush-into-thrown-game ever, wew.
@zygo0
@zygo0 3 жыл бұрын
That first match of immortals vs queens was like watching two heavyweight wrestlers trying to beat the other down with pool noodles
@ForTheWhalez
@ForTheWhalez 3 жыл бұрын
Neeb with the most beautiful throw I have ever seen
@DaCooGa
@DaCooGa 3 жыл бұрын
Not saying you're wrong, but what do you think he should have done?
@damienpoblete
@damienpoblete 3 жыл бұрын
@@DaCooGa Scouting that proxy was the one thing tbh, he didn't wonder how his opponent had just 2 gates + 1 cyber, yet was mining 2 gases full on since quite early - the missing stargate should have been at least thought of (and then scouting to just see where it's located).
@DaCooGa
@DaCooGa 3 жыл бұрын
@@damienpoblete Gotcha, that actually makes perfect sense lol.
@oponomo
@oponomo Жыл бұрын
@@DaCooGa Also send all his mining probes to destroy that stargate and pylons since they were close and he didn't need money from that point really.
@CenJohan
@CenJohan 3 жыл бұрын
How to beat Cannon rush: Sneak out a worker while protoss isn't looking.
@dallarian8687
@dallarian8687 3 жыл бұрын
It's very satisfying. Once my probe was on a way to scout enemy toss early and found out cannon rush. I have left my probe on his side on the map and later have hidden it in his main. I wonder how his face looked like, when he realised he have void rays, cannons and batteries all at once in his main. Cannonrushing a cannonrusher is a great satisfaction ^^ (After defending my main, my void production had rally point across the map, when I had 2 voids and he seen my buildings he just gged)
@snowdrop9810
@snowdrop9810 3 жыл бұрын
@@dallarian8687 It may be satisfying, however its absofucking lutely one of the stupidest reactions. It makes you base trade someone who has a SHIT TON more cannons and batterries (since you wont be able to defend a 1 base all in when you proxy, and most importantly if the toss isnt garbage, they’ll see the probe (theese pros wont let you sneak a probe in their main without it being caught. If you further have a scout out, well you can be damn sure that they’ll check their base for proxies. (As someone who cannon rushes this is extremely frustrating as it shows you how little minimap awareness you have. (Fyi im way better at macroing than microing usually therefore cannon rush isnt actually good for me but its fun))
@dallarian8687
@dallarian8687 3 жыл бұрын
@@snowdrop9810 I wouldn't say so. The situation was already after successfully defending cannon rush. Double stargate was in my main as a standard reaction to cannon rush (view "Never lose to cannon rush again - Harstem hour"). I was on my way for void rays battles, my technology was beating his. He had only 1 cannon and it was on his ramp. Batteries and cannons in his main were just an addition, a small surprise that immediately finished the game in my favour. I waited with creation of "the outpost" to check if he's going to scout that. Timing for buildings was set for my 2nd voidray. Even if he scouted, loss of 1 pylon wouldn't make a difference. I wouldn't call that a base trade. My Void Rays printer was doing brrrrrrr and he had 2 sentries + 3 stalkers when I attacked. I would have 4 voids before his more stalkers would arrive on the battlefield. Yes, getting expansion, perhaps going for +1 would be safer, but I could finish the game in 2 minutes, so I did it.
@snowdrop9810
@snowdrop9810 3 жыл бұрын
@@dallarian8687 ah yea, i thought you did something else. Still, its risky af, as you’ve pointed out the harstem hour never lose to cannon rush guide, printf actually managed to get him eventhough he was prepared and ready with the defense. This is why propably just sticking to defending it is the best idea. İf they dont get a follow up, well its propably gonna be a win anyway (scouting is really nice to have, and propably a single stalker can end most of a contain, and if its a contain you just get a robo and immortal go boom boom and you have a tech advantage thats really big so you prob win.)
@snowdrop9810
@snowdrop9810 3 жыл бұрын
@@dallarian8687 also, another thing id like to mention is, if you managed to sneak a probe and a cannon, just hide 1 cannon then get 2-3 cannons able to shoot the nexus. (Cancel 3rd one if none died/were cancelled.) disrupting their mining just makes your voidray count surpass them by a massive margin and you win.
@calliph
@calliph 3 жыл бұрын
I never get tired watching high level cannon rushes.
@elfoyoutube6039
@elfoyoutube6039 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, I got my hatch down without being blocked
@Vit-Pokorny
@Vit-Pokorny 3 жыл бұрын
Last time i was this early 6 pool was viable strategy
@aznboiaaa
@aznboiaaa 3 жыл бұрын
probe's reaction at 0:11 seconds was funny
@apetrenko_ai
@apetrenko_ai 3 жыл бұрын
The last game was brilliant!
@qazqa133
@qazqa133 3 жыл бұрын
nice decision
@a9302c
@a9302c 3 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does Rushi really sound like Nathanias
@ivarvanlier8561
@ivarvanlier8561 3 жыл бұрын
Probe's face when he put that pylon underneath the overseer was golden
@cjkhis1037
@cjkhis1037 3 жыл бұрын
pls time stamp
@missbelled6700
@missbelled6700 3 жыл бұрын
@@cjkhis1037 ... 0:09 ... ... ... ... bruh
@snowdrop9810
@snowdrop9810 3 жыл бұрын
OVERLORD
@override83
@override83 3 жыл бұрын
omg that last game! I honestly thought MaNa was done for. That sneaky base when he hit 400 minerals was clutch!
@NAAjine
@NAAjine Жыл бұрын
And the recall, omg so sick
@notsoberoveranalyzer8264
@notsoberoveranalyzer8264 2 жыл бұрын
The funniest games to play & watch are the ones where people proxy cannon rush/star gate/gate and when the opponent doesn’t surrender & survives. How crazy the games get, awkward armies getting developed, like Phoenix-Sentry heavy army.
@connormchugh8456
@connormchugh8456 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Mana was entirely screwed, when he started the recall my jaw hit the floor
@eugeneponomarov7429
@eugeneponomarov7429 3 жыл бұрын
Omg, the last game... Everybody lost a faith, but he did it!
@yannisgutmann7923
@yannisgutmann7923 3 жыл бұрын
Last one was sick! Way worth the watch!
@user-im7km8tq7j
@user-im7km8tq7j 3 жыл бұрын
In the last one wasn't it a big mistake from Neeb giving off all his probes to a single void ray?
@marekz2799
@marekz2799 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Always pull the probes!
@josephbraun7984
@josephbraun7984 3 жыл бұрын
Neeb should have known pretty soon since Mana wasn't being revealed. I think he still loses though given the second void ray so Neeb wouldn't have been able to mine more anyway. He would have needed to get cannons in his main to defend before the void ray came.
@kingheenokgaming4783
@kingheenokgaming4783 Жыл бұрын
That was some nice thrown game. Love it.
@Scarletraven87
@Scarletraven87 3 жыл бұрын
In the first game Zerg looked stoopid, but probably he wasn't planning to win top right, he was trying to just last longer.
@khoitong8131
@khoitong8131 3 жыл бұрын
Probe could have won that if he didn’t rush right away and kill all his immortals He was already higher up on resources and rogue had to restart all his buildings If he jusr wasted and got upgrades and a bigger army He would have won
@oguzcanoguz5977
@oguzcanoguz5977 3 жыл бұрын
He would have a better chance if he made a pylon, some cannons, batteries and pushed with them. But Rogue took that base, because unlike the main and natural it is very open. You can't do the same thing you do as protoss. Probe might have a big army, but he could only produce immortals, which trade terrible against lings. He also was running very low on minerals while rogue had 3 bases to mine from. If he just sits back and macroes, well rogue is on 3 base with more drones so he would outmacro him. At the same time. Rogue can just make a spire, which would be game over. Probe was very much behind at that point. You have to contain the zerg. When he scouted that bottom left base, probe should have taken the warp prism and 2 immortals to kill it.
@annatar977
@annatar977 3 жыл бұрын
I think a pylon + a cannon or two when he discovered the hatchery would solve the problem.
@oguzcanoguz5977
@oguzcanoguz5977 3 жыл бұрын
@theMoonrider I disagree, there is no one in the world that can micro 7 immortals with a warp prism against mass lings and queens in an open field on creep. The only thing that enables protoss to do that in the first place is the safe position of batteries and cannons outside the natural, while the ramps make queen movement difficult.
@BudhaXIII
@BudhaXIII 3 жыл бұрын
Game 1 best describes the ridiculousness of cannon rush into immortal battery. The fact that a vastly inferior player like probe almost took a free win against one of the best players in the world speaks volumes about the "balance" of this broken game. Well, so long, SC2, and thanks for all the fish.
@khoitong8131
@khoitong8131 3 жыл бұрын
It depends I agree tho that he was very impatient immortals are good Exept they can get surrounded easily I would have used the immortals to Harras the outside bases instead of going straight into the natural then use the warp prism for cover cause rogue had 3 bases but he was jusr starting his production after he was cannon spammed if he jusr composed his and took out the bases taht were not around the natural he would have won
@Globalgenocide
@Globalgenocide 3 жыл бұрын
Two really good games. Nice.
@alibitter6361
@alibitter6361 3 жыл бұрын
Rogue is a god, not only defending the cannons with just lings and queens he also refused to die.
@skychaos87
@skychaos87 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, he was smart to sneak the drones out of the main and natural. Because however strong the proxy immortals are, without batteries they are shit. And protoss being on one base and investing everything into the batteries and cannons is basically all in with no second chance. Rogue was so good at seeing the amount of cannons and batteries knowing how much resources was invested and choose to do the mass expand strat instead of going roaches and ravagers. And yea, its impressive how much time he bought with just lings and queens to make his strat work.
@alibitter6361
@alibitter6361 3 жыл бұрын
@@skychaos87 exactly. The high level of playing and understanding he is showing is unreal and his unorthodox approach is also used in like lategame scenarios as well
@IgnatRemizov
@IgnatRemizov 3 жыл бұрын
Remember, it wasn't just lings and queens. Spines and overlords played a big part as well
@timothytobias9107
@timothytobias9107 3 жыл бұрын
I think the whole point of canon rushing is keeping your opponent in one base tho
@welovestats1
@welovestats1 3 жыл бұрын
Game 1 what a come back!
@TheGoonsies
@TheGoonsies 3 жыл бұрын
That hero shield battery in the last game
@jdubs604
@jdubs604 2 жыл бұрын
These comebacks are insane!!!!!!
@user-yg8qz4cu3s
@user-yg8qz4cu3s 3 жыл бұрын
My jaw is out after last game
@niccreznic8259
@niccreznic8259 2 жыл бұрын
Best recaps ever?
@kalenmuckleroy9441
@kalenmuckleroy9441 3 жыл бұрын
In the last game, how did the stargate completed and made a void Ray if the Cybernetics core was unpowered?
@OriginalRaisins
@OriginalRaisins 2 жыл бұрын
11 Months late but unpowered buildings still satisfy tech requirements, they just can't perform research or produce units.
@redpyramidthing6586
@redpyramidthing6586 3 жыл бұрын
That game 3 tho. There are two gateways, one is warping a stalker, one is not. What do you target fire? The one that is not
@ChillAutos
@ChillAutos 2 жыл бұрын
Also could of just killed the python way faster.
@raymondkuang6811
@raymondkuang6811 3 жыл бұрын
gotta love when rushers get pwned
@user-rg7gg2vx7b
@user-rg7gg2vx7b Жыл бұрын
The second was exactly the same as the one I had yesterday
@ahandle01
@ahandle01 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine a cannon rush vs a cannon rush
@tsundude4320
@tsundude4320 3 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand why battery shields start with full energy.
@Marunius
@Marunius 3 жыл бұрын
Lol maybe so that protoss doesn't completely suck? They're the worst race atm anyway.
@Maxflay3r
@Maxflay3r 3 жыл бұрын
you honestly don't understand why a building whose one of the primary functions is to reactively defend rushes is functional as soon as it is complete? protoss already has cannons as preemptive static defense, do you really not get why they added in batteries despite that?
@MrShitthead
@MrShitthead 3 жыл бұрын
Mana came back like fucking rocky
@lhfirex
@lhfirex 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, this cheese is fantastic!
@hypers829
@hypers829 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't know Michael Cera was a cannon rusher
@quocphantruong
@quocphantruong 3 жыл бұрын
2/3 are not Professional Canon Rush, they are Professional Defend & Counter Cannon Rush
@Winnetou17
@Winnetou17 3 жыл бұрын
I actually like it very much that we didn't know how will they finish. Glad they didn't say it in the title that 2 of them would be counters.
@bigchum3984
@bigchum3984 3 жыл бұрын
Rogue what a boss. Three or four times it looked hopeless but what do I know 🤷🏻‍♂️
@krioni86sa
@krioni86sa 3 жыл бұрын
Bisu is really good
@UheReasin
@UheReasin 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know you could do this in the game anymore
@danielvargas4793
@danielvargas4793 Жыл бұрын
What bothers me about the first game is protoss saw the hatchery in the bottom right and left it completely alone, one pylon and one cannon would've taken care of it. What a throw.
@marswor
@marswor 3 жыл бұрын
GG MANA!
@bles8856
@bles8856 3 жыл бұрын
D I S G U S T I N G. I love it
@trevor8851
@trevor8851 2 жыл бұрын
Probe should be in jail for that disgusting display of protoss. War crime. Bravo.
@Reloecc
@Reloecc 3 жыл бұрын
have you finally turned vsync on?! Good job
@cestlezooicimw
@cestlezooicimw 3 жыл бұрын
" zerg is op " funny how i don't hear that when it's not serral playing
@thovinh5386
@thovinh5386 3 жыл бұрын
It's still op. Jk, I just really hate the long tongue flying walking trash that Zerg has.
@cestlezooicimw
@cestlezooicimw 3 жыл бұрын
@@thovinh5386 sry are you talking about a unit? wich one is it i didn't get it
@thovinh5386
@thovinh5386 3 жыл бұрын
The Viper
@cestlezooicimw
@cestlezooicimw 3 жыл бұрын
@@thovinh5386 ooh yeah
@morningleaf9051
@morningleaf9051 Жыл бұрын
Very brave, and micro
@TheSanco26
@TheSanco26 3 жыл бұрын
Probe legit looks like Snute imo.
@TorfGamingChannel
@TorfGamingChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Mana is genius
@coffeebreakat2pm
@coffeebreakat2pm 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow snute playing protoss now
@Liltle
@Liltle 3 жыл бұрын
more like three UNPROFESSIONAL cannon rushes
@Liltle
@Liltle 3 жыл бұрын
well not really the 2nd one was successful
@momchilandonov
@momchilandonov 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda bad from the commentators to not see the huge potential of the Void Ray! Also Neeb overinvested in Cannons as he was obivously winning the position regardless of what Mana would've done...
@eduardossj3
@eduardossj3 3 жыл бұрын
First game is Rogue vs Snute
@metecetin
@metecetin 3 жыл бұрын
oh the last game...
@johndoe5432
@johndoe5432 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit Mana is a god.
@hottiesgalore9252
@hottiesgalore9252 3 жыл бұрын
Probe's facial expression whole game - this is not fun. I am not having fun
@oddeda
@oddeda 2 жыл бұрын
1:17 Is it me or it was an insane mistake not to send the lings to the Protoss's base? Either they straight up kill his economy production, or a minimum make him invest some money in defense instead of offense.
@minartistree
@minartistree 2 жыл бұрын
Probe would need one defensive cannon to be okay. Having the lings at home is also nice to try and slow down the rate that Probe can build cannons+batteries forwards. It's not an easy decision.
@niccreznic8259
@niccreznic8259 2 жыл бұрын
The whole problem was not respecting the initial forward buildings shenanigans
@luxon4
@luxon4 3 жыл бұрын
i thought that was snute for a second
@TangledThorns
@TangledThorns 3 жыл бұрын
derp gas n00b
@rayguzman5
@rayguzman5 3 жыл бұрын
The chances of Mana winning that last game was low.....but not zero.
@davidburnett5049
@davidburnett5049 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing the voidray just stay on target, no micro, is kinda nice.
@grisus7254
@grisus7254 3 жыл бұрын
Probe should have gone top left first imo
@TeddyRoooosevelt
@TeddyRoooosevelt 3 жыл бұрын
N-A! N-A! N-A!
@Dexsting
@Dexsting 3 жыл бұрын
VOID RAY FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@slumberingsam
@slumberingsam 2 жыл бұрын
epic
@timgubler3584
@timgubler3584 3 жыл бұрын
Queens are balanced
@nanoacido5174
@nanoacido5174 3 жыл бұрын
So NA starcratf level is similar to LoL's?
@Jomster777
@Jomster777 3 жыл бұрын
Man, Probe over extended and paid the price. Great game still
@Kassplaylist
@Kassplaylist 3 жыл бұрын
Batteries should require a nexus close by. It's ridiculous
@wiktormaslanik8498
@wiktormaslanik8498 3 жыл бұрын
Mana used some Polish Ingenuity in last game, i think he was still mining gas cause he wanted to keep his voidray production going.
@adriantitera2770
@adriantitera2770 3 жыл бұрын
Only 1 in 3 worked lol🤣♟🎯
@mr_confuse
@mr_confuse 3 жыл бұрын
Neeb got what he deserved in game 3
@tyraelpl
@tyraelpl 3 жыл бұрын
Rushi? Isnt that Nathanias?!
@SC2HL
@SC2HL 3 жыл бұрын
Its not! They sound quite similar ;)
@tyraelpl
@tyraelpl 3 жыл бұрын
@@SC2HL wooooah... That is crazy! Got my mind srsly f... blown 😮
@MrWallace484
@MrWallace484 3 жыл бұрын
I hate how op batteries are
@noseishin
@noseishin 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the protos loosing the game in the first matchup felt good. Fucking protos..
@Sir_Tomoyuki
@Sir_Tomoyuki 3 жыл бұрын
I love it when cannon rushers lose the game.
@thihalin3308
@thihalin3308 3 жыл бұрын
early noti squad first
@Syltibob
@Syltibob 3 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@asnyder1635
@asnyder1635 3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, I wanted at least one dirty cheeser to win. Oh well.
@zegermans750
@zegermans750 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing those immortals go down was the greatest thing I've ever seen
@mariozunigaliarte7492
@mariozunigaliarte7492 3 жыл бұрын
YESSSSS, so satisfyting
@journeyman171
@journeyman171 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why the guy in the first game surrendered when he lost his immortals? He would have had a ton of time to build an army or make a new base among all those canons and batteries in his opponents natural...
@niccreznic8259
@niccreznic8259 2 жыл бұрын
It would quickly have been 5 mining Zerg bases to 1.5 Protoss bases so there was no chance
@Trias805
@Trias805 Жыл бұрын
Can't 2 stalkers beat 1 void ray?
@rustyclayton9260
@rustyclayton9260 3 жыл бұрын
Neeb threw that third game so hard. That hurt to watch.
@FelipeNaranja
@FelipeNaranja 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be angry if the Cannon Rusher wins every time.
@FelipeNaranja
@FelipeNaranja 3 жыл бұрын
NOT ANGERY! Thanks for the video.
@snowdrop9810
@snowdrop9810 3 жыл бұрын
I actually really get sad when a cheese fails. Long macro games/allins are fine but cheeses are the most fun tbh
@business_max
@business_max Жыл бұрын
00:35 Rogue could have dropped creep with the overlord. 1000 IQ move
@darrenstettner5381
@darrenstettner5381 3 жыл бұрын
Not seeing why probe surrendered.
@iLoveLamp222
@iLoveLamp222 3 жыл бұрын
It was 2 base zerg vs barely 1 base toss. He kinda threw his army away, but after he lost his army he knows he cant come back to win with almost no economy; loss was inevitable imo.
@darrenstettner5381
@darrenstettner5381 3 жыл бұрын
@@iLoveLamp222 it was still far from over.
@jacobb3130
@jacobb3130 3 жыл бұрын
Nerf the viper
@lcflcf590
@lcflcf590 3 жыл бұрын
he is not "Has" lol
@FilippoSciarraViolin
@FilippoSciarraViolin 3 жыл бұрын
early squad where you at?
@attention_shopping
@attention_shopping 3 жыл бұрын
was the first game really lost? last game was great
@lordcanti4199
@lordcanti4199 3 жыл бұрын
It would be a bit more balanced to remove shields from warp prisms and make them health only units. It’s kind of ridiculous that he can constantly leap frog immortals in and out of a prism and the prism can be healed by the shield batteries making it impossible to kill with the queens. If he could kill the prism he could maybe take the immortal fight with a ling surround but how do you ever kill that prism when it’s being shield healed.
@simunator
@simunator 3 жыл бұрын
so happy for the first game. toss players are so garbage even with powermortals and prism infinite utility can't close out a match against a no gas zerg
@gunkanjima3408
@gunkanjima3408 3 жыл бұрын
Nub first game didn’t recall?
@theeraphatsunthornwit6266
@theeraphatsunthornwit6266 2 жыл бұрын
Stop using name like time has rogue(roach) probe....it mess up sentence😅
@AustinWigley
@AustinWigley 3 жыл бұрын
Early people club
@adamstewart8712
@adamstewart8712 2 жыл бұрын
@Genlimain
@Genlimain 3 жыл бұрын
Early gang
@thecataheeb7796
@thecataheeb7796 3 жыл бұрын
Cannon Rush for gay
@dawgamonggators
@dawgamonggators 3 жыл бұрын
Please delete the 1st part of this vid. Cant have anyone on ladder doing this to me :( zerg tears
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