Three Professional Cannon Rushes - StarCraft 2

[@TheAmazingCowpig]

We were promised cannon rushes, and we got two of the best cannon-rush-into-thrown-game ever, wew.

[@zygo0]

That first match of immortals vs queens was like watching two heavyweight wrestlers trying to beat the other down with pool noodles

[@ForTheWhalez]

Neeb with the most beautiful throw I have ever seen

[@DaCooGa]

Not saying you're wrong, but what do you think he should have done?

[@damienpoblete]

@@DaCooGa Scouting that proxy was the one thing tbh, he didn't wonder how his opponent had just 2 gates + 1 cyber, yet was mining 2 gases full on since quite early - the missing stargate should have been at least thought of (and then scouting to just see where it's located).

[@DaCooGa]

@@damienpoblete Gotcha, that actually makes perfect sense lol.

[@oponomo]

@@DaCooGa Also send all his mining probes to destroy that stargate and pylons since they were close and he didn't need money from that point really.

[@CenJohan]

How to beat Cannon rush: Sneak out a worker while protoss isn't looking.

[@dallarian8687]

It's very satisfying. Once my probe was on a way to scout enemy toss early and found out cannon rush. I have left my probe on his side on the map and later have hidden it in his main. I wonder how his face looked like, when he realised he have void rays, cannons and batteries all at once in his main. Cannonrushing a cannonrusher is a great satisfaction ^^ (After defending my main, my void production had rally point across the map, when I had 2 voids and he seen my buildings he just gged)

[@snowdrop9810]

@@dallarian8687 It may be satisfying, however its absofucking lutely one of the stupidest reactions. It makes you base trade someone who has a SHIT TON more cannons and batterries (since you wont be able to defend a 1 base all in when you proxy, and most importantly if the toss isnt garbage, they’ll see the probe (theese pros wont let you sneak a probe in their main without it being caught. If you further have a scout out, well you can be damn sure that they’ll check their base for proxies. (As someone who cannon rushes this is extremely frustrating as it shows you how little minimap awareness you have. (Fyi im way better at macroing than microing usually therefore cannon rush isnt actually good for me but its fun))

[@dallarian8687]

@@snowdrop9810 I wouldn't say so. The situation was already after successfully defending cannon rush. Double stargate was in my main as a standard reaction to cannon rush (view "Never lose to cannon rush again - Harstem hour"). I was on my way for void rays battles, my technology was beating his. He had only 1 cannon and it was on his ramp. Batteries and cannons in his main were just an addition, a small surprise that immediately finished the game in my favour. I waited with creation of "the outpost" to check if he's going to scout that. Timing for buildings was set for my 2nd voidray. Even if he scouted, loss of 1 pylon wouldn't make a difference. I wouldn't call that a base trade. My Void Rays printer was doing brrrrrrr and he had 2 sentries + 3 stalkers when I attacked. I would have 4 voids before his more stalkers would arrive on the battlefield. Yes, getting expansion, perhaps going for +1 would be safer, but I could finish the game in 2 minutes, so I did it.

[@snowdrop9810]

@@dallarian8687 ah yea, i thought you did something else. Still, its risky af, as you’ve pointed out the harstem hour never lose to cannon rush guide, printf actually managed to get him eventhough he was prepared and ready with the defense. This is why propably just sticking to defending it is the best idea. İf they dont get a follow up, well its propably gonna be a win anyway (scouting is really nice to have, and propably a single stalker can end most of a contain, and if its a contain you just get a robo and immortal go boom boom and you have a tech advantage thats really big so you prob win.)

[@snowdrop9810]

@@dallarian8687 also, another thing id like to mention is, if you managed to sneak a probe and a cannon, just hide 1 cannon then get 2-3 cannons able to shoot the nexus. (Cancel 3rd one if none died/were cancelled.) disrupting their mining just makes your voidray count surpass them by a massive margin and you win.

[@calliph]

I never get tired watching high level cannon rushes.

[@elfoyoutube6039]

Last time I was this early, I got my hatch down without being blocked

[@Vit-Pokorny]

Last time i was this early 6 pool was viable strategy

[@ivarvanlier8561]

Probe's face when he put that pylon underneath the overseer was golden

[@cjkhis1037]

pls time stamp

[@missbelled6700]

@@cjkhis1037 ... 0:09 ... ... ... ... bruh

[@snowdrop9810]

OVERLORD

[@khoitong8131]

Probe could have won that if he didn’t rush right away and kill all his immortals He was already higher up on resources and rogue had to restart all his buildings If he jusr wasted and got upgrades and a bigger army He would have won

[@oguzcanoguz5977]

He would have a better chance if he made a pylon, some cannons, batteries and pushed with them. But Rogue took that base, because unlike the main and natural it is very open. You can't do the same thing you do as protoss. Probe might have a big army, but he could only produce immortals, which trade terrible against lings. He also was running very low on minerals while rogue had 3 bases to mine from. If he just sits back and macroes, well rogue is on 3 base with more drones so he would outmacro him. At the same time. Rogue can just make a spire, which would be game over. Probe was very much behind at that point. You have to contain the zerg. When he scouted that bottom left base, probe should have taken the warp prism and 2 immortals to kill it.

[@annatar977]

I think a pylon + a cannon or two when he discovered the hatchery would solve the problem.

[@oguzcanoguz5977]

@theMoonrider I disagree, there is no one in the world that can micro 7 immortals with a warp prism against mass lings and queens in an open field on creep. The only thing that enables protoss to do that in the first place is the safe position of batteries and cannons outside the natural, while the ramps make queen movement difficult.

[@BudhaXIII]

Game 1 best describes the ridiculousness of cannon rush into immortal battery. The fact that a vastly inferior player like probe almost took a free win against one of the best players in the world speaks volumes about the "balance" of this broken game. Well, so long, SC2, and thanks for all the fish.

[@khoitong8131]

It depends I agree tho that he was very impatient immortals are good Exept they can get surrounded easily I would have used the immortals to Harras the outside bases instead of going straight into the natural then use the warp prism for cover cause rogue had 3 bases but he was jusr starting his production after he was cannon spammed if he jusr composed his and took out the bases taht were not around the natural he would have won

[@apetrenko_ai]

The last game was brilliant!

[@qazqa133]

nice decision

[@aznboiaaa]

probe's reaction at 0:11 seconds was funny

[@override83]

omg that last game! I honestly thought MaNa was done for. That sneaky base when he hit 400 minerals was clutch!

[@NAAjine]

And the recall, omg so sick

[@notsoberoveranalyzer8264]

The funniest games to play & watch are the ones where people proxy cannon rush/star gate/gate and when the opponent doesn’t surrender & survives. How crazy the games get, awkward armies getting developed, like Phoenix-Sentry heavy army.

[@a9302c]

Is it just me or does Rushi really sound like Nathanias

[@АндрейОнищенко-з8х]

In the last one wasn't it a big mistake from Neeb giving off all his probes to a single void ray?

[@marekz2799]

I agree. Always pull the probes!

[@josephbraun7984]

Neeb should have known pretty soon since Mana wasn't being revealed. I think he still loses though given the second void ray so Neeb wouldn't have been able to mine more anyway. He would have needed to get cannons in his main to defend before the void ray came.

[@alibitter6361]

Rogue is a god, not only defending the cannons with just lings and queens he also refused to die.

[@skychaos87]

Yea, he was smart to sneak the drones out of the main and natural. Because however strong the proxy immortals are, without batteries they are shit. And protoss being on one base and investing everything into the batteries and cannons is basically all in with no second chance. Rogue was so good at seeing the amount of cannons and batteries knowing how much resources was invested and choose to do the mass expand strat instead of going roaches and ravagers. And yea, its impressive how much time he bought with just lings and queens to make his strat work.

[@alibitter6361]

@@skychaos87 exactly. The high level of playing and understanding he is showing is unreal and his unorthodox approach is also used in like lategame scenarios as well

[@IgnatRemizov]

Remember, it wasn't just lings and queens. Spines and overlords played a big part as well

[@connormchugh8456]

I thought Mana was entirely screwed, when he started the recall my jaw hit the floor

[@eugeneponomarov7429]

Omg, the last game... Everybody lost a faith, but he did it!

[@Scarletraven87]

In the first game Zerg looked stoopid, but probably he wasn't planning to win top right, he was trying to just last longer.

[@redpyramidthing6586]

That game 3 tho. There are two gateways, one is warping a stalker, one is not. What do you target fire? The one that is not

[@ChillAutos]

Also could of just killed the python way faster.

[@timothytobias9107]

I think the whole point of canon rushing is keeping your opponent in one base tho

[@tsundude4320]

I still don't understand why battery shields start with full energy.

[@Marunius]

Lol maybe so that protoss doesn't completely suck? They're the worst race atm anyway.

[@Maxflay3r]

you honestly don't understand why a building whose one of the primary functions is to reactively defend rushes is functional as soon as it is complete? protoss already has cannons as preemptive static defense, do you really not get why they added in batteries despite that?

[@yannisgutmann7923]

Last one was sick! Way worth the watch!

[@kingheenokgaming4783]

That was some nice thrown game. Love it.

[@TheGoonsies]

That hero shield battery in the last game

[@kalenmuckleroy9441]

In the last game, how did the stargate completed and made a void Ray if the Cybernetics core was unpowered?

[@OriginalRaisins]

11 Months late but unpowered buildings still satisfy tech requirements, they just can't perform research or produce units.

[@welovestats1]

Game 1 what a come back!

[@oddeda]

1:17 Is it me or it was an insane mistake not to send the lings to the Protoss's base? Either they straight up kill his economy production, or a minimum make him invest some money in defense instead of offense.

[@minartistree]

Probe would need one defensive cannon to be okay. Having the lings at home is also nice to try and slow down the rate that Probe can build cannons+batteries forwards. It's not an easy decision.

[@niccreznic8259]

The whole problem was not respecting the initial forward buildings shenanigans

[@quocphantruong]

2/3 are not Professional Canon Rush, they are Professional Defend & Counter Cannon Rush

[@Winnetou17]

I actually like it very much that we didn't know how will they finish. Glad they didn't say it in the title that 2 of them would be counters.

[@danielvargas4793]

What bothers me about the first game is protoss saw the hatchery in the bottom right and left it completely alone, one pylon and one cannon would've taken care of it. What a throw.

[@jdubs604]

These comebacks are insane!!!!!!

[@Globalgenocide]

Two really good games. Nice.

[@niccreznic8259]

Best recaps ever?

[@ВладиславОстровский-й6ж]

My jaw is out after last game

[@ahandle01]

Imagine a cannon rush vs a cannon rush

[@trevor8851]

Probe should be in jail for that disgusting display of protoss. War crime. Bravo.

[@BlackDiamond2718]

Brilliant move to expand secretly cause that micro will cost expansion

[@raymondkuang6811]

gotta love when rushers get pwned

[@gujimugger]

The second was exactly the same as the one I had yesterday

[@Liltle]

more like three UNPROFESSIONAL cannon rushes

[@Liltle]

well not really the 2nd one was successful

[@hypers829]

Didn't know Michael Cera was a cannon rusher

[@bigchum3984]

Rogue what a boss. Three or four times it looked hopeless but what do I know 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@cestlezooicimw]

" zerg is op " funny how i don't hear that when it's not serral playing

[@thovinh5386]

It's still op. Jk, I just really hate the long tongue flying walking trash that Zerg has.

[@cestlezooicimw]

@@thovinh5386 sry are you talking about a unit? wich one is it i didn't get it

[@thovinh5386]

The Viper

[@cestlezooicimw]

@@thovinh5386 ooh yeah

[@momchilandonov]

Kinda bad from the commentators to not see the huge potential of the Void Ray! Also Neeb overinvested in Cannons as he was obivously winning the position regardless of what Mana would've done...

[@krioni86sa]

Bisu is really good

[@UheReasin]

I didn't know you could do this in the game anymore

[@TorfGamingChannel]

Mana is genius

[@davidburnett5049]

Seeing the voidray just stay on target, no micro, is kinda nice.

[@TheSanco26]

Probe legit looks like Snute imo.

[@bles8856]

D I S G U S T I N G. I love it

[@rayguzman5]

The chances of Mana winning that last game was low.....but not zero.

[@hottiesgalore9252]

Probe's facial expression whole game - this is not fun. I am not having fun

[@Jomster777]

Man, Probe over extended and paid the price. Great game still

[@marswor]

GG MANA!

[@johndoe5432]

Holy shit Mana is a god.

[@eduardopfranco]

First game is Rogue vs Snute

[@timgubler3584]

Queens are balanced

[@Kassplaylist]

Batteries should require a nexus close by. It's ridiculous

[@grisus7254]

Probe should have gone top left first imo

[@Tomoyuki_Tanaka]

I love it when cannon rushers lose the game.

[@lhfirex]

Oh man, this cheese is fantastic!

[@Reloecc]

have you finally turned vsync on?! Good job

[@coffeebreakat2pm]

Oh wow snute playing protoss now

[@luxon4]

i thought that was snute for a second

[@metecetin]

oh the last game...

[@business_max]

00:35 Rogue could have dropped creep with the overlord. 1000 IQ move

[@morningleaf9051]

Very brave, and micro

[@journeyman171]

I don't understand why the guy in the first game surrendered when he lost his immortals? He would have had a ton of time to build an army or make a new base among all those canons and batteries in his opponents natural...

[@niccreznic8259]

It would quickly have been 5 mining Zerg bases to 1.5 Protoss bases so there was no chance

[@Dexsting]

VOID RAY FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@mr_confuse]

Neeb got what he deserved in game 3

[@zegermans750]

Seeing those immortals go down was the greatest thing I've ever seen

[@mariozunigaliarte7492]

YESSSSS, so satisfyting

[@TeddyRoooosevelt]

N-A! N-A! N-A!

[@TangledThorns]

derp gas n00b

[@MrWallace484]

I hate how op batteries are

[@nanoacido5174]

So NA starcratf level is similar to LoL's?

[@wiktormaslanik8498]

Mana used some Polish Ingenuity in last game, i think he was still mining gas cause he wanted to keep his voidray production going.

[@tyraelpl]

Rushi? Isnt that Nathanias?!

[@SC2HL]

Its not! They sound quite similar ;)

[@tyraelpl]

@@SC2HL wooooah... That is crazy! Got my mind srsly f... blown 😮

[@Trias805]

Can't 2 stalkers beat 1 void ray?

[@adriantitera2770]

Only 1 in 3 worked lol🤣♟🎯

[@asnyder1635]

Not gonna lie, I wanted at least one dirty cheeser to win. Oh well.

[@lordcanti4199]

It would be a bit more balanced to remove shields from warp prisms and make them health only units. It’s kind of ridiculous that he can constantly leap frog immortals in and out of a prism and the prism can be healed by the shield batteries making it impossible to kill with the queens. If he could kill the prism he could maybe take the immortal fight with a ling surround but how do you ever kill that prism when it’s being shield healed.

[@FelipeNaranja]

I'm gonna be angry if the Cannon Rusher wins every time.

[@FelipeNaranja]

NOT ANGERY! Thanks for the video.

[@snowdrop9810]

I actually really get sad when a cheese fails. Long macro games/allins are fine but cheeses are the most fun tbh

[@darrenstettner5381]

Not seeing why probe surrendered.

[@iLoveLamp222]

It was 2 base zerg vs barely 1 base toss. He kinda threw his army away, but after he lost his army he knows he cant come back to win with almost no economy; loss was inevitable imo.

[@darrenstettner5381]

@@iLoveLamp222 it was still far from over.

[@noseishin]

Seeing the protos loosing the game in the first matchup felt good. Fucking protos..

[@rustyclayton9260]

Neeb threw that third game so hard. That hurt to watch.

[@attention_shopping]

was the first game really lost? last game was great

[@jacobb3130]

Nerf the viper

[@slumberingsam]

epic

[@lcflcf590]

he is not "Has" lol

[@FilippoSciarraViolin]

early squad where you at?

[@simunator]

so happy for the first game. toss players are so garbage even with powermortals and prism infinite utility can't close out a match against a no gas zerg

[@gunkanjima3408]

Nub first game didn’t recall?

[@theeraphatsunthornwit6266]

Stop using name like time has rogue(roach) probe....it mess up sentence😅

[@thihalin3308]

early noti squad first

[@Syltibob]

👍🏻

[@Nievesggness]

horrible shoutcasters.. "he should do x, he shouldve done y" constantly.. the pro players knows more about the game than anyone else yet the commentators are acting as if they knew better or would do better..

[@ustpcz9739]

Well, commentators can see both players.

[@adamstewart8712]

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[@AustinWigley]

Early people club

[@dawgamonggators]

Please delete the 1st part of this vid. Cant have anyone on ladder doing this to me :( zerg tears

[@thecataheeb7796]

Cannon Rush for gay

[@Genlimain]

Early gang