Scale Trains Steel Coil Car Review | Boomer Diorama ~ # 219

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@stevenlitkey9354 10 ай бұрын

I remember WAY back to my early model RR days when we were saddled with the ol’ Athearn blue box car kits. Oh how far the hobby has come !!! Then again I still enjoyed heavily modifying and weathering those blue box beauties 😃😃

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Yes, There is something about personalizing your own rolling stock. I still love doing it. Cheers.

@4everdc302 10 ай бұрын

Athearn was smart they'd bring back the bluebox at a bluebox price. I really think they are missing the boat on it. I know it's been requested to them many times according to Athearn 😢

@mikerubynfs 10 ай бұрын

@@4everdc302 I'd like it if manufactures sold cars as kits at a reduced price, I don't mind spending an hour or so assembling, and it is often easier to weather when still in bits.

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Scale Trains does have kits as well. They just released a caboose kit.@@mikerubynfs

@robertsiebenrock3997 10 ай бұрын

I appreciate your reviews and expertise. I've always had a great respect for you Canadians and enjoyed talking with many whom I consider friends.

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

I appreciate that and likewise! ;-)

@PeterTillman3 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for detailed review Boomer. I also noticed the lights installed in the car park - very cool

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Yes. I am looking at them. I may alter them a little.😁

@ChicagoCrossingRR 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for a great review Boomer - I bought and reviewed the N scale version so it's really interesting to see the commonalities and differences in good/bad/ugly between scales. I'm always amazed when there are essentially the same features between HO and N scale models. For us 1:160 folks it truly is a golden age 😀. A lot of the same issues as well - warping of the wire grab-ons and etched footplates seems present in about 30-40% of examples I've looked at. True about it being an easy fix, but yeah doesn't make me feel as enthusiastic my dollar is going into quality control, even understanding we're at the leading edge of what can be done on an N scale model. Something maybe more pertinent to N because of the model size and delicacy of handling - the cars are massively underweight without the coils (and the loaded cars will thus tip easily if you're a clutz like me), and I'll probably need to swap wheelsets as the ones on the model have a lot of rolling resistance. All told I'm glad I bought them though, really looking forward to weathering mine. Have a great day! - Eric

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

You raise a good point about "light" weight. I have an Intermountain Flat Car I really like, but it is just too light to run empty and I love to run empty flat cars.

@RonStanek 10 ай бұрын

@boomerdioramas They could have made them in die-cast-pig iron, as Athearn did on some of their newer intermodal container cars. Thought that may effect the cost, in an upward direction.

@xray606 10 ай бұрын

As a business owner myself, I feel like people can charge whatever they want. Especially since, it's not like we're talking about diabetes supplies. That said... It wasn't that long ago when I was a kid, me and my buddy would go to the big monthly DuPage Fair Grounds show. You could walk in with $20... Come away with 3-4 cars, some track, some magazines, and still have change left. I definitely miss those days. Side note: I'm a sucker for coil cars. I lived next to the EJE and have always been a big fan of the USS steel roads.

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

They are indeed beautiful cars. I also have a few Intermountain cars as well that I really like.

@johnbanicki7232 10 ай бұрын

Awesome looking cars. Thanks for sharing.

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@AndyDorsch 10 ай бұрын

Nice Review Boomer!!! Like to see all the different rolling stock on your layout!

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Hey Andy! Always appreciate hearing from you. Scale trains has my attention for sure. In fact manufactures like the former and Tangent , Rapido, Athearn Genesis, etc. have me sorting through my old stuff and deciding what I keep for River Road.-)

@JKS62B50 10 ай бұрын

ScaleTrains is top notch I do recommend their locomotives as well. Greetings from Slovenia Europe!!

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

I just acquired a Scale Trains SD-38-2 and it is indeed awesome. 😁👍

@JKS62B50 10 ай бұрын

@@boomerdiorama BTW thank you for your amazing videos they're well appreciated. Very noble of you to share your wealth of knowledge with us modelers. I'm doing my model railway with my twin brother and your advices will be very beneficial. You actually gave a courage to my twin brother to buy his first airbrush set when he stumbled upon your amazing channel during his ( Covid ) sick leave in August 2022. I wish you and your family and your cat Dusty a great New Year. Keep up the good work 🙏

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

O.K. Thank you. Tell your brother to have fun with it. Cheers ~ Boomer.😁@@JKS62B50

@bobhastings6464 10 ай бұрын

Hey Boomer Do you remember when Athearn blue box cars were three bucks and the “new SD 40-2s” cost a whopping $20! lol Cheers from Ontario Bob

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

I still have some older stuff like that. I really like them, especially the Accurail stuff as well.

@bobhastings6464 10 ай бұрын

@@boomerdiorama I enjoy detailing them and bringing them up to snuff

@danielfantino1714 10 ай бұрын

I also remember that in those days we still find them pricey. Today plastic cars are same price than brass of the past. And you could forget a brass one next to your car windshield in summer and it would survive. Try that....and it won´t just be dirty and weathered 😢

@cameronwheatley7792 10 ай бұрын

Hey Boomer, happy new year!! With some time off I had some time or made some time to dig out a book out from storage, it is "The encyclopaedia of model railways" by Terry Alan published by Octopus books in 1979. Amazing how much hasn't actually changed at all, yep sure we now have DCC but the concept is all still the same. It is an absolutely amazing gift you are passing on to everyone here. Looking through this book I can see what possible inspired yourself as it did myself all those years ago. For myself it is nice to now be inspired by yourself to get everything I wanted to build all those years ago up and running now. Thanks again for all the hard work and dedication you put into show us how it should be done, wishing you a wonderful year to come. All the best

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

All I do is demonstrate what the old masters did before me . . . It's been lost with RTR indoctrination. 🤣

@cameronwheatley7792 10 ай бұрын

@@boomerdiorama you do far more than that, you are a master in your own right. The book is awesome but has nothing on what you teach us

@phillipgrey 10 ай бұрын

I have a few ScaleTrains engines and I ran one of the them outside as test in -25C. I noticed the top radiator grills on CN ET44AC, that were etched, deflected slightly but nothing major. I let Scale Trains know that the engine ran at that temperature and they were quite impressed. They have great products.

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Sounds awesome. Yes indeed, they produce awesome products. ;-)

@RonsTrainsNThings 10 ай бұрын

The couplers are a perennial issue with Scale Trains in both HO and N scale, and the walkway deflection was true of the N scale version of this car as well. That said, I agree the N scale version was beautiful as well.

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

The photo-etch walkways pop due to the shrink of the plastic which causes the metal walk-way to deflect.

@dan8402 10 ай бұрын

Can't wait to see it pick up a little road grime! It is true we have access to amazing models now, that 30 years ago didn't exist, unless you took the deep dive into detailing your models. That is a great facet of the hobby though. Buy that $15 Atlas car, chop it up and add $40 with or etched brass parts etc! There are so many amazing things we can do like DCC with electronic traffic control so you can automate movements on your layout, working signals. Amazing craftsman models, and scale lighting. The list goes on and on. Since I am steam era logging, and mining, trees are important to me. Your use of common materials to make hyper realistic trees to me is a critical component of what I want to do.

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Oh yeah . . . I have been going down the rabbit hole of lighting and signalling lately. The lighting is a whole new fascinating dimension. Things are looking really cool for night ops . . . ;-)

@dan8402 10 ай бұрын

@@boomerdiorama Throw in a rain storm and you could stream that. lol

@michaelimpey1407 10 ай бұрын

Boomer, Interesting review. I have not seen this brand of model in Australia, but I tend not to look at / for US or Canadian models, as I model Australian. I agree, the better the model is made, to more Ugly it becomes for price. But the mdels are a real work of art, and exactly like photos from the era I am modelling. Thank you for sharing, cheers,a nd stay safe, Michael

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

I do have a soft spot for Scale Trains for sure. ;-)

@ainsleyperry5192 10 ай бұрын

Boomer, A nice review. You'd think after all these years all the couplers on rolling stock would be compatable with each other. Like everything prices are never coming down. I know it has nothing to do with this review but I love the way the flat car runs. Just no wobble. I note the street lamps are in. Cheers, Chris Perry.

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Yes. I am trying out some of those rather nice Atlas street lamps. Not sure about them yet though. Something seems to be missing. Maybe concrete footings and barriers as well.

@ScottTaipaleRail 10 ай бұрын

Scaletrains, Tangent and Exactrail are pricey but you’re unlikely to be disappointed. When Walthers came out with another run of coil cars a year or two ago they cost more than the premium lines. I dumbly assumed they must have new tooling hence the $20ish increase in price and bought one without opening the box. I was so pissed when I opened it and found the same half assed attempt at underbody detail I put it right up on eBay and haven’t bought another Walthers car since.

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

It's funny the way that works. I have some Athearn Hoppers "Mainline" cars that look just as good as the "Genesis" line. On the other hand, like you say, I was really disappointed in some boxcars as well and promptly unloaded them. I have become quite picky now . . . and then there are the Athearn Genesis Tank Cars that I am addicted to as well. ;-)

@FHollis-gw4cc 10 ай бұрын

Interesting info about the couplers. I bought some Kadee cars and when I went to change the couplers, I found that they had changed the couplers and the inside of the box to using a pointed pivot pin and that caused a distinct problem for me. the distance from the pivot pin to the outside end of the box has also changed. I use Sergent couplers and they require the old style round pivot pin. Now, I'm going to have to check out all my new purchases as I'm afraid other manufacturers will be going to the Kadee type of pocket. I don't really want to have to spend that kind of money and have to cut out the coupler bow to replace it. Add that to the ugly list!

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Every model railroader has a box full of Kadee couplers if they have been in the hobby long enough. ;-)

@perryamicangelo4008 10 ай бұрын

Nice review, I cannot and will not pay that kind of money, one of the nice things about having a 18"X 6 ' layout is lower cost. So far 15 cars on the roster.....I currently always looking for older MDC or Athearn....being retired is the best reason

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

I hear you. I am almost there with my roster . . . famous last words. ;-)

@thebritishrailroader 10 ай бұрын

Great review, really balanced. It does look nice but I hear you when you say about the price tag and minor defects. For the price you would expect at least couplers that work.

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Yeah. I am not sure what to think of that. I understand their affinity for accuracy, so they may have been going for the more realistic looking coupler over functionality. This is where I am thankful for the NMRA standards. Where would this hobby be without them? eg: - Kadee Couplers. ;-)

@eeclass20 10 ай бұрын

The underside of the coupler box looks to have a grub screw, so I would guess a scale Kadee 58 will go in. Just need to be careful with the coupler cut lever when doing the swap. My thought would be about Scaletrains doing spare lids, angled and curved ', undec'd would be handy. I seem to recall some one doing alternative lids years ago for the Walthers car. Big thing for me is the cost! Two secondhand Red Caboose or Walthers cars for that price (even allowing for $to£ rate).

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Even though te couplers look good I'll be pulling them for sure for Kadees.

@jimh7557 10 ай бұрын

Great review. I look forward on how you will weather this car.

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

We shall see as it takes a number in the que. ;-)

@CPRRAMSEY 10 ай бұрын

love scaletrains and tangent too

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

I would have to say Tangent is my number one favorite. ;-)

@donwhead 10 ай бұрын

We have the same issue with couplers in N scale. Micro-Trains (formerly Kadee) is the gold standard for couplers in N scale, and all the others are "finicky" at best when it comes to coupling with Micro-Trains or some of the other brands, and a few don't even couple well to themselves! I am certain that adding Micro-Trains couplers to a car costs them more than designing and manufacturing their own, but they're also losing sales because I quite often just won't buy a car because I know I have to change out the couplers, and that's more trouble than it's worth.

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

It's funny how we assume . . . "Oh well, it's just another set of couplers," when in fact it collectively adds up. This is why I like my Intermountain and Atlas. They look pretty good and function right out of the box. ;-)

@sammym.belfastchild 10 ай бұрын

Ouch , the price of rolling stock these days is getting a bit out of hand , they are very nice though. There are some really nice examples of prototypical cars these days with outstanding detail , the hobby is just going to get better an better . Hopefully the prices will regulate as a bit more time goes by , these past few Covid years has definitely impacted price points I'm sure . Cheers Boomer , an thanks for sharing.

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

They do sting but they are also very nice as well. Cheers.

@OldcampRanch 10 ай бұрын

That was very cool 👍🏻 have a great day

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Cheers!😬👍

@iflyrattraps 10 ай бұрын

I definitely feel you get what you pay for with Scaletrains and you make the purchase knowing you're going to get an amazing model. I have zero problem paying their prices knowing the product I'll receive. What I don't like is the companies that feel they can charge the Scaletrains/Rapido premium and produce inferior, generic products. Not to call out other manufacturers because are producing some decent products but I think they're capitalizing on the higher end manufacturers and charging way more than their more generic, less detailed models. I feel I get a lot more prototypical accuracy from a Scaletrains locomotive than I do, say, a Bachmann whose prices are absurd for the level of detail you get.. Just an opinion but they mostly look like toys, not models.

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Good analysis and I agree. Cheers and thanks for sharing. ~ Boomer.

@stephenhottle6783 10 ай бұрын

Great review and great movie too 🎭

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

😁👍

@RonStanek 10 ай бұрын

That steel coil car will go fantastic with the National Steel Car factory all the way across the layout in Hamilton, Ontario. 🤔😆 Hey, compression on train layouts..is a thing....😊 That way, your shelf layout would cover, at least three-fourths of across Canada 🇨🇦 😁 Nice review...Boomer, always enjoy well-made models. I'm just curious....about what estimate of cost would you say it would be to build one of those cars completely from scratch? Cheers🍺

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Most likely more . . . but at least I could spread it out and have the only one with functional couplers . . . 🤣

@jesselomas8626 10 ай бұрын

Agree on all the comments. It is subjective...

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, for sure. I still love my Atlas cars as well. ;-)

@CM-ARM 9 ай бұрын

Hey Bommer I to think if they are going to charge so much that they should use the industry standards of the couplers. Scale Trains isn't the only ones not following the standards that most of us prefer

@boomerdiorama 9 ай бұрын

I just picked up an 'Exact Rail" Combo-door box and it comes with Kadee # 58 couplers. ;-)

@derz-crackmodellbahnvideosinsp 10 ай бұрын

"👍1" 😊 The lonesome Cowboy 🤠

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

. . . but not lonely . . . 😉

@derz-crackmodellbahnvideosinsp 10 ай бұрын

@@boomerdiorama # Cowgirl 😘

@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204 10 ай бұрын

cool vid on channel thanks lee

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Thank you. Cheers.

@julieswanson3212 10 ай бұрын

Wife and I enjoy all your videos what happened to Dusty have not seen on past three videos

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Dusty is happening. Somehow she slipped through the cracks on the last few. She gets spooked from the fireworks in the neighborhood and goes down for days at times and I simply cannot find her. Dusty will be back this Sunday! Cheers.

@SharkoonBln 10 ай бұрын

Only 2 minutes in, sorry if that Q is answered later in the video... Will you give those street lamps in the background to the left a little bit of weathering? I´m just asking cuz they look like "fresh out of the box", and that´s not the usual Boomer level of detail 😉

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for reminding me. I just plugged in those lamps to look see. I agree, they need some work . . . and weathering. ;-)

@Tracksidebench 10 ай бұрын

I don’t own any scale trains but they always have very good details ! But intermodal is the same before scale model came and the prices was about the same

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

If you mean Intermodal cars . . . yes. Very pricey to build up a fleet of those . . . lol.

@Tracksidebench 10 ай бұрын

@@boomerdiorama I ment inter mountain

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

I really like the Intermountain Cylindrical Hoppers. 😁@@Tracksidebench

@breydence_8912 8 ай бұрын

I like your Scale Trains Coil Car where did you get this

@boomerdiorama 8 ай бұрын

Look up Intercity Trains & Hobbies web page. They have more and they are beautiful. Cheers.

@ronaldrondeau7870 10 ай бұрын

Great review you wright but some of their cars have ussues

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Yes. I think they all do. This is why I love detailing my own stuff. It makes them more personal. ;-)

@lestatdelc 10 ай бұрын

So you are saying you recoiled at the price? ;)

@boomerdiorama 10 ай бұрын

Respectfully, the coupler issue bothers me some because it serves the collector, not the operator so I have to install Kadees to make the car functional. The NMRA standards are there for good reason and some manufactures ignore them. ;-) Cheers and thanks for taking the time to comment. 😁

@lestatdelc 10 ай бұрын

@@boomerdiorama - I get it. I was simply trying to make a bad Dad joke/pun.