Scammell recovery 2

[@bobdollar8746]

Absolutely a great video. Can you imagine the amount of engineering that went into creating those recovery vehicles. Everything had its place. Without a doubt the Greatest Generation. Thank you for sharing this video.

[@mcc9887]

Dont very often watch something all the way threw but found this really interesting,, thanks for this bloody great.....

[@miksal26]

I guess that,in spite of the impressive,pristine quality of the film and the rarely seen subject matter,we really are in awe of the simplicity of the equipment and the teamwork of the crews that would have been working their bums off in extremely hazardous conditions. Without all the microswitch and joystick controlled handling and heavy lift systems we have now ,this film would still be in use today to instruct heavy lift retrieval teams.

[@howler6490]

I'm just thinking about the paperwork nowadays...I suppose 1 entry for enemy would do... My uncle worked on scammel tank recovery vehicles in Glasgow corporation workshops, preparing them for bus, tram and trolley bus recovery.

[@abuubaydullah1]

These Men with there Trucks laid down the foundations of heavy recovery of today and we are lucky these Scammells are still around and working they were built to withstand any and everything thrown at them .

[@PhilMacVee]

This is so good to see from so many years ago. It's physics and mechanical advantage and common sense. It's the beauty of Scammell trucks. It's such a joy to see the birth of heavy haulage in this. I do however worry as to the Health and Safety in such simple things as hand protection whilst handling wire ropes and heavy lifts/pulls. When risk assessments were known by other names as routine operating instructions. I dare say many non-combatants were injured in these recoveries, the odd finger or hand here or there!

[@bigtoad45]

My dad transferred from a Sherman tank to a recovery vehicle. He only had one working eye so as more men entered the European theater he was put into a different job where his limited vision wouldn't be such an issue. He wasn't in the job for very long. His vehicle was kissed head on by a German 88 mm. My dad saw the gun before it fired and went out the hole in the roof as the shell hit. His left arm and leg were peppered with metal. He managed to get to a small stone building and the next round hit it. He survived but didn't wake up until he was in England. Spent six month relearning how to walk again. Many decades later he had intestinal surgery and the doctor came out after the operation and asked how he came by all of the scar tissue inside.

[@jonathantatler4456]

Fair play by your dad and all of them that went through the war, some paid very highly for our peace.

[@tallandhandsome29]

Hat off to your Dad.

[@GrasshopperKelly]

By being part of the greatest generation

[@gemmamudd7167]

Nice story thanks for sharing

[@402440]

Big salute 🫡 to your dad

[@multitoolish]

Love these old training videos. That old m3 Lee was looking good up there! Thanks for upload

[@andrewrcmadwilkinson6999]

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[@twilightroach4274]

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[@JS-kh7zb]

My father did this role in WW2. He started off in North Africa, Then Italy, then D Day and through Germany. At least now I can see what was involved in his work :)

[@peterk2455]

Cables and pulleys rarely break, are reliable in desert, snow and mud, don't require liters of oil to be carried, filtered, kept in circulating tanks, have leaking or broken joints and pipes etc. These men recovered a LOT of vehicles during WWII, from minefields, bogged in fields, overturned in ditches, shot up blocking roads, sometimes under fire. Many times the remains of the crew still inside them; they also cleared areas after battles, of allied and axis vehicles, some booby trapped. I've had occasion to be grateful for RAEME recovery crews, worth their weight when it comes down to it.

[@Hellsong89]

But when they do snap under tension you can be sure there is decapitated people if anyone is close enough, thats why those type of cable winches are around here called "widow makers". Though its better than chain.. least with cable there is some warning, where as chain just snaps with out warning.

[@dunemetal67]

peter kuhn Also, if you are really old school, cables can be spliced if broken or otherwise. Tough to do but easier than trying to repair a busted hydraulic fitting or hose which is damn near impossible with out the proper tooling

[@geoffgr88]

What's RAEME ?

[@mottthehoople693]

hahahahahahahah

[@gemmamudd7167]

@@dunemetal67 I would like to see how it spliced together

[@aswclassicsiow8588]

When I did my Mechanic apprenticeship with a Ford main dealer here in the UK in 1970 to 75 we had a Scammell Pioneer as our heavy recovery truck used to love going in that

[@davidpage4005]

I used to work with a bloke who did this all for real during WW11. He used to say that it was great fun at times, but the way the Germans carried on, someone could be hurt. Great bloke.!!

[@jamessmith7691]

Those track guides are a good idea. Many in all walks of life could benefit from them.

[@bborkzilla]

This really makes you appreciate modern hydraulic systems on recovery vehicles...

[@karlk6860]

Incredible how all this worked back then its beyond amazing how many people in the crew and hoar all of them had to work not to mention that everybody had their job and it involved a whole lot of lifting and knowing what they are doing very COOL!

[@Hopeless_and_Forlorn]

Under nourished before the war and fed short rations during the five long years of conflict, the British working class did hard, physical work day by day and year after year until the war was won. My hat is off to them.

[@peterstevenson5418]

And after all they fought for was given away by the british goverment

[@TheAmerican1963]

@ASCALON and in spite of being Lions led by donkeys, they beat the germans with some help.......G#d bless them..... :-)

[@reefer2917]

Hang on? I thought the Americans won the war single handedly? I know they used it to make themselves Rich, only coming in when everyone else was wearing down and thoughtfully supplying the British needs for a price.... The Americans became the hardware store for weapons of War, they still are! starting/promoting little wars over the planet so they can supply arms to whoever can pay for them, Like encouraging the Philippines to attack the Chinese! the Filipinos aren't stupid, they told the USA to Fu^k off

[@TheAmerican1963]

@@reefer2917 LOL.....that is what you get for thinking.....you can F#ck Off...... :-)

[@TallshrewFishing]

I bagsy the motorcyclist's job. PS. Fantastic video in marvelous condition. Thanks.

[@GrasshopperKelly]

Fun fact.... this is why we more or less abandoned a Churchill in Ireland at the firing range when the engine died and spare parts were not possible, nor repairs in the field. The turret was removed and carried back for exercises. Until we used up the ammo, and buried it in 1967 until it was dug out of Glen of Imaal over 2002 and 2003. It's in Belfast today. No... we didn't have a Scammell...

[@davidrowley8251]

Instructional film was made in 1944. Mechanical winch technology was well developed, simple, no hoses to break, could deal with dirty conditions and handle the cold. Large hand operated hydraulic jacks were used also.

[@normandate4495]

Much more of this excellent stuff and I will dump the TV! many thanks.

[@mikehcomcon5700]

The use of the 5:1 block-and-tackle rig to multiply the hauling force of the Scammell is interesting. So simple to apply just by carrying some blocks and pulleys and cable. I wonder... how many kids are still taught at school about the principle of the block and tackle in the Physics lab like we were ? (integer multiplication of any pulling/hauling force, up to very high multiplying factors, just dependent on how many blocks you use).

[@6milesup]

Ummm, no kids are taught that, unless they go to engineering school.

[@pvtimberfaller]

Most people will never need that info. I spent years on a cable yarder & never needed it.

[@6milesup]

@@pvtimberfaller What is a cable yarder?

[@thedonofbgfmakoflatty172]

None in America! Vast majority of Young Americans cannot comprehend how to drive vehicle with a Manuel transmission! They would argue learning Block and Tackle theory and thee how to is no problem. Until they have to rig B & T set up!

[@liliput50]

glad they didn't make it to complicated !!!

[@miksal26]

They show a lot of faith in the cable makers by not bothering to provide gloves. Not to worry though,they are only the unwashed enlisted. They wouldn’t want to be in too much of a hurry though .

[@VenturiLife]

Only 5000 simple steps!

[@rogermarshall8991]

Instead of PT this morning we are going to the motor pool and disconnect trailers...

[@scottross617]

LMFAO! shades2!

[@phillipdavis5241]

By the time they got the tank loaded, the war was over!

[@geoffoldcorn7406]

My Dad was one of the diamond T drivers on tank carrier duty.

[@jeffkeith637]

That Scammell tractor is so badass. I want one.

[@Triumphatlast]

No you don't. Most of the cab was canvas, it had a crash gear box and did very little more than 20mph

[@mottthehoople693]

id have one

[@Mog435]

Thanks for posting Excellent !

[@Triumphatlast]

The Territorial Army was still practicing tank recovery using this very same gear in the 60's. Recovery a tank from a ditch and getting it onto the recovery vehicle took hours. It was extremely boring...My memories are that the the TA at that time was very much an old soldiers drinking club

[@andicog]

Brilliant video, looks like hard work compared to today.

[@DraftySatyr]

Laying out a 5-1 pull is still warm work, I can tell you.

[@aurktman1106]

“Simple as a Hollywood divorce..”. Lol!

[@MagnetOnlyMotors]

3:37 no gloves? Ever been bitten by those cable barbs? Only happens once. 10:32 simple as a Hollywood divorce? That’s nice.

[@jimeditorial]

Note the sign on the American made Diamond T tractor....."caution right hand drive"....obviously meant for US Army operators

[@kindervelt2005]

No pinched fingers. Amazing!

[@rogermarshall8991]

Holy SHIT !!!!! That is ridiculous. The UK didn't have standard 5th. Wheel hook ups ??? Obviously not .... That amount of heavy labor to disconnect a freek'n trailer. Wow... A crew did not stand a chance in a hot recovery area.

[@viktorsergeev.2857]

Очень крутая техника. Для тех лет даже очень не плохо. В СССР такого не было.

[@NickRatnieks]

"As simple as a Hollywood divorce." Those were the days! Not quite so simple, today! I see that stricken Covenanter is outside a big stately home. I think this may be where the phrase: "Get your tanks off my lawn" originates. Two Covenanters were disinterred from a farm not far from here. I think burying this particular type of tank if they were troubled was the favoured methodology- but not so easy on somebody's lawn.

[@georgeatkinson759]

Officer arrives in jeep and says..."Sorry lads... wrong tank...take it off again....Yours is over there...."

[@l337pwnage]

those are some bad ass tires.

[@johncone9516]

I love the way they pull out the winch cable using bare hands, ouch.

[@stanthology]

Looks like a 1930 design. No nonslip on the ramps WTF. Medieval.

[@brianellsworth4767]

No gloves allowed when handling cable. It is a safety rule believe it or not. After a couple years your calluses are thick as my skull.

[@brianellsworth4767]

Yup even with a glove on it will, but you won't get pulled into the winch. I think that was the logic along with no hearing protection on the big guns, you have to hear the commands. Watch out for the dinosaur crossings things have changed today

[@brianellsworth4767]

It's time to slush the cables.HAHA

[@redsampler2017]

jumping down 2,5 metres is killing for the joints as well. 24:50 double ouch

[@thespiritof76..]

,make no mistake folks Only a fool would argue man has more intelligence today.

[@Ar-kx4hp]

When my father, a career soldier first joined up he saw this exact scenario in west Germany. The cable snapped and the recoil literally sliced the winchman in half. The cables were not up to the task. He said the ‘mess’ was awful to see

[@snidepete5700]

That Scammel rig is a steam punk's wet dream! And don't tell me it's from a different country than Meccano sets!

[@ИгорьКрылов-э3ж]

Мудрено! Поражает как солдаты без перчаток не травмируя руки манипулируют с тросами. Или британские тросы супер качества?! Ни одной заусеницы?!

[@jondoherty3678]

Is the bar or maybe a plate running over the top of the suspension on the tank to lock it

[@normanbrunt2053]

Watching the men load the Scammell 30 ton trailer made me feel tied. I read that the British Army got rid of all these trailers after the war because of difficulties getting under bridges when loaded.

[@mad4tarmac]

great videos cheers for sharing

[@killbot1974]

Thank God for glad hands, and fifth wheels.

[@67rotorhead]

Glad I didn't have to use this type of Equipment, as a Recovery Specialist in the Army

[@idkzero]

15 pins later and we're all dead! jolly good effort

[@trucktalkvideos]

Just great love it You Tube needs more WW2 trucks!

[@stoufer2000]

Quite a lot of 'struts to be removed' and replaced. I would have loved this job.

[@charlessphere2626]

LOL!! Marvelous stuff. And no one ever wears gloves..

[@danajohnson3799]

I say, jolly good engineering that!

[@relathan1]

SCAMMELLS!! Must be in heaven

[@Sturminfantrist]

Thx for upload this Vid Ilove this Scammel Transporter, one of my first models made in the 70s was the Scammel Tanktransporter from Airfix for my Centurion early mark, but i loved the ANTAR too but sadly i found none at this time, it would be the better choice for a Centurion or Chieftain In the 60s i have seen some US built WW2 Wrecker in BAOR Service during Manouvre ( iam not sure but it was Diamond T/ maybe a White/Kenwood or Ward la france Wrecker) , later the Wreckers were on FODEN Chassis and this old stuff disappeared How long the Diamond T served in BAOR?

[@windage]

glad to see the Sten submachine gun as part of the recovery recon

[@stevethompson1498]

there used to be a tractor unit in the transport museum in Beveley, anyone know where it went ??

[@SteelyPaw]

I rode English motorcycles, like Triumph & BSA, back in the late 60's and early 70's. it was always tough to keep them running primarily due to the Lucas Ignition. I wonder how reliable they were during WWI and WW2 as the British used a lot of motorcycles mainly because materials were in short supply as most of everything had to be shipped in and the submarines were sinking shipping a few a day with vital supplies. ...... I would think an antique dealer or anyone that restores trucks and cars, would love to have one of these in this video, I know I certainly would, even as I know today's flat bed and roll back trailers take all that work of a few men and turns it into something just the driver can handle.

[@menace7172000]

Lucas Prince of Darkness.

[@SteelyPaw]

@@menace7172000 LoL, they were trouble some. I didn't learn until later in life just how bad that system was. It was also in the MG & MG-GT cars. They were cute and fun to drive, but keeping them running was tough. At the time I work for a Ford - Mercury dealer that sold them too, and as a kid working part time I had to scrub the Cosmoline off the body's of the cars, what a job, then wax them. I guess they were coated because they were on a ship in the salt air being transported. I often wondered if the Triumph Motor cycles and BSA's were coated with that stuff too.

[@mikeymarmalade]

Pete_ Hine_Of_PA My grandad was a dispatch rider in WWII. They were trained to keep the bikes running in all weathers and they did. You weren’t trained as they were and so struggled.

[@nunyabizness199]

Pete_ Hine_Of_PA, Lucas, prince of darkness 😂

[@SteelyPaw]

@@nunyabizness199 sure was....

[@andrewwoodhead3141]

Can anyone explain the bar that seems to connect the wheel bogies on both sides of the Grant tank ? This has to be non standard , yet it looks like a permanent fixture ...

[@MrChris1434]

These are mud chutes, fitted to some vehicles but not seen in use outside UK.

[@MrChris1434]

the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/manufacturer/m3grant/m3grant.html scroll down and you will see this feature.

[@andrewwoodhead3141]

@@MrChris1434 Thanks. I didn't know that.

[@andrewwoodhead3141]

@@MrChris1434 Thank you for that. Very interesting. Such evocative photographs too !

[@hanshartfiel6394]

The war will be over by the time those blokes have finished preparing the Scammell

[@briananthony4044]

It was stated that the procedure took 10 minutes, that's not long.

[@patricklawlor2852]

P

[@BeechSportBill]

WOW - logistics is like ROCKET SCIENCE!

[@gregoriousgilbert519]

Have made model of one, wondered about the high deck? now know. cheers

[@davidstanley3290]

“However did zey vin?”

[@andrewmcdonald793]

Very interesting, i am building a model off a scamell recovery vehicle, i guess it would not be so nice doing a recovery in bad weather conditions or under the risk off enemy fire, very interesting film.🙂

[@snowman374th]

No gloves?

[@1981MJD]

Real men don't use gloves.... we eat burning coal for dinner using our hands.

[@l337pwnage]

My hand meat was wrapped with gloves for as long as I can remember.

[@carlosrafael9124]

imagine it at war to recover a damaged toasted being made it hellish it was nasario to do a lot of things just to put the armored in the trailer

[@snidepete5700]

If a spaceman had dropped in with an air 5th wheel and glad hands for the brake hoses, those guys woulda been SURE they'd died and went to heaven!

[@neilmchardy9061]

I wonder how many fingers were nipped off?

[@johnchandrav.1823]

Good Show! What year was this around,when this action was captured?

[@Paleoman]

i think it says 1944

[@andrewrcmadwilkinson6999]

I SAY CHAPS THIS LOOKS LIKE SPIFFINGLY GOOD FUN!

[@MrRuaAyengin]

In order to use this device You must study at Scammel academy for 4 years, Passed through 20 exam's and be graduated with flying colors.

[@noelwhittle7922]

all the while getting shelled and shot at...

[@loneranger5349]

Imagine a day when countries work together ❤️

[@stephenspreckley8219]

Was the tank's engine not working? Perhaps it could just be driven on to the float!

[@billwinship3734]

Often damaged and smashed when recovered.

[@RandallFlaggNY]

Towing the "Coffin for Seven Brothers."

[@axeman6560]

Is that the Lee you referring to? I agree and believe they were a total pile.

[@RandallFlaggNY]

They were withdrawn to be training vehicles. This is one of them.

[@RandallFlaggNY]

Regardless they're in a training film, not at the front.

[@paulopalhano6380]

Parabéns pela abilidade dos militares 🇧🇷🎺👍

[@jlhighfield9116]

Imagine how much fun it would be walking up the ramps if they were wet

[@anthonyv8329]

Wish there was audio. Very interesting though.

[@thespiritof76..]

Wonder why the tank didn’t drive up the ramp?

[@billwinship3734]

Because they were usually badly shot up and damaged.

[@courtneyhall7140]

rube goldberg and fred flintstone invention.

[@casadelshed9128]

Then they all went to the pub for a few pints of mild, an shepherds pie.

[@quested5202]

It looks like the process was developed by a senior committee

[@ArmySigs]

Worse, an Army committee :D

[@mottthehoople693]

it works quickly

[@liongod1000]

Who could never really agree on anything and then gave the patent designs to the Americans for free which in turn modernised the whole shebang with hydraulics and put Scammel out of business........... Sad how the WHOLE British Motor Industry was sold out to the Europeans and the Americans (Here's the TRUE story of the BMI kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGrdpYiiq8psoMU

[@tridbant]

Don’t they wear gloves?

[@markrainford1219]

This is gripping stuff. Onto part 3.

[@alexalexandre3603]

Demora muito esse transporte, hoje tem sedex 10

[@andrewrcmadwilkinson6999]

ARE THOSE GUN PLANKS FROM IKEA?

[@peteb2]

As i watched this video a voice said... "chrickey, the war would be over by the time anything was loaded"....

[@mikeymarmalade]

He said 10 minutes. Your attention span is short so it would be difficult for you. Wake up!

[@axeman6560]

Second tank is a Crusader?

[@nunyabizness199]

I think me ex- wife had one of those snatch blocks...

[@user-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzxxxxx]

Очень высокий центр тяжести, перевернётся на первом косогоре

[@davidpeters6536]

Front wheel skid pans do what?

[@billwinship3734]

Give massive addirional traction

[@simontaylor2319]

What happened to hydrolics?. Only the army could afford so much manpower, oaid for by the taxpayer. Why isn't the tank driven onto the lorry?

[@ramairgto72]

I sooner burn the tank to the ground if I had to do this under fire. Add a Welsh accent to this ---> "Fock This Noise, lets burn the blimy thing"

[@tvanb8729]

Wow, the world before hydraulics sucked monkeyballs. But I do think the british came up with A LOT of unnecessary mechanical crap that was alsmost engineered to be hard to use and impossible to mantain.

[@keithwelton]

If in doubt just use more men. Modern truck drivers must laugh at films like this.

[@fatbloke2285]

im one of them but im not laughing. nothing but admiration for them fellas. that really is complicated. thank god for hydrolics.!! ha!

[@nealmorris495]

Yep its well known they have no sense of humour or work appreciation

[@whazzat8015]

i guess they were unafraid of cables snapping

[@DraftySatyr]

Yes, I was wincing at where the NCO was stood for the winching operation.

[@waynebrinker8095]

British steel. Both senses of the word.

[@liongod1000]

"As Though as Old Boots"!!

[@chrishare3981]

What if the tracks were damaged?

[@princeofcupspoc9073]

Drag.

[@billwinship3734]

The winch strong enough to drag up onto trailer anyway.

[@acersalman8258]

very beautiful wonderful good ❤

[@jstbig1]

I wouldn't want to pull that cable with no gloves on.

[@Dog.soldier1950]

Using bare hands on cable and cold steel!

[@BeechSportBill]

...simple as a Hollywood Divorce!!!

[@fffrankthetankkk]

The Rwamp and the Tyank ....