Scanf scansets, and reading a CSV file in C (fixed)

[@greg4367]

After fifty years of programming in C, I've NEVER used scanf. After this wonderful tutorial I remain convinced never to bother with it at all.

[@unperrier5998]

Fifty years, wow you must be retired by now.

[@aaaowski7048]

if you dont use scanf, then you read from stdin, right? do you use the "read" function then?

[@edgeeffect]

The only time I've ever had to parse input data in C (that sort of shenanigans I usually do in Ruby, PHP, Python, etc) I was lucky enough that it was originally written in the age of Cobol and had fixed length fields with no delimiters. :) ... in 30ish years I might have used sscanf a couple of times... maybe.

[@Bolvarsdad]

@@aaaowski7048 The idiomatic way to take input in C is to allocate a buffer and use fread. Whether you allocate it dynamically or statically doesn't matter, if it's dynamically you can just increase the size of the buffer as your input grows, if you allocate it statically you just consume the remaining characters. You can, as you say, use the read function, nothing wrong with that. You'd simply allocate a buffer as usual, and pass a 0 to read as it represents the stdin file descriptor in unix. char buffer[200]; int input; input = read(0, buffer, 200); Be sure that you pass the same size to read as you've allocated to your buffer, else you risk buffer overflow.

[@aaaowski7048]

​@@Bolvarsdad Hate to be "that" guy Especially after being the one to ask for clarifications But i just noticed Neither read() or fread() null-terminates the resulting string. So you would need to make char buffer[200+ 1] ; To leave room for the '\0' since its stdin we're talking about. And if you dont terminate your strings manually, it may be a good idea. Only global and static arrays declared on the stack are guaranteed to be set to 0 automatically in C. There is also a "shorthand" notation to initialize local arrays allocated on the stack- whenever you initialize an array with only one element, the rest of the array is filled with 0's. So you could have void fn () { int array[100] = {1}; //inits the array to {1, 0, 0, ... 0} }

[@wendolinmendoza517]

What I don't like about your solution (which is very good) is that you didn't take into account the risk of reading a potentially infinite string, which is always a security issue when dealing with input. I would have liked that you address it. Very well explained, as always!

[@kermitdafrog8]

That will probably be another video.

[@edgeeffect]

He did! And then he said "but I'm leaving it out for simplicity".

[@zannefagerstrom5411]

I ran into a problem using scan sets or regular expressions reading a CSV file. scanf wouldn't cope with an asterix in the data

[@k3v1n0x90]

Interesting feature of scanf It looks kind of like regex 😅

[@GameBacardi]

I see first time in this channel this '≠' sign. Keyboard not have that "mark" in buttons by default. But it means this !=, right ?

[@ajinkyakamat7053]

Yes. Google programming font ligature.

[@ramadhanafif]

Yup, I think he's using FiraCode font

[@kermitdafrog8]

Some IDE's will change != to the new single character.

[@bart2019]

That's a very dubious way to parse CSV files, ignoring the real difficulties with quoted values, especially when these contain newlines or a quote (represented by 2 quotes in a row).

[@gerdsfargen6687]

The last video was broken? Seemed ok to me?

[@AMathMonkey]

The code for reading anything but a comma and a newline was previously "%[^,^ ]", but the second ^ was a bug which would have caused the ^ character to be treated the same as a comma or a newline. Someone left a comment demanding that it be fixed and the video reuploaded. I think it could have been minor enough to be addressed by a note in the description, but Jacob was nice enough to actually remake the video like the commenter requested.

[@sirmokona]

that's C for you

[@gerdsfargen6687]

@@AMathMonkey thank you for clearing up.

[@gerdsfargen6687]

@@AMathMonkey Jacob is an exceptional teacher.

[@Jacob-qx4bc]

what happens when the last iteration of the code is run with a file that has values separated by a comma and a space?

[@wendolinmendoza517]

The space will be read as part of items

[@maxaafbackname5562]

Why not: ./example2 < input.csv ? The cat (process) is unnecessary here.

[@31redorange08]

Another reupload needed.

[@philpeko1796]

@@31redorange08 Totally! (I am the culprit having claimed to reuploading. AAMOF, there are other reasons for asking a reupload...)

[@edgeeffect]

I've been using Unix since the 80s and I still type cat ..... pipe and then silently repeat your comment to myself..... and then do exactly the same thing next time.

[@joshlengel3743]

It's Captain, Captain Jack Sparrow