Sega Blast City Arcade w/ Naomi 2 NetBoot Setup

[@Fattydeposit]

Badass video and cabinet setup. Too cool.

[@ScarletSprites]

Thanks man, much appreciated!

[@markocoric9233]

@@ScarletSprites cool man play some hokuto no ken guilty gear mvc2 and others I need some Gameplay

[@markocoric9233]

@@ScarletSprites I subed waiting on new arcade madness some Gameplay!

[@dauntless78]

This is what I'm talking about! Absolutely the best cab I've ever seen. Badass. I love it.

[@chalupa3002]

your videos have been so on point for my recent interests. Keep up the great work!!!

[@ScarletSprites]

Thanks Jeremy!

[@Red5.]

Sweet setup, really interesting how you fixed the monitor.

[@ScarletSprites]

Yeah those strips were a blessing. Had to setup a full length mirror in front of me to see what effect sliding the strips had on the monitor. I kind of hit a point where I was getting minimal gain though, so I gave it up after getting it to an acceptable state.

[@Vectrex4Life]

Great video! I have a pair of Initial D Arcade Stage 2 machines and before I bought them, I had no idea net booting was even a thing. So when I discovered it, it blew my mind, haha. Both of my Naomi 2s already had NetDimms, so it was very cheap to set up. I've still been doing it the old fashion way with a laptop, but it's so awesome to be able to play Club Kart European Session, The King of Route 66, Crazy Taxi and others. Even non-racing games are somewhat playable without changing any controls, like Airline Pilots. I'd like to get one of the Naomi 2s going in my Neo Geo MVS 4 slot, provided I get a JAMMA I/O or make adapters for a type 1 I/O.

[@ScarletSprites]

Oh man, I’d love to be able to have a multi racing machine. That sounds awesome! Other than Virtua Racing (which is on the mend) I don’t have controls or anything to begin a setup. I’d love a Crazy Taxi arcade machine.

[@Zanardao]

Pretty cool setup! Beautiful machine. Nice video, as always.

[@ScarletSprites]

Thanks for stopping by again Bruno!

[@ren7a8ero]

I dream to have a setup like this someday... Amazing solution!

[@ScarletSprites]

It’s kind of a pain to get all of the parts together, but once you have everything it’s a pretty easy and sweet setup. I like the flexibility of being able to swap games quickly in a cab.

[@blake6615]

All I can say is WOW. Nice work

[@ScarletSprites]

I really should revisit this video. It’s a pretty slick setup but also temperamental at times.

[@blake6615]

It's awesome! Monitor looks great also

[@Shadowbann3d]

Love the look of these Sega cabinets, I remember seeing them appearing in the arcades a bit later into the 90s and thinking how futuristic they looked lol. Would love one of these at home - the complicated looking wiring and know-how required to set up and maintain them is daunting though!

[@ScarletSprites]

The JVS and Naomi NetBoot setup required some reading, for sure. I should link more things in the description after this weekend is over. It’s a pain even assembling all of the parts, but once it’s all wired you’re good to go.

[@XxBishop78]

AndyS alot of candy cabs are jamma so there actually very easy to use and understand,this guys got a much more compplicated yet badass setup but just plugging in cps2 or neo geo mvs arent very hard to get the hang of

[@ScarletSprites]

The Astro City I have is Jamma wired, and the Blast is JVS. If a cab is already Jamma wired you’re good to go, easy to just plug the board in. For a Naomi you want it to be JVS wired and you’re going to need an I/O board as well.

[@XxBishop78]

Scarlet Sprites ya i had a ok baby that i wish i had back,love your blast city and astro,very cool man

[@Shadowbann3d]

jesse lockwood Thanks - yeah I've heard previously that the Jamma setups are actually fairly straightforward (despite not looking so at a first glance by a novice!) - when I saw Joe's vid I was thinking that I wouldn't know where to start!😐 Perhaps if/when I do venture into a cab project of my own I will start with a Jamma wired setup 👍🏻

[@tebgttg]

I can't wait until I get my blast city! Now to find a Naomi 2

[@ScarletSprites]

It’ll change your life. The Naomi 2 netboot setup is pricy up front but pretty much sets you up for good.

[@barryklinedinst6233]

There should be controls on the crt board to adjust your convergence, and rings to adjust also.

[@ScarletSprites]

There’s a pincushion and parallel adjustment but those don’t solve just that one corner. Believe me, I’ve tried. The rings and yoke would be next, but man, what a dark path to go down. Once you’ve played with the rings you can really be in for it. Think I’m satisfied with the convergence strips tbh.

[@snorlaksen]

I really love the design of the candy cabs. A blast city is for sale at my area right now, if i just had the money it could be cool to have :)

[@ScarletSprites]

I’ve only ever seen one candy cabinet for sale close to me. They seem to be so rare on the East Coast, with the exception of maybe Florida.

[@futureskeletons66669]

You've reminded me of my stupidity at turning a bunch of cheap Naomi cabs down when a local arcade got rid of most of its games.

[@ScarletSprites]

All of those candy cabs are probably selling for 10x what they unloaded them for. Even Blast Cities have tripled in some cases in five years. It’s gotten wild.

[@hdlivemodels]

Just found your channel. I currently have a dedicated mvc2 naomi 1 in a dynamo showcase cab. Finding replacement parts for the 33" sharper image monitor is getting expensive. I'm not well versed in the arcade world honestly but I do like this netboot option for the naomi. Would upgrading to the naomi 2 to be the best option or will the naomi 1 still be ok for most of the library via netboot? And what would be your suggestion on either and LCD upgrade for my cabinet or good quality different cabinet recommendation. Thanks.

[@HyperTriggerEx]

Great video Joe. I got to be honest I'd love some form or arcade set up, even if it's a bartop running a PC and emulation. The issue I have is space, or and lack of it. Well if I ever move to a bigger place Its definitely something I'll look into getting. Thanks for sharing dude :)

[@ScarletSprites]

Thanks Dylan. I think a Pi in a little bartop would be pretty great. I’ve seen some decent models lately, those seem to be very popular right now.

[@Shadowbann3d]

dylan craven Take a look at these Bartops running Hyperspin: www.tinyarcademachines.com/mame-arcade-machines.html I used to have one myself, they're pretty decent and there's more games on them than you'll ever be able to play! Not sure where you are but the guy who makes them is in the UK but I believe he ships them worldwide. They're pretty expensive though but run flawlessly, the only downsides are that the artwork offered for the sides is not great (just individual stickers stuck on rather than the whole side panel being offered as one piece of art). The other thing I didn't like was that when one of the micro switches for a button got stuck and needed replacing I discovered that all the wiring connections had been soldered (rather than crimped connectors being used which would be a lot easier to swap over).

[@DatGameCollector]

Cool video man, one day I hope to own a few cabs mainly Sega cabs. And a MVS

[@DatGameCollector]

Scarlet Sprites for sale?

[@Elkplaysandpaints]

That's really cool how you use a Pi to switch games through the network interface. Were these network boards made to obtain new games from the internet like when you download a game on a console?

[@ScarletSprites]

There were games released later in the systems life cycle that used the network feature, mostly football/soccer games I believe. Flash forward to present and crafty people have been able to capitalize and make use of the method for almost the entire library.

[@Elkplaysandpaints]

Scarlet Sprites Oh, I see. I thought it was like NESICAXLIVE, but that makes sense for the time.

[@evanb4466]

Is it ok if I ask you some questions about the Naomi NetBoot? I’m about to attempt this myself and need some help.

[@ScarletSprites]

You can, I can't promise I'll be able to assist. Everything I know about netbooting I pretty much learned from the Arcade-Projects forum.

[@evanb4466]

Ok, first is 3.3V at 8A, 5V at 10A and 12V at 5A ok power wise for netbooting? Second what model raspberry pi do I get and how do I attach an sd card to it? Lastly can a Sega io board control analog games? Or do I need something special to do that?

[@shaveice8223]

Yo this is sick. Definitely interested in getting one for my garage. That monitor maintenance looks scary tho 😂

[@ScarletSprites]

I’m probably going to need to recap it and then have at it again because it’s drifted a little more since this video was made.

[@shaveice8223]

@@ScarletSprites ah ok. Definitely gonna need to do some research as I'm unfamiliar with a lot of this stuff

[@racer4200]

That blast is so clean! I have a tri-sync in one of my Astros. But unfortunately the green went out. So bummed as I mainly used it to use with my Dreamcast via VGA. Someday I'll get it fixed. Awesome video man.

[@ScarletSprites]

Yikes. Any leads on what that is? That would drive me crazy.

[@racer4200]

@@ScarletSprites No leads yet. I'll probably have to take it somewhere or just replace it. These things are very complicated inside. Way more than an MS8 or MS9 which I've been able to fix in the past. #crtproblems lol

[@CementRoots]

@Scarlet Sprites I've never had the luck of playing one of these machines.... is it comfortable to sit at?... what is the height from the top control panel to the floor??.... let me know if you can, thanks

[@ScarletSprites]

It’s about 26in from floor to top of control panel. There are a variety of options for seating, a lot of people use stools or benches. There are even stools made by arcade manufacturers with candy cabs in mind. This is how Japan rolls.

[@CementRoots]

@@ScarletSprites thank you very much for the reply.... I hope to someday get to play a real candy cab.... but for now I might build a sit down machine.... again thanks for the reply.... have an awesome new year....

[@slimofbonar1978]

nice cab

[@ScarletSprites]

Thanks man! It’s a pretty decent machine even with the geometry issues.

[@DoinStuff4Life]

The support list link is dead :(

[@ScarletSprites]

Yeah, the forum was reorganized but that thread is still there. Good to know people are still looking at this stuff and reading descriptions! www.arcade-projects.com/threads/sega-naomi-netboot-games-list-working-not-working-untested-missing.15076/

[@cutseencinematics]

what game is shown at 0:55?

[@ScarletSprites]

Neo Geo Battle Coliseum.

[@MrVestek]

Hey there. Got a Blast City myself a few months ago and thinking of picking up a Naomi 2 board with NetDimm myself at some point soon. My cab is currently wired up for JAMMA only though it seems. Any chance you could point me towards the correct wiring harness that I'd need for this kind of service? Thanks in advance!

[@ScarletSprites]

The short answer is you need an I/O board, I use the Capcom I/O. The longer answer is you should check out wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/JVS for the details on what is actually happening with all the connections.

[@sagesgamer1638]

man i need any candy cab

[@Nbakillagorilla]

Where did you get that case for the pi?

[@ScarletSprites]

I actually bought it second hand years ago. I unfortunately don’t know where that person got it from.

[@DJAlexUnderBase]

Thank you ! A new adventure It's about to start !

[@ScarletSprites]

Always a pleasure Alex!

[@DJAlexUnderBase]

me too sir !

[@joncarlos716]

Play one of these in Mexico in a hotel there were 4 of these can’t remember if it was Blast or Astro city.

[@energyzer_bunny1913]

Good stuff once again! Random question, what resolution does Metal Slug 6 run in? 240p or 480p?

[@ScarletSprites]

It’s 480p at 31khz, pretty sharp on the monitor.

[@zombie343]

How is your blast city so ....clean/white/well-kept? I'm in the market for one but can't seem to find one that doesn't look like urine. Is there a way to de-yellow the cabs? Thanks!

[@ScarletSprites]

I think I was pretty fortunate with this one. I didn’t do much outside of a general cleaning and some other cosmetic things with the artwork and marquee lamp. I believe most people who are super serious about restoration tear these apart and repaint them themselves or ask an auto body dealer to do so. Since they are fiberglass I don’t believe a lot of the typical de-yellowing techniques work.

[@zombie343]

Scarlet Sprites thank you for your insight. Please sell me a new net city and blast city. Thanks :)

[@junmendero5396]

do you need a zero key pic for this? I keep reading that you don't need one if you're using a Raspberry setup but mine gives me Error 33 after the "Loading Game Now" screen. I actually get to load the game but it reboots immediately to Error 33.

[@ScarletSprites]

I am using one in mine. I have never booted without it to see what happens, but yes, I believe you need that.

[@_Tizoc_]

Do you run a second power supply for the Naomi?

[@ScarletSprites]

No, I actually haven’t needed to. I know some people struggle with that but I’ve been ok.

[@_Tizoc_]

@@ScarletSprites Is there a way to adjust the blast psu?

[@ScarletSprites]

Yes, I believe there is a pot on the board for this although I’ve never had mine open.

[@ovalfastlx6724]

Are the Blast City locks OG or repro? If repro, any chance you can let us know where to get them? THANKS, love the vids

[@ScarletSprites]

They came with the cab, I'm assuming they are original. Sorry!

[@modology]

nice. How i wish there is a way to do netboot or multicart for Atomiswave board which in my humble opinion, although not as powerful as naomi board, it does have small foot print, fan is quieter and there are some great games line up such as KOF11, MetalSlug6,Neogeo Battle Coliuseum etc...

[@ScarletSprites]

I do like the Atomiswave boards, although I don’t have one. I replaced the two small fans on my Naomi with Sunons, and I recently picked up a quieter case fan for the board from JNX.

[@TheMrMaynard]

Man just watching this Joe temps me to start looking, but I need to slow down. I have a back log already to stream and with the Neo Geo MVS-1C AND Turbo Grafx 16 in, there will be plenty to watch on twitch.

[@ScarletSprites]

I hear you. I’ve been telling myself no to a few things lately. I think we are both pretty set for the short term for sure.

[@OppenedDark]

*FIXED* Hey I got given a blast city cabinet recently as a birthday present, but I can only get a scrambled image from the VGA port with my PC connected, would you have any clue what might need to be fixed or adjusted? or can i not plug directly into the chasis with a pc? Thanks

[@OppenedDark]

Forced the resolution of the PC to 640x480 and its FIXED!

[@ScarletSprites]

That could be several things. I’d check to see if the monitor is an autosync or not. It may help to read some of this thread to see if any of it sounds familiar... forum.arcadeotaku.com/viewtopic.php?t=10513

[@itamarazulai6767]

Impressive setup, i wish i could have astro/ blast candy cabe...

[@ScarletSprites]

Thanks! It was a pain to assemble all the parts and hook up, but it was worth it in the end.

[@itamarazulai6767]

Can the netdimm be used on naomi 1 mobo?

[@ScarletSprites]

Yes, it just has to be firmware v4.01 or v4.02

[@itamarazulai6767]

Scarlet Sprites Thanks

[@mailson4526]

Hi I love it to this day My Naomi netboot kit, but i still have a little problem in some fighting games when the fight is over for ex in CvS when the fight is over, the winning sentences cant be seen, its all misspell out of sense. Is there a way to fix this?

[@ukrs]

Hi. May I ask your opinion about this try sync Blast City monitors? Do they die quite often? I am about to buy a Blast City, and I don't have free time to maintenance. The guy has 2 Blasts. One with original monitor and tube not working (when you turn it on you can hear a "click" and no image shows up. And the other one with a Philips European consumer RGB Tv inside. What would you go for? I am going to use only a Mister Fpga on that. Thanks a lot =)

[@ScarletSprites]

I’d still be interested in the tri sync because of the flexibility it gives you. I’d pull the chassis and send it to ArcadeCup for repairs.

[@ukrs]

@@ScarletSprites Thanks for helping =)

[@ukrs]

@@ScarletSprites Just bought it. I am so happy I'm gonna have a candy in my house. Let's see if I can fix that monitor.

[@mrchineseable]

Looking to build my own setup but only room for one. Any recommendations on which can to start with if the goal is to wire it for cps2/3 and Naomi? Is that too ambitious?

[@ScarletSprites]

I’m sure there is a way to do that with an adapter of some kind, I’m just not certain what that is though. Naomi is JVS and CPS2/3 is Jamma, so you’re looking at two different standards.

[@Sam-Lawry]

Hi, I just bought one today. So..to connect a pc with safety..I need a specific standar on the graphic card and set up to have a pixel perfect. I will also use a jamma board..a jamma/jvs adaptator is all I need (with select the 15 khz..if that s not auto). Stuff about connectors..pc hyperspin will be helpfull. Thanks.

[@ScarletSprites]

Congrats on grabbing a Blast, they’re pretty great machines. I honestly don’t know much about PC builds or running them in a cabinet. The closest I’ve come is using a Pi2Jamma with a Pi 3, and my experience wasn’t all that great unfortunately.

[@Sam-Lawry]

@@ScarletSprites thanks..on pi3..Deathsmiles...kof 2002 u.m..cotton 2 running? Probably just deathsmiles.

[@ScarletSprites]

I don’t know that I’ve tried any of those personally. The Pi 3b+ has limitations obviously on games that require beefier hardware. I can confirm the earlier Cave shooters work such as Dodonpachi, Espgaluda, and Ketsui.

[@Sam-Lawry]

Thanks...my favorites are horizontals..like Deathsmiles..Progear...but Guwange is great to. I use a chuwi cheap android box with mame..it's fine for progear and guwange...but sadly no deathsmiles..cotton 2...and kof 2002 u.m...

[@ArcadeOne]

Hey man, can you break down how you have the Naomi connected? I’m looking at getting a Naomi/NetDimm/PiForce setup but have received conflicting information as to how to integrate everything into my Blast. Some say I can use the PSU from the blast, others say I need a separate PSU. I’ve also been told I need a Capcom or Sega JVS to JAMMA I/O board. The Capcom one has a built in amp the Sega one doesn’t etc etc. I do have the 001 JVS loom for my Blast.

[@ScarletSprites]

The Blast is JVS wired and I use a Capcom I/O board to connect to the Naomi. I’ve been running off of the stock PSU, but like you, I’ve heard that others have had to source additional power. That has thankfully never been an issue for me though.

[@ArcadeOne]

Scarlet Sprites nice, so you’re running sound in mono through the Capcom I/O or do you bypass it for sound?

[@ScarletSprites]

Just rolling with mono. I had intended to get an amp and bypass it but quite honestly forgot about it until you brought it up today. Guess it hasn’t bothered me that much!

[@ArcadeOne]

@@ScarletSpritesha, well the Blast has a built in stereo amp. I would think you could bypass the Capcom I/O and go straight to that but I have no idea really. I don't have any of the hardware yet to really see how it all interconnects.

[@LodanZark]

I just got curious to know which joystick and buttons came on the system by default, nice set up you got there ;)

[@ScarletSprites]

Thanks man. Defaults were Sanwa JLF sticks and buttons. It’s a Sanwa mount on the control panel, but I have been able to get Seimitsu LS-32 sticks on the same mount on my Astro City.

[@segasonic9117]

I am about to buy a full Naomi2 set up for my Blast. Is it possible to have this set up and still use JAMMA boards at the same time? I want the VF4 games which are quite cheap, I am also wondering what the Naomi Dynamite Deka EX game is like. It never got a home port. I played Dynamite Deka to death on my Saturn back in 1996 and also loved the SEGA AGES PS2 version. The second game on the DC was OK, but I never fell in love with it like the first game. Have you played EX?

[@ScarletSprites]

I’ve played EX, it’s ok but not something that I often have loaded up. The Naomi uses JVS wiring with an I/O converter, so you’ll have to do some switching to go back and forth between that and Jamma. I also have my monitor connected via VGA, so that’s something else to consider.

[@amstrick6737]

I'm about to install the same set up. How are you powering the NetDimm? I know there isn't enough power from the Capcom I/O so are you wiring directly to the Blast City power supply? If so, what cables did you use to do that? Thanks for the advice!

[@ScarletSprites]

The NetDIMM itself just plugs into the Naomi and runs fine. If you meant the actual RetroPie, I have a power cord running via extension and that plugs directly into an extra outlet on the back of the power supply unit.

[@amstrick6737]

@@ScarletSprites Awesome, thanks for the advice!

[@TheBosc]

What is the cheapest price for this?

[@ScarletSprites]

Oh man, that’s tough to say because there are so many parts to this; the Naomi 2 board, the NetDimm, the Pi Zero, and then the cab itself. You’re probably looking at $450+ for the board and dimm if you land a deal with someone on a forum. Otherwise, expect to pay more.

[@Charlie-Cat.]

I personally never played on a Sega Blast City before Scarlet. But I heard great things about it for sure. After seeing this video, I can see why. Very educational for all of us to enjoy bro. Loved it from A to Z. 8^) Anthony..

[@ScarletSprites]

Thanks Anthony, I can always rely on you to stop by. Much appreciated.

[@m3th0d84]

Could you plug a PC into it?

[@ScarletSprites]

I’m sure that you can, in fact I’m certain that was the old way of doing this before PiForce Tools came out. I’ve never experimented with that however, so I can’t comment too much about setup. The Pi is nice because it’s compact and easily integrated.

[@m3th0d84]

@@ScarletSprites Ah okay, I live in Japan so these things aren't too hard to get. Might go with a PI for one then. Thanks

[@XxBishop78]

Send the chassis to the gameroom,ive seen you already know who they are,hes got my 2931 chassis right now,such a great cab you may wanna leave that to a pro but it looks damn good to me

[@ScarletSprites]

Yeah, at this point I’m just leaving it as is. Unless it gets woefully terrible I’m leaving well enough alone.

[@XxBishop78]

@@ScarletSprites i dont blame you man i would too

[@Sam-Lawry]

If you use a pc vga 31 khz with the same games it's the same no? For some jamma,ok,the real and emulation are not 100/100 accurate,but with 'modern' games they are closer to pc,like naomi,taito type x,so with a pc you should have exactly the same. I will built a nice pc hyperspin (or retroarch,mame,recalbox)in 640x480p,what's the better option (i3,i5..3,6ghz..4/8 go ram..ssd..hdd..Windows 7..10..?). It's just to play classic 15 khz with scanlines and 31 khz naomi,atomiswave,taito type X,terrordrome,sf4,trouble witches neo.. Maybe also a Xbox360 glitch on my Blast city in vga to have all japanese xboxlive arcade iso and retroarch if that possible. Real jamma are really expensive today...specially when you prefer play than collect now. Thanks if you can show what s the better and cheaper config pc to use to have the best experience. (I'm new with hyperspin).

[@ScarletSprites]

Software emulation will only ever be as good as the programming, regardless of the hardware used. That said, I really can't give recommendations for PCs or Hyperspin because I just never use either for arcade gaming. Hyperspin seems to have gained in popularity so I'm sure there are people and forums out there who can get you started.

[@Sam-Lawry]

@@ScarletSprites Thanks. Now,with Ati cards,soft 15 khz,Groovy mame..you can have a real pixel perfect on a arcade cabinet with a pc and jammasd. kzbin.info/www/bejne/anLJiZSvZdiBrdE I have a old pc in 15 khz but not enough power to play Cotton 2,Deathsmiles..so I try to make one in 31 khz vga to play Naomi..Atomiswave.. I compared the real pcb jamma with 15khz emulation and..it's the same for 95/100 of the games,the rest is just visible if you play the game in a rean pro way or with difficult hardware to emulate. Now my Hyperspin 31 khz is fine with pc monitor and usb arcade stick..but not yet on jammasd vga. Anyway,thanks. You can try just the easy way..a raspberry with a 15khz image of recalbox,retroarch..with Pi2jamma or other jamma..gpio scart rgb 320x240p 60hertz adaptor..is cheap and easy now..with that..from Mario bros to mvs cps3..pgm...(and soon much more with the raspberry 4).

[@gareth2250]

wow

[@nobodytonobodysbusiness]

What a clean Blast City. Most look like shit.

[@splugereport]

Bored of that blast city yet? Sell me sell me sell me!!!! :)