Scary Onewheel GT Ghosting Caught on Camera

[@freshlycharged]

To be clear, the last clip with the kid is a parody: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYSmeKGkf8ScZqM

[@JCharIie]

I love the ending tho! Ahahah

[@DannyVdesign]

I am ashamed to have used your fake ghosting clip in my GT mashup video, and for assuming you would endanger a kids safety for youtube clicks! This is the first time a KZbin comment that said Fake News turned out to be accurate!

[@abelinkinxvi1735]

For as expensive as they are, this is plain unacceptable and incredibly damaging to their brand. Fall off the cliff compared to the XR feedback, which I have owned. Im still in awe that this is an issue, but glad to see the right to repair discussion is happening, requesting action and deserving adequate response.

[@makatron]

Yeah they sure talk a lot about safety when defending their anti right to repair policies but then they're sending these faulty ones to costumers.

[@bluefrog12345]

That falling off a cliff part you mentioned isn't hyperbole either. I ride on mountain bike trails and some of the paths are only 1-3 feet from the edge of really steep sides. I was thinking about upgrading to the GT until seeing all these problems and boards bricking if you tinker with them.

[@kiraasuka9943]

People will forget. Same as Tesla and all other techie things. So many paranoid fsd/quality issue video online but people just forget/ignore. Nice play until someone sue them but for public company they don't care as long as they can convince their shareholders they still make money. Again you should NOT give trust to something you do not 100% understand until some insurances cover it. Early adoptors pay the price.

[@ev6558]

Every single video I'm seeing of this "ghosting" is people jumping hard off the top while they are still in motion. Pretty sure that's not how you're supposed to get off of them. People trying to cause a problem just to get KZbin famous.

[@tardme]

@@ev6558 literally only one (1, uno, один) example shown in this vid was of a board in motion, and even that's not an excuse anyway!

[@LemonySnicket-EUC]

Imagine how much easier this would be with Right to Repair.

[@connorevanburdett]

What does right to repair have to do with ghosting?

[@nkhockey09]

@@connorevanburdett , you wouldn't have to rely on a company that refuses to address the problem and could use a independent repair expert . They are making them where you can't even replace your own battery... lol I can be certified to work on aerospace electronics and powerplants.... however soldering a few wires is "endangering" the public and renders the board unusable via electronic bricking. In all seriousness someone could have designed their own kill switch / interupter that could be activated wirelessly as a fail safe rather cheap.... but yeah ..... the company are dicks

[@connorevanburdett]

@@nkhockey09 that still has nothing to do with ghosting. There is a footpad issue and they’re replacing defective ones. You can go try to fix your own footpad all you want nobody is stopping you.

[@SoulKingBK]

@@nkhockey09 mom and pop to amazon real quick

[@NappyWayz]

It would still ghost. If FM had local partnerships, they could fix it sooner. However, RTR wouldn’t solve this flaw.

[@shen9871]

Thank you for your video Jimmy. Your video helped convince me to cancel my order. I accept the risks of me being hurt, but I can't afford for my board flying 25 mph hurting a person / pet or property. The board ghosting and hurting someone else is more terrifying for me than nose diving at full speed. Thank you for your great video Jimmy.

[@kiraasuka9943]

As an EUC rider I have a dog lash on my wheel, you can do the same. I got a thick one that can hanlde large dogs

[@greenwave819]

@@kiraasuka9943 I have a large dog and am in need of a leash to borrow. could you help? It's just for a couple hours so I can give him a bath and walk him afterward.

[@GMoney-B]

@@kiraasuka9943 ha! I actually had this idea too. My original thought was a lanyard like on a surf board to huge ankle but 10 seconds later I realized that would be a bad idea when you see your femur getting towed away making a wood sounding “plunk plunk plunk” sound.

[@venonat80]

Everyone who bought the first batch deserves to have their boards shipped back at no cost to fix, a new foot pad or the option to refund it regardless of their return policy. I have the GT, first batch, but I would not have bought this with all the issues out there.

[@DG-xj7pm]

Ok, what defines the 2nd batch? Cause I'm getting a replacement next week 😆

[@NickLangMedia]

Yeah how do we know what batch we have

[@donnyh3497]

Yeah. I preordered because I wanted one as soon as possible and preorders help fund the process of getting them to market. The downside of preorders is getting the first ones before all of the bugs are worked out. Those of us who got them early should definitely be able to get them fixed for free

[@greenwave819]

Sadly, even with American companies, first batches of EVs are often pre-mature.

[@redboyjan]

Same at XR launch, recalled boards

[@vietnguyen2354]

OneWheel: It's a feature

[@JoshSarwono]

hahahahahahaha

[@vertigev]

😅 😅

[@tenaciousfpv6874]

Lol. Depends which way your riding, I guess… *Simple Go

[@lionelhernandez34]

That's pretty disturbing, hopefully some resolve comes before someone gets seriously injured. The shot of the fence looking like a cannon ball went through it, pretty disheartening to imagine if that was some bystander or something.

[@ankieb3980]

@@imustbust998 buy a euc or E-Board they are infinitely better and cheaper

[@Ty-ye8rd]

@@imustbust998 yeah, I’ve seen those guys long videos and I’m not sure I buy it either. Seems like bad acting. People usually over explain things when they’re lying. Maybe not, but he seemed a bit weird about it all

[@undergroundcustomstoronto7493]

@I Must Bust 100%

[@Dethmothcreations]

@@imustbust998 My GT just ghosted through a 4" wooden fence and the only reason it stopped was my wedge pro's got caught on the fence so I believe it myself

[@pixelmator]

it's a law suit on one wheel... and strange how Future Motion claims that you can't service their product without them for "safety" concerns.

[@makatron]

It should be a class action suit from everyone that bought a GT board.

[@NoNORADon911]

Its becoming the wild west of F.U. so don't count on anybody being held liable

[@makatron]

@@NoNORADon911 once someone gets seriously injured they'll come

[@kiraasuka9943]

So the question is If someone dead after a 3rd party repair, who will take the responsibility? The owner, the manufacturer or the 3rd party repair? Idk but I'm pretty sure lawyers love the right to repair bill as the only clear winner

[@lrc87290]

Ghosting One Wheel seriously injures someone. Can the plaintiff prove the company had knowledge of this problem? Did the company alert all owners to stop riding the board until a fix could be determined and implemented for all models affected? Hmmmmm.

[@redboyjan]

Got to be joking haven't ya. This is FM

[@redboyjan]

They don't even test their products

[@mechwar31]

Relentless shred shop is the guy in the montage who burned his middle finger. He did a follow-up video on his channel wherein he identifies what could be a pretty serious design flaw which may be causing the ghosting on the GT sensor pad. The new sensor pad is shaped kind of like a clover. (I don't recall exactly who, but one of the SLS shops did a video peeling the grip tape off to show the sensor) This shape combined with the fact that the griptape doesn't completely cover the edges of the sensor means that on the front two corners of the pad there are holes where water dirt dust can get under the grip tape and get wedged in the creases on the clover-shaped sensor pad.

[@MrThomasRico]

I had no idea that if you get a simple puncture on a Onewheel (or when the tire wears out) you need to send it to Onewheel in California to fix it. Same with the battery. Thing is... if the company ever goes out of business you can no longer get your Onewheel repaired due to all the anti-repair stuff the company engages in. Shame on them!

[@kevinhuggett8430]

That's what they want. That's not what happens. It's really simple to change your own tire and if you don't feel comfortable with it I'm sure there is a guy in your local group/groups that does it for pretty cheap and quick.

[@greenwave819]

it is a truly terrible company. They actually pay people to go out and bribe cops to try and pull over other EV riders. This is under the premise that only onewheels are legal, which is 100% false and none of these cops can write tickets, yet they still pull people over and try to intimidate them. This is real, and it's all because they claim patent rights on certain gyroscopic techs. Know your rights!!! don't let cops bully you. PEVs are the future!!!!!!

[@redboyjan]

Can't get a v1 or plus serviced. With locked down pint x and GT we will be left with dead boards with some errors. No chance I'll buy one of those two boards. In fact fcuk em, I'm out. Not giving my hard earned money to them cockwombles. #vesclife #ffm

[@the808life]

Some things not toohard. I seem have to plug my pint tire a couple times a year. It makes a little bump at first that disappears completely

[@markchoi5777]

FTR, this behaviour on the part of FM is blatantly illegal and will not stand up in court. To be clear, it is not only illegal for FM to void a warranty simply because a user opened their own property, made a repair, or even made modifications. It is also illegal for them to even claim that this voids the warranty. This is a blatant violation of the Magnuson Moss Act of 1975, which I suspect they are well aware of. If anyone finds themselves having warranty service denied for VnRs, adding third party accessories, etc., ask to speak to a supervisor, threaten them with the Magnuson Moss Act, and see what they say then! The only way to deal with this on a systemic, permanent level is for someone to form a class, gather litigants, and sue.

[@camo1276]

It's kinda crazy..I cancelled my onewheel gt order yesterday after waiting since I ordered in November and no questions asked. They didn't even try to retain me.

[@chibinyra]

I cancelled mine a few weeks ago and feel I dodged a bullet... literally.. But the money into my XR and thinking I should buy a second

[@Andrewkc1969]

I hate to break it to you, but there is not a single company that will try to convince you to keep your order when you cancel. You must be thinking of your cable TV provider.

[@NoNORADon911]

@@Andrewkc1969 Or car warranty service lol, those people will hunt you for years

[@camo1276]

@@Andrewkc1969 funny how you say there is no company that will try to retain you then immediately follow it with a type of company that does 🤦🏻‍♂️ congratulations. You played yourself 👏🏾

[@Andrewkc1969]

@@camo1276 Well, apparently you aren't smart enough to understand the difference between two industries. Let me spell it out for you: There is NO company selling goods, products, physical things you can hold in your hand, that will try to keep you from cancelling your order. However, companies that offer a service, such as cable, will almost always try to retain you. Additional information for the uneducated. You see, when someone cancels an order for a product, whoopie, it's one product sale. When someone tried to cancel a service, that's an ongoing revenue stream that they want to keep going. My apologies for not explaining what most people would understand.

[@RidingWithMau]

This is insane… But the worst part is the silence and concealment. Cause that’s a decision they make every day, even after seeing this unfold.

[@Burps___]

The lawsuits are going to sink this company so don’t buy any One Wheel unless you want to own an unwarrantied, no-available-parts relic from a defunct company.

[@Kay0Bot]

Warranty a joke anyways, riding up or down inclines and declines will void the warranty. You can't install parts without voiding warranty.

[@JonXuereb]

I hope it does sink them and they are forced to sell off their patents.

[@makatron]

@@JonXuereb that'd be awesome

[@RatherBeRestoring]

I’m glad I waited to order one. My Pint has just under 1k miles and I love it, never had an issue of any kind. I was really close to ordering a GT and decided to wait but I would have been so disappointed had I spent over $2k and had these issues or ANY issues with my BRAND NEW OW!! Someone is going to get their leg broken by one of these runaway boards at the very least.

[@NoNORADon911]

Lefty lunatics that run Ca don't care take a look around

[@Limitedtom643]

The first Gen Pint Is Solid

[@WizGave]

I've been wanting a Onewheel, and had planned to order one when spring finally comes around. This worries me, and the no-response from the company is really off-putting. Guess I'll find alternative methods of transport.

[@blise518B]

OneWheels are the slowest electric vehicles anyway. Pretty much every other Small electric vehicle for that price goes faster and further.

[@tismmm]

Have a look at EUCs, very fun but a different beast. You can enjoy them slow or fast. But it’s a bummer that FM is treating this issue like this.

[@greenwave819]

I would absolutely take a look at the v12 or Nikola+ EUCs. similar in price, way better in performance, also more legal in many places to ride as E-bike class

[@undergroundcustomstoronto7493]

Save yourself the trouble and get an EUC. 3x the range and so much more fun.

[@redboyjan]

Get a used modded XR. Superior anyway

[@shanesplanetshane3795]

WHY is FM handling this the way they are.... Money, plain and simple. What surprises me is that people still seem confused. The last clip was the best... love it.

[@myfakeguuglaccount8307]

They need to get their act together, and FAST. One good lawsuit from someone injured by this, and that company is in serious trouble.

[@BlackSheriff84]

Everyone should sue FM just like how FM sues all the third party accessories companies

[@MrSandman982]

Ghosting voids your warranty.

[@JoshSarwono]

lololol i dieded

[@makatron]

Lmao 🤣

[@tdrifty]

So glad these videos are coming to light. FM will never see another dime from me.

[@Infinite-Digital]

Scary stuff i hope FM fixes this

[@freshlycharged]

They will. Just wish they would do a better job communicating with their customers about a potentially dangerous defect.

[@j.reveille6815]

@@freshlycharged they need to fix not hiding things from their customers that can hurt their customers and people complete having nothing to do with a one wheel . On the wheel we assume some risk. Walking your Dog in the park you do not as it slams into you or whatever. Not cool FM. Not cool.

[@1world2coexist]

ALL buyers of the GTs should return their OW for this reason (ghosting) alone if FM is not gonna do a recall. FM will get overwhelmed by all these "repairs" then maybe they'll cave in to the "right to repair".

[@donnyh3497]

I absolutely love that thumbnail! I totally understand that there will always be bugs to work out on any new product. Preordering helps fund the whole process. Those who got them early should be able to send them in for a recall after they get the bugs worked out

[@asong26]

Class Action is the only way to go after them. Their inactions / shady behavior in the past is a proof that this is a profit-centric company which will not take admit to anything despite the abundance of evidence. They started the company with the public support (Kickstarter). This is a slap on the face for all those who supported them.

[@duncancarr7822]

Kyle invents the best device on earth. Everybody loves it. FM gets setup & they quickly become more aggressive than Apple. They lock down their product so you can't even change a fucking tyre without sending a 30lb lump (with a big lithium ion battery) back to their single repair centre. Then, about 5 minutes after they launch their latest GT this "ghosting" starts happening. I bet they are thinking to themselves how long it will be before they hear the news that a toddler has been killed by one. I would be having a series of heart attacks now if I was FM. So, in summary, a 30mph, 30lb child-killing missile that you not allowed to repair. Blimey, how did they get here?

[@weigg4705]

Would be nice if some one can gather the ghosting data: 1) when they order the board 2) number of people has the ghosting issue 3) how many people has new foot pad and fixed the issue 4) not fix after new footpad

[@Andrewkc1969]

I agree. Without some statistics, this is just people scaring others into not buying the board. One person in the video said it's a small percentage of the boards. Not sure what small means.

[@weigg4705]

Had have two GT now and both has no issue with ghosting, And I ride on Rocky Mountain trails. Both are not from the first batch.

[@DG-xj7pm]

@@weigg4705 how do you know what batch you have?

[@weigg4705]

I got my first GT 3/15, two three weeks before that people posting videos on KZbin.

[@mattwhoanderson9725]

Rip future motion. If they cared for us we would have their backs. We would have forgiveness and love. Buuuuuuut they chose to make it so we can’t fix them. They made themselves god forcing us to go to them for even a tire. They didn’t even give us good tire options. They deserve exactly what they are getting. So sad us customers have to pay the price. They took a beautiful thing and made it something very very ugly. The lawsuit they put on 3rd party so we could add better batteries was icing on a horrific cake

[@maciejburchardt7927]

Future Motion should be discredited by all means not only for this board issue but especially for lack of proper response and for downplaying this problem. I would never buy anything from any company who is acting like that.

[@Andrewkc1969]

Cancel culture is alive and well.

[@kiraasuka9943]

R u paying tax to the government? 🤣🤣🤣

[@duncancarr7822]

If I was FM, I'd see if I could figure out a way of removing the anti-repair situation, send these new (circuit) boards to everyone & allow them to get them installed wherever the heck they like. And they could cover the cost of the installations. And a big sorry too.

[@jaefrmbk2k]

THANK U JIMMY FOR YOUR SPOTLIGHT❗

[@freshlycharged]

Thank you!

[@Andrewkc1969]

I decided to write to Future Motion about the issue, since my board hasn't shipped yet and I'm trying to decide if I should cancel it or not. Based on the response I got (below) they seem to be taking the Apple approach (You're holding it wrong!) There seems to be some misinformation out there regarding issues with the new GT Footpads. It is important to remember that the best way to disengage any Onewheel is to slow down to a complete stop and lift your heel, or if Simplestop is turned on, slowly lean back and allow the board to place the tail on the ground and step off. If you need to jump off of a Onewheel, it should be done after slowing to a stop and jumping off with both feet. Stepping off the front footpad only, trying to disengage while braking hard, or jumping off and keeping one foot on the board can result in the board changing its angle abruptly, thinking the rider is trying to have the board accelerate hard in one direction. If that is done and then the rider steps off the board, it is possible for the board to accelerate for a few feet before the motor disengages. Although there have been a few confirmed cases of boards staying engaged, most reported concerns were tied to improper engagement. We have replaced any footpads that are believed to have issues and if you believe your footpad is detecting pressure after your foot has been removed, please let us know as we would like to evaluate your footpad to make sure there is nothing wrong with it and it is safe to use. If your footpad needs to be sent in for evaluation, we will send you a new footpad first to make sure you do not have any interruptions in riding.

[@Paul_Gale]

Ghost leash lmao a safety tether like a snowmobile or jet ski would eliminate ghosting and make it 100% safer in case a foot switch wears out or malfunctions.

[@JonXuereb]

I would not be surprised if legislation requiring one comes out

[@makatron]

So they've been selling faulty boards knowing the problem is most likely spread withing that entire first batch of boards, for over 2,000 dollars you'd expect them to test the boards before shipping them.

[@PumpkinKingXXIII]

So is one wheel replacing boards that are being damaged by ghosting death traps?

[@makatron]

If one starts ghosting towards traffic and catches fire you'll find it all over the internet for sure. It's matter of time.

[@friederek]

This had to be stopped right now. If there s gonna be a bad accident it is going to be a disaster for the community worldwide!

[@duh7048]

I just saw my first OneWheel commercial on tv during the UConn vs Stanford game but what’s funny is that it got cut off right as it started. I guess they can’t even get their own commercials to act right. 😂All jokes aside I hope they figure things out for everyone’s safety more then anything.

[@theone2be33]

Sooooo GLAD I CANCELLED MY GT ORDER!!!! SO HAPPY!!! I'M SO ECSTATIC!!! F' FM!!

[@phamster18]

this is a Serious Defect ! i agree it is best to send back and ask for REFUND... Terrible R and D, or Development conformation of Quality.. so glad i just ride EUC now... and many were so hyped on getting the NEW Bigger and Better OWGT...

[@RGMGFitness]

First, thank you for sharing Jimmy! Like yourself I've owned the OneWheel XR for years and it's a ton of fun to ride. Just became aware of Future Motions newest board the 'GT' and let's be honest. They should RECALL everyone of these boards based on these types of videos. This thing is a 35lb rocket when it takes off. And sooner or later it's going to run down a small child at the park (or where-ever). Like yourself, I've owned the OneWheel XR for a few years now (it's a blast to ride). HOWEVER, Future Motion has yet to step-up to the plate and address some safety concerns that are totally within their control. Obviously, with the XR it was the NOSE-DIVE situation. With this board it's the GHOSTING.....com'on Future Motion get in front of this and make sure the CONSUMER IS AWARE. Stop pretending and burring your head in the sand!

[@Pewpew4]

I don't think OneWheel can ignore this as a major issue for very long being that the riding community are excellent documenters.

[@TheBoardGarage]

Halloween came early this year.

[@bobbmerkinu1217]

I ride in Manhattan, I can't have ghosting issues, someone WILL get hurt

[@williamtexeira6671]

Thanks for da heads up Jimmy!!! I almost bought one🤯instead I bought a E-bike Aventon Sinch👌still got my XR🤙🏾 life is Pono😎

[@_Channel1_]

Disappointed in FM. My XR had a serious issue recently where it just shut off while in motion, resulting in me being thrown off. Would’ve been okay if they supplied answers as to why this happen, but all they could say was “diagnostics look good.” They’re clearly covering their own ass, that’s it. Ethically, you’ve lost my business forever and I’m taking legal action against them currently. Shame something so sweet, can turn so sour in an instant. Share the stoke, no thank you.

[@jchoi5488]

My GT just started ghosting tonight, had to sprint after it and dive to slap the rear end of it to “put maneuver” it

[@hoosier_dad]

FM should really be offering full returns at this point

[@ladyowyn]

Unfortunate that FM isn't doing enough. I'm still rocking my OW+ with a ranger and she's doing just fine.

[@MrBumchiK]

Jimmy, hello! Not so far ago I've bought my 1st euc and now found ur videos Especially those which u recorded with Law Laxina are very helpful and encouraging Thank u a lot! Can I ask u to take a short video on which u share tips in foot stance on euc, which are present, which are best and what for? Symmetrical or not, how to move weight from side to side and along the foot (heel-toe) during different maneuvers Should I contact with the housing with my internal side of a boot near big toe or not. Same q for Medial ankle Wanted to study right way, but couldn't find such basic information on yt Thank u in advance! That video w'd be such a brilliant

[@Andrewkc1969]

I now know why FM is not saying anything. I've exchanged about 3 emails with them and they still won't admit it, they keep blaming the rider. They won't admit the problem because if they do, they open themselves up to lawsuits.

[@TeDagger]

Pretty soon Onewheel will be in the news for one of their boards hurting someone. Then the brand will be forever known as one of those boards that randomly takes off and hurts people. Onewheels will be banned in certain areas etc. Future Motion needs to step up!

[@freshlycharged]

Agree!

[@eversense]

Riders: guys this is serious, and this problem needs to be fixed, so many people are gonna get hurt Also Riders: hey, let’s attach the runaway Onewheel to my kid so he could have some fun😂

[@JoshSarwono]

2500 dollars of mess. Lawsuits are coming to bring FM down soon. Soooooon.

[@mattwhoanderson9725]

Please please I pray a good company buys them out!!!!! I’m sooo over future motion. No gt for me ever. I wake up feeling so sick about my beloved sport. I was a fool to think they would care more about us than their investors. They are getting what they deserve. And with that I say “good day to you future motion”

[@makatron]

A buyout take over would be a good thing, but the bigger the company the less they care.

[@mattwhoanderson9725]

@@makatron ya, once they stopped relying on crowd sourcing and moved to big investor money they can only have one goal, return on investment for them at our expense.

[@makatron]

@@mattwhoanderson9725 such shame, the OneWheel community it's awesome but the company doesn't bother to nourish it.

[@alexrenaud007]

I was about to order a Onewheel GT, I already chose every accessories and was about to pay when a good friend of mine talked to me about these problems and the fact that the company just don’t admit anything, so after watching some videos and reading about this, I changed my mind and don’t want a GT anymore ! I simply ordered a GT40 to increase the range of my Pint that is so old that I can at least customize everything on it ! This is a very bad attitude from such a company ! Their customers deserves way more than this especially for the price of this kind of products !

[@baddinosaur1548]

I just want to know how you did the last part of your video. That was cute, funny and horrifying at the same time. ;^)

[@pac4ever455]

Damn imagine your riding on the street and this things jumps into traffic!

[@pandabike3826]

This needs to be addressed ASAP

[@FoxHound78]

Daaaamn... Wtf.... I'm a euc rider. Had something similar happen to me when I was in supermarket. THANK GOD I HAD A GRIP ON TROLLY HANDLE!!! Don't know the cause but be extra careful with these devices. POTENTIAL UNMANNED PROJECTILES OR "PUP'S".

[@GingerOnWheels]

I've only ridden a couple onewheels in my day but this is pretty embarrassing. It's definitely amplifying in an echo chamber from the lack of reply by Future Motion. FUTURE MOTION, ARE YOU OUT THERE?

[@chibinyra]

Glad FM cares about our safety because much more property damage and all OneWheels and PEVs are screwed.

[@dreyjones243]

I was debating for 2 weeks. Been hearing alot of problems about the GT. So I got the pint X. Saved almost a K. It runs great. And I haven't been hearing about problems with the pint x. It's a good choice. 👍

[@Why-I-Oughta]

The OneWheel is risky enough to use without this *extra* issue...

[@galacticom]

I sure hope FM survives this fiasco. I have had no problems w/ their customer service, and they were very kind to me via email. I cancelled GT order. This is what I said, "Thank you so much for your response. We really appreciate the kind words more than you know. It has been rough for us so thank you very much. Safety is number one and we always want our ridders to be safe. I understand where you are coming from and respect your decision. "

[@heroslippy6666]

I really hope no one takes their frustrations out on the customer service employees. There hands are unfortunately tied.

[@makatron]

@@heroslippy6666 and yet they're the ones that take the hit, no matter which business

[@ninomendoza627]

FM needs to act quick on this huge problem!

[@ekko3million468]

Do the leashes come standard with the GT?

[@maxsinventions8913]

Lol need one of those treadmill clips that just cuts power.

[@FNGACADEMY]

mine just ghosted into a curb. She dead. like DED.

[@freshlycharged]

Sucks. That's why I returned mine. Didn't want the headache or stress about ghosts and such. Hopefully no one was injured.

[@stephenheen4749]

This happened to me yesterday, cannery row in monterey, memorial weekend, crowded. I had never heard of the term ‘ghosting’. I have almost 500 miles on the GT and this was the first time i had ever experience ghosting. I stepped off my board as i normally do and then stood in disbelief and watched this one month old GT accelerate backwards from one side of the street to the other. It struck a parked car. The owner, a father with his wife and children were outside the vehicle. I am very angry. I dont recall reading about ‘ghosting’ on the future motion website and i do not think its covered in the apps “academy”. Dont be the guy who ghosts a kid.

[@JakeAceBlade]

Thought it may have been an April fools joke. Wow that's crazy

[@StarBoyEUC]

Scary... both the ghost rides and FM's right to repair views. I don't miss the OW at all after 5k miles on eucs.

[@yusufcanaktas6929]

Onewheels are toys, eucs are not

[@DG-xj7pm]

That's if you don't mind looking like a dork lmao

[@StarBoyEUC]

@@DG-xj7pm Depends on your perspective I suppose. When I see OWs cruising down the side walk I usually wave to them and think to myself "oh that's a nice toy". Meanwhile I fly past them in the middle of the lane cruising at 30+mph seated on a one wheeled rocketship. 🤪

[@DG-xj7pm]

@@StarBoyEUC yeah I get that. Just looks like a monkey in a circus or riding a witches broom. Plus, with all that gear on just ride a motorcycle lmao

[@yusufcanaktas6929]

@@DG-xj7pm that is very much subjective, meanwhile I use EUCs as my main transportation device which you cant do with toys

[@odtube]

In the land of class action lawsuits, only this will change corporate behavior.

[@normie26]

It's a super small percentage, and you know FM is tracking the numbers. If it was a large enough percentage they'd do a full recall. They have lawyers, theyre not stupid. If it was enough boards to justify having every gt shipped back they'd do it. Doesn't mean it doesn't suck but the videos and posts on facebook and reddit are always going to be weighted negative and make an issue like this seem larger than what it is. It's still worth complaining about, but I'm not canceling my order because of it. The chances of me getting a board with this issue or the being doa is still super small. Everyone has to decide for themselves though. That being said, the battery kill switch is a bigger problem. That's the issue everyone should be blowing up FM for. Ghosting, DOA boards are accidents, mistakes that they're (poorly) dealing with. The company intentionally bricking the board when the battery is disconnected is planned. It's a decision they made to screw us over and to force us to buy new boards once they stop supporting the GT. It's a dick move and they need to be shamed into back pedaling immediately on it. Some consumers right group or court case is going to sue them and they will lose, they would avoid all that if they just silently updated the firmware and removed that battery kill switch.

[@freshlycharged]

Well stated. Like I’ve said in the past DOA and Ghosting issues were not intentional and will eventually be resolved. The Right to Repair issues are intentional and will take more effort to change.

[@normie26]

@@freshlycharged Whoa! Hey Jimmy! I just don't understand FM at all. They could fix all of this, all this frustration and grief by just changing their tone and undoing the battery kill switch. TFL did a great video about how simple a fix would be for them. Sell the controller and battery enclosures and allow licensed dealers to become licensed techs. Done. No fuss. Bare minimum. I hope the pressure you're putting on them forces them to change...

[@mon3ylounge]

The so long old friend video made me laugh out loud

[@DG-xj7pm]

Does riding simple stop help? Thoughts? Getting my replacement board, better not have anymore problems 👊

[@freshlycharged]

It should. Most cases I have seen are of the board ghosting backwards.

[@DG-xj7pm]

@@freshlycharged they're being so quiet it's almost criminal lol In your vid the replacement didn't fix it either. Tbh, I'm not confident in FM or he GT. FAIL.

[@venonat80]

Most likely. Simple stop allows you to stop by leaning back. Even if the foot pad is faulty and reads your foot there when it’s not, once it’s stopped, it won’t go anywhere. It’ll move once it’s brought to level or angled forward.

[@FAB1150]

Yes, the battery is on the "behind", so when it ghosts it usually leans in the side of the battery so it goes backwards. Simple stop avoids that. If your board flips, then the OW will think it's going forwards so it won't stop. I suggest also getting a fender to avoid that!

[@DG-xj7pm]

I actually really enjoy simple stop so that's good lmao. I thought they were a company of values and werent just like every other greedy business. Well, looks like I was wrong 😌. They don't want us disconnecting the battery, but fine with us disconnecting a fkn limb hahha

[@Loukus]

Nice, glad my xr works flawlessly still

[@matthewfonseca8466]

I was debating for a month if I should get a GT or the Pint X. Glad I went with the Pint X. The sensor doesn't activate here and there but I'll take that over ghosting.

[@freshlycharged]

Agree

[@tenaciousfpv6874]

Response from FM: Oh that’s …. *Simple Go and is always on.

[@michaelangellotti4773]

Would a 'kill switch' tether be a feasible solution?

[@makatron]

It should, also so cheap to implement, just like treadmills.

[@michaelangellotti4773]

@@makatron Yea, it just kinda dawned on me, and I don't have a one wheel. That's why I was asking if it would be feasible. I Was just watching vids on the ghosting, and a snowmobile/surfboard tether came to mind. One, so know one gets hurt. Two so you don't have to chase it down.

[@michaelangellotti4773]

@@makatron Also I was thinking, like it wouldn't be just a plug in thing, which would bend, and/or rip up the connection to the board. But the cord on the plug is where the disconnect happens with the cord having a magnetic connection. So when the board ghosts the cord separates at the magnetic connection between the kill switch cord and not at the plug in the board. I would think this is possible, but I'm no engineer

[@makatron]

@@michaelangellotti4773 it could be possible and easy to implement, the hardware it's already done so if they want to they can make it happen

[@Retro_Care]

if all power is killed it would brick the board, i think it's also a safety issue not to be able to unplug the battery that can be a issue or even having a bad cell without making the board a paperweight after doing so.

[@justforthetv]

Wowwww dude this is incredibly dangerous. I understand things happen but come on FM...

[@andrewxu2812]

OMG! Does Pint X has the same issue like this? I just got my new Pint X a couple month ago.

[@Lurch685]

I will not purchase anything from Future Motion until their anti-consumer business practices change. Period. I’m already looking at buying an ebike or escooter instead.

[@dylanlong4052]

For Pete's sake, this is nuts! Idk man, I love my XR. 3,000 miles with no issues, but this is nonsense

[@omicron0mega]

This is what happens when innovation lacks evolution.

[@weigg4705]

What are the Warrantee periods does other PEV device have compared to FM?

[@Later_Nerd]

When the Backfire Zealot S had a defect. I got an email and a replacement part in the mail. It was apologetic and I only knew about the recall because of a Reddit comment. 500 miles later I never replaced that part on my electric longboard like an idiot and have had no issues. Backfire has so so much less reach and they handled that situation with 10x the amount of grace. In an industry filled with bad customer service. I really think OneWheel is just being run by lawyers at this point. Taking absolutely zero accountability for a potentially deadly defect while also going anti right to repair "for safety." I want to love this company so bad but they make it incredibly difficult. Looks like a CBXR upgrade is in the works. My front pad on the XR has dinged up corners, I just replaced the griptape a couple weeks ago and zero activation/ghosting issues with nearly 1000 miles.

[@Ronnocsnave42]

This is crazy I literally only bought my XR a few months back, so glad I didn't splash out for the GT now

[@MasonH24]

Just to go a step further, these are just the ghosting boards that are cut on camera. It's happening to others as well without the video evidence. Love my Pint and my XR, but you won't catch me buying a new board from FM any time soon. How they've handled this launch is.. ridiculous.

[@VanlifeTroglio]

parody = clickbait ya got me good

[@drivethru6155]

Hopefully some lawsuits take a huge chunk out of this disgusting company, I am glad I haven't purchased anything from them

[@luzhang779]

This is really dangerous. Does it happen to the new Pint X too? I'm thinking about getting an OneWheel but this video really makes me worried.

[@benriding8678]

Ordered mine like 8 months ago, received it on 3/23 & sold it the next day. Not because of ghosting because I hated it compared to my Lacroix eskate. Not even close!

[@Hanger995]

Supposed to get mine April 14th. Really considering canceling it. Was supposed to get it February now I just don’t care. I don’t believe in future motion anymore.

[@entvisual]

*Honestly scary!!* I hope this never happens with Tesla Vehicles 🚗😳

[@Torched8392]

Umm kinda very different machines. You don't jump out of your car before putting it in park do you? Because any automatic car already "ghosts" if you jump out while in drive.

[@freshlycharged]

This happened to some Toyotas years ago. An entire family was killed because they think the brakes stopped working. There was a massive recall and huge lawsuit.

[@hunterwarren5349]

I'm so glad I got an XR instead of a GT. I thought future motion was bad when they where Nickle and dimeing people for the charger port plugs. This stuff is way worse. Truly a company that doesn't care.

[@fazer12779]

Sue them!

[@abundantharmony]

Okay.. how did you do the ghost leash edit?

[@robbieschweigert2700]

This is why I’m happy with my electric skateboards

[@phamster18]

or EUC's

[@schaddalton]

If an auto manufacturer knew about a problem with one of their models having a gas pedal that sticks and sends the car into an uncontrolled acceleration, they'd issue a recall ASAP. FM is going to ensure that they drive not only themselves out of business, but the entire market for any PEV like the OW as well, if they start acting like adults real soon. It's only going to take a serious injury to a pedestrian hit by a ghosting board or a board going into traffic, causing a collision that hurts or kills someone, before the legislation will start dropping in city after city banning OneWheel use in any public space. Everyone should cancel their orders or return their GTs now and demand FM fix the problems immediately before they send another board out of their factory. The way that company holds its customers in such contempt is infuriating.

[@aFlyMothaLova]

One of those going 20 mph ghost towards someone’s legs or a kid, broken bones guaranteed

[@orcaolivegames]

I got my first onewheel last week, and got 100 miles on it. So is it normal for your knees to hurt a bit when trying to get used to the onewheel?

[@mrzon9344]

In my experience it killed my calves for the first week or so .. or when I havn't ridden for a while.. and tight calf muscles can cause knee pain - so possible I think (Note: I am no doctor)