Scary sharp: The best sandpaper, etc for tool sharpening woodworking planes, chisels, etc.

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[@nomoremuda]

For the record, when I watched this clip last year, I went out and bought that Rockler kit... very pleased with it... Thanks!!!

[@willnettles2051]

Another terrific video! I didn't know about sandpaper types. Also, your recommendation to use pressure sensitive sandpaper--absolutely. Been doing it for more than 12 years. I've tried spray adhesives, always there are bumps! It's easy to clean off any old sticky from glass with a razor blade. Even an old utility knife blade works good enough. I may be a complete hack, but I don't use a guide. My chisels are all curved. I'm putting on both the big angle and the smaller cutting angle at the same time. It's not as pretty, and I may be missing something, but seems to work pretty good. It's scary sharp because you'll know you're doing it right if the edges of your plane and chisels are like razor blades. You can't scary sharp a chisel and then put it in your leather tool pouch--it'll cut it way through. You'll know you're doing it right if when you get a new chisel you take it out of the box and sharpen it.

[@danharold3087]

Old document scanners and copiers may be a good source of flat tempered glass.

[@StumpyNubs]

Good idea!

[@marquisbois990]

good tip, thx

[@MattOGormanSmith]

That stuff tends to be really thin, like picture glass. A better source would be old oven doors, or windows off a vehicle. Granite floor tiles are a great idea though. I've already contemplated gluing one to a concrete paving slab to get a surface plate on the cheap.

[@louisrucci6043]

I have a granite block

[@branislavnikic4611]

Why are you guys insisting on tempered glass in first place? Float or laminated glass would be even better and flatter...

[@johnadams6440]

Great stuff. Always informative and entertaining. It's also fun to follow the beer can as it migrates from the workbench in the center of the shot to a shelf on the side, and then back again:)

[@revuaf]

Love the tool box behind you in the video... My dad has my Grand dads tool box just like it. Grand Dad worked for Dow years ago... One Day it will be my tool box. Oh yeah nice video on the sharping system... Learned a little bit about my wife jewelry too... Going to head to ACE for a fine set of ear ring paper... hehehehe

[@StumpyNubs]

Garnet is the January birth stone. Gold miners find them by the thousands. The large ones are considered semi-precious.

[@hebrewhammer1000]

Great video! Thank you for sharing.

[@jamesrobinson7108]

I hate to say it but I use to not like you. three years ago because of your attempt at humor, but I just started watching agene here lately your channel I improving. you were funny but it was like you were trying too hard. like the class clown back in the old days so keep up the good work / loved the Elvis joke or just maybe I'm just getting old

[@StumpyNubs]

Maybe your tastes are changing, because this video, which you said you like, was created three years ago.

[@brucethelen9977]

I love the Red Wings coozie! Thanks for the tips bro!

[@mardakworkshop4450]

thanks man 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@geeborg6912]

James, have you ever heard of diamond sharpening stones such as the Trend / James Barry 300/1000 grit stones being used to flatten plane soles instead of sandpaper? Just curious. MVH.

[@66Redbat]

I have been using this for years and years. I found the easy way to remove sandpaper, and remove glue is to use a hair dryer or heat gun to heat the sandpaper, then lift it off. Next use Napa solvent to remove the spray adhesive. I went to a recycle company and got the glass from scanners for computers. They just throw the glass away, so were very happy to give it to me.

[@watermain48]

Thanks buddy, I knew that slab of tempered glass I've been saving would come in handy.

[@StumpyNubs]

Goes to show- you should NEVER throw anything away!

[@walkermayer2666]

Funny that I just did a video on sharpening too... Great minds think alike. Although, yours was superior in almost every way :)

[@hughrobinson4147]

Great video!! Just got the scary sharp system from Rockler. I have a question, Do you use water on the paper to help with sharpening? Thanks in advance for the answer.

[@trackie1957]

I went to a granite countertop shop and picked up some scraps for free. About 1.5” thick, polished flat on one side. These won’t flex under pressure like a glass plate will.

[@stonesj1519]

Thanks

[@sc928porsche8]

I'm really partial to crocus cloth. really sets up a razor edge.

[@BigFatTonys]

Companies that make custom counters always have a dumpster out back that usually has some pieces of granite or marble suited for this purpose. If you visit twice in one week, you will for sure find a suitable sized piece.

[@nurseboy9999]

did that and it was cheap not free 16x20 with finished edge likely a sink cutout, going back for more soon

[@BigFatTonys]

Keep searching, there will be at least one that wants to lighten their dumpster. I got a tile cutting blade at the Hardware Abyss for $30 and with a helper holding the garden hose at the blade, I cut the slabs to size. I made a retaining wall for my garden with granite & marble dumpster stone.

[@djevil247]

To be honest, the Trend sharpening system is outstanding, my boss a master carpenter borrowed mine and he said it's the best sharpening system he'd used to date. He now uses nothing else. It's expensive but it's simply amazing. Try it!

[@StumpyNubs]

I prefer diamonds to sandpaper too. I use the Trend kit ( amzn.to/2kFXuye ) for sharpening all sorts of tools- router bits, forstner bits, even turning tools and carving gouges.

[@djevil247]

Stumpy Nubs Thanks for the tip, looks like Trend is going to get some more of my hard earned cash

[@torl8924]

superb performance. Do you rehearse a lot? Or does it come to you naturally?

[@BobRaikes]

I like that he's wearing a Worksharp hat!

[@BigDaddyOworkshop]

I have been using that Rockler plate set for a few years. I don't bother with the guide when honing. I just break it out on the new(old) chisels and planes on low grits to get the angle right, then it's just done by hand after.

[@StumpyNubs]

It's a nice set, for sure!

[@johnthompson3462]

another solution is what I do when sticking patterns to wood.I put masking tape on first,then the patern.When finished,just peel the whole thing off

[@kevinbowker2385]

Another good video, James, thanks for sharing! What is the jig you used to keep the angle? Do you find that pulling away from the tip produces a sharper edge that dulls more quickly? Thanks for journeying to Kennesaw, it was really cool to meet you.

[@StumpyNubs]

With sandpaper I always feel like the course grits must drag against the edge of the tool when you push forward. I'm not sure they do, or that it makes a difference, but that's why I go back with course grits. The jig is a common one made by several companies. Here they are on amazon: amzn.to/2lfDR32

[@brianstevens3858]

large high quality floor tile works good as a backing just make sure its the flat not arched lind

[@TheWoodKnight]

Sounds like alumaximum sandpaper is the way to go.

[@scottroy6195]

Possible source for nice flat surface is a kitchen counter place. They just throw out cut offs that can be a really good size.

[@hrayrohanyan4498]

hello, what sandpaper do you use? as i can not find good one, they lost just several passes and can not flatten chisels or planes? thanks

[@RobertSchoenert]

u r great

[@christopherdavis7458]

Stumpy, If using spray adhesive, when the sandpaper is used up and no longer good, how does one remove it from (and clean old glue) from the glass in order to apply new sandpaper? Also, what do you put on the sandpaper to lubricate it? Thanks for the feedback and awesome videos.

[@StumpyNubs]

A heat gun is a good tool to release the glue. Some sort of solvent, such as mineral spirits will remove old adhesive buildup. Water will lubricate the sandpaper.

[@billydengel6647]

You can tell it works well by how many bandaids he has on his fingers

[@danvalleskey]

When choosing paper, you also need to pay attention to water resistance. Use Silicon Carbide wet.

[@mikeanthony07]

What is the plate you spritzed with water made of ? The black plate. I think in have granite tile in garage.

[@StumpyNubs]

A granite floor tile

[@carybrown3192]

My neighbor is pissed!

[@aimansyahmidzulkhairy909]

It's ok if I use duct tape to stabilize the sandpaper right?

[@ared18t]

2 Norton stones and a strop with compound you can use the four surfaces that you get from the two sharpening stones to rub them against eachother and get them super flat by alternating which ones are on top of eachother and making sure all surfaces touch eachother. Sharpen and flatten on the stones and then debur on the strop with green compound.

[@StumpyNubs]

Rubbing two Norton stones together is a terrible idea. What do you think happens to the grit that rubs off? You can't wipe it all away. You are contaminating the finer stone with coarse grit.

[@trentwood1449]

I'm sure Klingspor doesn't mind the free advertising. But you should mention them in the video, secure their rights, or blur out the name. Not a bad sandpaper. I prefer the rhynowet redline from Indasa. Any experience with that?

[@jimbo2629]

The best sandpaper by far for wood is “Tri-M-Ite” made by 3M. It lasts ages and does not clog much and stays sharp. I think it is silicon carbide. It is different from wet and dry paper. There is no turning back once you have used it with a cork sanding block. It’s not expensive either, much cheaper than what you buy in diy stores. For sharpening blades I would use use a stone or diamonds and not paper.

[@pianoluthier]

totally agreed, tri-m-ite is absolutely the best. especially the adhesive backed stik-it version.

[@krashunburn]

I have had good luck not using the little feet and folding the top end of the paper over the edge of the plate. The plate is hard up against the bench top, pinching the paper between it and the benchtop. Water adhesion does the rest of the work. No glue mess or hastle pealing off adhesive papers, no extra cost for sticky paper and no mess. Try it...

[@MazMaslin]

Paul Sellers made a great video years ago where he sharpened a plane blade to 240 and it cut like butter. Seeing people use these 30,000 grit Japanese stones nakes me laugh. There's also a knife naker who useds a common ibstock house brick to sharpen all his knifes. I personally use my late grandfather's fine India stone 240 or 400 grit (I forget), then strop that puppy intil its shiny and jewel like.

[@aimansyahmidzulkhairy909]

I sharpen all my tools with sandpaper just like him, it work great and I don't have to stick it with spray adhesive, I just use duct tape. I don't even have 1000 grit sharpening stone, my stone is 120/500 combination stone and it works great after stropping.

[@jimbeaver27]

rubber cement, spread it even - easy cleanup roll old glue off with fingers

[@DantePaxton113]

does aluminium oxide waterproof abrasive paper :1000 work or is no:600 better ???

[@dmcwoodworx2968]

How do you sharpen your typewriter? See 6.32 "This information is for those who aren't suing the Rockler Kit"

[@BigWingUK]

I noticed that too - did you really mean "suing"?!

[@StumpyNubs]

Nope. It was a typo. Thankfully you guys caught it. Without proper spelling/grammar police, the internet might go all the heck!

[@dmcwoodworx2968]

If that happens, someone will be all sued up.

[@alexanderwolfe9705]

I use the 3M red paper from home depot, which works well

[@StumpyNubs]

Thanks for the tip!

[@jimbo2629]

Hand sharpening is fine if you enjoy it, but motorised sharpening is quicker. It takes seconds rather than minutes. I use a worksharp as the bevel can be set exactly the same every time. Also there’s no need to buy guides and jigs, which in the end makes it very cheap. I use diamond discs rather than sandpaper in it. I have a quick strop afterwards before I settle down to planing and chiselling. Keep up the humour please. I love it.

[@steveking195]

You can always go visit a granite fabricator and pick up a scrap. 1 1/4" thick and whatever size you want.

[@richb8141]

Could you use the same methods to sharpen fishing hooks?

[@porkchopspapi5757]

Oh God no!

[@btrswt35]

I typically use 3M wet/dry paper for autobody and an old marble cheese cutting board I got out of the trash.

[@StumpyNubs]

Did you eat the cheese out of the trash?

[@johnschillo4452]

my neighbor is an Amish farmer with a buggy. He didn't mind me sanding that 80 year old buggy. The horse didn't mind either.

[@kaseyjohns5169]

This guy is funny as hell

[@MrRackinroll]

Stuby, I think you know this. Buy you wet and dry paper at the auto motive store and with the flat plate granite floor tile or the glass plate the paper will stick to the plate by spraying some water on the paper back and some on the plate. The surface tension of the water produces the bond. I do it all the time. Remember these important words KISS Kept it simple stupid. That's all I got for the moment. 60 yr and counting.

[@TeddyBear651946]

I noticed that you have a lot of hand planes in your shop. I have an old Stanley Bailey style plane that I restored, but I can't get the blade to protrude thru the bottom of the 14" smooth bottom. Any ideas? I have two different lengths of blades. Plus I have two frogs with different angles. I appreciate your thoughts.

[@StumpyNubs]

Are you sure the blades you have belong in the plane you have?

[@TeddyBear651946]

No sir I am not sure. The blade I have in the plane is 7" long. Other than that I do not know. They didn't teach planes when I was in school so what little I know I have learned on my own.

[@StumpyNubs]

I recommend this website. It tells you everything there is to know about Stanley hand planes (except how to use them). You can use it to identify what plane you have, and if the parts in it are the proper ones. That's all I can do without actually seeing the plane. Sorry I couldn't help more. www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan0a.html

[@TRICK-OR-TREAT236]

WHAT'S UP STUMPY ?

[@YouGumppy]

What did Mr. WORK SHARP think about this sandpaper-based Rockler promotion. I'm surely not the only person to note your chapeau.

[@StumpyNubs]

So what if Worksharp is on my hat. I'm obviously not selling you one in this video. In fact, we're sponsored by their competitor, Tormek.

[@swde4793]

Ive spent hundreds of hrs sharpening my chisels and Kanna blades on just about everything cheap and easy. The crappy thing about​ sandpaper is that you cannot ever get the very most cutting edge bevel perfectly intersecting at infinity because the paper compresses at the cutting edge and curls up around the edge ever so slightly but rounds it off. Arkansas stones I've barrowed from friends are the only thing that works to my satisfaction and even then not Happy. saving up for some Japanese water stones.

[@jasonjayalap]

Is it true that sandpaper wears smooth, thus becoming like a finer grit? Or do the abrasives dislodge, giving the same deepness of scratches but slower? Ive heard both. Has anyone put a microscope to this?

[@jagros4672]

Both

[@StumpyNubs]

Depends on the sandpaper. Silicon Carbide breaks up, forming a finer grit. But since the fine grit is mixed with larger grit, it won't produce a finer edge.

[@jhoke3987]

i used to use left handed drill bits to remove screws that had there head snap off. They work by running the drill in reverse. Worked all the time. IRWIN Tools 5 Piece Left Hand Cobalt 5/64-Inch to 19/64-Inch Cobalt Twist Drill Bit Assortment (30520). jp

[@StumpyNubs]

I think you are commenting on the wrong video. This one is about sharpening tools with sandpaper.

[@jhoke3987]

Probably did. Looked at several videos that evening. Those bits worked well for me and are simple to use. enjoy your posts. jp

[@scottbarrowcliffe1297]

I tried to sharpen my chisel on my wife's ring, but she often complained and said it was becoming painful.. so, I bought some sand paper for my chisels and now guess what? Her ring sees my tool aaall the time! Bleess yaaall!

[@latherookie]

you're welcome

[@JOHNHOANSHELT]

How did you fine the angel or the degree of the chisel and how did you set the honing guide to the angel

[@StumpyNubs]

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[@shenlun]

I am a green wood worker, i don't d why you use the glass? couldn't you just put the grits on some wood and achieve the same result? or is it because of the glass' hardness combined with the grit and the pressure that makes it a scary sharp system?

[@spladdy007]

shenlun it’s because the glass is super flat

[@MrAndrewmcgibbon]

Garnet has a hardness of 6.5 - 7.5 out of 10 on the Mohs scale, (Not to be confused with the Moe scale which measures Nyuks) I knew that college geology class would pay off one day.

[@MrAndrewmcgibbon]

Stumpy Nubs Im not trying to argue garnet is good for sharpening, Im sharing some geology info. I make hand made knives. I've Ground, Polished, Sharpened more steel than most. I buy SC paper in packages of 100 sheets. AO abrasive is ok, but it usually cant be found finer than 400 grit.

[@LoganSumrell]

Klingspor Woodworking Shop...they have it.

[@jimmerrill2183]

God of Thunder m

[@ibdavidc]

Is there a good reason to sue the Rockler kit? Check out your text at 6:00 or so. Great video, though. :-)

[@sylviaapperley4966]

Lol ... try it out on my neighbour car!

[@thriftshop2609]

That was a bad idea, my neighbor caught me, he's going to have you arrested in the morning!

[@bobsullivan5714]

Elvis ain't dead! What the hell are you talking about? He just went to the store for more beer. He'll be right back............

[@lennytheleopard]

lol !! Good joke "Aloooominum" My other favourite American word is "Levvver" :-)

[@pistoleroshooter2575]

What about Solder. In the english language, it's Sol....Der. Americans pronounce it Soda. Too tired to pronounce the "L"? Duh???? In the rest of the world "soda" is a fizzy drink in a can.

[@PoorMarvoloSawyer]

Haha, the "British" pronunciation killed me. It's aluminium - al-you-min-ee-um

[@kardRatzinger]

Fun fact: it's OK to say "aluminum" if you're American, but ONLY when referring to the metal. When referring to the element (like here, with "aluminium oxide"), the only correct pronunciation/spelling is "aluminium", even in America.

[@sirzechshoopin5275]

How about red sand paper

[@lazarus856]

i dont get the numbers somewhare they say from 220-600 or 650-2000

[@timmytyphoon]

"Fine" 600 grit?

[@lynardburt5992]

Your kit is not on that page, just a lot of stuff to buy

[@The_Joker_]

00:50 “Before you start rubbing your chisels on your wife’s ring” I think that’s a federal offence 😮😬

[@latherookie]

AL U MIN E UM

[@simonhopkins3867]

😂

[@StumpyNubs]

Whatever helps you sleep at night...

[@peterharrison8756]

AL U MIN I UM IN ENGLAND

[@gaming4fun419]

BOT ALU OR GOD ALU IN CSGO (not the right forum for csgo jokes?)

[@farikomike524]

Kevin Carpenter agreed. I don’t understand why they miss out an ‘i’

[@CancerCashew]

What's with the regurgitated content?...

[@StumpyNubs]

Many new subscribers never saw it because these segments were buried inside long, old format videos. Don't like it, skip it. We still put out tons of new content every month.

[@StumpyNubs]

By the way, please don't compare my hard work to vomit.

[@majorkonfuzion1007]

hey what's up guys im scared here.

[@StumpyNubs]

What?

[@majorkonfuzion1007]

im sorry sr.

[@klmbuilders5385]

Nobody "hollow grinds" chisels anymore?

[@pianoluthier]

i do.

[@whoevermosher676]

I have a piece of tempered glass for an old end table that will hold 3 full sheets of sandpaper on each side for sharpening. I wet both glass and paper, put paper on glass and set flat in warm place to dry out. KIM

[@swde4793]

Ive spent hundreds of hrs sharpening my chisels and Kanna blades on just about everything cheap and easy. The crappy thing about​ sandpaper is that you cannot ever get the very most cutting edge bevel perfectly intersecting at infinity because the paper compresses at the cutting edge and curls up around the edge ever so slightly but rounds it off. Arkansas stones I've barrowed from friends are the only thing that works to my satisfaction and even then not Happy. saving up for some Japanese water stones.

[@Oscar-yc9cx]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@martinerhard8447]

And why do you need them this little bit sharper?