Scenicruiser safety issues

Tearing into the Scenicruiser uncovering several serious safety issues. Bad kingpin, bad wheel bearings, leaky wheel seals, horrible air brake air leak and more.....

[@ThatBobGuy850]

I'm not quite sure why this channel is so fascinating and compelling. I mean, I'm definitely not into big buses, nor do I ever want to own one - but there is something entertaining about seeing the innards and learning how it all works. I can't explain it. But I've sure learned a lot from watching! Great videos!

[@jaysmith1408]

I have driven them, for a company with lots of mechanics. I could tell you when I’m missing something, like an axle, but to have them drive up and say “yep, your doohickey flange is leaking” is brilliant. I didn’t even know my bus had doohickies, let alone that the flanges could leak.

[@erikj.2066]

The way the day went with all the issues found, I don’t think that fella will be buying himself a new jacket anytime soon.

[@gregorygagnon4641]

It's the best jacket for the job.

[@spudth]

Sad thing about his jacket is it just blew out at the shoulder/vent, if it was from working it would be blown out at the cuffs like mine. Maybe have some holes from welding or battry acid too.

[@davidmiller9485]

@@spudth just to be helpful it's battery. :)

[@janettyree938]

Bought a scenicruiser at a really low price, learned a lot simply watching the man do his work.

[@kevinhoober1863]

love the attitude of the owner--looks like you guys had a good time

[@adamtheede2575]

Ol tore up work jackets are the most comfortable thing in the world!!!

[@motorcoachtech7615]

One of the first buses or coaches I worked on when I started my apprenticeship was a 1958 4104 in 1976. Our fleet were mainly 4905’s and a couple of 4108’s ‘Humps” We didn’t see many if any Scenic Cruisers in Canada. Brings back some memories.

[@ik04]

Water cooled wheel bearings! How innovative.

[@haroldfisher2256]

Love being able to watch you work on those Busses Scott. Wish I had one of my own. Thanks for Sharing.

[@RustyZipper]

I love watching him and thinking man I’m glad I’m not there today! ⛄️

[@chuckhodges9227]

I love these old buses! Especially the pd4501 double decker.

[@fantasticola]

I’m glad the guys taking it in his stride. An emphasis that the safety checks you do before 'EVERY' ride with a bus or a truck. From his reactions, doesn't not know his bus. An eye opener for him, and a hopefully a lesson learnt, major accident avoided.

[@undergroundupholstery]

Mannnnn. One thing leads to another. At what point do you just stop looking. Glad y’all are keeping this thing on the road.

[@BarryTsGarage]

Great watching you do what you do best! Thanks Scott

[@westhavenor9513]

Goodness, reminds me of when I owned a boat. That guy is lucky to have found you!

[@christopherrasmussen8718]

One winter outside then the Quonset hut! I like to make a suggestion (but maybe you already thought of it). Heat the floor. Be the best thing you could do IMHO. You can hear each individual pully and belt problem. I got some noise in the back. He has a point about the LH lugs lol

[@notajp]

Yep. In floor radiant is definitely the way to go. I worked in a shop that had it for a while. It was great!

[@_BAD_MERC_]

Guys, I got some old used baking sheets from a restaurant and they're invaluable when working on this stuff. They hold parts and tools, plus well over a half gallon of accidental spills. You're not gonna knock them over and all the parts will sit there with no threat of rolling away or growing legs.

[@mojo68mitch]

Didn’t think that was too bad for 40+ year old bus. Nice video. I love old machines. Those rear tag spindles are a beast. Go get em Scott. Anybody who ventures into this game is ready to spend some money to restore an old bus. Love it.

[@thegodblogger3812]

They were produced between 1954 and 1956, so at the least this coach was 65 y/o at the time of release of this video.

[@baileyreport.]

It's interesting watching these shade tree mechanics enjoy themselves with this old stuff. I guess they do enjoy the challenge regardless of the pain in the wallet.

[@marty0715yt]

Thar's a lot oh grunting going on there Lucy! Did he think you were gonna put a gold star on the hood and deem it certified?? He's lucky he has a resource such as yourself!! Way to go Scott.

[@chrisrhodes5464]

Looks like you guys are doing the maintenance the bus needed years ago it all adds up over time

[@jimellison2433]

Years ago we had a few Scenicruisers in our fleet, they were noted for a week breaks and Frame cracking at the point the lower deck connected to the upper, also leaking around the upper front window

[@dp.oennismaurer205]

Scott, I'm almost 71 now and learned to drive tractor-trailer in two separate Int'l tractors, one with 8V-71 318h.p. and the other with an 8V 71T 350 h.p.The 2 strokes were used in many different applications and the only ones that were really successful were the G.M.engines.2-53, 3-53, 4-53, 6V-53, 8V-53, 2-71, 3-71, 4-71,6-71, 6V71 8V-71, 12V-71, 16V-71, 6V-92, 8V-92 , 12V-92, 16V-92, 6-110,12V-149, 16V-149, 20V-149 and also I believe a 24V-149 turbocharged and non turbo. The 110 series was used in the early Euclid road machinery.

[@codraven57]

The hatchet is for chopping ice on the steps in winter time. It's a common thing for nothern buses and I have even seen them on school buses.

[@craetbandbass]

Excellent video. Really enjoyed the work and talk. 👍👍

[@weighit]

So enjoyable to watch how you tell us what is going on and why.

[@thegodblogger3812]

God, how I miss riding the Scenics and seeing them on the highways and byways. I lost rode one in 1969 between Baton Rouge La and Port Arthur Tex. I was so pissed when the Mc-7 replaced the Scenics as Greyhound's flagship car.

[@douglasengle2704]

I'm impressed at how the chassis appears to be largely free of corrosion. No obvious weld seams opening up. Replacing the moving parts, wheel bearings, seals, rubber suspension bushings, king pins, some air bags, tie rod ends, pitman arm, that is what you'd expect after a lot miles. I'd think the steering box would have a lot play by now if it hasn't already been rebuilt or replaced. The Scenic Cruiser had an issue with cracking frames. I think there was a retrofit kit for them. I wonder if this bus has it. The Scenic Cruiser is still one of the coolest looking busses ever. I can easily see why somebody would resto-mod one. At least a few models came with a 12V71 a V12. Not turbocharged originally. Its amazing how advanced it was. Airbag suspension, independent tag axle (I assume). Solid axle front suspension, but only the Eagle bus had an independent front suspension years later.

[@greglammers9905]

Series 60 transplant, wow!

[@ralphcolerick4939]

if you buy a bus its ALWAYS dollar signs. as long as you are aware of that its all good COULD have been way more money glad you kept the costs down

[@hoisinga]

Owner of Bus: “We should switch those left handed studs out. Millennials won’t know how to get the nuts off.” Also Owner of Bus: “How do I reverse this drill.”

[@georgetucker336]

Interesting Rebuild.

[@michaelcook7090]

Love the new unit of measurement at the beginning... the TH, or, more exactly, the TH-S!

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

I could have said chest, but who am i kidding, they are full grown titties

[@18robsmith]

@@BusGreaseMonkey 🤣 🤣

[@21Piloteer]

@@BusGreaseMonkey moobs. Lol

[@SBrown-ov9lz]

Scott. In my lifetime, I am approaching 66 years of age, I have come across situations where people from my past, and situations during those times, living on farms, old tractors, and the what not, marine diesel, as a marine surveyor, I have familiar understandings for early Detroit. 353, 453, 653,671, 692, 871,892, 1271..six cylinder 6v 92...as well as 8's and 12's and 16's.....and on into Locomotive applications. If you are not charging at least $150 dollars an hour...I think you are, and should be, I'm moving in and also repair buses..like YOU!

[@waynep343]

carrying tools on the golf cart. you may want to use some cement mixing trays of various sizes. what ever fits the passenger side of the seat. and the back.. so stuff does not roll off

[@fireantsarestrange]

My wallet started to decompose before you even started to look at the bus.

[@rickycollins4633]

Grease and oil are not nasty. Thank you grease and oil for protecting our metal to metal products.

[@victoryfirst2878]

I just love these buses. They are really COOL.

[@GinosGarageUSA]

Nice work.. that guy is hilarious.. that makes a cold day a little more bearable.

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

We had a great time working together.

[@undertakerfire7810]

Always makes it much nicer working with people like that I’m sure👍

[@markbuckles6609]

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[@markbuckles6609]

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[@markbuckles6609]

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[@MrJasonace99]

That scenic cruiser is from local to me. I wondered where it went to. Been down the street for a while. Maybe richline guys owned it. Cool bus man!

[@martinmills8458]

Did you notice the homemade shackle inside one of the rear wheels?

[@dflood6111]

27:05..yup...

[@N.D.J.S.]

jeah.. but , looks strong as oem parts. 👍

[@paulbeckett1256]

Cut out with a gas torch,

[@rodneymiddleton9624]

That's my kind of luck. Everything bad!!!! LOL!!

[@papabits5721]

I thought I was the only one

[@travisallen206]

If not foe bad luck i wouldnt have any luck at all

[@2Str0k3]

@@papabits5721 Thats my usual luck as well.

[@frankely6378]

Time to jack up the radiator cap and drive a new bus under it.

[@boooshes]

Great bus work guys!

[@maxfly7079]

sunny and 79° here in Arizona, I'm going to wear shorts outside, today...lol

[@WACRE44]

That’s telling the people that they don’t want to do this job themselves they need your vlogs and your helping hand

[@barryholloway4715]

Im wiping my screen trying to clean that air gauge. Dohhh. 🤦🏻‍♂️😆

[@TheGalifrey]

Jeez what is with those spikes on the front wheel?

[@steelfist65]

This guy's wearing his incredible hulk jacket! 😂😂

[@TommyboyGTP]

Look for a utility bed to put on the back of your golf cart. The maintenance crew here where I live have golf carts with those beds on the back and they really load them down.

[@841k9]

"Already committed to the nastiness" Part of any dirty, unpleasant job is when you give up on keeping clean and just dive in to get it done.

[@Stephen-ou4sy]

Good tuition..... You need big wallet and a sense of humor if you have a old machine.

[@morkorson4196]

This bus is definitely another "Hey Lance " job.

[@paullewis6612]

I was hoping you were going to tell me that’s Pixie Dust!! Beautiful comment 😁

[@lenscap8925]

Those "curb climber 1500" rear tires... He thought Jackson Pollock was another mechanic..lol

[@rich7447]

I saw something that looked almost the same as this in East Baltimore last week.

[@ralphballtrip2214]

Somebody need to clean the dashboard. Thanks for the video KY.

[@danw1955]

21:33 - "Looks like dollar signs to me!"🤣 Yeah, buddy! Replacing those big-ass bearings, kingpin & bushing kits, labor, etc. can get expensive *REAL* quick on one of those beasts!😲 I'd definitely be getting rid of those stupid 'spike' stud caps and just sand down and repaint the nuts on those 10 hole Budd's. They're a hazard any way you look at it.😜 Heck, even just round chrome caps would be an upgrade!😁👍

[@wcurtin1962]

Those caps hide loose lug nuts, I never used them.

[@s.hooper4683]

Ok, this bus was built 70 odd years ago. There are going to be a few worn out parts. King pins, bearings and pretty much anything and everything that moves. Anyone who takes on a project like this better be ready to put in either a ton of wrench time or better have a wallet full of money to pay someone else to do it. I love these old busses but it would almost be more cost effective to build one from scratch with new style parts. Just a thought.

[@thegodblogger3812]

Right. They were produced between 1954 and 1956. Fantastic cars.

[@sketchyssk8shop]

This is the bus i have always wanted.

[@rsprockets7846]

Beautiful epic retro machine

[@martindiego6795]

Is that a Detroit 60 series in the scenicruiser

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

Yes

[@martindiego6795]

@@BusGreaseMonkey that's so cool

[@gonefishing2012]

What a great bus! How big are the storage bays on a Scenic Cruiser.

[@uliwehner]

tall enough for a bike

[@jimmincey2285]

@@uliwehner Harley or bicycle?

[@iBackshift]

WhaaaaaaaaaaaaaT? series 60? haha, that's so MinT !

[@LAP1050]

Looks like you could use a pickup bed on that golf cart. Lots of trust on your jacks, no blocks while working under the bus or maybe you had them and I didn’t see them.

[@billmoran3812]

Thought that golf cart was Kelly’s?

[@SBrown-ov9lz]

I'd guess you are asking enough for your endeavors. Your worth a lot to many people...You found the BlueGrass peope, and with their busses. In 1986, I have photos I took of Bill Monroe exiting the doorway, with a nurse, from what looked like an MCI bus, moments before his performance on the stage at Acromdale, NY, "Birck Shire Mountain Bluegrass Festaval..1986...I think it was one of his last shows!

[@justfun985]

Cheaper than repairing it out on the road, while on vacation time.

[@jeffsnider3588]

I think that guy is very lucky considering the shape of hubs/brakes/bearings/etc. As a mechanic it scares me when I see some of the issues on the road. I have seen ball seat aluminum front wheels that don't have steel inserts so the seat is worn out and the nuts bottom on the stud and hub,

[@Mustang00007]

Great to see a longer vid at last.

[@BusWithUs.]

Wow. Just wow.

[@JeffinTD]

Ouch, my wallet! The guy has a good attitude.

[@jamesshanks2614]

Was that a series 60 in the scenicruser ? Thanks for the answer Scott

[@jimmartin7881]

How do you only have 105k subs? I guess only BS mechanics and "influencers" get the million plus sub counts. I'd rather work with you any day of the week Scott.

[@kentkirkpatrick7953]

Hahaha talking about how millennials wouldn't know how to do the lug nuts,, then asks how to reverse the new age cordless impact. There's irony in there somewhere.

[@mfbfreak]

Millenials: 'Okay google, how to do lugnuts on a Scenicruiser' or 'Hey Siri, How to operate a cordless impact gun' Knowledge acquired, job done :) The new generations are doing things that were only science fiction even just 20 years ago, and preserving old knowledge in the process. There's a huge difference between old people. One of my grandmas learned how to use a computer, do online banking and e-mail and stuff when she was already 75 years old. My other grandma has literally never touched one in her life, except for the tablet of her children to watch family pictures. Same goes for every other generation. With the side note, that many people from the current generation are living in condos and don't have the space for big mechanical jobs, or have more money than time to spend on things because of the long hours people work these days (until you've "made it"). This is especially noticable in the number of young folks who take on bicycle wrenching as a hobby. Those things are small and only moderately greasy.

[@paulbeckett1256]

Its no good being frightened to get your hands dirty lol!!!!

[@manfredschmalbach9023]

"But the Millennial won't know any better .... " 😂😂

[@joelsanford]

As he tries to figure out how to switch the impact direction, HAHA!

[@Studio23Media]

Millennials would at least know how to reverse the impact 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@davidowen888]

The Spikes "O" Death and that Air tank thought it was a steam whistle 😅

[@ryandavis7593]

The hatchet is for egress which is required by DOT and FRA passenger coaches. Usually they are covered in shatterproof glass with a little tiny hammer to break it out. Shatterproof so no one gets cut. It sounds like a joke but it is true.

[@chrisvig123]

Wow that things a rolling death trap 😯

[@anthonyyoung7344]

Is that a 60 series detroit.

[@notajp]

Ive always thought the Scenicruiser was the quintessential Greyhound bus...

[@thegodblogger3812]

Same for me. They were Hollywood stars.

[@shockingguy]

Get some small flat bars, you know flat crowbars you can pop those caps off real quick with the leverage you get on that bent end

[@davidstiver4240]

Sorry Scott I had to laugh when u when down in the thing tent 😂

[@Studio23Media]

Millennials won't know any better about left handed threads on the lug nuts, but then he had to ask how to reverse the impact... 🤔🤦🏻‍♂️

[@j-pg7246]

Makes me feel for working on coaches back again! But to afford one I'd have to work on quite a bunch on other's...

[@ericouellette5293]

Myself I hate the lug nut covers. We have them on a few trucks. I don't like them cause they can hide problems like a loose lug nut. Thankfully the truck I run doesn't have them. King pins could be worse the internationals we have just can't replace the king pins have to replace the whole axle. They don't even make replacement king pins for them. That's what international told the boss. I always check my hub oil about 2 times week just to make sure the oil level is good and no water is getting in. I also check the backside to make sure it's not leaking. The drive axle I just make sure there is no leaks. Must be doing something right my truck is the least in the shop for things that should be caught during a pre or post trip. I don't like being broke down on the side of the road. Of course it does happen unfortunately but for me it's things that I can't control like a o ring for a fuel line or a air compressor going out with no indication it was going.

[@josephkanowitz6875]

ב''ה, what do you use for bearing grease on these? Kind of fascinated with what molybdenum is supposed to do but not sure of the toxicity in industrial quantities. Any tips on getting into this as a career?

[@DormantIdeasNIQ]

The term for the 'pointy' things is: MadMax Death Spikes

[@maximolopezsr9399]

Scott , I know that you allow the owner to work on there busses, but this guy with the cenic Buss don,t even know how to hold a screw driver

[@JimTheZombieHunter]

What the heck is that little bottle jack at 19:07? My Blue-Turd has destroyed a pair of "ten ton" bottles.

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

The front axle weighs 12k. So it’s well under the rating. There are two jacks one on each side. Also note that there is no hydraulic lift on the cylinder it’s just being used as a stand.

[@jimjonrs3932]

Series 60 are bullet proof.

[@eddiepatterson5025]

That kingpin loose that’s scary and dangerous.

[@Goldarrow.89]

@17:21 Who in the right mind put peanut butter in there

[@steveroy6334]

You need to build a crash kart

[@saintm1680]

Hey is that Lance?

[@Rockin_Roll]

Somehow, I knew.... (a couple a minutes, before you did it) ....that air tank release was gonna do that, and I forgot to bring my hip waders... *YIKES* Ask him if the phrase "Soup du Jour" means anything to him...?....!!!!!

[@dudeofrare]

If you put the water/oil (or grease) in a separate container (milk/water jug) and leave it sit long enough the water will separate out.

[@brianpercival1829]

I just watched Arnold in Red Heat. What they did to 2 buses. HAHAHA, you gotta check it out.

[@bellezayverdad]

Do modern buses use disc brakes?

[@blauer2551]

Are you in Michigan by chance?

[@lloydrobinson7081]

good video, keep them coming

[@francistheodorecatte]

how many times has that odometer rolled over?

[@markbehr88]

Love these things

[@valvemonky4734]

hope that kingpin is getting sorted