Schiff: How To Improve Movement And Melody

Andras Schiff's Piano Masterclass on Schubert's Moments Musicaux. In this clip Schiff looks at the Allegro moderato in F minor, and talks about how to get the best movement and the execution of the melody. The full 57 minute masterclass, recorded at The International Musicians Seminar at Prussia Cove, is available to buy at our download store - bit.ly/SchiffSc... & DVD store - bit.ly/MMFDVDstore
Student: Cornelia Herrmann
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[@praxisdev1884]

Schiff’s touch is incredible

[@thomasjohn5037]

It's like they are playing on different pianos such is the difference in the sound.

[@johnkiunke4508]

1:54 I don't know how, but I immediately understand the piece 10x better hearing him play like this. Such character in those bass notes and crescendo

[@ir0n2541]

He is so delicate, you clearly see and hear a contrasting difference between the lady and schiffs playing.

[@jeanpierrecarabas5508]

he is the MASTER !!

[@user-de3th7yd6y]

SEEMS LIKE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE EVEN TO MIMICK HIS.

[@Zephyrus47]

@@user-de3th7yd6y I now practicing to play like him. I'm starting by playing as soft as I possibly can with my fingers straight or cupped. Tension - not allowed! Fluidity - yes!

[@AhbibHaald]

@@Zephyrus47 How did it go?

[@touchemusicale6784]

Andras schiff is such a great Teacher it's insane !!

[@clapton79]

touche musicale he is so humble, his inner silence radiates even when he speaks.

[@quaver1239]

clapton79 : Beautifully and perfectly said, you :-)

[@ua6523]

This is exactly how class is and should be. The student has provided excellent material to us audiences in the form of her tension, her hesitancy and her mistakes....all of which makes for an industrious student because if you really look at it she wouldn't be invited to his masterclass if she wasn't bloody good. Her touch maybe mellow but highly lyrical and Schiff has addressed that about her. This class does please me because pianists no matter how great or simple DO MAKE MISTAKES. It is not wrong. Making mistakes are certainly not wrong. What we do afterwards is what really defines who we are. I get that this video is over 3 years old and she probably has moved on to much greener pastures but I would like to address the fact that she is resilient, a wonderful pianist and a willing student. When the student is ready the teacher will arrive. What a teacher came! Much encouragement to all students and teachers who are constantly learning, bettering themselves and refusing to give up being their highest best possible selves through their expression of music. Love this video! Thank you The Masterclass Media Foundation you do brilliantly as well. We are very thankful for your every effort to provide excellence in music education. Well done!

[@shadowjuan2]

I do agree with much of what you say. But pardon me if I’m wrong, but at least in the video I believe she is making no mistakes, every correction by Schiff is musical-wise, to make the music flow better.

[@ua6523]

@@shadowjuan2 Thank you for your reply :) I do appreciate your comment. Forgive me for not being specific. I should have been more clearer to confirm that my view of said mistakes made needn't ever necessarily be in term of notes. In her case she made no note errors. I was referring to exactly what you pointed out in that in terms of lyricism and musicality she did sound heavier and less delicate than Schiff's playing. That by itself cannot be counted as an error. However, in a masterclass of that level I find it important not to negate the human factor and allow for interpretations different from prescribed convention. Interpretations that pose as a risk being branded as mistakes (possibly because change of any sort is often not preferred as much as permanence is) are allowed in this masterclass as shown here, I find it to be more encouraging and refreshing than most. You see from a personal viewpoint I'm used to seeing pianists in masterclasses such as this one to be perfectionists, highly critical and mercilessly fatalistic where every error even if negligible is deemed as unacceptable. People may or may not identify/agree with my view but I'm glad that healthy discussions are encouraged. Having said that when I see a masterclass where a different point of view is not deemed as an error at best but is seen for what it is and then is worked on from there gives me hope. My comments are basically meant to serve as encouragement to anyone reading them and have them understand that it is not the end of world if your body language shows frustration, that your playing isn't close to flawless and that it does take more than a few tries (as we see in her case) just to get the nuances of musicianship close to what the teacher is asking out of her. What one must value.. what matters most is how one learns. It's encouraging that I see no condemnation, no passive aggression and no judgement between teacher and student and audience alike. Just a wholesome lesson where healthy learning and discussion are encouraged. I hope this much makes matters easier for you to understand. I wrote this much just to have you understand where I'm coming from and to as much as possible minimise any loss in translation. Thank you once again for pointing my error out. I do appreciate it :) Thank you :)

[@Zephyrus47]

The way he plays it is so much better. Anytime he does these masterclasses, the student plays and it's pretty good, but he gets up there and plays it so elegantly and soft

[@rubengreenberg2253]

Great artists have more imagination than the rest of us. That's what makes the crucial difference.

[@jrthiker9908]

Brilliant comments and insight by Schiff. Anyone can play the notes, when you get to his level it's all about the subtle shifts of rubato, time between the notes, color, lilt....everything Viennese. Simpler yet more profound. Even the great jazz pianists do the same. It's why we study with great musicians...to learn and have the traditions passed to us. No one really plays well in a master class, that's the point...it's about the teacher's wisdom, not the student's playing.

[@zuhairbakdoud1360]

Schiff has an incredible technique!!! He plays the most incredibly difficult pieces as if they very easy..

[@thegreenpianist7683]

Not only iss he a master pianist but his voice is also really good, this was a great video

[@kliberalsing]

Yes.

[@Pathy1]

He is an astonishing teacher too! Could listen to his masterclasses on and on if I had the time.

[@LawrenceLan]

YOUR PROFILE PIC

[@martarenardowitsch3634]

He (with an inimitable mischievous little smile on his face): "But it is, o f c o u r s e, a little more sinister." :-) Me: Sensorial goosebumps all over and over. What an ultimatively filigree poetry of music!

[@AL-pu7ux]

So many pearls. The comparison of upbows really helps convey the right sound for the left hand

[@extanegautham8950]

I love Schiff. he is so gentle, even the way he moved his hands for her to stop....he is so knowledgeble and loves to teach a bit even at concerts...will never forget the one concert i have heard from himm...

[@TorAndreKongelf]

Schiff is one of those last pianists that has his own sound and touch. Thats how you can play the old pianists difference by just playing a simple note.

[@chrish12345]

just as Hegel predicted the end of history ?

[@seanstmd29]

Schiff is the man.

[@Petermaguire3684]

just playing this recently, never got the idea the staccato notes at the beginning could be horses, so vivid. I also sing my rumpabums when I'm playing it :)

[@jonashasageremtkjrjensen]

0:06 and 0:51 for comparisons

[@jorgegarzaelli6238]

Andras ist no a wonderfull musicien but also a wonderfull person, for sure - from Argentina Thanks

[@carolleenkelmann4751]

he's got a nice sounding voice too.

[@potsdam521]

Its amazing how you can distinguish virtuoso playing not by hearing but by just looking at the hands, they are so smooth on the touch, no a single movement is awkward, as for the rest of us there some kind of struggle going on in the hands 😂

[@vvtt9449]

How different it sounds..

[@JoeLinux2000]

After it's all said and done, you have to arrive at your own way of playing any composition in a way that is convincing.

[@izabellamardo1074]

Além de ser um excelente pianista, possui grande amor pela música

[@izabellamardo1074]

I Love Andras Schiffer

[@mikewillis2934]

Wonderful to see and listen to

[@saltag]

He talks about viola in almost every masterclass lol

[@MominMalikYT]

viola da gambaaaaa

[@Sshooter444]

Viola is the middle voice and accompaniment

[@martarenardowitsch3634]

Then obviously, he loves the lyrical melancholia of viola (of course :-), which is such a lovely and fully underrated instrument indeed. How wonderful.

[@roberacevedo8232]

Drum masterclass Drummer plays: Schiff: Yes, I'm hearing a the viola here.

[@jrthiker9908]

I thought the same! And if you listen to his live 2015 Goldberg Variations from The Proms you can hear him bringing out all the interesting and odd middle voices, especially in the later variations. As if a solo viola was playing. Viola was Mozart's favorite instrument, also.

[@Frankness9]

The people in the comments speaking ill of the student are obviously no musicians.

[@dressedtosmellgood]

i thought she was a great sport

[@vlavla9673]

Das ist so schöne! Ich habe nicht gewusst dass das Klavier ab und auf so wie ein Bogen spielen kann.

[@adonisadmirer2752]

Spielt es hier wie ein Bogen? In welchem moment ist es so? Enschuldigen Sie mein Deutsch

[@user-de3th7yd6y]

3:10 BY THE WAY SHE'S SO BEAUTIFUL...

[@user-de3th7yd6y]

03:08 why that regard !! She s so beautiful

[@maxkat1749]

but you have to decide which it is ( the accompaniment) - horses or the viola upbow - horses will clip along on a constant tempo , but the upbows will be on (what we call) the back end of the beat. so it sounds like the performer has a choice to make in the interpretation - no?

[@bobbyk1684]

At 2:32 there is a background bang that matches with the beat and pitch.

[@SpontaneityJD]

2:31

[@wordwatcher9495]

A lot a tough guys in these comments acting like they wouldn't shit their pants if they were in her shoes.

[@MrMawnster]

😂

[@dibaldgyfm9933]

He looks so young, Andras S. when was this from?

[@juleeez628]

0:08 0:55

[@beibeimiao2327]

♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@1992FLOCKAFLUEGGE]

Fire ass sample

[@SpontaneityJD]

lmao word

[@p1anosteve]

He explains with convincing authority. Can you imagine Lang Lang trying to explain to an Austrian student how to play Schubert? While he might understand the cultural and historical background, it would just not be the same.

[@madbeethoven9386]

It's stupid to compare. Lang Lang will use his own way to teach. Why even try to bring it up? Just praise Schiff if you want.

[@JSBach-mg6qd]

p1anosteve Asians don't know shit about our culture and they're not musical at all

[@madbeethoven9386]

J.S. Bach Say that loud to Mr Schiff and see what he thinks

[@gwedielwch]

J.S.Bach You cut yourself off from some of the very greatest performances of classical music. Masaaki Suzuki and the Bach Collegium Japan. Fou Ts'ong. Mitsuko Uchida. Yuji Takahashi.

[@og6430]

gwedi elwch It's just not the same. While they all play marvelously, they just don't have the cultural background. The best interpretations always come from musicians who know the composers culture by heart. Why are Rubinstein and Zimerman the best Chopin interprets? There are certainly other great Chopin pianists but these two are truly polish. That's the difference. By the way: Uchida grew up in Austria, that explains why she is such a great interpreter of Mozart and Schubert.

[@ameliebayer4241]

Which song is it?

[@shreyaskaushal1657]

Anna Will , Allegro Moderato in F minor

[@nobodysalterego2832]

Franz Schubert - Moment musicaux no. 3: allegro moderato in F minor.

[@chrish12345]

'you have to separate the melody from the accompaniment' = ouch

[@paulmetdebbie447]

3:10 Sweet. Pupil looks at Master. I am doing better this way?

[@NothingFunnyAboutTheseCarpets]

Hmmm I can feel the awkwardness when she tries to do what a schiff said. Masterclasses are really tough, I mean, you learn a lot, but it’s so hard to incorporate what they tell you to do instantly...

[@brunoescoto9630]

She clearly haven’t study this piece enough. Or maybe she is not that good. She should feel proud of having a masterclass with Andras Schiff.

[@ChrisBreemer]

Of course she is good, and of course she has studied the piece most intensively. You don't even get into a masterclass otherwise. Then again however good you are, and however good you know a piece, a master like Schiff will find a zillion things to improve. Schiff is VERY finicky though, and not inclined to praise much. It must be immensely frustrating for s student, especially if he all but pushes you from the keyboard to do it himself. That, IMHO and with all respect to Schiff, is probably not the best type of teaching. Though we only see a short fragment here, which may not be typical.

[@tedgrant2]

What a frightening teacher. Everything I do is wrong. Never mind, I'll hide from him when I play.

[@jorgeidelsohn]

Despues no toca asi en publico para 1000 oyentes.....

[@ruperttmls7985]

Bueno es que echarse los 48 preludios y fugas de memoria y continuos, en algo debe fallar... XD

[@michaelsolomon6594]

She’s not listening to him

[@rothschildianum]

This woman has no ability to hear and to imitate. It is surprising that she can have a masterclass with Schiff!!!

[@user-dj5ev8ru1f]

Its probably more a problem in her technique then her hearing. Most people cannot play something the way they want to because their technique slows you down.

[@justadude641]

He spoke too much and nothing at the same time.