Schizophrenia and why I encourage medication

Stopping medication without a grounded understanding of how to stand against the enormous upcoming pressures is a recipe for disaster. In this video, I talk about why that is.
#schizophrenia
#medications

[@bluemountaine]

Salam. When you said that what we want is to succeed, thank you, you reminded me that in the call to prayer in Islam, it says "come to prayer, come to success", and in my understanding of all that I have been through, this lays an important stone for me. Regarding the treatment, I believe that basically the most difficult thing to accept in the times in which we live is this idea which is in the Koran: "and very little has come to you from science". This life is a test, and this disease or condition is part of the test. I don't see how we can get out of this, like any other problem, without God's help. He reminds us to Him and to be humble before Him. If this ordeal could be a cause for entering paradise, and a cause for escaping hell, then alhamdulillah (thanks God). I'm sharing this with you because I have to, and because I believe you want people's good, and I want my good, and yours too. May Allah guide us and give us a good health.

[@themorningmist99]

Thank you for your words. I appreciate it 🙏

[@hamidsohab7927]

Definitely helpful. Thank You man!

[@Szszsa]

amazing advice

[@thesincitymama]

Funny cuz… I got here by following a comment you left on another video two years ago. Back then, you told a success story of how you wanted to quit your meds but the doctor was opposed. You said you quit anyway all by yourself, and that you recovered on your own after that. You said this on the video “schizophrenia recovery without medication” by Daniel Mackler (I’m doing this research trying to help my son)

[@themorningmist99]

That's awesome :) Yes! I certainly did those things that I wrote under that video. To this day, I'm still 100%. No psych doctor. No meds. No symptoms. No regrets. I know it's a challenging journey, but I pray my story and other video(s) were able to inspire some hope within your heart. Hope is in short supply with this illness, but that's what makes it so much more valuable. All the best to you and your son. I pray he finds his way within the mist that's always ready to persuade and capture the mind away from finding its way out. If you've any questions or suggestions, please feel free to share.

[@mariofalco9083]

May I ask what meds and dosage has worked best for you long term?

[@themorningmist99]

None. But, some have found stability and hope through some. I, unfortunately, wasn't one of those.

[@DaDesiDon1]

i dont know if you made this but can you make a video on schizophrenia and self doubt

[@themorningmist99]

I can definitely talk about that. It's a tremendous roadblock in the way towards recovery

[@justice4935]

What do you think about giving someone their meds without them knowing. This person refuse to take it correctly and they keep getting really ill repeatedly. That is the case with my brother and now the meds barely works anymore.

[@themorningmist99]

This brings to mind the saying, "Desperate times calls for desperate measures." I definitely understand why someone would want to do this. The desperate situation calls for action. My first thought after reading this was, "I don't like the deception because it's against the person's will." But then I thought about how in the hospitals, they'll strap you down to a bed and force medicate you. So, is there no difference? Consider it like this, in the hospital the hope is that the medication will bring the person back and they'll realize they need those meds and therefore continue to take them, this time of their own free will. It's easier here because the patient already knows they're being medicated. With your scenario, the individual has no idea they're being medicated, and so if they start to do better, then they won't know why. If you tell them, then you not only risk offending them, but they'll never trust you again and never give you the opportunity to do the same thing again. That's if they're offended. They might not be, but there's a higher likelihood that they would be offended and hurt. You'll have two choices, either you give them the meds against their knowledge and do it for the rest of your lives, or you tell them after they come down and are stable, and risk the relationship. If they're doing better without the knowledge of being medicated, then they'll see no reason to be on meds if you try to convince them of take them, making it more likely that you'll have to come clean. Also, if they're experiencing some of the many potential negative side effects, you risk creating other avenues of stress because they'll have no idea why they're experiencing those things. They'll be seeing doctors and therapists, and all the while ignorant that these are medication side-effects, and doctors could possibly prescribe other medications for those symptoms or side-effects. And then you've to consider that maybe any new medication should be checked against what she's already on so as not to create any further disturbances within her symptom or potentially injuring her, or worse. Now, if you were to tell them the truth after all of that, then again, you risk the relationship and, depending on what happens to her, possibly worse. These are some worst-case scenarios, but they should be considered before thinking this is a good idea. So, considering what you have to lose vs what you've to gain, can you say it’s worth the gamble? That's going to be up to you to decide. What are you willing to lose? And what else would/could it cost them if they experienced such betrayal? It would reinforce any paranoid delsuions they may hold, and that might be a better of the many potential outcomes. Hopefully, this helps with weighing out the scales of the problem. With these sort of illnesses, you'll often find that there are no convenient roads to travel.

[@LaurenMarie433]

I still experience symptoms and am on a low dose of medication. I'm not upping my meds but want to recover fully. Do you think it's possible to do that while on meds or do you have to take down the barrier of the meds and face it all in order to recover. I have insight that what they say isn't true. But the fear, anxiety, body movements, and feelings seem so overwhelming and I get scared and want to run for meds again. I also don't want to put my spouse and 2 children through me being unable to function well again. Like I said I still have symptoms here and there and I want to take my life back. I'm trying to have faith, but obviously not there yet since I'm still "trying". I feel this is happening because of bad decisions I made in the past so it's hard for me to think I can be saved from this through faith because this is God's way of punishing me. During the worst of my psychosis I was told to be selfless, to love others not myself. If I do anything for myself I would get punished and chastised, I would be told of things from the past and things of the future. And even though I came to a point where I wouldn't believe I had to do what they were telling me, the guilt and shame remained. They told me I have to feel the pain of everything I've ever done wrong and feel the pain of others. I was made to see through the eyes of others and heard the thoughts and feel the feelings of others that I supposedly hurt. I'm just still terrified of going through full blown psychosis again. Like I said I still experience mild symptoms, anxiety and head pressure/pain being one of them and occasional voices. But I'm able to live my life anyway without believing them. I want to get to true understanding and have so much faith that I eventually fully recover. Do I have to come off of them to really be rid of the voices for good? I guess part of me wants to keep the safety net of the medication so it doesn't get too bad and risk my job and kids being affected negatively by me facing everything. You found your faith through the Bible and through self discipline, a lot of my psychosis revolved around the Bible and now I'm afraid it's a trigger for me. I am obviously lacking in true understanding right now. But after writing all of this I guess I want to say thank you because you give me hope that one day I will have that understanding and will be strong enough to face it all and have faith that I will recover fully regardless of how bad it gets. You're an inspiration. Your videos have helped me so much.

[@themorningmist99]

Hi Lauren. I'm happy to hear that these videos inspire hope within you. I hope they'll continue to help you in your moments of need. What you're experiencing is very difficult when not on meds. That much is certain. As for the question, can you still achieve recovery as I describe it while on meds? Absolutely. If you're experiencing symptoms, then that safety allows you to practice acquiring the mind necessary to face the storm and speak to it. Those break through symptoms are your opportunity. A tightrope walker will walk the same rope when there's a safety net vs when there's none. When there's no net, the struggle against yourself increases in intensity. But using the net gives you the opportunity to learn about yourself, how your mind works, how fears and their illusion creeps in, and how you respond. You gain the ability to grow in understanding while remaining safe. Instead of battling many demons, you learn how to battle them one or two at a time. See the opportunities that are being given to you, and don't allow the lies to convince you you've been cursed by God and this is your reward. I felt the same condemnation, guilt, and shame, but here I am, completely free of that torment. If I was wrong, couldn't it be possible you're also wrong? I was told I blasphemed the holy ghost, and I was doomed to suffer like that for the rest of my life, and I believed it, and I suffered because I believed it. Things changed when I dared to doubt my doubts. It wasn't easy, but what else had I to lose? If i'm going to suffer in fear, then I might as well suffer in hope and courage. Do you understand? "Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, BELIEVE that ye RECEIVE them, and ye shall have them." - Mark 11:24 Not future tense, but present tense. You can't receive while in fear and doubt, but that's where this illness keeps us, in a state where we cannot receive/believe any good thing. Dare to believe. Dare to doubt your doubts.

[@LaurenMarie433]

@@themorningmist99 Thank you so very much.

[@mariofalco9083]

May I ask what meds you are on and dosage? I’m trying to maintain with lower dosages but am failing

[@LaurenMarie433]

@@mariofalco9083 I'm on 3mg of abilify. I know it's hard to deal with. I wish you the best.