RUNE GUIDE - What stats to look for on what sets? (Summoners War)

[@zerovermilion8715]

Energy: HP%, Def%, SPD, Accuracy, Resistance Guard: Def%, SPD, HP%. Bruiser tanks with def scaling can go Crit Rate and Crit Dmg, but supportive monsters should take Accuracy or Resistance, depending on if they buff more or debuff more. Swift: If it does not have SPD, autosell. I mean it. Refer to Guard for more details, but also add Atk% on the offensive swift units. atk scaling swift units can include Seara, so try to see what the monster you HAVE can do, before keeping these runes. Blade: Crit Rate, Crit Dmg. The rest depends on the damage scaling of your units. Oh, and SPD is also a must-have. Don't use on Leo btw, as other 2-sets are more useful. Rage: Same idea as Blade, but some units whom rely on conditions and can fully crit, like Naomi requiring ONE debuff to crit, or Water Penguin requiring just defense break to autocrit... Those would need no extra crit rate. Otherwise, try to get 70% minimum crit rate before you lock these runes onto a monster. Focus: Lacking accuracy, but if you put accuracy on 6 you lose a lotta defensive stats? Take these sets. SPD, Acc, HP, Def. Normally, Resistance is best as the innate rather than one that could be upgraded, but there are a few exceptions. Take this rune for any debuff focused supports like Loren or even strippers like Chiwu. Fatal: Any earlygame atk type monster uses this. Atk, Crit Rate, Crit DMG, SPD, Accuracy. All those are enough, try to get DEF or HP on slot 3 fatal runes if the other stats are present (atk cannot exist in slot 3) Despair: Got AoEs, multi hits, or revenge effects? This rune is for that monster. Probably except Feng Yan, who can do way better with Violent to have a permanent revenge buff. Vampire: This one's for your solo farmers. Astar with this set can solo Charuka Hell, giving the highest exp per run to all your monsters and skyrocketing your exp farming significantly. Get ATK, Crits, Def, and HP. SPD and ACC are dependent to the monster's kit. Leo can really benefit from this set if he doesnt get speed out of it. Violent: "When in doubt, go violent". Probably the most flexible rune set in the whole game, because anyone with this can do good if they really work at it. ANY stat works, just as long as it got speed, and stats dependent on their role in the team. Nemesis: Turn cycling. If the unit has a good heal (i.e. Praha), a good game-changing ability (i.e. Verad), or a scary amount of utility when he starts getting turns (i.e. Verd or even Veromos!), they can use this rune. Try to get Defense to soften the hits the unit gets, because if they die trying to cycle, it's kinda pointless. Also, SPD and HP are good here too. The rest depends on what the monster does. Will: If your support is below 250 speed; If your dps is a Lightning Emperor; If you have a slow damage team (excluding fat lushen from this), take Will into PvP. This can help force the enemy to committing one slot to a stripper, which then gives you more space to deal with their stuff. Try to ban their scariest cc unit afterwards, but in any other case, this is a really strong rune set. DO NOT USE MORE THAN ONE ON EACH UNIT. Flexible to adapt to the needs of many monsters. Shield: Good for supports, Necropolis, and even Lightning Emperor teams. Revenge: Does your unit have a good 1st skill that can be used to cc, farm, or even just do a lot of poke? Take this rune and grab the same stats as you would get on Nemesis sets. They can actually be interchangeable with several monsters. Destroy: This is good for bruisers who want to chip down the enemy's max HP, especially to the really good scaling ones like Ramagos or Skogul. Try to put this on bruisers rather than dps units, as many dps units rely on ending the enemy quickly rather than hitting them for a second full commitment combo. Fight/Determination/Enhance/Accuracy/Tolerance: Rune sets are used when you need the team to get just a tad bit more stats to do what they need to do efficiently. Fight is good for BJR5 comps, for example. Determination is great for bruisers, as well as the Enhance set. Accuracy is good for a lot of debuffing supports. Tolerance is just Endure, split into all allies for less individual set bonus. (12% res to all, instead of 20% res to user). These are all just to allow your units to get what they need to do, done, and in a bit easier way. Also complimentary for some units that lack just a little bit of the stat they need. Notice that each one start sounding adaptive the lower you get to the list? It's because it starts getting flexible with each use, and eventually becomes so flexible that it heavily depends on the units that you equip them on, and even their team compositions. Bruisers want HP, DEF, RES, Crits, and some SPD. Other stats are optional. Nukers and DPS want Atk, Crits, and SPD. Accuracy is optional and DEF and HP are for survivability. Debuffer supports want SPD and Accuracy, and then good HP and Defense. The rest are optional and ATK and Crits are unnecessary. Buffers want SPD. A ton of it. Then they want HP, Def, Acc, Res, in that order. Nothing else matters to them. Bombers want SPD, Atk, and Acc. Nothing else is necessary, but some HP, DEF, and RES will be fine as innates. There are exceptions to these "archetypes", but they're a good way to classify units. Check their skills, their base stats, and then decide what runes are best for them.

[@zerovermilion8715]

This entire comment should probably be a Reddit thread instead, in hindsight...

[@deedoss5714]

what about if its a slot 2 speed rune, then what do you look for, on swift i mean

[@brianhill1818]

Is this for main stats or sub stats

[@Farycane]

"Mana is easy to get" Cries in poor

[@tomerfeldman5278]

me after spending 50m mana this week have to agree with Bagel farm nb12 u get 2m for couple runs

[@klaps2463]

@@tomerfeldman5278 does nb12 drop more than giants or something?

[@epilafios2503]

I have so many + 6 runss that have crazy sub stats and I can't lvl them up it's so sad

[@zzace00]

Another piece of info that might help some people who want high spd rolls or triple rolls in general, purple runes have a 1/27 chance of triple rolling where as legend runes have a 1/64 chance of triple rolling. So if you aren't super endgame, purple runes are a great way to get some high spd runes

[@loveless9349]

Please remember that this guide is for OPTIMIZATION. Using offsets is totally viable. If a rune seems like it could be good, even if it's a bad set, give it a power up! If it rolls well, you might be able to use it. My Naomi (who I use for G12, Siege, GW, Ice Rift) is runed TRIPLE ENDURE! Because I keep getting really good Endure runes with 25 Crit Damage. She has +11k hp, +1500 atk, +55 spd, and 241 CD. The Endure runes also put her at 100 Resistance! She can one shot Skoguls and is an incredible unit, but this isn't supposed to be a Naomi review. The point is, yes, if the same set was Rage she would have 281 CD. But would I really use that Rage set on Naomi? No, I'd put it on a fat Lushen. Do what you have to. There's no shame in using wonky rune sets if the stats are good.

[@johnturtle6649]

this is how I runed my tatu with guard/endure/energy the runes just rolled all the good stats she needed, and she ended up with excellent extra hp and 100% res with passable defense. she can hang in giants already and I haven't six starred her yet. she ended up with 172 speed which is perfect for the dungeon and shes also the slowest member which makes her go last, it all worked perfectly. all because I followed the same basic advice you are advocating here.

[@Zipnologic]

Dude, you can do a hundred of this same content, and I'll watch every one. It is a good refresher and reminder of where your standards should be at, for where you're at in the game progressively... it's good practice to do some aspects redundantly, like the way a sports player or martial artistis who practice a movement over and over.

[@traceythompson7895]

Thank you Bagel! I got so much from this video. Most runes I keep have stats that don't synergize. This is gonna point me in the right direction, if the right runes can just drop now. Keep up the good work. Farm more runes!

[@Chewboom]

Jewbagel when he sees 5 star runes: “So anyways I started blasting”

[@godsgamer7494]

38:40

[@zerovermilion8715]

b12 exists because midgame demands people will abandon all runes below 6 stars in preparation of midgame PvP and even towards the transition to lategame.

[@DeirdreSM]

You are a genius, as I was literally looking for this video last night.

[@johnfluffles7442]

The whole time he was explaining the runes i was taking notes great info :D

[@NemNemSD]

Ive watched this video over 100 times just to make my rune standards higher everytime i farm. It really helps!! Tysm!

[@jpiii6051]

31 min in. Still here. I needed that. Have a good idea what to sell/keep, played Raid for over 2 years. But wanted to see a vid like this. It's an old vid but still relevant. Love your vids.

[@drewmkats]

Your description of Vampire explains why runing Laiki seems so difficult. Appreciate the breakdown

[@aldothelizard6669]

Your fast lushen, in fact, is faster than my turn 1 booster 😭

[@aldothelizard6669]

I just realised that violent is placed in the middle (core) 😂

[@oloveless1667]

Have you been playing the game?

[@EinManU]

*farm runes then*

[@hericide1]

@@EinManU exactly lol

[@lanersm56]

“You need more speed” -Bagel in 2020 & 2019 & 2018 & 2017 & 2016

[@olivierferland2429]

thanks dude, those video are really worth being listen to. its like months of experience and bad move in an hour video! keep up Bagel!

[@Store.Keeper.01]

@30:21 NO Bagel! I may not be one of those people who ask you for some rune guides but this really helps me what to keep or what to sell runes. For example, I kept too many blue and purple despair runes that have hp and defense mix with flat stats but don't have speed and accuracy stats, now I sold most of them and in return, it gave me more than million mana

[@moparjockle2542]

We need more rune crafting events it shines a light on topics like this and people benefit from the discussion it brings

[@danieldanger8835]

Just one thing i wanna say: i am waching this video because I like when you in person. i know which runes i should keep and which not. Keep going bagel

[@obi1cannoli700]

I swear.. it was like he was reading my mind. This was a video I wanted lol . NICE!

[@juanavendano6405]

In summary: I am speed

[@raki_raki]

Pin this bagel

[@blowmethreetimes8912]

Yup speed speed speed

[@Void99993]

My name is Barry Allen and I am the fastest man alive

[@MintBerryCrunch19]

In summary: I am molasses

[@jaxipoo]

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[@elijahharms935]

Thanks for doing these rune and dungeon videos even though you don't enjoy them, it is very selfless and I enjoy them.

[@alvinnnac]

Summary 101 "Spd" is important "Hp" need "Def" "Cr" need "Cdm" and "Atk" extra "Hp", "Def" is goood just sell Blue runes when u see one. Hero 6star is the Minimal Rune to catch. (with good substat ofc) Stupid "Inmate" rune like "Flat Defense, Flat HP" are good. because it wont be enchanced. Add yours 101 tips on the comment! Edit. "Innate Runes" and "Cdm" needs "Cr". cuz "Cr" is independent asf

[@TheKillerMB1]

ty

[@val-8073]

Mmeh, cd needs cr, but cr doesn't often need cd. Only 2a cats need 0 cr because of conditionnal rate

[@Luzarioth]

innate... not inmate XD neither those runes nor these stats are in prison ;P

[@EinManU]

oh theres also: -There are some bruiser-monsters that value crit - pretty much the only stat def/hp% runes dont want is atk%, and even that can work on stuff like fran/anavel who scale on practically anything -never keep flat main-stats on slots 2/4/6, except speed on 2, because there is no %speed. -the most important rune-set for 99% of players is violent, there are next to no monsters that cant use it - and violent likes offensive stats just as much as defensive ones, so youll just get more usable runes. FARM DRAGONS.

[@loveless9349]

Strongly disagree with selling all blues. If a blue has speed, a good 2nd sub, and a half decent innate, it's worth a try.

[@danielginn516]

so much info in that beanie covered head.

[@boonytoons7968]

I am actually a player that needed to watch this video. So thank you for the awesome info / content! I was able to confidently increase my rune standards after this.. NO MORE GARBAGE RUNES!

[@BlinkAnime69]

Nice guide, stats over sets

[@ΜαρίναΤσαπαρίδη]

You are first and didnt say first grats

[@stavroschloros-samuelian4487]

lol! I'm like "what am I going to watch for my rune power-up session?" well... thanks Mr.Bagel :DDDD

[@phelenacramer8472]

I didn't know and I watched the video and took notes. Thank you for making this particular video.

[@jfree672]

i mean the other videos could be 3 years old for all i care. nothing has changed about what runes to keep honestly.

[@Drazer012]

Yes, and most people wont ever find those old videos, so making an updated one never hurts. Be happy Bagel actually makes informative content about SW, its not super easy to come by anymore.

[@mylesg802]

The game and skills change therefore types of runes needed changes....

[@EinManU]

@@mylesg802 no they really dont need changes. its still just "get vio, be fast"

[@MrSharkman19]

Thanks bagel this will help a lot of people. Be kind to the people on twitch that don’t watch this video and ask rune questions lol

[@jewsus5044]

Just helping out with the algorithm. Nice video as almost always🤪

[@superfullvic]

I wish someone would make a visual chart out of this for decision making

[@cwaigio]

Good video, Bagel. I like these fat guides, would love to see more hostile takeovers and how to rune guides.

[@iraulajuanmiguel3553]

I've been waiting to this guide for so long.

[@stevemartin1133]

Jewbagel my lord and savior xD im kinda hardstuck midgame and this helps tremendously my man. Also just pulled fire monkey, excited to try him Josephine and taranys on def

[@lake2721]

Im also excited to use the same defense, but guildies are saying it will be bad

[@rendezvousonmemorylane]

BRUH Midgame is ENDLESS!!! I feel like I can't even progress unless I spend a $100 a week and it's sad that that's what endgame players do. FeelsPoorMan.

[@bobdylan5304]

Take a shot every time bagel says speed.

[@Antomaru]

i like the repeats brother keep it up. i like to listen to you while i'm doing other things and these videos are perfect for that

[@olegdoroshenko4836]

Fight, determination, enchance are all working for ally teams in R5. One can be put on some backline support like Lisa, Kona to give more stability to runs

[@nobrainerr_]

perfect timing i'm looking for this for ages ! Thanks bagel xoxo

[@Void99993]

I have been waiting for this video for years

[@lexjordan9910]

31:42 True. I'm just here give Bagel some watchtime.

[@Renzonio]

Hey man! I dont know if you still watch the reaction on the old video's. But this would be great to do once in a while. Just summoning and leveling runes. We can learn allot from this

[@DBushOP]

Hey JewBegal 👋, I'm happy to say I'm one of the people who needed this and actually watched lol. Thanks for all you do!

[@pFlouw66]

Thank you SO much i Really Appreciate videos like this And will Continue to Watch all of your Content ;)

[@MrHikagemono]

If i could do it, i would give him 2 likes for this. He is one of the few people who actually care for the questions of his viewers. Won't ever hear: just check my 1 year outdated video, and figure out the changes yourself. He just goes ahead and does it anew.

[@thebiggestn00bever]

I'm only half way to the video and just wana say thank you for this guide, you and the top comment guy will help me alot

[@linkmax5374]

41:38 this could be go with Fire Warbear (Ursha) usually people put him on despair but I believe he can do a lot of damage without the rage runes so idk 1:02:43 there are some exception for unit that need crt rate to do the debuff but I don't think you will need it on violent

[@laurenbrender3671]

I only just got notified of this video (thanks KZbin) but this is useful, thank you 🙂

[@jesse7838]

I knew ALL of that. And yes, i did still watch all of it

[@Daqsun]

Finally an updated guide

[@Neo_Fast]

first part i already knew about :) . however the rune crafting is imp for me to know how you see the runes and judge what to keep and what's not for efficiency

[@Lp0tr33]

I found your rune video from 1973. Otherwise your motto has always been "NEEDS MORE SPEED".

[@darkthrone3264]

that lush is fastest than my bernard *hearing bagel scream FARM MORE RUNEEES*

[@princetorrinraven1640]

Thanks Bagel,... Really needed this

[@blkdrgn18]

Hey bagel what I really want to know is how to know what runes are best for a monster build. For example, how do you know which runes are best to use on a certain monster, i.e. Colleen. How do you know which sets to use on certain mods. The skills don't tell you what rune does best with that skill. Like how do you know what runes to use with mons judging by their skill descriptions?

[@AndTheWhale7]

Nobody absolutely nobody: Bagel: Everybody's asking me what runes they should craft all the time every day!!!

[@wrexocane]

31:30 You caught me!

[@jahsqueezy]

appreciate the refresher. would be great if this idea was applied to specific monsters by attribute. not sure if you have done that before or it's been awhile

[@fateX1179]

I sold all of my runes after watching this video

[@okaybye747]

Omg YES Bagel thank you!

[@avigailmaymon8596]

Thank you so much for this video!!!!

[@mohammedriyadtaha8046]

I'm really watching this video because I watch your videos 😂😂

[@CAxFreshIcex]

Watched the whole hour and the only thing I learned was.. YOU WANT TO HAVE SPEED

[@Verxendox]

31:15 Sad but true. Bagel spitting some facts

[@sawma3714]

Do you guys just sit there, looking at your dungeon run and wait for the rune drop all day for many days on end? Cuz if not i donno how you get many good runes?

[@leeugo2070]

@jewbagel just want to mention that Despair rune does not go through accuracy check, so the unit can have 0 accuracy and will still despair stun 25% of the time. so you dont need accuracy if you are running despair unless the unit has skills that need them

[@Dudung_Gamezone]

i learned a lot.. thanks! more power!

[@Fatalinvesting]

What is the song at 41:15?

[@justingreene2592]

knew a good bit of the info, but also learned a few things ... like 70/30

[@MrShentov]

I already knew all that, just watching for the sake of watching you, exactly. May be just so use to your voice, huh.

[@dariovdo3237]

"So that's that for that" 😭✨🖤 7:04

[@SABRMatt2010]

y'know...I toss all 5 star 2/4/6 runes...except speed slot 2. The difference between 5 and 6 star is only 3 speed. If they roll super-efficiently, I don't see why you wouldn't keep them.

[@cruistz]

yeah bagel, your yapping video like this are way better than alot of crappy songs nowadays

[@IamCoalfoot]

"If it wasn't garbage, it could have been okay."

[@GLew94]

Would be nice if thresholds per stat were shared for Dung vs Raid vs PVP content - this is where I struggle a lot as a returning early-mid game player

[@AkISerge]

does bagel have any rune farming progression guide ? do i stick to fast safe b10 dungeons or farm 60% win rate b11 , when do you want yo grind dhole ?

[@youngjabba8099]

Kinda new to the game so.. this helps thanks

[@ninjarnb]

What do you think of a slot1 5-6 stars rare rune (and under) with main flat Atk+Hp ? Or a slot3 5-6 stars rune rare (or under) with main flat Def+Hp ?

[@_Stellar]

Thanks for the video!

[@artikkk15]

thank you for the tip!

[@zepvibe6719]

idk why accuracy rune is named accuracy i feel like it should be named precision or something like that

[@BellyBacon]

So in general: Know what monsters you have and what they do.

[@JessicaOliveira-dn2ez]

I just watching your video to watch your video 31:30m the real truth..play it on repeat

[@1993dakotafox2012]

Sorry I just came back to this game but isn't flat 2,4,6 still better for world boss?

[@potudolu3856]

80% of the runes need spd

[@Tirco00]

Man this help a lot thxxxx :)

[@thejoker4751]

best guid ever

[@arrogantf.m.p.8905]

Is there an update to this? I know some of these sets may not be as good now in 2022

[@svartamiel9556]

Welp bookmarking this guide to review later.

[@endlesswaltz1810]

So many legendary runes！you're A really lucky dog！

[@ItsRayful]

7:40 my rica enjoys her focus set alot I think

[@Ripmav]

thanks for the first part.

[@NoBody-el1pf]

From which rune i get first chance

[@trustmeimajedi]

Excellent

[@ganesanbalasubramaniam4198]

U should make end monthly rune craft keep or sell that would be helpful and what is considered good or bad.👍👍👍

[@HisamiKieta]

ok so I'm mid game (I think) I only struggle with b12 dragons (not consistent) I have all beasts S-SSS quite regularly, I do TOAH easily and here's my question: Should I even keep 5* purple runes? I max out my run inventory all the time... My critiria are: speed, no res, if it rolls flat, out. But then if I sell all of my 5* purple runes I end up with no runes at all xD

[@theverygrumpygreg9149]

Bagel doing a rune stat video. WHAT YEAR IS THIS?

[@amandatinkham3406]

What if you get a amazing 6* legend rune with all the stats you need for slot 2 but it all rolls in 1 stat that is not what you wanted. Should you junk it?

[@alecfoor2665]

I watched your video, and I'm still going to ask you questions. So you can continue to entertain me for a mutual benefit 🤪

[@fta2007]

if it is a flat 2/4/6 but has +6 speed on legend shouldn't you at least try to roll it for a ton of speed?

[@omni-archon4444]

Jewbagel you wrong 41:26 , that ruin could be kept and reappraised, Not everyone a G3 player