Schlieffen Secondary Damage Record!

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[@mmogeek1]

More realistic Schlieffen gameplay is pushing up to an island, slowly getting closer to secondary range and finding out that all your DDs are already dead and the rest of the team is hiding behind your CV xD

[@OrangeGuyBlows]

That's been my experience...

[@user-yc2pk5iy7e]

Same with Napoli

[@webdesign6776]

I'm finding that too, but they come out for behind you for a moment to steal your kill after your 2nds spent 120+ seconds melting down a ship or two to 100 hp

[@monkeyseemonkeydo1794]

lmao so true

[@M167A1]

I'm a DD mostly, I just LOVE looking up during a running fight to see half the team dead and the rest cowering in the back like Trekkies at a school dance

[@danielpetrasko2283]

Well, before Schliefen time, there was only one ship which u could do this, and Its Graf Zeppelin

[@jozseftoth9368]

And i saw a 330k damage replay of it. The guy did the same thing with 2 Lo Yang divmates. Zeppelin secondaries are(were?) more accurate though. Schlieffen has an average 30% hit rate, Zeppelin has over 40% But i think secondary meme Zeppelin is history, as you cannot choose secondary skills for a CV any more😢

[@wombat4191]

So it's basically the good ol' glorious Graf Zeppelin smoke crawler div, except that instead of the occasional plane there's occasional main gun salvo.

[@maxterhex]

Potato: dreaming about sap-secondary ship with crowling smoke. Napoli: Am I joke to you?

[@bigdata2783]

Giuseppe verdi new t9 italian bb with sap sec and crawling smoke: am i a joke to you.

[@KHR24C]

Giuseppe Verdi is gonna be interesting

[@papamoose1321]

@@bigdata2783 is it out yet? They say type of currency it’ll be available for

[@zacharytresidentdigimonenj3397]

@@papamoose1321 only doubloons, seemingly. No other way to get it. Dec 23rd.

[@rileychu4489]

@@bigdata2783 absolutely horrid dispersion on the sap secondaries tho...they are like us 127mm, very floaty and inaccurate past 8km

[@ShootinStarskies]

That was me in the Austin who charged with nothing left to lose near the end. We called out exactly what that division was going to do at the beginning but honestly, better payers are just better players, good game.

[@steeltrap3800]

A coordinated group of even average players, especially when it's purpose built to run a fairly absurd exploit, is all but certain to stomp the opposition. Hope you had a decent game regardless; I suppose it might have been interesting to have been on the other side watching, LOL.

[@coyote4961]

@@steeltrap3800 Only real way to counter it would to have radar cruisers light up the DDs and everyone together target them. Once the DDs are gone, its simple to focus down the schlef.

[@carstenhansen5757]

It was more coordination that saved the day for them.

[@vysearcadia522]

Secondaries are my favorite weapons in WoW. I remember people trying to do all sorts of secondary builds in German ships years ago from the Bayern and onward. Last one I think I saw was a Carrier secondaries build. But this one is just ridiculous and beautiful all the same!

[@evileraxis2625]

This mans secondary hits almost beats out my record number of secondary shells fired.

[@jakobmai2008]

BFK streams are criminal levels of fun and so worth it, thank you for the replay.

[@simons.7957]

With 2 Ships entirely devoted to supporting, dividing the 350k by 3 makes more sense and makes it seem less impressive. Playing like this looks like tons of fun tho.

[@NicktheMedic]

Nice commentary and it's always nice to see shout-outs to other content creators

[@frankfletcher_1]

This dude literally does better without using his main guns than I do normally

[@legiox3719]

Main reason why I quit the game. OP divisions like this in Random mode sucks for the other team. The game is basically over before the countdown timer finishes.

[@FELONIOUSBOLUSS]

I think the takeaway from this match is the Schlieffen is a really big DD

[@Salty_Balls]

We shouldn't be applauding this.

[@5abivt]

I just started playing a month ago. I’m about to get my Bismarck so pretty excited there but dam lol.. this was just epic to watch 🙌🏼. Great narration too 👍🏼👍🏼. A week ago I didn’t even realize this game was available on pc I just play legends on ps5. Looking forward to playing more !

[@xsouldriverx]

Thank gosh for secondaries no longer breaking. Also BFK has some great 1 liners. Dog barking at a keyboard

[@EqualizerLNF]

Abusing the division for smoke secondary farming but man, that is very clever and hilarious to watch ngl.

[@nobrainnoaim2060]

Oddly enough this kind of gameplay makes me excited/fearful of Atlantico I can't wait for it

[@levanlevani6365]

this is coordinated play, look how well those two destroyers smoke screen area and let the battleship do her job

[@Krankykracka]

The legends team heard about your SAP secondary desire and made it happen, colombo only loses 1km of range compared to schlieffen....

[@danotto2930]

Watched some of these matches live, super entertaining with the crawling smoke

[@flazederg6800]

man, its so cool to see 2 dd's escorting a bb :D

[@markdowne4629]

2:03 the fellow fletcher(not in the div) actually used his smoke to hide schlieffen lmao

[@MrGG-rz3he]

Bfk is out here reliving his Season 2 Supremacy League strats. German BB's into smoke baby.

[@Thor_Asgard_]

this is by no means a representative gameplay. with this much luck and well played support everything is possible.

[@TheSailingRobin]

Well... it is a team based game after all, and these madlads were teaming allright! :)

[@qmaximus5207]

@@TheSailingRobin Ayyy Robin, its nice to see you here

[@Gundolf300]

Weegee balance: - So now you cant shoot your main guns ONCE in smoke without reveeling your position? -Correct! - But you can fire your secondaries 648 times without getting spotted? -Next question?

[@intuii]

well since it has pretty much dd caliber as secondaries, they should be spotted too after shooting form smoke. then again it depends on the range and distance.

[@Gundolf300]

@@intuii Well, true I guess. 🤔

[@Slagterens]

This ship is insanely OP and stupid... WTF is the dev. team thinking most ships cant even escape this 34 Knots BB

[@JarlSeamus]

We've been doing this with a Vampire and 2 Napolis. We don't get this amazing a result, but it definitely makes people poop themselves.

[@creepersauros]

Looks so fun for the enemy team...

[@jozseftoth9368]

I usually not paying attention to the fun factor the has. If i want them to have fun, i go beach myself and let them focusfire the crap out of me. But no. I such a selfish scum

[@narwhalblast]

WG should ban +-1 platoons. Imagine FDR+Smaland+Musashi

[@jozseftoth9368]

Why not Yamato

[@russianbias8003]

>makes one of the most toxic comps ever made >calls it fun

[@anttihiltunen5216]

I think i had hilarious secondary hits in ranked(968) i was wrong, this is 💪

[@tyrantbane7948]

Sat Score and Overlord Bou were running this div setup a couple months ago.

[@OwenIsDaBoss]

Let me just say, that's mental. A record of some sort?

[@Kiryuu27]

GERMAN ENGINEERING

[@RajaRickin]

those dds , real all stars there

[@mikestion4629]

Oh lord. I want this ship.

[@boblabla6932]

Ummm ya, WGing is gonna hit this ship with the nerf bat for sure

[@belqwiniths1658]

The never ending squirt ship

[@Pliskkenn]

This make me really want to go up that line.

[@Swarm509]

I had this accidently happen with my Pommern, although with far less damage done. Was supporting a DD at cap and a few BB's had pinned me down near cap, although far enough away that the DD could still get on it un detected. I was facing the cap near the island and decided to just push to cover the DD and he smoked me into the cap. Managed to stop in the smoke and proceeded to secondary damage/burn down an Iowa and Colorado and another cruiser as they pushed in. It was cheesy as hell that a ship can sit so close just dumping out secondary fire with zero real counter, but that has been they way this game has been for so long with regards to balance.

[@Bonde7280]

In your case there was a counter. Patience. Sounds to me they just had to wait pushing, untill after the smoke had dissipated.

[@razvannedelcu3541]

Is he using a mod ? How do you see the range of your secondaries/AA guns or how much hp are you going to recover ?

[@EvoraGT430]

Yes they are mods. From Alsain's or Modstation

[@brcarter1111]

Where is this extra reload on secondaries after 100 hits on Lutjens? I'm not seeing it in his skills?

[@Whodaleewho]

Hmmm VFK I shall haf to check out this young lad named VFK

[@jedpratte]

Fun and engaging…

[@billymays4110]

Hope this braindead ship gets nerfed

[@shinoi_22]

2 Schlieffen and 1 Napoli is scary as fuck

[@Bushy556]

I haven’t looked hard into it but what’s the difference between these secondaries and the GK’s?

[@erlienfrommars]

Finally something really fun The only worry is when WG sees this and decided to destroy whatever fun this makes.

[@billl7548]

I MUCH prefer listening to you over BFK on Twitch

[@troxxor2236]

I had a lot of luck but I even broke the dmg record. Not the dmg exclusivly from the secondary's but I was able to deal 370k dmg. Alone with no help from a division

[@T1g3rd4v1d]

If WG watch this replay, next day instantly nerfing this ship. :(

[@rotarypower956]

I wish they add this ship to legends as a legendary be sick

[@gothia6515]

Hilarious replay. But no need to cry out for Schlieffen being op. These simping fanboy sidekicks in the DDs sacrifice everything to make this possible.

[@Mithril_Antimarr]

just 1 flag per badge would be fine, but the badges are pointless without them

[@HitomiNee]

@PQ would you happen to know the talents of his Lutjens?

[@TheJAX42]

VEEEERY GJ :)

[@rendevc4414]

this schlieffen is basically harugumo firing 20 guns in a smoke lmao this is the reason why iam regrinding tech tree, i want to get vampire II and gives smoke to schlieffens in my server XD i hope i can meet atlantico in my vampire II

[@n2t460]

1600 secondary hits omg... Most I've done in random op was 600

[@Harvin87]

Insane!

[@sashasol5899]

Super!

[@tntfreddan3138]

His sec dmg this game is almost equal to my overall dmg record (245k in the Kurrywurst)

[@davefromrocky]

yeah if you are lucky to have a team that remembers what smoke is for. This ship is too squishy.

[@FallenxMalo]

I'm surprised there's no secondary consumable that allows even lower reload time or more pen/dmg. :D The game will be completely broken if they buff GF to have comparable secondaries but way more health and armor.^^

[@jozseftoth9368]

The only aspect in which GK sec are better that they are all 128mm caliber, penning 32mm bow plating without IFHE, so they retain their higher fire chance. They also fire faster than the 150mms the Schlieffen has. But lack the accuracy

[@procs81]

But was he first in his team??????????

[@DaxRaider]

i think what u say is simply wrong xD my wargamings OWN statement, a ship always counts as the highest tier in a division when it comes ot matchmaker. so ur t9 ships count as t10 and just ingame when u entered a game with a t9 are matcfhed against one. otherwise they count as t10 and just can end in u getting t10 games with being the only t9 in

[@andrestorrado8099]

Did he use IFHE for his captain build?

[@Dropbare]

Yes. You go IFHE on KM 105s.

[@thundashockify]

Nerfs... here they come

[@marknerren402]

What good are other ships then?

[@rommel8433]

145k damage did with out any smoke or dd help not a big deal to do damage with secondary whne 2 dd helping u off course a boat player cant do this

[@Virgilfinnatell]

Would the division still work if the fletcher was changed to a Friesland/Groningen

[@Trigm]

Yes, but not as much, as the fletcher gets the really long US smoke.

[@danh7411]

yes, it will still work as Fries/Gron both have US smoke, tho not as maneuverable nor as stealthy as the Fletcher.

[@alyssadraculesti]

I got 3 letters for this JFC

[@EZE-007]

Subtitle in vietnamita wtf. Can you put the automatic English subtitle? plis

[@Macaroni139]

I mean, yeah. The wows playerbase wants secondary builds to be good and viable again, and we want more close range brawling and aggressive actions in our games But i think schleif took these wishes to far. Shes a bb, but with 2 mainz's on each side, and has a z23 on either side as well. I wouldnt be surprised if she gets nerfed. Ive played a couple of clan battles against her, and she would just w key into our spawn and pick up 2, maybe 3 kills by herself

[@zumum6331]

the secondaries are strong but schlieffen has major downsides. the 420s feel like odin or agir 305s. decent against cruisers but serious penetration issues against bbs @ range. i am constantly getting nonpens & bounces on broadside bbs over ~14 km. defensively she is super squishy. do not go broadside to a bb. you will get wrecked. as an example i played a ranked game last night where a montana popped out from behind an island @ 15 km & caught me broadside. he proceeded to greet me with a 65k damage salvo. in a gk that would have been more than half less damage. definitely feels more like a cruiser when taking damage. also she withers under sustained fire from bbs. played well she is awesome. make any mistakes and chances are you will be punished hard. i think she is balanced.

[@StaK_1980]

Anyone caring to share the fit?

[@marcusc3233]

I already try but got radar and died.......

[@manoffire7609]

This almost makes me want to dust off my account and play......but I'll stick with watching only. 5 years was long enough

[@mr.eggplant866]

Nerf coming soon.

[@brantsemallory726]

Is this pre-fix?

[@DaroZuo]

Nerfs inbound XD

[@TheDinons]

and we can w8 from Wg to nerf hell of this ship,after this kind of result,,more ppl get this ship nerf is gonna be sooner,,some thing happened with kremlin before he get live,,op ship in test when goes live nerfed like hell,and i don't expect this ship live like this to long,(hope so till i get it) but...will see

[@OrangeGuyBlows]

It's just another floating island for rock humpers and smoke camping spam queens to incinerate has it makes it's way to get into effective range....

[@diegowushu]

Dayum.

[@nickchalk]

nerf is coming in 5, 4, 3, 2, ....

[@robertcras8151]

WG always does this, to make people spend money to get it. Then when everyone complains they nerve it by popular demand. Meanwhile cashing in the beginning.

[@Seeking2FindBalance]

You're right, Wargaming is all about sucking money from our wallets, but in this instance.....it's a Tech Tree Tier X ship. No money needed.

[@TheL0vecake]

@@Seeking2FindBalance you are wrong about that, it is only the T-10 ship that everyone is taking about, they did not make the T-9 or T-8 like this, and people will whale to get the free xp to have it now, thats money!

[@evanlease803]

If you like this watch Graf Zepplin lol

[@Grabbabba]

Too bad we didn't get to see the team score. Probably got next to no xp

[@jamc666]

i guess playing against bots / inept adversaries helps with the score ...

[@maximusretardious4597]

Only 500,000 credits for all that.... I make that with the Friesland just capping twice :)

[@joedoe6444]

so, in otherwards, get your schlieffen now while it's still good and fun to play, because you know WG will nerf it if it's too much fun.

[@domi_1855]

he could of gotten so meny more close quaters with not shooting main guns PepeHands. great game tho!

[@desert7868]

BFK??????? IS THAT GOOD?

[@jms.99]

What kind of cheat is thiisss😳😳😳 That's awsommeeee

[@zafpoijean7749]

WTF...

[@andreassiouras6607]

70 k from 20 fires lmao

[@tehalexy]

3:35 plz dont promote sealclubbing .... thats just some steps away from CV's ...

[@reftouswarships6731]

that armor is *cringe* but those secondarys lol

[@droidmotorola3884]

They are gonna Nerf this so hard. But this refunds me og the graf Zeppelin from jingles comentary.

[@andrzejbednarczyk2501]

Matchmaker only accounts for the highest tier ship, i.e. it doesn't matter if your div is 8/9/10 or 10/10/10, you will get the same tier spread. Having more matches with lower tier ships when running lower tier ships in a div is confirmation bias.

[@danielefabbro822]

If WG will ever make a Colombo with SAP sec, it would probably be another joke. Italian ships in WoWs are just jokes. Insults.