Schmoedown Spectacular III - Part 3: Rocha VS Erwin, Knopic VS Kalinowski

[@TheMovieTriviaSchmoedown]

Ok I am posting this here as well. And for those so opposed, I am seriously asking, how do you suggest I keep the league going? Remember I need to pay crew, pay rent, pay competitors, rent venues for live event, rent equipment, props, food. I am seriously asking, how would you suggest? Don't say "get a sponsor." That is like my mother saying "You should go out with Sandra Bullock when you get to LA." Easier said than done. What is the option? Maybe I haven't thought of it. I really want to know. EDIT: I wrote this first part after I was really upset after not understanding how people couldn't understand that we were asking for 25 cents a week from the people who watch weekly to keep this thing going. I was shocked when people who claimed to be die hard fans were going to just bail (when there is a free option still just not the one they want.) Then I sat back and I said "You know what, remember what your dad told you years ago, human beings doubt, that's what they do, in their nature. Go past it and do what you need to do." I should have prepared for the ignorant and the negative especially considering the space I work in. I LOVE this thing. I think about it every minute, every second trying to match the best matches, write the best stories, thinking "The fans are going to love this!." The bottom line is that I work for Collider Mon-Fri 9-6PM and my duties as Head of Development/Content have me focused (rightly so) on what I can do to improve Collider's content (podcast network, Collider Live etc...) but that leaves Friday from 2:30-6:00PM to shoot 4 matches, get all the scenes, exhibition matches, commentaries etc.... It simply was not enough time. So I thought of a plan that would work and would be a risk. On the COLLIDER executive side of thinking: Collider needs that time also on Friday, I own the brand and we are using studio time that we could be using on other Collider programming and one of their top executives (me) is spending studio time on a property that Collider does not own and using employees to shoot it. On the SCHMOEDOWN side of things: I need more studio time, I need to be able to develop more Schmoedown properties (Bringing back Inside Schmoedown, more commentaries, new shows, new SD podcasts, more ketches, matches.) So I said, I'll take the risk and I will rent the studio on Saturday. Think about that, taking one more day away from my family (and Thad and the rest of the amazing crew would come in to work on Saturdays) to make the best show for you all. So my positive hat went on and I said, if I put IG and teams on Patreon for 25 cents a week, the hardcore fans will understand and want to see more content, they will get it. And to be honest, I think the real hardcore fans who see what I am trying to do, did get it. I can't ask everyone to understand my vision, I can't ask everyone to put business hats on. I have to understand that there are some people who are just used to getting free content and they will always just see this as a "trivia show." And that is fine, but I don't. I will grow this show, I will do more live events and sell them all out. I will accomplish live streaming and turn Throwdown into the next big show. I will turn that audio feed into a brand new way for new fans to find the Schmoedown. The audience will grow, the show will grow, the league will flourish. I want you all to come on the journey with me but I understand now that not everyone will. If you heard the announcement and decide that Season 5 was your last season, then I say thank you. Thank you for your viewership over however long you may have been watching. Thank you for supporting these great competitors through their emotional journeys in this crazy league. Thank you for being passionate enough to care that maybe this just wasn't the direction you wanted it to go. Thank you and I hope we entertained you. To those who stay, whether it is staying a viewer and a non-patron but by watching the new episodes of Inside Schmoedown, watching the singles division on Fridays or becoming a podcast subscriber and listening to the IG and teams division. For those who decide they want to be part of any tier, live stream IG and Teams, new benefits, the Throwdown, whatever it is and why you decide to come with us, you won't be disappointed. This is the road to the next big dance. I've always dealt with the thoughts of those who think something can't be done or this might be the wrong move but you have to trust your gut. My gut tells me that we are about to do some special shit this year. I plan to find new stars to compete with the greats that we already have. I plan to give you all an opportunity to come see us, wherever you may be. This isn't just a trivia show to me, this is a new sport, this is OUR fucking sport. The movie lovers, the geeks who have never had a thing to root for. This is ours and it will be ours when we move it to the next horizon. Thank you all. www.patreon.com/schmoedown -Kristian

[@Obecor31]

I’m shocked, it’s an adjustment but Thank you. I’m going to try and support because I want to attend a live event near me and if this is how that happens then I’m gonna make it happen.

[@alanshepard7179]

I love the Schmoedown. I can't thank you enough for all the free entertainment you've given me over the years. I'll be joining the 5 dollar tier. It's well worth it. Mahalo!

[@PinkSweetsXl3]

People need to take a step back and empathize. The man has a dream, if you don't want to be part of it, that's fine. I'd understand the backlash if he took every option away...but he didn't. You can still listen to them. His thinking has always been...if 100k people view these videos and just half of them lend a dollar A MONTH that would be insane. If even a quarter of us viewers did that. Some of you need to just chill out and let the man create lol.

[@HappyPisces24]

This quality of entertainment should be paid for. Swear, if I was a millionaire I would hook you guys up big time. This thing will make it big. Don't ever listen to the millenials who are used to having everything handed to them. I agree and support. The only thing is I hope you don't lose views. It's a risk. But it's nesseccary.

[@jojohughes12]

I think Kristian is honestly being very polite here. I am quite surprised that people who claim to want the Schmoedown to grow are unwilling to pay a loose change amount of money a month to do this and are not supporting a decision that will help make it grow. If you can't physically afford it right now, I'm sorry about you financial situation but at the very least you could support this giant leap Kristian and the team are making and enjoy the free content until your financial situation changes. When people like television, they pay for cable. When people like boxing/ufc/wrestling, they pay for PPV or the WWE network. If people like movies/shows, they pay for streaming services or rent them. No reason why this should be different to help grow this wonderful product. If you want this brilliant show to not only continue, but to become so much bigger...please do all you can to support it. Thank you Kristian and everyone who works on my favourite piece of content. I am praying for this risk to pay off and i believe it will. ❤

[@LAnimeMaster]

That Samm Levine moment was the best moment of the Spectacular. lol

[@justncrediblyfly]

I agree, hysterical lol.

[@HoneyPiss]

Erwin: "Is he in this room?"

[@jbearclowater]

Moment of the year, haha

[@aaronblum9555]

It was an awesome moment, especially as Ethan was thinking it could be him.

[@StarFyreXXX]

that was our Schmoedown moment of the year (wife and I). I still miss Above the Line, and Samm as Champ :( :(

[@kosanarmax4158]

I'll miss Matt Knost. He's a legend

[@adriancooley1819]

Wait what?

[@curthagens]

@@adriancooley1819 he retired

[@adriancooley1819]

@@curthagens Thanks just finished. I was thinking something way worse earlier. Had me nervous.

[@curthagens]

Adrian Cooley yeah I feel ya. But that’s why you should always finish the video before going into the comments! I always do mainly to avoid spoilers

[@adriancooley1819]

@@curthagens Yeah that's a bad habit I've stated recently. Don't know why I do it while trying to avoid spoilers lol makes no sense.

[@LAnimeMaster]

Mad props to Jen for all the interviews!

[@bloodsox88]

Would love to see Knost on the desk with Kristian.

[@jbearclowater]

If Matt ever comes back, I'd love to see him call some matches with Kristian. I feel like that could be an absolutely hilarious pairing.

[@otter13]

Ouch, the post match interviews for the Innergeekdom were hard to watch, bunch of editing cuts too. Great match tho... this better not be the end of Mara.

[@briannussbaum4898]

That Samm Levine moment had me dying

[@thealjohnsonshow2188]

Same!

[@zacharydepasquale6235]

Me too

[@taylornamahoe03]

Yeah same!

[@glugo68]

I hate to see Mara go out like that, but none of us know what she’s going through. If she ever comes back, I’ll be right there rooting for her again. As for the paywall, I guess I can bring lunch from home to work every other Friday. This is one of my favorite shows on any platform and I want to see it continue successfully. Can’t wait to see what the next season has in store!

[@HoneyPiss]

Yes please become a patron. It's worth it.

[@SystemsAlliance]

Exactly. $1 is forgetting a coupon and still buying something anyway. It's so little. I appreciate the attitude!

[@diamondrattler7453]

Jenn looking like supper! I hate Knost leaving, dude is one of my favorites and I wanted Top 10 to get back together. Love Rocha's attitude. That's how a champ acts. You could tell Mara was hurting like hell, glad Mike won.

[@shaneg9081]

It felt obvious with Matt, though. He wasn't even showing up for his stablemates. Maybe he'll come back in time.

[@emmamcallister1632]

That Innergeekdom match turned a little strange at the end. Mara seemed genuinely angry, even before she lost, and her post match interview was basically edited to nothing. Hopefully she's okay, and I hope this isn't it for her.

[@MultiPlatGamerGuy]

They also cut away from the table too, which I thought was weird.

[@emmanuelsanchez2580]

She was upset that Mike milked it. And I think something happened when he went in for a hug

[@scottyben191]

Yup she probably came off looking salty and refused Mikes hug. Since no whamen can do wrong on collider they cut the whole thing out. To top it off they heavily edited the post match interview.

[@pepesiivia5892]

I’m pretty sure Mara was being bitchy so they cut it out. I hate seeing people act like sore losers. It’s part of the game, no one goes undefeated forever

[@johngigler6567]

yeah thats cheap that they cut it. if it was Reilly or Rocha losing their cool and showing human emotion it wouldnt have been editted as much. disappointing to say the least.

[@davidmorris6707]

Amidst everything, thank you Matt Knost. Your humour and energy have been a joy to watch!

[@crypto727]

NNNOOOO KNOST!! You just made me cry. But that decision is yours thanks for the fun

[@THEBILLYSOLSON]

Mara was not having fun, she got mad at Mike not ending it right away then it seemed something happened when Mike went up to her and during her promo at the end, some VERY weird edits happened there. Don't think she will be back anytime soon.

[@marcm.8394]

They did say before the match started that if Mike won it was an automatic rematch with Mara in New York ... i guess we'll find out soon.

[@jasonfasthorse6313]

I know right there were 3 edits I believe so she must have been really Popping of at the mouth so much so we are never going to get the full story on the interview

[@adriancooley1819]

I'm really curious to know what she said cause that was crazy.

[@Ep33n]

We didnt get to see mikes heartfelt reaction to winning after all the hard work and effort he put into the entire korruption storyline. He got robbed of his shining moment.

[@michaelcampbell8905]

Aaron Patterson could say the same about Mara when she won the title at the live event tbh

[@brucecooley70]

Hope that was just in the moment for Mara. She seemed to get actually upset at the end there even if she says otherwise. Congrats to Kalinowski. One match to go!

[@Afro_Matt]

To be fair Rocha has a lot of moments like this.

[@wesstapley]

I think she just hates the theatrics. Mike gave a huge pause knowing he had just won and she hated the poor sportsmanship.

[@swimjsp]

@@wesstapley poor sportsmanship, imo, is basically saying you don't care about this and none of it matters after you lose the match. Granted in the big picture of life, this is a little side excursion, but everyone involved (including fans) have implicitly agreed that this DOES matter. She really shat on her own involvement in the league right there.

[@ethanroy9806]

swimjsp couldn’t agree with you more, she seemed pretty pissed that she lost and claimed she wasn’t and she doesn’t care

[@ieatgremlins]

@@swimjsp Exactly, it was incredibly childish and disrespectful. I didn't win so I don't care.

[@LordTheft]

I really liked Mara up till this point. She loses the belt and starts spouting that the entire game is irrelevant? Totally robbed Mike of his shining moment too. That's petty af.

[@jacobcopple3733]

"Mental health problems" Yea I think you are on to something there..

[@MrBwilk174]

i agree. the thing that really turned me off was how she responded to the interview esentially saying, "none of this matters to me"...I was excited for her this season, but this really muddied the waters for me when i look at her season now. Poor, poor attitude, salty loss, and just poor sportsmanship.

[@rpunktdpunkt5738]

I just want to say THANK YOU to the whole team behind this event. For three years now, I'm watching the Spectacular on the 25th and it's been a Christmas highlight every year so far. I just want to let you guys know that, despite the negative and toxic feedback, there are people like me who enjoy your work and effort and support all of you! Merry Christmas and, once again, thank you for a truly spectacular event!

[@1united4ever]

It's a shame that choppy cutting really ruined KO's big moment. After all his hard work, it's a shame that it was necessary to edit it in this way!

[@87leslo]

I think all those edits were to hide Mara's attitude and save her from herself her body language and the little that they did show from her interview was not looking good think this was Harloffs way to not make her look worse in the fans eyes and leave the door open for her if she wants to come back

[@bravos1076]

Dear Kristian thank you so much for this awesome league and the crew for everything they have done. This will be my final schmoedown and what a way to go out on. I can’t afford Patreon right now so it’s sad to say my time watching this great show is over. Kristian I wish you the best of luck and all the support I can give. Now before anyone jumps down my throat with “you can’t afford one dollar?” First off it’s Christmas. I got kids. I got a wife. I’m in college. We got bills. A car to pay. Housing.Food and Cable and to top it off hospital bills since I was in the hospital twice this year for heart procedure and a set back. Schmoedown helped me threw those nights in the hospital and I wish I can help but right now it’s impossible to. So thank you again Kristian and god bless. I hope to support one day and for others please support this league. Make it great next to UFC and WWE. I have faith in Kristian. Merry Christmas.

[@87leslo]

There's still some free content you can watch on the schmoes channel

[@Hiker_Strider]

You can watch the matches on the schmoes know KZbin channel still.

[@Hiker_Strider]

As well as in podcast for free

[@reelkonversationswithryank4945]

Could Ben Bateman become a Horseman and keep the Who's The Boss team together inside the faction?

[@moritzow-ld9300]

Ryan Kraemer seems possible

[@ironpatriot2000]

I don’t see a world where Bateman and Rocha are ever in the same faction together

[@swimjsp]

Been Bateman will be a Horseman in 2019. Mark my words.

[@Kendawg909]

im with you buddy! @@swimjsp

[@Reavesuppercut]

Yes!

[@dremmerd]

This comment will probably get some hate, but I'm gonna throw it out there. I have a lot of respect for Kristian and Mark, they've built this from the ground up, they're doing amazing things with their lives that I'll probably never amount remotely close to. As long as there is a video to watch, I'll watch it, I love the Schmoedown. And I get it, money makes the world go-round. But the entire world has moved to this new service/subscription based model, and after netflix, hulu, a video game subscription, a costco membership, amazon prime, its just remarkably challenging to donate to each content creator's patreon when I have 50 subscribed youtube channels asking for a donation or to buy their merch. I understand the league needs funding, but I really can't support more than retweeting the content, and giving my views :(

[@superseinen4507]

Completely with you on this. The struggle is real.

[@manchegocheese8529]

Mmmmmmmmm, what to say about Mara. I think the Schmoedown isn’t for her. There’s a pretty heightened and embellished entertainment element to the whole thing, if you can’t reconcile and embrace that it’s a show and that characters are central to it all don’t get involved. Handle it and approach it like Hector Navarro, Marc Andreyko etc who have fun with it but don’t allow the theatrical elements to swallow them up.

[@AA1891]

You must have forgotten Marc Andreyko and Emma Fyffe post match interview back when he was in the Lion's Den lol.

[@scamrasc]

@@AA1891 mark used to play up a character and try hard at being a heel but tbh it didn't suit him. since he dropped the showboating element he's been openly having more fun and playing better too. he loves it, he has fun with it, he takes it seriously as a competitive environment, but he never lets it dictate how he's going to feel. in his own words, it's fun and all but not worth losing sleep over.

[@AA1891]

@@scamrasc I know he was playing a heel character at the time but Emma legit got under his skin during the post match interview after his loss to Rachel Cushing. It was a real "shoot" not part of the character. He later apologized for his comment about her outfit.

[@ChrisConnolly-Mr.C-Dives-In]

Manchego Cheese You might have a point here, and in context, Dangerous Dan just recently had that same experience, of learning how to adjust to the current “character” aspects of the game. It makes sense that they would have a similar experience.

[@sarahm3304]

As a female I got so excited watching that Clarke and Rachel match it was so exciting to see kick-ass female movie nerds showing their knowledge! It was actually inspiring to watch females having fun showing how much they know and representing us movie nerds... but Mara’s attitude really bothered me.... like girl you don’t have to be rude it was actually disheartening to watch and as a fellow female movie nerd it kinda felt like a kick in the teeth to fans..... wasn’t impressed with that

[@molsy1768]

So glad of the result of the innergeekdom match, Mara, KO, Cushing and Inman are all on the exact same level and I love it

[@UrbanHeartBeatz]

Gonna miss Knost. He was a comedic genius and a coo cat. Gonna miss him!!

[@jbearclowater]

I would love it if he showed up to call a match or two with Kristian at the desk.

[@TheMarsCydonia]

@@jbearclowater Agree

[@brucecooley70]

Maybe we can still get Rocha vs Clarke next year with these results. Gonna miss Knost. Sad to see ya go.

[@kosanarmax4158]

Kalinowski finally did it. Mara shouldn't be down on herself though, she's a hell of a player.

[@RadiantMan08]

And a hell of a loser with that attitude at the end...

[@enterzec7255]

Love all the matches but once again, the team title match proved to be the best match of the Spectacular, same as last year.

[@skater0224]

EnterZec Agree

[@Tony004007]

I don't think is that, I think Kristian once said that he wanted to have 100% control of it and making it an actual Collider product will take that away from him

[@ObviousTroll]

Knost is anything but deadweight. Top 10 was the team that got me hooked on the Schmoedown and it's sad to see him go.

[@jbearclowater]

Knost was always one of the most underrated competitors if you ask me. He was a bit inconsistent at times, but when he was good, he was amazing.

[@andreas1218]

What's with all the cuts in Maras interview? What did she say???

[@matthewrodriguez8913]

andreas1218 that’s exactly what i wanna know....i fast forward all that i got pissed, so stupid

[@andreas1218]

@Moist Gnome Nerd?

[@jbearclowater]

I'm guessing her emotions got the better of her, and she said something that would have put her in a worse light (not in a heel way, but an asshole-ish way), and I'd like to believe it was just the heat of the moment that dragged on her.

[@simonf3503]

They cut away when Kalinowski attempted to shake her hand after the match. She was also pissed that he was stalling with his final answer.

[@BarbaDjole]

Gonna miss my man Knost. A true Schmoedown legend!

[@brucecooley70]

Well that mask reveal just got a big wtf out loud from me. Haha. Nice to see him again.

[@jbearclowater]

I hope this sets RMB up as the new big bad for the next season, somehow. Great to see him back, it's been way too long!

[@jmaddey85]

@@jbearclowater I always liked him buut he's not great at trivia. Hopefully he's a new heel manager, in which I think he'd be awesome at.

[@risteepeder]

@@jmaddey85 True. Unless we finally get a Star Trek tournament.

[@chacecrowell]

@@risteepeder Inman mentioned something about two former captains reuniting next season

[@bendegen8579]

Mara’s lack of knowledge in Star Wars was what sank her

[@ericmicke4130]

Yeah but they both ran from it and she probably knows more than most watching. That category is just way too deep.

[@sivad1025]

I don't think it's a lack of knowledge... Star Wars has gotten really deep. Both questions she missed were reasonable, but I can see why she would miss it.

[@soulwarrior]

Ever since that Iron Man match in Star Wars, there's no "normal" question left and every single question in the category is as hard as a 5 pointer for any other category. I watched the Star Wars Championship match and I was surprised every time I actually had a clue what the answer was. I would run from that category, too... it's the smart thing to do if you're not Alex Daemon. ;-)

[@TurtlePatch2]

I have so much respect for the people who make these videos. Definitely signing up for patreon to see more

[@msutopdog]

Sucks that Innergeekdom match ended on such a bad note, great match!

[@igrabz]

I'm so glad she lost. Dan is a saint.

[@IronMaiden1164]

What bad note?

[@simonf3503]

Godzilla she was pissed off

[@MrBwilk174]

yeah it really soured that whole match...I was hoping for mara to win that one too....

[@Akame4514]

@@igrabz Dan didn't do shit this season stop sucking him off kid.

[@marinlepur1385]

That cameo by Burnett!!

[@StarFyreXXX]

where is the time segment of the burnett? didnt catch that

[@danh7211]

@@StarFyreXXX All the way at the end. 1:57:12

[@PrudhviRaj12]

At first I thought he was eating a rat 😂

[@ScrubNigel]

Finally the Captain is back! Will he replace Knost, and partner with Inman? Maybe a bit too Star Trek heavy, but still cool!

[@AllOutMovies]

For every 5...4...3...2...1 Kristian does, Macuga needs to barge in and say 8...

[@Entertainment-os4ig]

9?

[@BlackNerd94]

Eighth

[@molsy1768]

God's no, I can't stand that bit

[@ChrisLamia]

@@molsy1768 It's the best bit on the show along with Mrs. S and Danish Kristian Harloff

[@molsy1768]

@@ChrisLamia I don't like those bits either ( Danish Kristian Harloff was gold at the start ). Bring back jungle room stories or Brett interrupting people.

[@thecoolestguyinthecomments178]

Mara was my favorite going in, but she really let me down today. Not because she lost, but because I found her attitude to be really ugly. Idk what was going on, but it's really not cool to act that way. And it's not like she was playing a character or anything. She seemed really upset for some reason.

[@ChristopherJohn95]

For some reason? That last question, Mara knew she got it wrong, and instead of showing some humility or decency, Mike just milks every fucking second, making her feel wasted and shit. I am angry for her because no one should have to put up with that bullshit.

[@ChristopherJohn95]

Who cares about a bloody award? She said herself it doesn't matter. Rocha and Bateman may do the same thing...and that's the problem. They shouldn't. No one should. It's really fucking annoying to sit through that, especially when such a competitor like Mike shows NO humility at the fact that Mara, still in ill health, has had to sit through ANOTHER sudden death round and loses. He milks it all for himself, shows little to no remorse, and can't just get off his high-chair and accept that Mara is feeling super shit and just say his answer QUICKLY. I hate that bullshit and if he and other competitors want to continue that ugly trend, then I am out.

[@jbearclowater]

@@ChristopherJohn95 I agree Mike dragged it out too much, but her reaction was really problematic too. Mike's showboating is a part of the theatrics which some competitors take too far, but for her to say "I don't care, and this doesn't matter" is hurtful to a lot of the fans and other competitors who do take this seriously. I'm not saying Mike wasn't right to do what he was doing, but her outburst wasn't the right response either. I have a feeling her cuts in her interview were because she really said something problematic that would have put her in a really bad light, and that's a huge shame too.

[@ethanroy9806]

Mr. Movies dude it’s The Schmoedown

[@thecoolestguyinthecomments178]

Mr. Movies Competitors do that shit to each other all the time to each other. It’s theatrics. Mara shouldn’t get special treatment, when everyone works just as hard as her. If she can’t handle it, than it just isn’t for her.

[@j.7949]

I am so happy that this show is now going to be supported by US VIEWERS, the fans, and for A DOLLAR A MONTH? You honestly cannot complain about that when the Schmoedown has already given us years worth of content at no cost, and now that it’s finally expanding it needs a tiny bit of help. I am happy to be a patron for you guys, you really, clearly work so hard, and it only costs me a single dollar a month.

[@ryanwoods2057]

So happy for Mike. hell yeah

[@MrMikeKalinowski]

Thank you, Ryan!

[@wadewilson8924]

Mike Kalinowski don’t milk out the answers man not on the last question at least.

[@emergencybowtie]

Isn't the Schmoedown by far Collider's biggest show? Why wouldn't they divert more funding to it lol

[@JarisDDP]

it is lol, but I'm guessing Kristian is worried to lose it

[@banehog]

Ooof - salty.

[@bucs0385]

Just joined the Patreon!! Can’t wait for next year!!

[@jasonfasthorse6313]

Damn Mara was super Salty and nasty in defeat! Wasn’t expecting that kinda disappointed in her. Where’s Classy Clarke Wolfe when you need her

[@HappyPisces24]

Jason Fasthorse wulf sucks on the mic. She's boring.

[@LupeJustinian]

Clarke is arguably worse when she loses lol

[@jasonfasthorse6313]

Eren Yager agreed just needed her Moniker to further my point

[@jasonfasthorse6313]

LupeJustinian agreed she questions her opponents so called easy questions quite frequently

[@kristianvukajlovic6789]

@@LupeJustinian When was Wolfe salty if she lost?

[@wilderfox2]

Wow unfortunately Mara was not gracious in defeat, something was really off-putting about that

[@igrabz]

Yeah. Pretty disgusting.

[@wilderfox2]

@@igrabz If i remember correctly Kristian said the fans would get a say in the awards votes, do you think she lost any awards she was up for? She clearly doesn't care about awards so in the fans eyes she won't win shit am I right?

[@GILx87]

Nathaniel Strangman I hope that’s the case. She was a shoe in for it, but she threw everyone under the bus. By saying she doesn’t give a shit about any of it was kind of a slap in the face of fans and the crew.

[@igrabz]

Overall, I kind of have a bad taste in my mouth about the whole spectacular. This interview by Mara was just one of several things. I mean the matches were great - really great. But everything else ... I dunno I may be just getting tired of it. I don't like the changes for 2019, I don't like *so* much emphasis on these tacky WWE stories. I'm salty. Hope it gets back to a straightforward and simple movie trivia show done by people in the web-space we care about. If I see any more fake tackles, dog stealing, mask stealing, fake lawyer fake drama bullshit I'll probably be done. Which sucks, cause I've been here since blue fairy.

[@klab2021]

Going through mental/physical health problems publicly is often "off-putting".

[@BladeStudios]

Rocha: *cuts a fiery promo* Jen: "I knew you were going to cut a promo on me." That's the #1 way on how to ruin a promo.

[@AdamRaia]

Blade Studios - Fire Pro Wrestling World Events right?!? Why would she say something like that? Just takes you right out of the moment. Very unprofessional

[@pasindubulegoda3799]

What a great spectacular! Thank you for everyone who’s involved. And thank you my fellow Patrons. Let’s help this league grow.

[@benjamingarcia5822]

Gotta say I'm not a big fan of Mara's attitude at the end there. It reminded me of Cam Newton after he lost the Superbowl. I don't care how supremely talented you are if you can't take a hit and get back up like a champ you are not cut out for anything even remotely competitive

[@agentfilm6376]

Cam Newton can take multiple hits like he's been doing his whole career and has been relentless in getting back up. There's a reason why he's captain of his team. But people always have to define his career from one bad night. He had just lost Super Bowl 50. But he still went up and congratulated Peyton Manning and shook his hand. Wish Mara could've at least done that to Kalinowski.

[@QuirkyQuillify]

Really happy to see Mike win the IK champion. We can tell how passionate he is about all of this and how much effort goes behind the scenes. He deserves it! Hope Mara regains both her health and mental peace soon.

[@Rececer]

Ya Erwin is definitely rookie of the year

[@leobergmiller873]

Why is no one talking about how Ethan Erwin just won the Championship as a rookie and is inarguably, in my opinion, the best schmoedown player of all time?

[@Weezing336]

Leo Bergmiller I think he needs a little more time and he can establish himself as the best or one of the very best. He's still just a rookie. But I know what you mean.

[@scottyben191]

Because everyone is too focused on Mara and her tiny episode. Tribal mentality at its best. Give the girl a break, its her first big loss.

[@leobergmiller873]

Weezing336 Yeah I agree, but hes beaten almost all the best players in the league with ease, his only slip up being a bad animated question against a game where andreyko somehow guessed all of his round 3 questions correct. I’d like to see a rematch with those 2 so Erwin can get his revenge because I really can’t imagine any competitor actually managing to beat him

[@Akame4514]

Mara is more impressive than Ethan. She had a much harder opponent and barely lost.

[@leobergmiller873]

Alan David No I disagree, Erwin has played almost all of the elite players in the league and only lost by one random 5 pointer against Andreyko who guessed all of his round 3. If you are looking at who is actually the stronger player based off of accuracy, Erwin is way more impressive than Knopic

[@Fluffy2600]

Mara's postgame interview broke my heart

[@emmamcallister1632]

This was an absolutely amazing season, Kristian and company! Thank you to everyone who put their heart and soul and effort into making this league something truly special. You have me as a fan and supporter as long as we're both around. :-)

[@Ty-vf3kf]

Methinks Kristian and Mark are going to be none too pleased with Mara diminishing the Schmoedown by being a sore loser and basically saying "who cares" on their (probably) most watched video of the year. Especially at a time when they are desperately trying to build/save this thing on their own. Just very disappointing and very poor form from her. Probably should have cut it altogether

[@jasonfasthorse6313]

Tyler she showed her true colors, True Colors

[@Ty-vf3kf]

@@OweeReviews Yeah it was just a bummer to see and kind of took me out of it. Can't afford to have that right now

[@roshieifra]

@@Ty-vf3kf it was a real bummer, that's what I've been saying. Just left a bad taste in your mouth. After watching so many great matches and we're left with that ending??? It was disappointing. I personally don't want to see her again if she's going to act like that in defeat.

[@alanshepard7179]

I feel bad for Dan Murrell who has to deal with her crappy attitude after the whole thing. If it's not her thing then good riddance.

[@roshieifra]

@@alanshepard7179 wait, why would Dan have to deal with her?

[@WoodstockProd]

I just wanna say, Matt was always fun to hear in the Schmoedown. Much love Mr. Knost!

[@TBarmor]

I have never popped for a win like I did for KO today. Korruption forever!

[@davidisho13]

This cannot be understated, the production value, editing and recaps are absolutely phenomenal! The amount of work the crew put into producing all of the shows is amazing!

[@peter7181]

So so happy for the Innergeekdom winner, thoroughly deserved it.

[@calebdesjardins616]

I think every single match was incredible, probably the best spectacular yet! Samms question was the highlight of the entire spectacular!

[@ChrisLamia]

MIKE FINALLY GOT HIS TITLE

[@seriesofmathletics9451]

Right??? Last time Mara beat him, Mike had the higher accuracy. He's far and away the best Innergeekdom competitor.

[@ChrisLamia]

@@seriesofmathletics9451 No one in IG is far and away the best. The top 4 of Mike, Mara, Rachel and Jason is incredibly tight and anyone of them could beat each other in any match

[@wadewilson8924]

I wish he didn’t milk the last question that was just in poor taste and I’m glad she got pissed about that. Go ahead and do it on any other question I guess but the last one? Really? That’s a dick move

[@TubbyTater]

Matt Knost retiring really bummed me out... He is one of the most entertaining competitors in the Schmoedown... & much like Macuga should never retire & should consistently be a part of the show. Also how great would Knost be as a manager,

[@peter7181]

Patron here and huge long time fan and supporter that's not going away any time soon, but a little frustrated. When you see everyone making such a big push for peoples money in the fb group and comments, on rewatch it kind of sucks to see one of the big competitors from a main event say "eh glad ya care but it doesn't mean anything"

[@warlordryudo]

oh they do it in facebook? 2018 and a facebook group... is anybody besides old people even using that anymore? Do they know discord exists?

[@RonyH7]

loved the matches this year, even if a few of my favorites lost. no shame in needing a break Mara, do what you need to do.

[@JuanRivera-jy4jx]

Mara might not be suited for a long season.... She can't seem to play along when she knows she might lose. Come on relax.

[@igrabz]

Shes not so amazing

[@elolafino3842]

You know, there is other stuff that can drag you down besides being a sore loser. Like mental health issues or physical pain, it is hard to fake the attitude when you feel shitty.

[@geoghoul]

Damn, I loved when Mara came onto the intergeekdom championship and won the belt but she seems she’s gone through a tough patch lately with her accident and all. Hope this loss doesn’t drive her away from the league and we see her make a comeback one day with that Knopic KNOWLEDGE.

[@pabloab7033]

This'll be a huge loss for ColliderVideos

[@akaaldhaliwal2514]

What will

[@adrianguerrero833]

But a huge achievement for the Schmoes Know.

[@seriesofmathletics9451]

@@bob-1980 Are you joking...? How dare people ask for ONE freaking dollar to watch something that is otherwise free (and still is in podcast form). People complaining about it are real low. Next time you want to buy coffee or a soda, get water instead. You'll have paid for a month's worth of content and be a healthier person.

[@pabloab7033]

if you think this is bullshit, why're you watching?

[@ameersaahir6400]

I would've never guess that Mara Knopic would lose her temper like that. This is not only a great match, but a shocking match!

[@AntColston]

Why is no one talking about Robert Meyer Burnett

[@Nontraversy]

I just wanna say how thankful I am for this league and then everyone and everything that's put into it. I cant say theres anything I enjoy more in the KZbin space. It feels forever ago I stumbled onto this page looking for Episode 7 insight and found Jedi Council and then from there Schmoes and the MTS. Every match I'm anxious to see and every match I'm clicking on as soon as I get the notification. I really hope to see the league expand and continue on. But thank you to Kristian, Mark and all the staff and competitors on putting out quality content and bringing to life such a great league

[@bilmatik57]

wow i was going with mara for rookie of the year but her attitude is GAHBAGE..so go erwin

[@geysa13]

So many highs and lows during the whole tournament. I was cheering and crying. Great job everyone.

[@jstriker9peru]

I know she probably was in the heat of the moment, but I think Mara might regret some things she said there. Not really classy at all.

[@QuirkyQuillify]

Good thing they cut out most of it.

[@AngelaSealana]

What a Spectacular. Just watching those promos, I thought to myself: "WOW, who put this together? This editing took forever! Give that person a raise!" Then I realized that was on me - as a Patron, I am responsible for this show in a real way, and I can look at my own budget and say, "Give them a raise." Now, after hearing the new announcement from Kristian, and seeing a movie producer with the belt going to NY, I'm excited to see what new possibilities will come for the MTS. And because I am thoroughly entertained by this show, I will pay for it out of my hard-earned money. Thank you to all of the crew & cast for everything you do on & off camera - and to my fellow fans for supporting this and making it happen, creating a community where people can be uplifted from a rough day, watch during cancer treatments, and find a group of people to belong to. As a MTS legend once said: "We are the league."

[@austincarnie3894]

I would consider myself a casual fan of this, and from what it sounds like I won’t be able to turn KZbin on and just watch what happens this next year, though that’s sad this was an unbelievable way to go out. This event was amazing and truly had me on the edge of my seat. The direction it looks to be going with stories I’m sad I’ll be missing those stories told but I know it’ll be great and done perfectly, I’m sure I’ll buy a few of the events. Thank you for another entertaining event, keep up the great work guys.

[@CapLives]

You can't give them a measly dollar every month? That's literally only $12 a year. That's cheaper than most subscription services for a year.

[@CapLives]

@Gregg Bell even casual fans of WWE have WWE network smart guy.

[@herbyragan7801]

The Schmoedown is my second favorite show (after Doctor Who). I am proud to be a Patreon to help keep this show going.

[@Obecor31]

So Ben Bateman to the horsemen is foregone conclusion right? And Matt knots would be a fantastic manager if he wanted to do it. Everything he says is gold.

[@raysheldon6009]

Spectacular III was amazing! I am super excited to be a the New York Live event next month. Thank you to Kristian, Mark, and everyone else that makes this wonderful show possible!

[@peter7181]

This has been so entertaining. Proud to be a patron, wish I could give more to such a great show!

[@randallgeorge8370]

1. Jenn is a goddess 2. Huge congratulations to Mike who puts in so much work. It doesn’t go unnoticed by us fans. Thank you.

[@hayleyskinner5710]

Knost needs to be on the desk. He’d be hilarious

[@bright8482]

*The Spectacular III was the perfect, holiday present. Suspense, great laughs, early finishes, and some incredible title matches. It was hard watching some of my favorite competitors lose, but it shows how well the Schmoedown does its thing. Big thanks to the crew behind the scenes and the entire roster. This has been a great year and I'm looking forward to the future of the Schmoedown. Happy Holidays, Collider.*

[@seanb3023]

Maras attitude is real annoying, unfortunate

[@jbearclowater]

I liked her sarcastic personality, and get her frustration, but yeah, her pissing on it like that really seemed like sore losing than how she really feels. I hope she comes back soon, but it's definitely not a bad idea for her to step back and take a breath if she feels like it's dragging on her health.

[@seanb3023]

George R wanting her to act even a little invested isn’t sexist at all but ok

[@nedmusic1494]

@George R Whenever I watch the Schmoedown, I'm just here for the tits. (Sarcasm)

[@brittanyross9764]

Mara, I get it! Your competitive drive is why I love you

[@InfinitySor625]

I have to admit, I LOVED Spectacular this year, however I will admit the changes being made for next Season have me feeling a little somber. While I completely understand the costs of production, I feel separating Singles from the Teams/Innergeekdom will only harm the Schmoedown in the long run. The Schmoedown is a visual show one need to only look at the entrances from the competitors to see that. While I’m thankful for being able to listen to these matches, they hold no candle to watching them. This decision will separate the audience and will hinder the Schmoedowns growth overall as some just aren’t podcast people. Again, I’m not trying to troll or be ungrateful as I’m sure these decisions weren’t made lightly, but I humbly beg everyone involved with the Schmoedown to reconsider these decisions. I’m not sure if I’m even going to be able to keep up with these divisions now unless I become a patron which sadly not everyone can do which is a unfortunate reality. Again, I hope we can reconsider though I feel it may be too late.

[@DMS82012]

It’s literally a dollar a month to keep up with the other divisions. Your making it seem like they asked for 10 dollars for the tag team and Innergeekdom divisions. People can’t afford one dollar?

[@ColliderLadiesNight]

Do you understand that this is CRUCIAL at this point? It is this or no league. I'll go with this.

[@InfinitySor625]

Mr.302Plays Woah, just take it easy man. Yes, unfortunately some can’t. It’s an unfortunate reality, but it exists. We do not know everyone’s financial situation, what may be easy for one may be difficult for another. Again, I said I understand where the decision comes from and I understand the cost of a show with as high of a production value as the Schmoedown, I just feel this may have some unintended consequences that’s all.

[@InfinitySor625]

Collider Videos Yes I understand that funding is crucial, I said as much in the OP. I not gonna even attempt to comprehend the stresses of putting a show like this on, and of course having a league is better than not having one. I’m sure if there was a better decision than that would be what we get, I’m just uncertain how the Team and Innergeekdom leagues will thrive being only audio only to the general public and how that may hinder the growth of the league in the future. I’m sorry if it came across any other way

[@DMS82012]

James F your right when saying we don’t know everyone’s financial situation but again I say It’s a one time payment of one dollar every month. I highly doubt half the the Schmoedown audience are on the verge of becoming homeless and can’t afford a dollar a month. If we lose the Schmoedown because “fans” can’t “afford” a dollar a month than me and countless others will be very sad that this amazing product will never be seen again

[@jbearclowater]

It amazes me that Clarke and Rocha have never faced off. That is a match-up I would love to see.

[@anthonywheeler2082]

No one knows what kind of health problems Mara has, and you can't always tell by looking at someone

[@ElanneHarvelle]

The Inergeekdom match is literally the most stressfull thing ever and it's because they are both just that good. Props to both Mike and Mara.

[@hadouken1617]

They say that the Dead Sea is the saltiest place on Earth...And Then Mara Lost

[@Smurfetta5683]

*STANDING OVATION* for the entire Schmoedown crew, you are all amazing!!

[@davidmorris6707]

Not sure What I am a bigger fan of. Mara's unicorn onesie or Mike rocking his Original look!

[@demricb373]

Whoever made these video packages should be given a huge raise omfg

[@chrisscorpio5651]

I can season my food with all that Knopic Salt. Win and loose graciously.

[@flynnrider7893]

I kinda fell off on the Schmoedown after last season. No particular reason, just got busy with life and did not have enough time. Decided to check out this years Spectacular since I’ve watched the past two. And I must say: WOW. Kristian, you’ve sold me back into this. I think I’m officially back into it and will be a Patreon supporter for next season. You can tell how passionate everyone is about the Schmoedown and one can’t help but support it. Well done guys! Oh yeah, and Team Finstock forever!

[@perrygray1000]

Mara definitely doesn't care anymore lol

[@adriancooley1819]

Did I miss something? What was that about?

[@HBoyzFan]

I don't think she doesn't care. It sounds like she hasn't fully recovered from her accident, so maybe after some rest over the next few weeks she'll be back

[@jewfierros5800]

She does care you bozo other wise she would not feel that way.

[@DeanCookCreative]

@Daemon Noir following.

[@pepesiivia5892]

She does care, she’s being a sore loser.. The first time she loses and suddenly she’s all “I don’t care anymore” it made me instantly not like her

[@localgrocer7709]

I 100% get the shift towards patreon, especially because it is not a small production, there are so many moving pieces that come together to make these awesome shows for us! Thanks to you guys for making it free for so long, and I hope support comes through the patreon to continue this!

[@brandonvogrin3600]

Pay the f'ing dollar people. Let's build this thing.

[@josephgavrilides8383]

Brandon Vogrin Damn right!

[@getrippedapart]

We already built this thing to what it is today, without us this would’ve went the way of nightmares, and tv talk, and captain learning. Views = money.

[@jbearclowater]

@@getrippedapart with KZbin's current monetization methods, views does not necessarily equate to money any more. The fans watching here have definitely helped a bit, but KZbin does not pay nearly enough for them to be able to film this and pay the necessary people. I have mixed feelings on moving so much of the content behind a pay wall as well, but understand that they clearly weighed the options and were not earning enough to justify not putting it on the Patreon.

[@helgemartinsanchez6445]

@@getrippedapart RIP Captain Learning 😭

[@cameronhass4646]

Brandon Vogrin amen

[@benzuckerphotos]

These matches really didn't go the way i was hoping but they were still so amazing. I love every change Kristian is making for the league next season. These guys deserve to take this to the next level and they are doing their part, now it's time for us to do ours!

[@danielichay5391]

This is great!! this Spectacular has been great!!!!!

[@leonidaslangford1370]

I love how Rocha bounces back. I really admire his passion and love for the game

[@DaniZam41]

If Mara was feeling so unwell she could have stepped away sooner. Sam Levine retired with two belts. I hope she gets better but the last interview was such a downer. I loved her at first but right now I don't want her to come back on the Schmoedown.

[@sportney4]

Congratulations, Mike! Been rooting for you since the beginning!