Schuberth C4 Pro Helmet Review

[@drewyager4020]

It’s a modular helmet. Open the hinge. Vents very well

[@loganlentz]

Do you have the SC1 comm system as well? Any complaints? I really want to order this helmet but I’ve heard terrible things about the comm system (trouble pairing/staying paired, etc).

[@sumporfuk]

After all of the iterations of the original C3 Schuberth has not yet significantly surpassed it. I guess they only want this new helmet to be worn in cool to cold climates. I’ll keep rocking my NOS C3, thank you very much

[@rockingrodders8551]

To say schuberth have never made a carbon fibre helmet before is quite a statement when they have been making F1 helmets for yrs..Good Review on a cool lid..✌️

[@8104]

He didnt mention that the SC1 comm range gets cut in half when installed on the Carbon version.

[@op3l]

I thought DOT rating is basically crap. Is it still ECE rated but just don't have the sticker or what?

[@AMX30]

Still is ECE rated, they just removed the sticker for the US market

[@Perkelenaattori]

Yup can confirm AMX. Saw the helmet today and it was EU-rated.

[@keithjordan6277]

The helmet has both certifications, but Schuberth only puts the sticker necessary for the market on any given helmet, so, DOT sticker in the U.S. It is the same helmet. You'd have to ask Schuberth why they made this decision. Perhaps reducing visual clutter on the back of the helmet, perhaps a fee you pay per helmet per sticker. The main difference of ECE vs DOT is that a helmet flunks ECE if it transmits more than 275 Gs max. DOT allows 400 Gs. There are some other differences, but that's probably the most important one.

[@BigMoeFo]

Is anyone else pissed that both Schuberth and SHOEI are for SENA only systems? As a Cardo user i find this extremely frustrating. I have to buy previous versions of the helmet.

[@LexGrossmansDog]

Mitch Clyman I got a Cardo Packtalk slim on my neotech 2 just fine.

[@Radio_180]

Just buy Packtalk Bold as a stand-alone.

[@markkulyas2418]

It's a shame that these manufacturers can't make all three head shapes for each model, round oval, intermediate oval, long oval. One head shape really cuts out a lot of the market.

[@angelablackmon7094]

I am breaking down and purchasing a full face mod helmet to use on cold and rainy days ONLY. I love my BADASS but trying to decide between the C4Pro and Shoei N II. Price is not an option it sucks but I guess I have to suck it up so looking to see who prefers the C4Pro or the Shoei Neotec II - C4Pro is the only ECE rated out of the two......

[@keithjordan6277]

I just went through this exact deliberation (except not for cold and rainy days only, for every day), and went with the C4 Pro, because of fitment. If they fit equally well, I would probably go with Shoei. My best advice is to try them on. Also, don't confuse the C4 and the C4 Pro. Schuberth confused everybody with those names. They have different internal shapes and the small and large shells are used on different sizes, ie they do not fit similarly. The C3 Pro (and the closely related cheaper version, the C3 Lite) fit about the same as the C4 Pro, and may be easier to find locally. Cycle Gear near me has the C3 Lite in stock.

[@AdyPrasetyo92]

If you want to buy new schuberth modular helmet with ECE certification, buy the C4 instead,, but the shell is bigger than C4-pro for size M & L.. I use size XXL so its perfect for me..

[@thinkdunson]

seems like, for those who can afford to do so, this would be great as a dedicated cold season helmet.

[@Starch-Wreck]

Chief Hopper didn’t die in Stranger Things Season 3. He got a job reviewing helmets at Revzilla.

[@freedeworld]

Starch Wreck damn it! Why spoil this shit! I’m still watching it!

[@abhishekpanchal4871]

Starch Wreck LOL😂

[@protectork9831]

Next time put spoiler warning

[@Starch-Wreck]

@@protectork9831 It came out over 6 months ago. Next time, don't demand people not talk about things because you're farther behind than My Grandma.

[@keithjordan6277]

I thought it was Nick from New Girl.

[@kylek2794]

I was just in a store and had the opportunity to fondle a C4 Pro. I ride with a Shoei Neotec 2 or HJC RPHA90 normally for reference. The C4 pro looked slick, however, the quality seemed like junk. The chin vent is a weird push button affair that probably won't stand the test of time, the detents on the visor sounded like a rattle trap and felt even looser, and the chin strap was way too far back against my neck. No thank you. There are numerous better and better priced helmets out there.

[@loganlentz]

Have the issues with the SC1 comm system been fixed? I’ve heard that everyone’s main complaints are that they have a hard time connecting/ staying connected with other riders’ senas, and that the battery compartment allows the battery to get joggled around causing it to shut the system off at the slighted jarring (like when you open and close your modular lid). I really want to buy this helmet and the SC1 comm system.. but I don’t want to spend that much money just for it to be a headache.

[@DD-co1zn]

did you ever get the comm system ?

[@pamiservicespamiservices9431]

Of course I have a question sir the bottom of the helmet that is around the neck material Can be removed for washing Does the helmet come with an anti-fog inside glass thx

[@RevZilla]

Yes, the neck roll is removable and the helmet does come with an Anti-Fog lens insert. - Pat

[@motoprof3672]

I've been told that helmets with built-in sun screens do not qualify for SNELL, because they slightly compromise the construction. Not sure if that applies in this instance, or if at all.

[@RevZilla]

This is correct. Snell does not test helmets with internal sun visors. -DrewZilla

[@domster200]

Check out the Sharp test ratings as well.

[@jase1911]

@@RevZilla just out of curiosity why not? A helmet is a freaking safety device that we are putting our brains in imo should be able to be tested

[@garrettreven5144]

Will the speakers work (for just playing music) with just the battery inserted? Or would you need to spring for the full comm system?

[@RevZilla]

No, the speakers don't function without the full communicator. -DrewZilla

[@intoconjunctions]

The helmet is too loud. The speakers work but you can’t hear anything because of the hectic ambient noise. This helmet has been a disaster. Had it six months. I’m taking it back.

[@nickhardcastle1]

The C4 fit is completely different to that of the C3 Pro, so much so that I can’t wear either of the C4 helmets I’ve bought - neither fit. I loved my C3 Pros. I wonder about the C4 Pro.

[@8104]

The C4 Pro has more or less the same fit as the C3 Pro. Much more round than the regular C4. I don't know why he didn't mention it in the video, and the fact the microphone is now in a place where it can actually hear what you're saying, and the inner liner is the same as the C3 Pro (better than C4)

[@bobvonkaenel1438]

Nick, please describe the differences. Is it tighter on the sides with the C3 or C4? I must have a narrow head.

[@nickhardcastle1]

Bob Von Kaenel I would say that it is tighter all round to be honest. It hurts on my forehead to the extent that it gives me a headache within about twenty minutes. I love the design of the helmet and the intercom is both good and concealed, but I just can’t wear them. I was sad and out of pocket obviously. In the days where it is so easy to scan one head shape, I am amazed that there isn’t anyone making helmets that fit perfectly.

[@bobvonkaenel1438]

@@nickhardcastle1 Thanks Nick, I will stick to my regular C4 based on the comments and your input. Much appreciated. I must have a long narrow noggin.

[@keithjordan6277]

I have not tried a C4 non-pro; however, from extensive research before I decided to buy a C4 Pro, what I found was that the C3 Pro had a more neutral shape, the C4 had a more narrow shape, and the C4 Pro is back to the more neutral shape. The C4 non-pro also used the small shell for XS and S, and the large shell for M and up. The C4 Pro uses the smaller shell for XS-L and the larger shell for XL up. Some people will prefer the fit of the C4 non-pro, but most (especially most happy C3 Pro customers) will probably prefer the fit of the C4 Pro.

[@EvilBambo0]

is there an ETA for the mirror/iridium external visor for these? Been checking daily for at least 2 months and no luck...

[@RevZilla]

Looks to be in stock right now. 1 left in the XS-LG size though. -DrewZilla *www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/schuberth-c4-c4-pro-anti-fog-lens-ready-face-shield

[@TheMonkini]

My C4 started falling apart before its 12 month aniversary. Also no mesh on air intake means you are let like you head in a bucket full of flying bugs....

[@Miskatonik]

I have the BMW System VI (made by Schuberth) and the interior and clips are a pain in the a$$. When new it looks and feels super comfy and classy. After a few rides, you appreciate how much more practical is the more synthetic interior of the Shoei Neotec. My BMW interior gets super filthy with the sweat (it doesn´t wash away easily due to the fabric, something like Alcantara) and the red plastic clips to keep it in place are absolute garbage. I comment on it because they are exactly the same ones as showed in this Schuberth C4. They get deformed, they´re made out of cheap plastic and after a while the interior starts to deform and loses its place and it doesn´t clip it in place any more. I truly love the outside design of my System VI (it´s the most aerodynamic when opened) but materials and overall finish are completely underwhelming compared to Shoei. I´ve had both and I know what I´m talking about. I won´t pay these super extreme prices for a Schuberth made helmet any more in the future. Actually I´m thinking on trying the Shoei Neotec 2 next.

[@kelly4593]

my dad having a c3 for 8 years without any problems and still using it :)

[@NYCZ31]

Schuberth getting greedy here. I only see this being worth it for the gimmicky carbon version, otherwise not sure how this beats the Neotec II. Seriously just two shells? The Neotec has four. Part of the reason to go premium is for the extra shells for better fit .

[@thebluepickle8456]

Would this work with Daytona 675. I rpha90 and the wind is crazy.

[@RevZilla]

Neither the RPHA90 nor the Schurberth is ideal for the 675's riding position unfortunately, but the Schuberth should be quieter than the HJC. The full-face R2 and SR2 are quiet and better for the 3/4 to full-tuck riding position. -DrewZilla *bit.ly/Schuberth_C4_R2_SR2

[@roadglide]

Hardly a “small miss”. It’s a brain protector, DOT only and size options leave you scratching your head and why once again for me it’s Shoei and Arai.

[@tywin1]

Think he's implying Schuberth ships them to the US without the ECE sticker because of US requirements. Not because it isn't ECE rated.

[@keithjordan6277]

It is the same helmet in the U.S. and Europe. In the U.S., many states require helmets to have DOT stickers. In Europe, I am guessing many countries require the Euro stickers. All helmets on both continents have passed both requirements and are equally safe. The issue is simply that they put DOT stickers on helmets bound for the U.S. market and Euro stickers on helmets bound for the European market. It may be cheaper or they make think it looks better/more minimalist. But that is the "small miss" he meant, not giving reassurance for buyers who aren't sure how this works, not any actual lack of safety.

[@kkchristy]

I ordered my C4 Pro in March. Still waiting.

[@Jimbo4575]

Great helmet for under 70 degrees. Sucks in hot weather because of very limited air flow

[@bobvonkaenel1438]

Not really. I've riden in 100 degree weather and the venting is not nearly as bad as Spurg reports. If it gets too hot I can always crack the visor open a sliver, but that's only been needed in city traffic.

[@jackyrussell1]

SO is a medium still a medium?

[@RevZilla]

Yes, medium is still medium. -DrewZilla

[@Kunivaaaa]

The second H in Schuberth is silent

[@Starch-Wreck]

bugz1591 What ifth you’re Mike Tython?

[@keithjordan6277]

Not exactly silent, but just to complicate things for us Americans, it's pronounced like the "th" in "thousand", as opposed to what we would assume, the "th" in "the" or "thou". If that doesn't make sense, imagine saying "thou sand" vs "thousand". But I think in the U.S. and perhaps other English-speaking countries, you will mostly hear either "Schubert" plain T or "Schuberth" soft "the" style th.

[@OneEyedJacker]

Dont you wish the helmet was?

[@John_Ridley]

Didn't have to watch past "DOT only." Fatal miss there. DOT standard is shit. I'm not buying anything that's not ECE rated unless it's a cheap spare. If it's ECE it should say so. Legal requirements are not all that some people look at.

[@nero91]

You can bet your ass it will be ECE rated, they also wanna sell in europe

[@Perkelenaattori]

It's ECE rated. Just saw the helmet today and they had just removed the sticker here.

[@TommyAngelo1337]

It's an European lid would be pretty weird if it's DOT only. They just remove the ECE sticker for the NA market for whatever reason.

[@TommyAngelo1337]

It's an European lid would be pretty weird if it's DOT only. They just remove the ECE sticker for the NA market for whatever reason.

[@privateundisclosed4448]

WTH.....WHere is Lemmy? Did he really die?

[@AMX30]

Right now I'm trying to decide between the C4 Pro and the Shoei Neotec 2...

[@92OnTV]

Shoei is better

[@Bhg265]

Fit is going to be the decider there I would presume. Unless schuberth DRAMATICALLY changed the shape they're still pretty round. N2 remarkably is quite a bit on the long oval side.

[@benfuct5880]

Shoei for sure - no question

[@abhishekpanchal4871]

Shoei Neotec

[@keithjordan6277]

I just went through this same deliberation. I think it's going to come down to fit. For me, both basically fit (no weird head shape issues); however, I am halfway between sizes M and L in some brands including Shoei. I mean with proper fitment techniques (does my skin move with the helmet when I twist it - can I get my chin partly out of the faceguard with the strap fastened - can I get my fingertip between the helmet and my forehead - etc), not "I want it to feel totally comfortable on day one". In Shoei M, I have some hot spots, in Shoei L, I can get my fingertips between my forehead and the helmet, albeit barely. If I got a Shoei, I would get a medium and hope that it opened up soon. In Schuberth, I am spot-on L. That made my decision for me. Otherwise, I don't think you can go wrong, but I might lean a little toward Shoei, because they are flat-out good without a lot of unusual issues or factors. (On the negative side, I have a personal hangup about the very large, very high-contrast Shoei logo, but I think that's just me.) Try before you buy if possible. If you can't find the exact helmets locally, you can try a C3 Lite or C3 Pro in lieu of the C4 Pro. Do not try a C4 non-pro, that has enough differences that it won't be helpful. If you can't find a Schuberth C3 Pro or C4 Pro to try on, I'd try on the Shoei and just get that if it fits. Your comment was from 10 months ago, so you may likely have decided long ago, but I'm posting this for others with similar questions.

[@pamiservicespamiservices9431]

Schuberth C4 Pro Helmet

[@OneEyedJacker]

I ride a BMW K1300S and I find the opening on Schuberth helmets restricts visibilitry so that you have to look at the road ahead through the top edge of the visor. This means youre looking through the visor above the anti-fog insert, which is rediculous. Having to crank your head back to see properly is very uncomfortable. These helmets have very poor ventillation which means your head is going to sweat. For all theiir efforts, these helmets are not that quiet. Do not, under any circumstances buy a Cardo SRC comms system. They are crap and Cardo customer service sucks. I will not be buying another Schuberth helmet until they address these issues.

[@BikesBoatsBivouacs]

Just can't part with my half helmet.

[@stevenkelby2169]

I hope you never have to part with half your face. Good luck out there!

[@danszulc45]

Does anyone actually buy these?

[@keithjordan6277]

No, Schuberth makes them as sort of an inside joke. 100% of them are destroyed. It's all a hoax. My question, why comment on something that I suppose is of no interest to you?

[@dullunit2188]

$900 for ktm c4 pro...😖

[@MrJoshlemons]

They have lost their damn mind , almost 1k for a helmet? Nooooooooo!

[@ucalocipinup]

Ai tedeschi lasciamo fare i wurstel....quelli si, li fanno buoni...

[@Radio_180]

Why would anyone buy a Schuberth over a Shoei or Arai?

[@keithjordan6277]

Why would anybody drink Pepsi instead of Coke, etc etc, a million examples. Why ask this kind of question? Get what works for you. What a dreary world it would be if we were all the same with the same opinions.

[@JUFFAIR101]

It has the lowest wind noise decibels

[@LMO169]

People don't have all the same egg shape head. Some have round heads and that's why we buy Schuberth

[@alo0o0ol26]

schuberth \ ikon

[@akelmour5891]

Commont active bloutot schuberth c4

[@alincojocaru2311]

A loooot of noise even at 100km/h, bad service in warranty or post, this is like a 100e helmet not 1000e

[@Choirboyjr11]

C3 Pro is still the only good helmet schuberth makes.

[@thestrictlynoparking]

Why?

[@prince9567286549]

Ugly helmet to look at. At least the person wearing this won't hear me passing the comment...

[@ahmeda.m.h.8464]

First

[@A.Dude.]

I must say that after watching the Revzilla revue on the C4, you, my friend are as any sales person, full of crap! Now "it's addressing the concerns of the C4", but as the C4 was the current model, where have the concerns been? To be expected that the next model will address the concerns of this one... Typical sales BS! As bas as YT "influencers"...