Are There Stages of Realization? - Rupert Spira

[@josesantana27]

Absolutely one of the most meaningful descriptions of The Self (Atman) I have heard. He did an amazing job simplifying such a complex reality. Great video.

[@vpdabholkar]

6:30 "Two essential feelings that define the separate self. The fear of death and the sense of lack. All the imaginary separate self's activities are designed to alle(viate) fear and fulfill sense of lack" : Beautifully said.

[@catherinea2726]

Kind eyes

[@benjaminlong4916]

Unless you are in pain.

[@jayasimharaghavan3351]

So powerful, and so true

[@AndreasDelleske]

Well then try to live through your mornings without coffee!

[@shravana108]

@@AndreasDelleske Be one with the coffee!;)

[@bildencarlia6924]

The three stages of realization that are mentioned in the above video are: Stage:1--The realization that you are pure awareness. Stage:2-The recognition that the nature of the awareness is infinite both in time and space. Stage:3-The endless process to manage to live all the realms of your life in accordance with the discoveries of stage 1(one) and 2(two).

[@ferdinandocoluccelli9574]

thank for your useful summary! Namaste

[@bildencarlia6924]

@@ferdinandocoluccelli9574 Νamaste dear friend...

[@krishnanjaishankar9737]

Beautiful!!! Well summed up

[@chadkline4268]

This is not all correct. Awareness/spirit is outside spacetime, it is zero dimensional.

[@chadkline4268]

Also, the spirit is not only awareness, but also conscience and the power of intent.

[@James-mk8jp]

What I love about Rupert is how straight to the point he is. No BS. No beating around the bush. No special rituals. He makes it simple because it is simple.

[@dr.mohammadsuhail3865]

I think that he is more clear than the eastern classical teachers who complicate things by sanskrit terms

[@JechtNH]

@@dr.mohammadsuhail3865the reason is that those eastern teaching are for everybody and for lower quality of consciousness people you need a ladder to weaken the ego. Non duality is a high level teaching, an average person will not get it at all.

[@sarahsbeta250]

I loved the part when he explained that the fear of death and the sense of lack are the basic attributes of the seperate self , it summarizes the humman suffering clearly💫👌

[@SebastianTaeggi]

This video contains the whole teaching in a nutshell. Basically, these eight minutes are all one needs to hear about awakening!

[@caviper1]

Sebastian Taeggi That is right

[@scottwalker8911]

caviper1 What is it that tells you and Sebastian this?

[@caviper1]

Scott Walker My memory of these experiences and my awareness of what comes after. I am aware that I am aware of these memories and experiences, and also aware of the fact that I am here and not lost in the stream of thought.

[@scottwalker8911]

caviper1 I understand. Thank you for your reply.

[@scottwalker8911]

caviper1 One more question if you would be so kind. Aren't the memories themselves totally mind generated through the thought stream?

[@magnamia]

Wow, peace radiates from this person and the very manner that he speaks

[@rto9364]

He’s a visionary and has mastered the art of life, may we all learn from him

[@johnburman966]

Awakening, loosening the tight bonds with the body and senses is both the most wonderful experience we can have and also the most resisted (try telling a family member)......wonderful, so fortunate to be in this time. Thank you Rupert.

[@PaulJonesy]

Yes, I’ve had some blank looks when beginning to explain this. I think it may be something people have to be receptive to or it just sounds like nonsense.

[@I-Am-Aware]

I wish there was some way that I could express the depth of my gratitude for helping to guide me to my remembering of my true nature. Sincere, kind, thanks for sharing your insights with the world.

[@varougemerdjanian1396]

Thank you for sharing and teaching me a new way of expressing my gratitude as depth different angle of appreciation, I love it🙏

[@abutterflybreeze790]

Thank you for sharing the thoughtful (wrong word) presence of his wisdom and gracious being with us. His speaking is better than a warm bubble bath or a nap on a rainy day ~

[@johnnosmith4417]

What a beautiful video. Thank you. Rupert is incredibly special

[@galaxysamsung5439]

Brilliant explanation.The best of everything I've hear on youtube on enlightenment.No fancy words,stories,BS,guru dressing,etc.Thank you.

[@Anamaria86-j9z]

Great teacher! So beautifully and lovely explained, thank you!

[@DLBurggraf]

To see your thoughts as just thoughts is to be free of them. (Some are are stickier than others)

[@margaritalopez5310]

and of desire?

[@marcelw1981]

@@margaritalopez5310 no thoughts. No desires

[@Kaspen82]

marcelw1981 it’s impossible to stop thinking

[@zain4019]

Kaspen82 No need to stop thinking. Just be free of investing your energy and attention into *unnecessary* thought.

[@christinakarlhoff1058]

@@Kaspen82 Let thoughts and feelings have their home in you, but don’t make your home in them. See thoughts and feelings like a train that enters a station and then leaves; be like the station, not like a passenger. Movie metaphor: the screen is not affected by any drama in a movie; as the observer... the knower...as awareness- you ARE the screen, not the movie.

[@TheseEyesGod]

This vid is so beautifully done - in every way. Heaven, itself, is in what is being shared here thru Rupert - or, at a minimum, release from all suffering is offered. Yet even the lovely floral bouquet being out of focus in the background - putting Rupert in sharp focus - says something relevant. Got no words for it - beyond sharing gratitude ~♥~

[@renukatandon7463]

Most beautifully explained TRUTH of my existence in such a short time..thanks Sir

[@GCastro777]

This might be one of the most beautiful videos on the whole youtube

[@spiritualanarchist8162]

If i'm honest, I should say that im getting more aware how unaware I am most of the time...

[@louissicali4301]

That is to be fully aware!

[@samkelenibe2018]

That in you which recognises unawareness is awareness.

[@ricktipton4077]

The moment you are aware that you are unaware. You are aware 😉

[@alexandreabashia]

thanks for you comment it kinda hit me

[@andersonfernandes4510]

I think we confound awareness with knowing with the mind.

[@DrNancyLivingCoCreatively]

When did we decide happiness was our right? The grace of being embodied I find beyond words. I think it's Gibrabran who said when a friend allows you to weep together we are friends. I used to belong to the boo ha club. One tale teller would be reviting. Eventually we wept so hard we began to laugh....I also laughed as a child when I was beaten as a child. Pain leads to transformation when love and connection are present.

[@toscavanderhoven8744]

This is such clear teaching.... Buddist teaching. Thank you. The teacher arrives when the pupil is ready🙏🙏

[@foedeer]

Perhaps we dont need 20 years to understand it, but it takes 20 years of learning to teach it ❤

[@PureAwareness76]

There is nothing to teach. What would you teach...? 🫢 There is nowhere to go, and nothing to do ❤

[@DrDeepak_Sharma]

I am so grateful that I was able to hear it. Thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@EnlightenedCarnivore]

Perfect. Just what I needed to know at this stage. Jed McKenna said "further" but I wasn't sure what that meant. Endless makes perfect sense. Thank you. ✌🙂

[@valerianoveloag2386]

After the recognition of our essencial being; it cannot be something more interesting than this!!! Incredible! Thank u Rupert :)))

[@pdvidz2266]

I was always this ! How did I forget ! I am the consciousness in this body vessel.

[@ClaudioBeckfilosofo]

Things are supposed to be the way they are, yet so complex, yet so simple. I've been listening to Rupert for quite some time and must say what a tender master he is, yet by master we can only call ourselves individually.

[@jeffreyaether3752]

Thank You for the last two minutes! 👏🙌💗

[@jtoneill17]

it's wonderful to hear those things you suspect.... so well articulated.

[@onepathmypath2935]

Thank you for eloquently parking the idea of enlightenment as a final and finite stage.

[@UmaerHashmi]

What tremendous beauty this just awoke a little bit in me

[@ShekharSingh-wm2be]

one of the greatest master rupert always makes it so easy...

[@galaxysamsung5439]

He's not even making it easy...becuse it is already easy ; it's the other teachers making out of it such a complicated thing !

[@Robinson8491]

Try reading the Upanishads, even easier!

[@paztururututu4864]

Thank you Rupert!!!!! ❤ So good! So beautiful! Thank you!! ☀️

[@MaxBerson]

Thanks for including so much science!

[@piehound]

Thank you Mr. Spira. My mind says *I LIKE THAT.*

[@mohamedladhaladha7997]

Its fun.Brings so much peace and Joy.Don't want it to end.

[@saraswathiab5995]

Thank you so much for this beautiful video.I would have been happy if you could tell us in more detail on how to live this understanding.

[@the12288]

What an amazing approach! So happy I have found this video

[@ellenrule3189]

Going to see Rupert at the garrison institute next week, want to understand how to live with these realizations in this lifetime!! Also took me 20 plus years of experiential knowledge..🙏🏼 its all cool!

[@jameschesterton]

There it is, all of you spiritual seekers out there, the final word, now go and get realized.

[@closedmindsneveropendoors]

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[@Devil-um3ns]

Very well articulated...I was looking for such a description

[@dnsps]

There are several separate stages to Enlightenment/ Self Realization. Read through the Dr. David R. Hawkins material (about 10 books). Start with "Power v. Force". Best to read them in the order written. He delineates the many different levels of consciousness, explains what you experience on each level, and how to get there. In over 50 years of study (and practice) on the subject of consciousness elevation, this is absolutely the best material. Best of luck.

[@Star_Light_4]

Couldn’t agree more. I don’t have 50 years into this. I found Hawkins at year 2 in my search but can feel the truth in the teachings. Love Rupert as well.

[@whocares6218]

Beautifully expressed. Thank you rupert.. 🙏🏼

[@mikeq5807]

That's so beautifully expressed!

[@lnbartstudio2713]

So beautiful ! I closed my eyes and I noticed it was dark ! Who knew ? :)

[@AnandAnand-qf5xx]

Who knew? Please tell me bro

[@healingmeow]

The end of this video was absolutely beautiful ❤

[@RodrigoLobosChile]

The 2nd experiencial discovery is a bliss and very liberating. Pure joy and love

[@lestscherne7396]

Thank you for your short talk above. I was very interested to hear about your realisation and I am impressed by the way you thoughtfully choose your words of explanation. One question did immediately came to me and I would appreciate your thoughts on the following: if "I" am that which is aware, does "that which is aware" and the awareness continue after what is commonly known as death? 🙏

[@catherinea2726]

Wonderful to listen to him

[@GCastro777]

Beautifully expressed. It is all here

[@passionbonsai88]

That ‘s where I am like he explained in head and behind eyes so funny . I was wondering if others feel this way too 😂😂

[@cattailer1077]

No words. Okay, two words....thank you🌟

[@Bassywassy20]

Thanks Rupert!

[@pippipster6767]

A lot of people saying, so beautiful, so clear and so on. I doubt most people understand it. It took him 20 years. I certainly don’t understand it.

[@emendatus1]

This cannot be understood!!!

[@jewishgenes]

Man right with you

[@MrBrandonDylan]

The thought my seperate self had when watching this video was "wow!".

[@PureAwareness76]

There is only ONE "stage" of REALization; I am Pure Awareness / Being aware of being aware 💗 And yes, thank you Rupert echoing that timeless wisdom, that it doesn't take 20 years to REALize it 🎉 💗

[@frauncisshakespeare438]

Padmasambhava says: Oh, once you have calmed the compulsive thoughts in your mind right where they are, and the mind is unmodified, isn't there a motionless stability? Oh, this is called quiescence, but it is not the nature of the mind. Now, steadily observe the very nature of your own mind that is being still. Is there a resplendent emptiness that is nothing, that is unestablished in the nature of any substance, shape, or color? That is called the empty essence. Isn't there a luster of that emptiness that is unceasing, clear, immaculate, soothing, and luminous, as it were? That is called the luminous nature. Its essential nature is the indivisibility of sheer emptiness, not established as anything, and its unceasing, vivid luster-such awareness is resplendent and brilliant as it were. This present, unmoving consciousness, which cannot be directly expressed in words, is given the name awareness. That which thinks is this alone, so it is given the name mind. It is this that is mindful of all kinds of things, so it is given the name mindfulness. While it is not seen, it is a special seeing that is clear, steady, unmediated, and steadfast, so it is given the name insight. It is that that makes distinctions among all specific phenomena, like separating the layers of a mushroom, so it is given the name discerning wisdom. All terms such as the sugatagarbha, the sole the absolute nature, primordial wisdom, the middle way, ultimate truth, Mahamudra, Atiyoga, and emptiness are names of this alone." from page 120. "A Spacious Path to Freedom ", by Karma Chagme.

[@criddycriddy]

Love to the one and only .... peace and light forever... 🌱

[@pursuitofspirit]

Wow this was amazing. Awesome

[@mathrodite]

The truth of transcendental awareness seems to be an act of faith. I've listened to at least a hundred hours of Rupert over the last couple of months. There is an act of faith similar to that required by a devotional religion that awareness can answer any deficit. I'm struggling with it....

[@kekfuszal]

"I am aware" is a thought. When there is no thought you don't know that you are aware.

[@ShakinJamacian]

Awareness exists prior to thoughts and emotions that appear in it. This makes more sense if you grasp the illusion of the ego and have deep meditative experiences. If you want sources of authority on the scientific end, I would suggest the work of Sam Harris. None of this depends on any religion or dogma.

[@kekfuszal]

+ShakinJamacian In order for you to know that you are aware you need the knowledge that has been given to you which is thought. Otherwise you don't know that you are aware. You don't even know what awareness is. Awareness is merely a thought. Awareness doesn't exist. The thought about awareness that exists. "I am aware" is merely a thought. Nothing else.

[@ShakinJamacian]

kekfuszal Well, what exists then? If awareness doesn't, what does? The nonsensical concepts like souls, selves, and egos?

[@kekfuszal]

+ShakinJamacian Well, even the question "what exists" comes out of the knowledge you have. Which is thought. Whatever exists or not, you have no way of figuring it out. All we have is to think ABOUT it. Trying to understand what life is, exists or not is futile. And there is no need for us to do so.

[@barbiereynolds364]

what a silly point. so Pluto didn't exist until we saw it? awareness is merely a thought? awareness does not require thought whatsoever. an animal or insect has no thought but it has awareness. you have it backwards and simply lack understanding. this is my impression of you: "the ocean doesn't exist. only waves exist." sorry dude but you're a frickin idiot when it comes to this enlightenment stuff.

[@sooommm]

Beautiful!

[@bza069]

what he states at 641 is totally backwards to TV !! Media bombards you with nonstop images of FEAR via "news" and LACK thru commercials. throw away the TV folks...its bad for your awakening.

[@rayhanchowdhury5940]

bza069 They are here also...

[@mk-ue9tx]

Listen over and overr again, you wil , find out the absolute truth ❤❤❤

[@jimprues1480]

This experience of Life consists of our presence in Eternal Awareness, all the while enwrapped in infinite energy. We literally live in Tao...

[@MUSICOBLISS]

Silence ♡ Presence ॐ Peace

[@PhillyTaiChi]

Sat Chit Ananda

[@leeburkai9830]

...sitting 'in' awareness, abiding without need or goal, one will eventually experience LIFE itself streaming you as all, into existence. Very, very subtle, always present but hidden by the noise of the 'self'...no big thing, just being the experience of being human. De Oppresso Liber

[@sirhinojo]

Most succinct!

[@closedmindsneveropendoors]

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[@neppson6702]

"It's an Art of Life" 🙏

[@blessos]

I don’t believe that the third stage has no end. Nisargadatta discribed this stage as love trying to find expression. Initially frustrated, ultimately victorious.

[@Avenstorn]

If in order to know a finite world, awareness must limit itself into the separate self, how can we be sure that there is no limit of awareness? A limit which, with our limited mind, we cannot know?

[@aflaz171]

It takes what it takes and a simple phrase is only going to give you the cognition, when that simple phrase by the grace of god or life is ready to be truly heard, or penetrates the self, bingo cognition of something that awareness doesn't even need to hear, how superbly insane.

[@leelanjoy]

GREAT ! THANK YOU RUPERT !

[@bigh7972]

I’ve read your comments. I am aware of where you are at in this moment. Wishing you a good day!

[@kekfuszal]

The knowing that I am aware is limitation. There is no freedom in knowledge. Freedom starts where all knowledge ends, even the knowledge of "I am aware".

[@ceeIoc]

Can you explain? Awareness is always knowing and always present. It’s more of a realization.

[@wthomas5697]

You know people are bullshiting themselves when they say they are not afraid of death. Everyone fears death. That's what keeps us alive.

[@ninarose3998]

I am pure awareness. Okay I get that. Without awareness, I wouldn't be much of anything. But I haven't seen any reasonable explanation that the nature of my awareness is infinite both in time and space. That seems like pure conjecture to me. There is no birth and death? How do you know my awareness is not a seed that starts and ends with my physical existence? Or even if it was universal, how do I know it didn't start at some point and end at some point? Or what it's nature is--perhaps it's just a spark, nothing more. Just because I can't see and experience birth or death, or yesterday, or over there which is not here, doesn't mean it doesn't exist! Can anybody please show me how we can conclude that our awareness is infinite???

[@AlOfNorway]

A beautiful video from a very wise man. There is however two errors, and that is firstly; that there are no numerical stages of realization. Realization and enlightenment is fathomless and as deep as the space of the universe. Secondly, there is a distinction between awareness and consciousness as with awareness there is always a distance towards the sensed object. Space between taste, sound, touch, visual and cognition. Consciousness however, has no distance, and thus is forever present and impersonal. In other words, awareness is an extension of consciousness, but not consciousness itself. Of all the teachers I have read and listened to, there is only Barry Long who has been capable of penetrating the deepest level of consciousness which is truly worth listening to if you are searching for the truest truth.

[@adamdire2392]

The mention of stages are merely a teaching aide (and i haven't even seen it yet). Point two, He uses the words interchangeably sometimes.

[@ClubuldeEngleza]

That 's remarkable.

[@hqcf]

That was beautiful

[@RakanaxxAlharthi369]

Namaste 🙏

[@richstureman4229]

Beautiful 🙏

[@doctorsalt8449]

thank you rupert

[@MaaNandaDhaam]

यदा यदा हि धर्मस्य ग्लानिर्भवति भारत:। अभ्युत्थानमधर्मस्य तदात्मानं सृजाम्यहम्॥हतो वा प्राप्यसि स्वर्गम्, जित्वा वा भोक्ष्यसे महिम्। तस्मात् उत्तिष्ठ कौन्तेय युद्धाय कृतनिश्चय:॥आतुरे व्यसने प्राप्ते दुर्भिक्षे शत्रु संकटे। राजद्वारे श्वशाने च यस्तिष्ठति स वान्धवः।कर्मण्येवाधिकारस्ते मा फलेषु कदाचन। मा कर्मफलहेतुर्भूर्मा ते सङ्गोऽस्त्वकर्मणि॥

[@Loveee216]

Thank you💚

[@carlavela7106]

Gracias ☺ 😊 💖

[@gypsydanger3765]

Please give him a ......... noble prize.......

[@benmcconaghy3313]

At about 5.15 this just breaks down in terms of coherence. You don't need to take this extra step into 'non objective' 'limitless' 'knowing ' but maybe - we automatically do in the absense of 'God'. Who is the knower ? Confusing awareness which has its roots in our ancestry with a 'panpsychic' kind of consciousness is projection, and ultimately understandable in human terms, but I think it bypasses some hard existential aspects to the reality we are inextricably enmeshed in.

[@momsazombie1]

This seems to me another way of saying 'I am the universe experiencing itself'

[@lillygeorge5008]

This filled me with gratitude. Thank you🙏🏽🤍

[@fur1na__1]

Fist awakening is seeing you are awareness of awareness and not thinking mind Second awakening is almost permanent without practice state of awareness that has no separation in time and not in space you don't fell that awareness inside body looking at the world it just one continues experience The third awakening that doesn't end that realization that the present awareness don't automatically cure all the conditions of the body (bad feelings) so now with the always present if awareness you welcome all the feelings and they conditions will lose power over time and body stay almost already relax Second awakening steel your thinkingmind Third process awakening steel your feelings body

[@MoiLiberty]

The significance of the passage of time, right, the significance of the passage of time. So, when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do to lay these wires. What we need to do to create these jobs. And there is such great significance to the passage of time when we think about a day in the life of our children.

[@bs5167]

Thank you 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@thailandamulets]

good explanations. There is no self, only experience and the unconditioned, but there is a self as far as unawakened beings in dream-thinking are concerned, and the discovery awaits everybody. The true Nature has always been here, it just needs remembering - in Buddhism the first realisation is called stream entry, and lists three of ten fetters which are shed with that revelatory realisation. Thereafter, the stages of progress described by Rupert also develop, as we see further and develop the causes of further realisations, and awakening. yes there are stages of awakening, because the causes have to be assembled, for the last 'penny to drop'. An apple tree may have five red apples all looking ripe on the tree, but we cannot predict which apple will fall before the other, nor when it will fall. IN the same way, we cannot predict when the causes of awakening will have accumulated, but hard work, self honesty, and deep introspection onto the influence of the senses, our views, the conditioned nature of our views and reactions, emotions, their influence, and so on, to see how all of those processes are not self, and that only emptiness, luminous awareness is present constantly, the rest, is all coming and going.

[@JohnSkidmoreLondonUK]

Thank you, I finally get it

[@RakanaxxAlharthi369]

Thank you

[@frauncisshakespeare438]

Just when you think you have realized the empty nature of awareness, grasping lingers on. You may think, "Ah, this is the nature of the mind now I've got it." But it is precisely at this point that you lose it, because this is when conceptual grasping comes in and derails you again. In this way, the mind is carried away and distracted. Until now, because of grasping, we have regarded that which is not the mind as being the mind. We have regarded that which is not consciousness as being consciousness. Space is primordially unestablished in reality, so it's impossible for it to have any color. Likewise, the mind is beyond the past, present, and future. It is also beyond all kinds of objectification. If it were to have even a slight basis in reality and the Omniscient One could not see it, that would contradict the entire meaning of "Omniscient One." Therefore, if it had any existence at all, the Omniscient One would see it. Until now, we have been involved in rejecting and accepting due to grasping onto our emotions, joys, suffering, and delusion. Why do we fall into these states when none of them has any true existence? Remember the reality of last night's dream appearances. All of these are unestablished. None of them has objective existence. However, don't ignore actions and their consequences. from page 119. "A Spacious Path to Freedom " by Karma Chagme

[@babygorl9541]

"You may think, "Ah, this is the nature of the mind now I've got it." But it is precisely at this point that you lose it, because this is when conceptual grasping comes in and derails you again." I do not think this is necessarily the case actually. The mind can exist within awake awareness. We do not have to maintain a dualistic view between mind and awake awareness, the former arises within and by means of the latter. Yes, *grasping* to the comments the mind makes can pull us back into the identification pattern. But we must be clear that it is the *grasping* that does that, not the mere activity of the mind itself. If the mind wants to label stuff, if it wants to say "I got it!" or whatever else, we can let it make it's comments and get all excited. It's just the mind doing what it does. The mind's activities can simply fall into the background of our experience while awake awareness remains the foreground. Awake awareness does not have to be threatened by that. But when we hold on to the idea that mind can not do x or else we will lose contact with awake awareness -- well that itself also becomes a grasping -- grasping for a mind that doesn't do what the mind naturally does.

[@billielafollette7308]

What does he mean we are limitless? I am only at stage 1. 😥

[@nikan4now]

I get that awareness is what permeates thru all experience but the sense of self is so identified with the personality. How can there be freedom from this especially since we are constantly reminded of characteristics of the personality.

[@TheseEyesGod]

Nikan RT Keep identifying with awareness. As you do so, you are plucking up, eventually to discard, the old belief in being the personality, the body-mind. Part of this is just being in the trenches of daily experience - of having a clearly set intention as u put 1 foot in front of the other. The intention, itself, is given momentum by the occasions when you identify with awareness. We start where we are, tho - which means we have other momentum in operation - which takes a while to wind down. Stubbornness in favor of your current chosen intention(s) also helps. ;-) PS Just watched this other vid & had to come back to share the link with you - The Great Misconception, also by Rupert - tinyurl.com/l68dgex

[@nikan4now]

TheseEyesGod Thanks. By identifying with aweness, do you mean noticing its presence from time to time?

[@TheseEyesGod]

Nikan RT LOL - this is such deep stuff that it's amazing we manage to get any of it transferred with our bulky, linear words. Take for instance Rupert - in this or any of his vids. If you center within - purposely leaving head or mind aside - then you perceive more of his meaning, his intention - it rides under the train of his words. It's in his vibe, if you will. Does that make sense? As you tune in to him, or anyone else who is identified with awareness - some call it Presence - you can actually _feel_ what is meant. Awareness is far more of sensing - not thinking at all. You want the direct *experience*, not just thoughts _about_ that - see? I also found that, by watching & reading lots about NDEs, identifying with awareness was a natural side-effect. Those are reminders that we are eternal, unlike these bodes that come & go. ~♥~

[@markbrad123]

Nikan RT Well you could do what they do in the movies when their surrounded by Zombies- pretend to be Zombies to not get eaten, LOL

[@MyParasar]

Nikan RT TheseEyesGod ( TEG) has given a very good reply to your sincere question. You have raised a very pertinent point which all the sincere seekers normally encounter in their seeking i.e., "How can there be freedom from constantly reminded characteristics of the personality". I will try to supplement what TEG has given. A strong desire to know the Truth only puts people on this path. Supported by this, sincere effort on the line suggested by people who have already treaded on the path is to be followed with faith. As suggested by TEG 'keep identifying with awareness' is the path recommended by many greats like Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadatta Maharaj etc. Now let me come to your main problem of "constantly reminded of characteristics of the personality". This is what Rupert calls 'conditioning' and traditional advaitins call 'vasanas'. In a nutshell, it is the sum total of impressions we accumulate through senses since birth ( and also through DNA). One's success or progress depends upon the strongness of this conditioning. But the very fact that one came to this point of making a beginning in a direction is itself a very good sign as very few only would reach this stage. Now let me address the main question " How to hold to the awareness?. It is simple -when other desires are dominant, the mind does not stay in self and stray to other sensory desires. Pulling the mind from these other desires and placing it in the self persistently would in the course of time wean the mind from other desires. The desire to know the Truth when gets strengthened other desires would decline. For this two things are required 1 -Effort 2. Grace. In fact, it is Grace only that enables Effort also. If you ask what is Grace? - simply it is an unknown source -may call it -Nature, God, Unknown cosmic Source for the time being ( in fact it is none other than SELF) I came across a beautiful example to explain as to how this 'staying with awareness' would work.. Let us compare the" characteristics of the personality " or 'the mind' with a fully recorded video cassette. The mind records all impressions it obtained through its 5 senses since childhood. ( and also from DNA) as already mentioned. It is like a film recorded on the video cassette. Now let us take a video cassette recorder connected to a TV screen. Insert the cassette in the VCR. Keeping the screen blank press the record button. What happens? The recorded material on the cassette gets erased and at the same time no fresh recording happens as the screen is blank. When you stay with 'I AMNESS' without falling into sleep ( record button is on ) the recorded impressions of the mind ( desires) gets erased without fresh addition. Thus instead of tackling desires directly, this is the surest way to overcome them.

[@Sun.powder]

He is such a brilliant teacher I am so grateful for his teaching but who was Rupert Spira,s teacher are there any videos of his teaching.

[@JustDontMove111]

Francis Lucille. He has a you tube channel also.

[@Sun.powder]

@@JustDontMove111 wow thank you.

[@steve7015]

A wonderful experience to be guided toward awareness. But all he can do is entice.