Reading Greek with Luke, An Ephesian Tale 1.1

[@ScorpioMartianus]

Welcome to Reading Greek with Luke, in which I read to you in Ancient Greek, and ask you questions about the reading, much as a teacher in a classroom. This video will help train your listening and reading comprehension, as well as your speaking proficiency. Let's read An Ephesian Tale! one of the earliest surviving Ancient Greek novels, by Xenophon of Ephesus who lived in the 1st or 2nd century AD. This novel involves romance, action, and adventure, and is thought to have been an inspiration to Shakespeare among others. *How you might use this video lesson:* 1. Click or tap on the part of the reading in the timeline (labeled μέρος α’ (part 1), μέρος β’ (part 2), μέρος γ’ (part 3), etc.) and listen to the recitation *without* looking at the text. Before I start asking questions about the reading, go back to the beginning of that part of the reading, and listen once again without seeing the text. 2. Listen to that part of the reading a third time, but now do so while reading along with the text. 3. Pause the video and recite the text aloud on your own. 4. Listen to my questions, and attempt to answer them aloud in Ancient Greek by finding the answer in the text. (You may pause the video if you need more time to answer.) You may add or skip steps as is appropriate for your level. The reason not to look at the text, but only listen two times in a row, is to help your brain isolate key words. For people not used to hearing Ancient Greek spoken to them without immediate reference to the written word, this will be challenging! But that's the idea: it challenges your brain to understand exclusively through auditory input. Then, when you hear the same part of the text a second time, you'll get much more. It'll surprise you! By the end of the video, you'll understand what you're hearing far better than when you started. No matter what your current level in Ancient Greek, this will likely present some challenge: not only do you have to get used to receiving auditory-only input (which is rare for anyone who works with an ancient language), but you will have to get used to the story, my manner of reading, and also the Classical Attic Pronunciation (discussed here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/moKloaqBjNONd9E ). The result of this exercise will be much improved reading comprehension in Ancient Greek that you can utilize with any text you encounter. You may even learn to speak a little too! The printed book I am using may be found on Amazon here (purchasing via this affiliated link brings a very small commision to support the channel): amzn.to/4f0QA1b This edition by C. T. Hadavas is exceptional because it has every new word calqued in English on the same page as the main text (I don't show you those parts of the pages). However, the original text that you see in the video, written by Xenophon of Ephesus, is available for free and can be found online, such as at Perseus: www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0649 My inspiration for this video series comes in part from my colleague Adrian Hundhausen, author of the Pharos Thematic Guide to Ancient Greek Vocabulary ( amzn.to/3A5iVV5 ) who teaches Ancient Greek in this fashion. See our interview here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJvEgaptgMR9gNU The other source of my inspiration for this series is from my colleagues at the Ancient Language Institute who have taught me so much about Second Language Acquisition and paedogogy in general. I discuss how you can accomplish this technique solo with any text in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raHbl4ufjNahosk 🦂 Support my work on Patreon: www.patreon.com/LukeRanieri 📚 Luke Ranieri Audiobooks: luke-ranieri.myshopify.com 🤠 Take my course LATIN UNCOVERED on StoryLearning, including my original Latin adventure novella "Vir Petasātus" learn.storylearning.com/lu-promo?affiliate_id=3932873 🦂 Sign up for my Latin Pronunciation & Conversation series on Patreon: www.patreon.com/posts/54058196 🏛 Ancient Greek in Action · Free Greek Lessons: kzbin.info/aero/PLU1WuLg45SixsonRdfNNv-CPNq8xUwgam 👨‍🏫 My Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata playlist · Free Latin Lessons: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGjLlWpvbq6tpLc ☕ Support my work with PayPal: paypal.me/lukeranieri 📚 Luke Ranieri Audiobooks: luke-ranieri.myshopify.com Join the channel to support it: kzbin.info/door/RllohBcHec7YUgW6HfltLAjoin 🌅 ScorpioMartianus apud Instagram: instagram.com/lukeranieri/ 🦁 Legio XIII Latin Language Podcast: kzbin.info 🎙 Hundres of hours of Latin & Greek audio: lukeranieri.com/audio 👕 Merch: teespring.com/stores/scorpiomartianus 🦂 www.ScorpioMartianus.com 🦅 www.LukeRanieri.com 0:00 Τὰ Ἐφεσικά 0:37 μέρος α’ 3:00 μέρος β’ 6:04 μέρος γ’ 6:41 μέρος δ’

[@YiannissB.]

The coincidence, I recently visited Ephaesus and this drops! Thanks for your work Luke

[@ScorpioMartianus]

@@YiannissB. What a coincidence!

[@jasonbaker2370]

Greek needs more material like this. This is great , thanks Lule! ❤

[@ScorpioMartianus]

Χάριν σοι ἔχω, ὦ Ἰᾶσον!

[@Horace-e8m]

Εύ εστί : χαίρω πολύ με σε ακούειν, ώ Λουκιε! ❤

[@dagadyes9240]

Love the video! Greek really needs stuff like this, many thanks!

[@ScorpioMartianus]

Thanks! More to come

[@andreassarchosis7635]

Θαυμάσιον! Ἡ ἀνάγνωσίς σου ἦν καλὴ, καὶ ἐχαίρομην πολὺ ἐν τῷ ἀσκήσει τὴν Eλληνικὴν γλῶσσαν.

[@temptemp8190]

This is great. I'm learning ancient greek right now; it's very useful to have someone read a text but also ask questions and answer them, using greek conversationally. Keep it up!

[@ScorpioMartianus]

Thanks! I will

[@floretion]

Nice- my giant tome (380 pages) of Peanuts comics arrived a few days ago that I will use to learn Italian. It's great because normally children's books in Italian all use the passato remoto, but here I find we get fairly advanced, everyday dialog.

[@Alessandro-b4k]

Passato remoto is good to learn, southern italians we use it esp in the dialects.

[@watermelonman3000]

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I decided to give it a go and now am finding it very helpful indeed!

[@ScorpioMartianus]

That's wonderful!

[@truthterrain3484]

I agree with many comments, more like this! I read quite a lot, but the whole talking to myself is still really hard. If someone who knows more does it, it is so helpful!

[@joelthiescheffer8163]

Multas gratias tibi, O Luci! Linguam Graecam antiquam eo modo discere magna iucunditas fit

[@ScorpioMartianus]

Gaudeō!

[@dori25t]

Thank you for showing us that good book

[@jebbs5771]

Gratias tibi ago propter pelliculas tuas omnes. Nuper coepi discere linguam graecam antiquam cum “active method”. Fortasse post decem annis hanc pelliculam intellegam.

[@Horace-e8m]

@@jebbs5771 Et tu jebbs5771? Optime fecis (dico ita quia et ego cominitiavi discere.) Non es solus... Et fortasse debeamus creare forum in interrete pro «amicis Lucii» qui cupiunt discere linguam achaicam. Nonne vero? Digna est res cogitandi... Salutem plurimum.

[@psychnstatstutor]

Thank you~ I had the speed on .30 lol and could follow along...mostly with letter sounds but not comprehension for the most part. Could not answer any of the questions haha. Have bookmarked these shares for my Daily playlist.

[@ScorpioMartianus]

Oh great! Yes, it’s very challenging; I do the same for myself with audio and text to grow my competency in this area.

[@ScorpioMartianus]

Oh great! Yes, it’s very challenging; I do the same for myself with audio and text to grow my competency in this area.

[@gphsjsh3593]

Εκπληκτικό! Επιθυμούμε και άλλα βιντεο της ελληνικής!

[@jon_007]

Ναι συμφωνώ

[@Uriel333]

Insane video! One question, what question needs to be made about "κατεγέλᾱ τῶν λεγόντων" in order to get the answer "ὼς οὺκ εἰδότων ὅτι εἴη εἷς καλὸς αὐτός" ?

[@dimitri1072]

Ὤ, πόσον καλῶς ἀναγιγνώσκεις τῇ ἑλληνικῇ, ὦ Λούκιε! Ἀληθῶς ἄγαν θαυμαστὸς καὶ ζήλου ἄξιος εἶ. Ὁ κάλλιστος ἡμῖν γὲ διδάσκαλος ὃν ἂν ἀείποτε προσδοκῷμεν. Τούτων ῥηθέντων, πευσόμενος ἔρχομαι τοῦ ἕνεκα αττικῇ φωνῇ χρῇ ἀναγνώσματι χρόνου κατὰ πολὺ μεταγενεστέρου; παιδείας ἆρα γε χάριν ὡς εἰκάζω;

[@happygamersloth9161]

Ἀνάγκη μοι ἔστιν λέγειν με οὐκ εἰδέναι περὶ τινός ἐστι τοῦτο τὸ ἐπεισόδιον διότι οὐ μακρῶς , ἀλλὰ βραχέως τὴν Ἑλληνικὴν γλώσσην μανθάνω. Ἀλλὰ αὕτη ἡ ποίησις σου ἀρέσκει μοι!

[@Veggiuto]

ἀλλά σε αἰτῶ ἡμῖν ἀναγνώσεσθαι πλέον· σφόδρα γὰρ θέλω εἰδέναι τί ποτὲ ὁ Ἁβροκόμης ὕστερον πράξει καὶ τί αὐτῷ γενήσεται.

[@GftAloo]

Is there any latin literature book with these "ā" and "ī"? (De bello gallico, Aeneis)

[@givenjoy512]

Just curious why you aren’t using the Lucian pronunciation with fricatives you promoted a few years ago.

[@ScorpioMartianus]

I’m using Classical Attic Pronunciation. And there are many variants of Lucian Pronunciation too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/moKloaqBjNONd9Esi=GV9aaU1C5BBOrFgs

[@ElizabethDMadison]

LOL I've read this in English. I don't know enough Greek (yet) to get much out of this reading. It is inspiring though.

[@arcanios806]

Thanks for this amazing video. I try to re-learn ancient greek right now but I am kind of desparing while trying. I tried to look at some original texts from Homer's Odysse and from Byzantine writers (Psellos, Anna Komnena) but it is so hard to understand anything. Can you recommend some original texts (preferably about Philosophy) that are easier to understand?

[@ScorpioMartianus]

Homer is quite different from Anna Komnena, whose writing is essentially Attic-Koine. Even fluent readers of Attic and Koine can only make out Homer with great difficulty - Epic Greek is an entity unto itself. I recommend conisdering the "tentative reading plan" at the end of this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKfOp6magNSna7c When it comes to philosophy, Plato is the best there is, and sometimes is quite clear, and other times opaque. Aristotle is also thought of as relatively accessible. You might look at the subjects they wrote about, and choose among them which dialogue by Plato or treatise by Aristotle appeals to your interest, and then try that.

[@arcanios806]

@@ScorpioMartianus Thank you so much for answering. That helps me a lot. I will try some of Plato's dialogues (maybe Gorgias or Phaidon) or Politeia then. For me personally it is so important to keep in touch with the texts im highly interestes in. I tried to use my old schoolbook but it was really not possible to have fun with the language that way anymore.

[@LanguageM]

Do pitch accents change from attic to koine?

[@ScorpioMartianus]

Same pitch accents. Only by very late Koine does stress accent take over, around 4cAD.

[@TheRomanSkull]

Come stai, Scorpio! Sono un tuo fan enorme e ero meravigliato se tu hai eventuali suggerimenti per studio Latina e Greco Classico? Vorresti impararli perché sono è nerd di Roma e sarà fino al giorno in cui morirò. Potrei aiuto me, per favore? (Mi dispiace per il mio macellazione, è il mio lingua seconda e sono non prendendolo bene. Grazie mille a Google Traduttore per il mio lacune in il vocabolario!)

[@konstantingeyst4568]

@ScorpioMartianus Was sm pronounced as zm? What's the evidence? I read as sm...

[@ScorpioMartianus]

Yes, σμ as /zm/ is mandatory; σ goes to /z/ in front of all voiced consonants: μ, ν, λ, γ, δ, β. My videos on polýMATHY cover all aspects of the pronunciation in detail: kzbin.info/aero/PLQQL5IeNgck0hFZ5oEfTV1Zhp_xksAgCz

[@konstantingeyst4568]

@@ScorpioMartianus i'd like to find an authoritative source with evidence about s becoming voiced before sonorants, but can't find any :( i'm interested in 5-4th BC mostly I've always thought it's Byzantine/Modern Greek accent (stemming from Koine probably) I pronounce everything just like you do, except I can't force myself to pronounce sm as zm, and z feels more natural as dz not zd or z (but it's a different controversial topic you made a whole video about :)

[@ScorpioMartianus]

Then read Sturtevant, Allen, Horrocks, Threatte, and Kantor, all of whom are cited in the videos I sent you above, and are the authority on this matter.

[@konstantingeyst4568]

@@ScorpioMartianus thanks

[@konstantingeyst4568]

@@ScorpioMartianus Sturtevant in the "Pronunciation of Greek and Latin" on page 75 says that "sm" possibly changed to "zm" roughly after 330 BC (and cites Zmyrnaios from 191 BC)

[@pavlosstaios6954]

Luke, are you reading to us your autobiography?

[@ElizabethDMadison]

He may or may not be Catholic but I doubt his devotion to Artemis.

[@ScorpioMartianus]

As I understand it, this story is the inspiration for Romeo and Juliet. So, I doubt a word of this might have the least resemblance to my life.

[@thesicilygamers]

​@@ScorpioMartianus Just the part about the beauty of the protagonist

[@ScorpioMartianus]

Haha. Then Roxas, that’s *definitely * not about me! Especially as a youth I wasn’t anything like Habrocomes.

[@BrandonBoardman]

@@thesicilygamers 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@alexhoffmanjazz]

Πως χαλερος ελλενιζειν! Λυπούμαι!

[@terrydalkos28]

Your accent is off man. You’re not pronouncing the words correctly. You’re making it sound more like a mix with Spanish and some made up language. It doesn’t at all sound Greek. DO NOT TAKE THIS PERSONAL. Only giving feedback brother. Something you can work on. I respect the effort though and the work you put in. Peace man.

[@ScorpioMartianus]

You are incorrect. Learn about the pronunciation of Ancient Greek here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/moKloaqBjNONd9Esi=NizNNOCeW2yPkQh7

[@BrandonBoardman]

He has been learning Greek for a while and he's very familiar with the modern pronunciation, but when he speaks ancient Greek he uses either the pronunciation of the Classical Attic dialect with the original pitch accents or a later κοινή dialect instead of the modern Greek stress accents.

[@terrydalkos28]

@@ScorpioMartianus I learnt how to speak in Ancient Greek from a child in the Greek Orthodox Church. They are the ones who speak it properly.

[@warrior_of_the_most_high]

Tell that to Aristotelos, he will ask if you are a farmer. (joking, do not take any offense) In all seriousness, there is a lot of evidence, as this channel shows in other videos, to say that Ancient Greek sounded really different from Modern Greek. If you like the pronunciation your were taught as a child, that's fine. Even I have a hard time pronouncing Sanskrit as it should be because I was taught a regional pronunciation (it's also used in religious ceremonies). So I switch between the two sometimes.