Malco Eagle Grip Factory Closing. Denali Claw Locking Clamp. Master Combination Locks

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[@tombob671]

my dad bought 2 vise grip locking pliers in 1954 to augment his Craftsman mechanics tool set.I was 7... the tool set and the vise grips are still in the family in my baby brothers garage. my pop believed in both brands. Dad grew up on the farm and taught us to respect tools. He was an accountant but was still blue collar in his economical ways

[@jackthompson2132]

This is a hard time for all types of companies not just tools. It is sad. Great video today. Thank You for sharing!

[@thomasstogner4715]

I had such high hopes for Malco to succeed with their tool line. It was such a great story- Malco is a USA tool company who took over the previous Vice Grip plant (after Irwin brought their Vice Grip line to China) and employed many of the previous Vice Grip employees, from what I understand. They also won the vice grip showdown on Project Farm's channel. (John, you should check it out). Interestingly, the Irwin vice grips you showed are also made in China nowadays. If that one company is making a profit on an $8 tool, imagine the profit Irwin is making by switching to Chinese manufacturing and charging $22. And, imagine how hard it must be to be a USA made tool manufacturer today if you need to charge $50 for the same tool and can't stay in business. Overall, a very sad day for Made- in - USA tool fans.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Yes- I saw project Farms excellent video- I have a multitude of locking pliers- The Malco’s are the best but they were priced out of the reach of most non-professionals. If they were half the price they were still more then the competition. 🤔👍

[@xklymr4395]

yes american industrial manufacturing is dying. I bought a set of crescent locking pliers couple of weeks ago , 29.99 canadian for 5 piece include largest 10 inch one in this video, made in china. I guess 70 percent quality of malco maybe? can't imagine malco charge 20 times than this, I have to say: your destiny is what you deserved. move your factory to asia, keep high quality, charge reasonable is only way you can still keep alive.

[@WeekendShedHead]

Hey scout, love the padlocks! I remember at school gathering with friends near the lockers for swap shops, football (soccer) cards etc, my padlock was bullet proof 🤣👍 cheers Rob

[@toolrestoration]

Love clamps and locks !! Thanks John for a tri weekly show .chattys always a winner btw !!

[@tomdale1313]

"The Snoop", "HOME SWEET HOME" cold and wet in "Freeattle" of late, tanks for sharing

[@jimjohnston7688]

Boy do those combination locks bring back memories. We had a guy in shop class who'd forgotten the combination. He would take his stool and he know just where to hit that lock to make it open. Good times.

[@andyc972]

It's a familiar problem you speak of regarding high quality locally made tools, particularly here in the UK, there are virtually no manufacturers of tools that are not high end with a price to match. You mentioned it in passing, but the big issue is the nature of the tool and whether it can justify the premium price - much easier to do for a hand plane or a hand saw than for a DIY tool like an adjustable wrench, however superior it is ! It's great that in the USA you do still have brands that occupy the middle ground such as Channellock, particularly where imported brands such as Knipex, Wiha, Felo & Wera are expensive, Klein is less clear cut but have a loyal following and great products too, of course the economics are very different here in the UK !

[@John..18]

Over here in England, these type of locking grips, are known as "Mole Grips" (by the old 'uns,, lol, ) it's the name these go by, just like most people refer to a vacuum cleaner, as a Hoover,,.. Mole Grips were the widely available grips, for many years, but now other brands are available,, in fact, I've got a couple of pairs of vise grips, and no "Mole Grips" , !!,, All the best from across the pond... John..

[@MaestroSmoke]

On another Channel, (either CP the tool addict or doc over at last best tool), I used a very similar ad to the one you showed here in your video from Peterson to calculate the working cost of purchasing Peterson vise grips in 1949 versus Malco Eagle grips in 2022 when making Federal minimum wage in both eras, and I found that in 2022 you actually had to work .05 hours less. The fact is corporations have flooded the market with cheap tools from other places with China being number one in that regard but certainly not alone, and we've apparently come to expect a $10 locking plier in 2022 when in 1949 they were $2.50. Our perception of tool cost has changed and that corporate trickery has cost our fellow Americans their jobs.

[@snapringchronicles3020]

I really like when you bring out the locks 🔒👍

[@big_steven2226]

As an engineer I will always pick a quality tool over anything that’s low quality even though it cost a lot more. The problem is that a lot of people out there don’t get access to the same tools without the knowledge as all the franchises have deals with brands that are low quality and a hyped up price. Can’t tell you how many times I have used someone else’s tools and it like they are made of chocolate lol

[@samfeldman1508]

IMO it all depends on how often I use the tool. If I’m reaching for it often, then yes, spend $$$. But many tools I rarely need or use and I opt for the less expensive.

[@terryrogers1025]

On the tools, my personal opinion and approach is that the money a person pays out for tools needs to be in line with the frequency, profession, and reliability of the tool for the job. I have every thing from Harbor freight, craftsman, Snap- on, S&K, and many other brands out there. They all fill the bill for what I do, I am not brand loyal, great video, thank you sir.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Terry- spot on!!!

[@bobjoncas2814]

....great look at the history of different tools, have a great week..

[@jims_workshop]

As always great show !!

[@kevinbrassil9836]

Thanks ScoutCrafter!

[@James-oj6ck]

Good points on tool price and materials for the home user.

[@beerdrinker6452]

Always interesting and informative content. Chatty is good. You always share terrific information and history. Thank you.

[@ddblairco]

Thank you Scoutcrafter.

[@408Magenta]

Good show. Thanks.

[@alanr4263]

Stamped with that good old Made in the U.s.A

[@lewiemcneely9143]

The Malco jobs jaws were a lot stronger with the ridge where the teeth were. I'm glad you showed both together. IF I needed some I thing I'd spring for the Malco's because of the extra heft because the way I do things it woild come in handy in dire situations. God Bless and have a FINE week, John CS!

[@tonylenge424]

How can any company compete when the game is fixed! Very interesting video.

[@scottcornish3462]

Love the eagle grips - already had the 7” but ordered the 10” as soon as I heard they would stop making them. Agree they are expensive but the fit and finish is amazing. I would have liked to see Malco be able to keep it going but so hard to compete with everything else out there at that price point. Even with the excellent quality.

[@naznomad635]

Mole Grips - pull lever to release ... Vise-Grips - push lever to release... I always hurt myself releasing Vise-Grips. 🤣

[@ScoutCrafter]

I have both styles and do like the Mole style. 😃👍

[@saigaking]

Roll on 2024 when we get back to normalcy and we by American Sell American and America is put first full tides lift all boats Great video god bless America 🙏👍🦅🇺🇸🗽🇳🇿😊

[@corymcgrath5652]

Thanks John, now I have to try remembering the combination for my documents safe. Nuisance lock, hmm never heard that term before. Might be a Canadian thing. I always called them School locks.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Cory- They don’t use the term today but years ago that’s how Master marketed their line as far as quality…. 😃👍

[@flashgordon6238]

Just bought the Malco Eagle Grip Pliers and the Denali set. Sad to hear Malco pliers division is closing

[@bobuncle6962]

I think it comes down to the wage paid to the workers. I try to support the local guys even if it costs me more. But it is tough for business.

[@helpinghandremodeling3755]

I have the Irwin pair as well. Placed my order, per your recommendation...lol

[@staceygandy2009]

I got to get two or three of those and not just that are dirt cheap but I like the jaws on it. I have vise grips which are really nice for the price. I probably have 50 all different models. And two dozen c-clamp type some with the steel pads and others without. I use them alot when welding.

[@brianlittle3452]

I own one of each Eagle Grip Vise Grip models. The Eagle Grips are one of the best built and high quality vise grips. The Eagle Grips are also one of the most expensive vise grips. The units are too expensive for most trades to use. A while back, one of our 16 foot garage door cables busted while the door was transitioning between open and close. The door got stuck at an angle. The garage tech brought out a 5 gallon buck of vise grips and used six or more vise grips on each side of the door to slowly get the door back into the correct position without damaging the door. There is no way that the average tech could afford a bucket of Eagle Grips. Another example - Eagle Grips are too nice to use on a welding table getting attacked with weld spatter. The dollars spoke, Malco listened, and is shutting down Eagle Grips. A sad story....

[@ScoutCrafter]

Brian- Excellent points! So true! 😃👍

[@connguy146]

That's just it- the labor there vrs the labor here is what allows them to sell at the prices they do.

[@not2fast4u2c]

I bought a pair of the Malco 7 in pliers just because they are so nice and made in NE just next to me in IA So sad they are closing the plant again like Irwin did

[@ScoutCrafter]

Jim- Those Malco’s are absolutely beautiful but because of the price I only bought one pair! 😂👍

[@AtomicReverend]

I have had a ton of cheap tools when I was younger, in fact busted tools, knuckles and extra time doing projects because of junk tools made me realize that I absolutely believe in the old saying "you pay for what you get". On adjustable locking pliers I find cheap ones will round off their teeth when you need them to grip the most. Vice grips have been pretty good quality the vintage vise grips from the 1970s or older are just absolutely bulletproof I don't know what kind of steel to make the teeth out of but I have had some that have been used and abused even hit with hammers and they work like they're brand new. My Chinese equivalents have been turned into welding pliers because that's all they're good for lol On a off-note scout have you seen the KZbin channel called the "torque test Channel" they test tools both new and old in a scientific manner it's actually a pretty neat Channel especially for somebody that is in the trades or that understands the trades I think you might enjoy it.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Your so right- Sometimes having cheap clamps saves your good tools from weld spatter! 😃👍

[@ronaldbrown5745]

I think it’s about putting your competition out of business and then setting the price for profit.

[@pickletreewoodcraft7858]

You’re right there are two good points to be made with the pliers as a former body tech I may own 100 locking pliers majority being vise grip, best way to buy them is in sets when they go on sale also I would buy used ones and that collection took a few years but I had many imports as well I considered them as disposable since you can pick up handfuls of them in bulk for almost nothing but those are the ones I would use around places I was welding, I found they just can’t take much torque the jaws would pop out of the handles or the handles or spring guide would bend and so on but my point is that I use the American pliers for tough jobs and the others for anything I just didn’t care so much about as to not damage my good ones by a mistake. That’s my rant of the day!

[@ScoutCrafter]

You are 100% spot on! Inexpensive clamps make perfect welding clamps as they really get beat up during use!!! Excellent! 😃👍

[@chrislewellen4016]

Thanks got another great video!

[@larrynelson734]

Another great video. Love the information. Have a great day. 👍👍❤....

[@CounselorsinChrist]

I was able to get a pair of the Denali clamps! Should be to my house tomorrow. I'm still waiting for my Cal-Van angle drive. Bought the drive the day of your video on them and estimated arrival date is currently Dec 2nd. Lol. Meanwhile, they are now selling for 3 times the price of what they were the day of the video. You have the Midas touch!

[@ScoutCrafter]

John- I really think you will like the Locking clamp! 😃👍

[@CounselorsinChrist]

@@ScoutCrafter They look like they're going to make a great addition! Thanks for the suggestion and for the great content!

[@overseas_demogod]

Just bought a Malco sheet metal crimper. Great tool!

[@kristenwill57]

Thank I just ordered my just ordered my Denali I order the big red tool box I should have ordered a couple

[@ScoutCrafter]

I think you will be pleasantly surprised!!! 😃👍

[@jasonwitt4333]

I ordered the Denali ones and they had a 2 pack of the regular ones and a needle nose type for $11. Surprising the quality is not half bad, definitely going to try them out.

[@stevenwitt4028]

Great show as always👍 I think 🤔 those USA 🇺🇸 Vise grip pliers you own are way better than those Chinese🇨🇳 made pliers, but I see what you are talking about that price but how are they making & shipping for that ridiculous price🤔😳?? I ❤the combination Master Lock 🔒 you showed, that was interesting how it opened. I thought that was a good shot behind you at the closing of your video of Old Glory🇺🇸 at night with the flag pole lights shining bright. Well again great video can’t wait to see your video on Wednesday.😀👍

[@rayleder3705]

Fascinating episode. $8.25 is unreal. It would cost me that much to drive to Harbor Freight to buy a similar Chinese tool!

[@Resto-Rob]

Excellent!

[@Marcel_Germann]

Universal Postal Union, it's an agency of the United Nations. And China is considered being a developing country, so they get special conditions for international parcel. Amazon gets special conditions because they have masses of parcel.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Marcel- My local post office is prohibitively expensive these days!!! 😃👍

[@Everythings_Adjustable]

It's a great shame when any factory closes

[@lotsatrains]

Another amazing video and I know exactly what you mean about not being able to compete for those vice grips that’s an amazing price for sure 👍

[@lordvengerx]

The price comparison is insane. The quality is really good too. Just sucks to hear about something closing down. But you are right when it comes to the competition and the market

[@rawbacon]

Speaking of inexpensive tools a couple weeks ago I got a 48 blade scroll saw pack off eBay for 99 cents delivered (free shipping)......4 different TPI 12 of each TPI............From the start I couldn't see the Eagle Grips making it when they charged that much, there's just not much of a market for $50 "Vice-Grips".

[@ROD59]

John, you are so right , I can't say anything else . Unless companies here take a little bit of a hit some of them won't survive

[@alexstools]

There's no competing.. However being a tool snob, I would probably buy one today for 50 bucks if I could but they're not available here.. This summer I finally bought a Master no. 19! I look forward to Wednesday's, thanks!

[@toolrestoration]

I would buy an original Dewitt .... Which is my current favourite vice grip I use btw !

[@ScoutCrafter]

Alex- Here the number 19 locks run about $100. Such a beast of a lock! Heavy and huge! 😃👍

[@alexstools]

@@toolrestoration I have one. I would just like the experience of buying something USA made of the shelf.

[@jeffmoss26]

I love my Eagle grips but you’re definitely right, the price is just not sustainable long term

[@bigvicsworkshop]

I wanted a pair of the eagle lockable pliers for a while.. I just can't bring myself to pay that much..heck i have a drawer of about 40 Peterson and craftsman that I didn't pay 50 for all of them... but the eagles do look like quality! I'm not sure how anyone competes with prices like the pair u got...heck they are disposable at that price... combo lock info was interesting...thank ya sir

[@ScoutCrafter]

In my opinion the original Petersons are the winner.

[@805ROADKING]

I almost bought a $50 Malco but opted for a 4 piece Tekton set made in Taiwan for the same price, especially after realizing that I would eventually accidently weld them to a hunk of steel anyway!!☻

[@adamjames1375]

I'd be interesting to see Malcos' "books". I've worked Union manufacturing for years & understand fairly well the several facets of increased labor costs in 1st world countries. It just doesn't make sense to me. For years Craftsman "subbed out" nearly exclusively U.S. manufactured pro-sumer into pro grade tools, all the while being sold in large retail stores (most notably Sears) often needing to cover exorbitant mall rent & employees. I guess my point is just that, "we were once able to produce domestically; innovative high quality tools, that were affordable to the average American". I agree $50 is just too much. It's hard to compete with a very functional $8 pair. I just can't comprehend why those couldn't be sold at a profit for $30 or so. I think we're in real trouble. Ah well.

[@ScoutCrafter]

You bring up some outstanding points. I think if they diversified more and offered a few more products they could have made a go of it. Remember the old US Vise manufacturers, they made such a good product once a person bought one it lasted forever. =D

[@williamcarroll3807]

I will always buy American when given the chance , knowing that nine times out of ten it will be more costly. In this case the product was/is clearly superior. Buy once cry once.

[@americansewingmachineresto1545]

One of the Chinese practices I think is the government supplements the cost, and they flood our market until they drive the US companies. Home Despot is an example of driving the little guy out of business. Does Amazon still use the USPS for the last leg of delivery below the cost they can support so the taxpayer foots part of the Amazon freight costs. It’s a shame we have come to this. Maybe after this week we will turn the corner. I do like the Japanese and Taiwanese quality. Nice lock description. You sure know your stuff. Hats off to you. Best Regards, John

[@ScoutCrafter]

John- It's also like the Walmart syndrome, at least with Home Depot they were limited to certain products, Walmart killed entire towns! Amazing right? Thanks!

[@LoStivale]

And like clockwork I’m on Amazon buying another tool. 😂

[@marko11kram]

I have 2 pair of the Malco's. One I purchased on the pre-release price, one a but later, as the quality is superb. I was uite hopeful that they would survive when Snap-On picked them up. Too good to be true I guess. The price on the ones out there will only skyrocket

[@Traderjoe]

The Vice grip one that’s the better version of the Denali one are one of my favorite designs. Incredibly versatile. The shape reminds me of a whales skull.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Yes! I really like those open jaw designs.

[@lv_woodturner3899]

There are companies which manage to stay in business and grow despite their products being many times more expensive than competitors. Festool is an example. They have good design and manufacturing, but the prices are too rich for my blood. Despite this, my local Woodcraft store has a good percentage of the floor space dedicated to Festool products. Very sad Malco locking pliers was not able to survive. I wonder if the name will be purchased by another Chinese company, as happened with ShopVac, Jorgensen clamps and others. The Denali plier jaw shape is interesting. I have the Vise Grip large jaw version which does come in very useful at times. Dave.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Dave- I was always amazed that Festool could stay in business. Very pricy! Thanks! 😃👍

[@billmccabe9601]

Last job finally secured coat lockers, but had to use a company issued lock. We had Red combo's and the other contract operator issued black dials. All were Back keyed for unannounced inspections.

[@ianbutler1983]

I worked at a company where we implemented a program like that. The lawyers said if the locker had our lock, it was legally our space and could be searched at any time. If the employees had their own lock, it was their space. I almost never searched a locker, but a few times when they were being used to steal merchandise or hide drugs for sale. I told everyone if they were worried about privacy, leave it at home or in your car.

[@billmccabe9601]

@@ianbutler1983 I worked as a Secondary Co-Pack Logistics for a candy company...one rule was NO FOOD stored in lockers as that would be a pest draw, yes, I have pics of roaches coming out of someone's lunchbox...she didn't stay past the day. So if it was in a locker bank, the whole bank would have been infested. I also caught someone from the other contractor stealing product from our facility. Fool accidentally left his locker open with lock dangling...oops.

[@bwayne40004]

Yet again, I jumped on a tool deal today. You're costing me $$$! Again. Speaking of those school locker Master locks, my junior high school issued them for the lockers. Some kids would, to quicken the "pit stop" not snap the lock, just position it for rapid, lunch time access. One teacher in particular, Mr. Cunningham would go out in the hallway checking locks, pulling on them to make sure they were indeed locked and if not, he would turn the lock around, snap it and the unfortunate student would have to contort to work the dial. Never happened to me, I always locked up but I remember the guy going up and down the hallway rows of lockers. Mid day amusement for him.

[@ScoutCrafter]

OMG! You brought back a lost memory! Yes, we would run the first two numbers so we could quickly access the locker next time! =D Awesome! Thanks!

[@WHATDATTOOLDO]

Lucky they are still for sale im hoping the bump in sale kept them goin but i haven't heard anything

[@ChickenLips412]

Amazon looses money on each sale, but they make up for it on volume.

[@davidspinney2023]

Hi Scoutcrafter I think its predatory pricing they sell things at cost or even at a loss to put other company's out of business then when their competition is out of business then the prices go up. The $50. pairs they wanted to make a high-quality product and maybe got a little carried away. Snap On gets away with it but they bring a beautiful display right to your workplace, make some tools no one else has, offer financing etc.

[@aceroadholder2185]

And yet, when all else has failed you go to the back of the tool drawer and get out the genuine Vice Grips.

[@hulkpeace]

From my non american point of view here in germany, i always got the impression that american made tools are way more expensive than chinese or taiwanese import ones. You can't expect random people to pay up to six times more in a case like that. Just today, for comparison, i visited my local hardware big box thingy to buy paint, and on my way to the cashier i picked a knipex needle nose plier for 12,80 Euro. At that price point it's a no brainer. Same thing with other brands like wiha, inbus or whatever, the price difference compared to import stuff isn't nearly as high. At least with hand tools. By the way, because you mentioned gedore, they went from top notch to garbage in just a few years. The old gedore (dowidat) stuff is practically indestructible, today you can consider yourself lucky if only half of your new wrenches have a random factoy bend or bad forgings. The price however has gone up and surpassed brands like hazet or stahlwille which were usually more expensive.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Wow! I had no idea Gedore lost quality! Very interesting! Thanks!!!

[@hulkpeace]

@@ScoutCrafter It's not an the same level as some random sketchy chinese tool brand for sure but it's destinct enough to seriously question their attitude in terms of quality and responsibility towards customers. Maybe you know what i mean, when i describe it as 'better with safety googles' brand. It's actually kind of sad for me, i basically grew up with my fathers and uncles gedore tools.

[@zippy1981dotnet]

I'm sad for the factory for sure. I was unaware they were the same Peterson factory, but I knew that other than them no one made locking pliers in the US. I'll say one issue with locking pliers is they tend to be used and abused in ways that i don't really consider them BIFL. So while I will spend "knippex money" on many tools, I'm not sure I'd spend more than $20 on locking pliers. Regarding the master lock, my Catholic high school in Queens, holy Cross, used that model, with the key on the back for the dean to get access

[@ScoutCrafter]

Franny Lew!!!! 😃👍

[@wireworks616]

Sorry to hear about Malco. A couple of videos ago I did on the Chrysler key and lock, the key code cutter I used was from China. They do make some very good equipment. I saved $3K by purchasing the same thing that would have cost me $8K. What drove me to the Chinese version was it had a rechargeable lithium battery inside. I can take it anywhere and cut car, house and lock keys and not have to have AC hook up. The Chinese will eventually dominate the market

[@ScoutCrafter]

China has some great factories and some bad ones. It’s like online gambling! 😂😂😂👍

[@Vandal_Savage]

I have never given Amazon a single penny of my money and nor will I ever... that guy that owns it is rich enough. if I need something bad enough I'm going to give my money to someone who deserves it...

[@ScoutCrafter]

Honestly as a company I have always had good results with amazon- now Home Depot is another story! 😂👍

[@stevef8993]

Think how low the cost is to make those vise grips overseas when they still have to pay for a cargo ship and still only costs 8 bucks. Cheap material, cheap labor, poor processes, less regulation and less demand on profit. In this country every company owner wants to be a millionaire in the first couple years and every year there after. Greed is why we’re losing businesses.

[@ScoutCrafter]

So true Steve!!!

[@shawn57187]

I love the outro music! Just curious, have you ever restored any gas powered tools like chainsaws, etc?

[@ScoutCrafter]

Yes but not on video- just too long for my videos. I spent 15 years restoring a 1951 Pontiac! 😳😂👍

[@shawn57187]

@@ScoutCrafter Ooh! It would be cool to see that

[@thomasstogner4715]

Not Malco! Already?? What a shame.

[@jackof1]

In their press statement Malco said that the Petersen plant/locking pliers space wasn’t in their “core competency”, which is corporate speak for “We f’ed it up”

[@smithtown6589]

Why do we fail when Taiwan and China succeed? Simple- we do it to ourselves. States impose living wages, mandatory maternity leave for mothers and fathers, high taxes, minimum sick and vacation requirements, overtime rules, etc depending on which state you live in. The Federal government imposes a variety of laws about environmental requirements, wages, tax laws, health care, retirement, and you name it. So a manufacturing company has to hire a battalion of lawyers and accountants to figure out everything the company has to be compliant with. It just adds cost to the product. That’s why we can’t compete. I’m not saying it’s all bad, but just that all the laws and requirements overwhelm a company that just wants to make something that’s “Made in the USA”.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Ralph- You are correct, however with the right administration I believe that US businesses can thrive. I'm a fan of tax breaks for companies so they stay here in the US. Some people want to bleed them dry. =D

[@davidpowell3347]

Just by looking at the plier,I don't think you can tell if the jaw teeth are so - so hardened,very well hardened or perhaps not hardened at all.

[@chrisharper2658]

Seems like after every episode, I have to go check out my tool box. I have a pair of the vise-grips that were my dad's. Had to remove the chrome plating from them. Nothing worse than peeling chrome on hand tools. Scout, have you looked at the Stanley 85-610 (locking adj. wrench)? I thought they were a neat idea but the jaws are too soft. Made in China. So I thought I'd try the HF Icon plier wrench which is a knockoff of a Knipex. Only used them a little but aside from being a little tricky to adjust, they seem good. Kind of a surprise, some stores can't seem to keep them in stock.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Yes! That was the killer with the Irwin vise grips- Soft jaws! 😃👍

[@davidpowell3347]

Is Snap On now operating the plant? Or did Snap On buy the machinery from the plant and move it to another plant to manufacture the line of locking pliers as part of their own operation?

[@atfsgeoff]

I picked up ten of the Amazon Denali pliers a couple months ago for $3.80 each. It's absurd how inexpensive they are.

[@mattsmith6828]

glad I picked up my 7" & 10" curved jaws. dang......

[@mitchjohnson4970]

Do you ever buy extra of a tool? I'm really liking the Gearwrench red acetate screwdriver set that you showcased on your channel. However they don't make them anymore and they're pretty hard to find. Im debating on buying an extra set for when my other set wears out while I still can.

[@rawbacon]

A brand new 8pc set on eBay will cost you $21.90 and that includes shipping.......A 10pc set is $27.80 and that includes shipping.....Seems like a worthwhile investment to have a spare set if it's something you really like....The sellers name is "cripedistributing" out of Idaho.

[@mitchjohnson4970]

@@rawbacon, thats who I bought my first set from.

[@ScoutCrafter]

Cripe- on eBay has some really good deals and hard to find tools! There’s an old saying- If you really like something but 2 because good stuff always has a way of disappearing! My buddy had a Dad who bought 3 of every thing he liked! 😂😂😂👍

[@mitchjohnson4970]

@@ScoutCrafter, I do that with knives but I hadn't adopted that theory with tools. Guess I have now.

[@Donthetoolman]

It’s a shame people complain about 50 dollars but they don’t think twice about paying 90 dollars for the snap on grips That in comparison to malco grips it’s apples and oranges people 50 dollars for a pair of grips that will most likely outlive you if used properly will always be cheaper than spending 20 dollars numerous times throughout one’s lifetime just my 2 cents

[@ko2fjb]

The fit and finish might look equal or better than the USA made but what about the quality and strength of the material? Will the cheap one's break or deform the teeth under excess pressure and use? What about the BMC brand? My dad had these and they were a real pain to use.

[@ScoutCrafter]

The cheap ones will not compare to the higher quality ones... However, depending on your application the cheap ones might be better for you- One example is welding where the clamps get damaged another is woodworking where you need multiple clamps... =D

[@nicknicoletti9778]

I went ahead in the middle of your video to go on Amazon. And tomorrow, $8.15 delivered I’ll get myself a Denali locking claw. Unreal. How can they do it??? Baffling!!

[@ScoutCrafter]

Nick- It’s like getting a free pair just pay shipping! 😂👍

[@marshville01]

Think about the labor rate.

[@troymilleraz]

👍

[@unwired1281]

So it cost 16% of what the Malco does. Too bad there isn’t that discount for buying foreign cars.

[@larryborkstrom3580]

One problem they never got them in stores like home depot Lowes and Menards everyone home tool kit a set of locking pliers is a staple and all they had to do come down$10 think they got the price from new old stock Peterson vice grips

[@frankblack5129]

I wish l had found a local place to purchase Eagle Grip pliers, l like to pay ca$h for food, gasoline and tools not really any local (independent) hardware stores around to purchase better tools today, your pretty much stuck with what the big home retailer stock which is profit driven offerings I have used Bremen brand locking pliers from Harbor Freight and they preform without any problems and show no deformation of the teeth after repeated use

[@Resto-Rob]

Just looked on Amazon 11/09/2022 $22 now. 😥

[@jacobbambam5460]

Simple. cheap version and a pro version.

[@MaestroSmoke]

CP the tool addict is the posterboy for why I keep a beard; don't want to look like a man child, heh. Great channel!

[@SmallEngineMechanic]

It is a shame that Malco could not stay competitive although it's not all that surprising... Like you mentioned John, the reasons are almost too numerous to wrap you head around. Not to be a downer but I think the majority of my generation (Millennials) has been trained from birth to accept mediocre, short lived products as the norm. Most Millennials are always looking for the newer shiny item packed with useless features. Also the need to get as much "stuff" or "features" for the least amount of cash has become a real bragging point for most. Kind of the quantity over quality mindset... I admit, I did not buy a pair of Eagle Grips. Mainly because I have a couple older pairs of good Vice Grips and because of infrequent use had no need to buy another set of locking pliers. All that aside, even if I did need a new pair, it would be a hard sell. I don't think I would hesitate to spend $25-30 in a store for a pair of locking pliers. I say "in store" because I like to handle a tool before I buy it. I think is gives me a better feel for quality. That left over $20-25 can go to other needs. I suppose to some extent I have been trained too, at least I realize it though!!

[@ScoutCrafter]

Mike- You and I are old souls born years too late, you are spot on about having your cake and eating it to by buying old tools!!! 😃👍

[@Reggyontheroad]

Boom

[@Reggyontheroad]

That was Debbie , I’d fallen asleep in the chair, and she’s nudge me awake 🤣

[@joeheilm]

I have been using the heck out of my monster max pliers...crazy how inexpensive that stuff can be. I guess the chinese just need to oulast all the malcos of the world then they will crank up the prices. Cheers

[@jackof1]

If you make $50 an hour using a tool, you shouldn’t have a problem paying $50 for that tool. Take a little pride in your work and in your country, and make the investment. Or you can shuffle in with your Bremens and do a “decent” job

[@ScoutCrafter]

Professionals have different requirements for their tools so they will pay more. However when Peterson made these originally they were marketed for the masses and therefore had a much more successful run. 🤔

[@terrysmith4465]

It's called American greed I will not pay that much money for a tool when I can buy one for a 3rd of the money.

[@jackof1]

@@terrysmith4465 If Malco was making a killing off those pliers they wouldn’t have shut down production

[@paulsworkshop4179]

So hard to compete with cheap brands.

[@allenriddle9080]

It's sad, but you get what you pay for. I'd rather spend extra money knowing I'll have it for life, maybe my kids life. Its very hard to find an all american made product, so the next best buy german. They take pride in their products.