Why Dr Strange Is the REAL VILLAIN of the Multiverse Saga

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[@JohnnyWednesday]

The way you advertise makes me not watch. It's sickening.

[@chadkeene7894]

Universe 838, nerd.

[@luquepierce]

Hi Ryan

[@DisfattBedge]

Who is 818 Strange? 😭

[@teamfuego7900]

But didn't kang also cause incursions during the multiversal war?

[@azneph611]

Can't we agree that Benedict Cumberbatch has done a great job as Doctor Strange?

[@chasehedges6775]

Amazing actor. Same with Tom Hiddleston as Loki

[@Chudsic]

That shot of him with his hands up on the window in grief from the first movie reminded me how well shot and made that movie was, he is excellent

[@JKilla909]

just as good a casting as RDJ for Iron Man

[@kiezersosay49]

Yes... but the bill comes due...

[@sonalchd]

100%

[@Scapeghost]

How is Strange going to fill Tony’s role as Peter’s mentor if he doesn’t consistently set a bad example for him?

[@rylymbona]

😂

[@SheffKhalid]

Peter don’t need a mentor he needs help to reestablish connection with ppl he lost 😂

[@ionryful]

The difference is that Tony learns from his mistakes!

[@Scapeghost]

@@ionryful I appreciate that Tony was going to learn from his mistakes if it killed him.

[@icy_fire4080]

Tony wasn't really that good of a mentor eighter

[@prOGamer-ul5zc]

Doug is amazing. Has anyone ever noticed how well-behaved he is to sit through all these videos?

[@Carlitobrigante_dd410]

Goodest pup ever. Favorite comment..

[@chines7]

That's because Ryan glues him to the desk.

[@matheusc2312]

He’s CGI 😭

[@stevenryan4024]

I believe Ryan blows Doug a shot gun of that sticky icky to have him behave so obediently. No judgement here... just saying🤫

[@critter5248]

​@@stevenryan4024what

[@q2k100]

One little caveat, Strange didn't even know what an Incursion was until after that meeting with Wanda. The incident with Spider-Man he didn't know was an Incursion. Nor did he think it would turn into that because he wasn't aware of the multiverse being let loose thanks to Sylvie.

[@a1997]

That's the point, he's so arrogant in his abilities that he doesn’t care about the unknown consequences even tho the Ancient One and other sorcerers have warned him to not walk into situations he's unaware of. Which is why even if he knew the consequences beforehand he'd still think that he's capable enough to fix it without taking any damage to his surroundings and himself.

[@brianwhite6600]

Yeah, I think our man’s a little off base in a few of these points. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@osuspebrg]

@@a1997💯if you are supposed to be a master of the magic arts, and Earth’s defender against supernatural threats, it is kind of your wheelhouse to consider possible supernatural consequences

[@NikitaIgnatyev-vo5vh]

I'm actually uncertain if his spell could force himself to forget about who Spider-Man is, and his actions with him as well

[@Unknown_-bt8uv]

@a1997 Sylvie is worse she was emotional in the season one finale and she isn't taking any accountability or being held accountable lol why was Loki apologetic when he approached her at McDonald's? She was the one who didn't even want to take a moment to think about what HWR was saying all because she wanted her revenge and now she just wants to work at a McDonald's lol it kinda irks me and is making me not like her and I loved her character last year.

[@matt_rector_media]

I’ve thought Dr Strange has been set up for an evil arc since he grew the third eye. He really isn’t much different than his other variants, but they’ve tried to trick us into thinking he’s “the good one”. I think he’s going to attempt something to stop Kang’s multiversal war. But it will end up doing more harm than good, and lead him to oppose the rest of the new avenger team. He’s a tragic character doomed to let his ego and motivations blind him to the truth.

[@Scotty2Hotty4]

I like your idea however it’s too late I believe that’s somewhat has occurred.

[@shampoovta]

Notice how plastic Strange looks at the beginning with Spiderman. Now think, an outer planer gate was open filling the place with ice. In D&D bad things can come through a gate like Demons. Feels more like Fantasy Island | Roarke vs The Devil. He is tempting Peter and he helps in Wanda's downfall. I think this time it is Mephisto. Think about it, if Dr. Doom shows up the real bad guy is Mephisto. He is an arch demon that needs a constant supply of willing fresh soles. He would not have been a fan of Thanos. They love this misdirection shit. I bet if Mephisto shows up every where he is will be covered in ice. PS: This is how it played out in the KISS comic. 😆

[@ZeeB...]

I feel this way about Tony Stark and Reed Richards.

[@NihilVacant]

They already did this concept in the 'What If', where Strange Supreme was the villain. 'What if' is supposed to be an alternative timeline (alternative to the main MCU timeline). So to be honest, Strange changing into an evil self (again) will be quite an unoriginal idea. Also, If Strange will be bad in the main MCU timeline, then the 'What If'' villain Strange is no longer an ''alternative'' idea.

[@Scotty2Hotty4]

@@NihilVacantI hear you. As we see there are plenty of different Dr. Strange

[@griffgames9538]

Loved Strange's arc in What If? Great that BC did the voice over too.

[@joelhenry5489]

You are putting so much more thought and connectivity into this than the actual studio and filmmakers did.

[@avilaomar10]

Bro that’s literally what this whole channel is about

[@markeastlack4180]

That's not true at all, they clearly been setting it up since 2016. You MCU tourists just aren't used to how comic books work. I called it when y'all were pretending the first decade of MCU was the best thing ever when all the films were cookie cut action comedies, the few food movies at least. We comic book fans knew your fragile little minds wouldn't be able to handle real comic book stories. Post Endgame is way more connected thru story than first decade was. What's missing and what they have started to correct with The Marvels is the characters crossing over so they can establish relationships and at least knowledge of each other. Like with comic books you won't actually see how it all ties together until The Avengers movies(the live action version of Marvel comics big Events) it's how comics work to make us buy titles we otherwise have 0 interest in. So why wouldn't it be the same way for the live action version. You don't need to watch every movie, TV show or Special Presentation but just like with Star Wars it's much richer and deeper if you do. Expecting every piece of content to be targeted right at you is straight white male level of entitlement

[@markeastlack4180]

Pretending the MCU ever had great writing is hilarious

[@damianwozniak3798]

Let me thin Thanos killed half of a universe what he do ? decres half of paradox in time then HWR slash Kang can create hes sacred time line bcs all universe was halfed less paradoxes or how it was called "variants" occure🤣 and then Loki take the lead. 😂 Thanos >HWR/Kang>Loki 🤣 MCU is so simple for me almost boring. 😆Hmm did Thaons start Infinite war / Kang wars by his actions ? 🤣Avengers defeat Thanos 1 fo 16(or 14 mln trys cant ramamber now) milions trys /universes / infinity 🤣 or how dr Strange count it 🤣 Then Kang wars is Thanos fault.

[@DanielCalifornia]

Michael Waldron and Sam Raimi not watching Wandavision is the biggest misstep if you ask me

[@境零度]

U got a point, yet remember... MOM could have been better since Fege order Raimi to edit the movie extensively to... uhh idk fit an agenda or please idiotic suits and 'flex on dem fans': we did not got the better cut of the movie thanks to rich apes behind the release

[@jahimuddin2306]

@@境零度, They had to edit it because they felt it was “too long”.

[@shuttittuppitt9355]

I personally _refuse_ to watch it, or to even acknowledge it's _existence._ It's an even steamier pile of [bleep] than the multiverse itself is.

[@SpyJamz]

Honestly, this show's Dr. Strange never really learns his lesson that causes a lot of the mystic problems we see currently BUT we also see how the writers of these films are not on the same page. Wanda at the end of WandaVision and Wanda from Dr. Strange 2 are so jarringly different that there's no way the creative team on both productions were on the same page. Hopefully MCU reboots after Secret Wars and has a more cohesive vision. It feels like after Far From Home, Fiege didn't want to let go of MCU's popularity and just threw stuff at the wall until they knew where to go with the multiverse saga.

[@Richardiba]

The change in her personality was probably corruption from using the Darkhold. Ideally, she was not meant to be the original villain of Multiverse of Madness (that was meant to be Nightmare), and that's why the shift in tone was so jarring. She'll probably be brought back, but it's going to be hard to redeem her seeing as she's killed so many people.

[@damianwozniak3798]

Let me thin Thanos killed half of a universe what he do ? decres half of paradox in time then HWR slash Kang can create hes sacred time line bcs all universe was halfed less paradoxes or how it was called "variants" occure🤣 and then Loki take the lead. 😂 Thanos >HWR/Kang>Loki 🤣 MCU is so simple for me almost boring. 😆Hmm did Thaons start Infinite war / Kang wars by his actions ? 🤣Avengers defeat Thanos 1 fo 16(or 14 mln trys cant ramamber now) milions trys /universes / infinity 🤣 or how dr Strange count it 🤣 Then Kang wars is Thanos fault.

[@Travesty-qy4hv]

Olsen's voice - she's naturally nasal as is Wanda - is different in MOM much richer, her bearing and the way she presents and carries herself is different as the Scarlet Witch. . . . so much so that she certainly seems a completely different character than the Wanda portrayed in Wandavision and the Avengers.

[@pallen2645]

On Strange telling Wanda about what happened in NWH, keep in mind it's still super unclear what he does and doesn't remember about that whole situation. Presumably he remembers none of the "Peter Parker" side of things, only what he did for Spider-Man. Which would mean the whole personal angle wouldn't be something he can talk about.

[@chasehedges6775]

The real villains are the bad writers.

[@chasehedges6775]

@mattmazar1320👎👎👎. Writing was garbage, characters were goofy and silly and the plot made 0 sense

[@_TheViewer_]

It’s true, and then they ask for more and strike 😂

[@_TheViewer_]

@@chasehedges6775top comment is good, the other comment is awful 😂

[@glenwaldrop8166]

​@mattmazar1320dude, they had reshoots for half of the movie. I liked it but that doesn't mean it was without problems.

[@_TheViewer_]

@@glenwaldrop8166who said reshoots is always a bad thing ? Sometimes it’s to clean mistakes or restructure, sometimes it’s something they want to include after everything was shot. So what.

[@scottpierson4627]

What’s awesome about this is that Strange and Tony are the same personality type. The difference is (so far) Tony ultimately realizes it and sacrifices to fix everything. Even sees the future (hope they explore this sometime).

[@WonkelDee]

I don’t think they have the same personality at all

[@manniking233]

They are the same. One is an ENTP if they had all the money to explore their crazy ideas and the other is an ENTP if they had all the magic to explore their crazy ideas.

[@NihilVacant]

@@manniking233 Tony was ENTP, that's true, but Strange is definitely not ENTP, he is a typical INTJ. His Ni and Te is visible.

[@ronaldpinson2236]

With the way the MCU has been shaped since the pandemic, there a multitude of holes, plot holes, and a whole lot of problems in the MCU. Hopefully, the strikes gives Disney/Marvel an opportunity to be more cohesive.

[@BoxCatKeys]

Sometimes I think marvel should hire KZbin channels as a creative think tank prior to making these movies. I enjoy most of them, but the additional logic and sensibility would make them all the more enjoyable 🤔

[@stevenbieler]

Remember how Mordo talked about creating branches in time and how that’s a bad thing? Sounds familiar.

[@capybara2671]

Wouldn't it have been Wong's job to talk to Wanda as he's the Sorcerer Supreme at that time?

[@felixfeliciano7011]

Technically it would have been Wong's job to assign Steven to go to Wanda. When you are the boss, you don't do everything yourself, and Wong clearly didn't know about Wanda while Steven did. So it is hard to put it on Wong when he lacks the information that Steven had. Yes that makes Wong incompetent, but he didn't become Sorcerer Supreme because of competence but because of a technicality. Can't blame the person for a bad system. Meanwhile Steven had both the ability and knowledge to do something but chose not to.

[@rogerioangelinjr]

Since the release of MoM i've been saying that if the plot was about Wanda finding out that Strange had the chance to defeat Thanos without giving him the time stone but that this way Christine would've died and so he chose to let Thanos "win" which caused Vision's death it would make SO much more sense and make the movie way better

[@CorderoStephens]

Damn that’s pretty good!

[@YBTekno]

Yea that's really good ... I just commented the same ideology with Infinity War and what if Dr Strange had another solution that would've worked, maybe 3 solutions but he died instead or Tony? He can't fix everything if he's dead .. even if the other solutions are worse, people love iron man so much that they will blame strange for his death, even if it was the right decision

[@nailinthefashion]

That completely undermines the scene where he says there's only 1 way to Tony and his subsequent sacrifice though

[@rogerioangelinjr]

@@nailinthefashion exactly, he would be the villain os phase 5, not only because of the deaths but the aftermath of the blip that had everyone's lives f-d up like its shown in the beginning of the movie with people talking to him and saying that they're not happy (including him) and also in shows like falcon and the winter soldier

[@nailinthefashion]

@@rogerioangelinjr I'm so thankful y'all are just consumers and not writers lol you don't even realize how convoluted yet cliché what you described is

[@brianwhite6600]

America only took on Wanda when Zombie Strange gave her the confidence to do so. How can you suggest the dream walk was needless??

[@25beee]

After watching What If and your video, I think in the end Strange would be the one who pay the highest for defeating Kang, so far we know someone must take the burden to stabilise the timeline so maybe Strange would be the one who take that burden. Also your video make a highlight about the communication among Avenger is very vital, because they’re just walking their own way without thinking there’s other beside them

[@sadowolf]

I'm sure Ryan George would agree that the pitch for Multiverse of Madness should have included: Studio Head: Why didn't Strange just find Wanda and tell her about incursions and how her causing them could actually harm her children? Producer Guy: So that the movie can happen! Studio Head: But don't you think a lot of problems could've been avoided if Wanda knew the consequences of her actions potentially make the actions themselves pointless? Producer Guy: Yeah I'm gonna need you to get AAALLL the off my back about Strange keeping valuable information away from Wanda for no good reason. Studio Head: Oh okay lemme get off that thing!

[@xflasch8344]

That would’ve been super easy barely an inconvenience

[@OmegaRed813]

Strange is basically facing iron man’s fate

[@jagnestormskull3178]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, that Doctor Strange is the occult mirror of Tony Stark, visionaries who want to save their worlds, but whose pro-active approaches and extreme egos tend to cause more harm than good. MoM Strange seems to let go of the need to "hold the knife," but we'll see how long that lasts.

[@PaulieLauraXombie1331]

You honesty deserve your success! Been watching and following for years and Im always so stoked when a new episode drops. Thank you and your team for such epic content and phenomenal theories! I too believe he is still "The greatest danger to the multiverse" as Reed so eloquently puts it, He leaves the largest footprints more so than Kang.. He caused multiple incursions. Kang didn't directly. That was Sylvies doing, So to me Her, Strange and possibly Clea (powers similar to America) are the cause of everything wrong in the multiverse.

[@boxonothing4087]

Everything wrong in the multiverse is due to the multiverse, it's by design a fragile structure that will ultimately collapse under it's own weight and contradictions.

[@PaulieLauraXombie1331]

@@boxonothing4087 wich we're seeing being played out right now in Loki and it's even more engaging and opening up more theories! As of last episode I truly think we did a reverse big bang, every particle in the universe collapsed in on itself into a singular quark. Wich than again emerges with exponential cosmic growth (Big Bang 2.0) that will lead back to another version of our TVA.

[@damianwozniak3798]

Let me thin Thanos killed half of a universe what he do ? decres half of paradox in time then HWR slash Kang can create hes sacred time line bcs all universe was halfed less paradoxes or how it was called "variants" occure🤣 and then Loki take the lead. 😂 Thanos >HWR/Kang>Loki 🤣 MCU is so simple for me almost boring. 😆Hmm did Thaons start Infinite war / Kang wars by his actions ? 🤣Avengers defeat Thanos 1 fo 16(or 14 mln trys cant ramamber now) milions trys /universes / infinity 🤣 or how dr Strange count it 🤣 Then Kang wars is Thanos fault.

[@baneshady]

The commercials in WandaVision were originally written to be Dr Strange trying to communicate to Wanda. Kevin Feige cut that because he didn't want "another white man swooping in to save the day"

[@SolaceWhore]

Did he actually say this, or is the political brain rot taken you over?

[@shaikahmed2586]

When they announced that the "Evil Strange" from "What if" is in the multiverse of madness...I was so excited! Then when No way home came around...Doctor strange...kind of felt off. I had a theory that this wasn't our strange but some evil strange has took over him because of all the people out there strange know the real consequences of performing magic spells. So I thought in the Multiverse of madness they are going to reveal that this was evil strange all along with his plan to "BREAK THE MULTIVERSE" so he casted the memory spell...But it wasn't the case...

[@colleenbooth2648]

Something like that would have been better writing. Clearly the MOM writers never watched other MCU content though, like What if or WandaVision, so they couldn't have made smooth connections or transitions between these other properties.

[@shaikahmed2586]

@@colleenbooth2648 yeah mate

[@NihilVacant]

Where did they said that Strange Supreme was in the Mom? Because I have read something different, Sinister Strange and Strange Supreme are different characters. Same with the Doctor Strange who was in the team with the Illuminati, because he was from the Earth-838. Strange Supreme is the same Doctor Strange as ''our'' Strange from Earth -199999, it's just different, alternative version, but the same universe. Every other Strange from the MoM is from different universe. I really doubt that the main Strange will be evil, because they did it already in ''What if'' and it was alternative version of him. The problem with his character in MoM was unfortunately only a bad writing.

[@shaikahmed2586]

@@NihilVacant yeah mate, but there was a lot of speculation that the characters from "what if" are going to make an appearance in the film and that was the case, we have Agent carter in the film and many people were speculating that the evil supreme strange is in this movie too...and when the trailers came..there was evil strange but he wasn't the supreme strange...that was a bummer...missed opp maybe....oh and there was speculation that tobey maguire was in the movie. MOM was so hyped but it wasn't that great..

[@redpanda9367]

The fact that Peter didn’t shut the hell up immediately when he started to see Strange struggle while casting a spell that effects the minds of every person on Earth minus a handful makes me just want to slap him silly…

[@mistaree8394]

Interesting. Personally, a very concerning flaw I see with Strange (beyond the biggest that different writers keep having Strange regress to a narcassistic, reckless, intentionally oblivious despot who retains the power he gained in his movie but not the character growth) is his over reliance on his magic. Strange uses magic too much. Presumedly all magic has some sort of cost and that is a fundamental aspect known to all students. However, Strange seems to use it for every tiny little thing. Why walk across the street when you can teleport? Why build a sandwich when one can just appear? Why have a respectful relationship built on mutual trust and experiences when you can have someone submit to your magic instantly? This is like using a chainsaw to peel a banana. The idea of magic as a metaphor for addiction or corruption has been used before, has the idea of magic as a metaphor for money? Tony Stark was a literal billionaire whose biggest flaws included being overindulged and he only reached his greatest heroic nature when he took on a more simple life. Strange is a mystical billionaire.

[@ClockworkGearhead]

It's less that the cost of magic is great and more that it can add up before you notice. The rule is in place to stop the less skilled from making mistakes. It's still a risk, but he's just better.

[@mostlyimpulsive3462]

Oh, if the over-reliance on magic without consequence bother you, you'd LOVE the 2015-2017 Doctor Strange comic run. Particularly the arcs The Last Days of Magic, Blood in the Aether, and State of Misery. I loved that in this iteration of the character, his overexposure to magic and interdimensional shenanigans has rendered him unable to derive nourishment from regular human food anymore lmao.

[@markeastlack4180]

It's not regression, it's standard Dr Strange, he really never learns his lesson. Much like my main man Batman he continually tries to solve Crisis level Events on his own and always makes it worse. This Dr Strange will obviously learn his lesson and let go of his ego by the end. That's the one thing about the movies that gives them an advantage, the comics must come out every month forever so almost no ending are definitive which means the characters don't really grow much, even when they like Spiderman growing up and having his own company the fans(except for me) got so angry that Marvel actually had to take Peters company away, though it was inevitable (decent people as fortune 500 CEOs isn't sustainable), and send him back to college. Spider-Man been in highschool and college for 60 years. The movies actually get to give the characters endings, so Strange will grow and overcome his arrogance once he is finally made to realize how wrong he is. Unfortunately for our heroes it takes a complete multiverse collapse

[@markeastlack4180]

The 3rd isn't evil on its own, it's just sign of a power upgrade. It's The Eye of the same dude who made the amulet he wears around his neck. 3rd Eye just means he is infinitely more powerful than he had been prior to the events of MOM

[@markeastlack4180]

Corruption of magic is a metaphor for the corruption of money. It's all power all power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, so yes it has been used many times. Nothing is original and most don't like it when anyone tries something "new" in mainstream entertainment which unfortunately Marvel and DC have become

[@superheropow1]

Yes, bad on Dr. Strange not checking on Wanda- but what about Wong? He's the Sorcerer Supreme!?

[@soyelmudo]

The real villain was strange's hairdo at the beggining of MoM

[@srka42]

Strange trying to contact Wanda through the commercials in Wandavision would’ve helped make Strange a more helpful figure at first.

[@bigleeneth]

Wanda as the Scarlet Witch is a nexus being. This version of Wanda is a unique being that can travel the multiverse freely, and presumably, without causing incursions.

[@Knauchs]

Speaking of Variants, Sacred Timelines, etc. Dormammu is a variant of Doctor Strange.

[@ronaldpinson2236]

“Temporal manipulations can create branches in time…” The seeds were planted long before we knew it…

[@LordSaull]

They didn’t plan shii, they just run with it as they build

[@chasehedges6775]

@@LordSaull Exactly.

[@Natta44]

Cumberbatch actually said in an interview once he was a little frustrated with Strange's story arc becayse he affectively showed so much growth by the end of Dr Strange, for it all to kind of regress in Infinity war and No way home. In terms of his personality, he became more humble and accepted his faults for him to just act the same going forward. So hea actually not had any real growth yet, even by his 2nd movie he still.seems arrogant. If he becomes a villain, great, but weve seen that already in what if and his variant in Dr Strange 2. I feel the writers have written themselves into a corner and Dr Strange 3, I don't have much hope for! They also dropped the Mordo storyline.

[@chines7]

Dude, that's why i've been saying all along, Hydra was right. They would have killed him off long before he made such a mess.

[@brandonspencer5594]

And without him the snap wouldn’t have been reversed

[@rylymbona]

Well, I don't think he should've been killed by Hydra especially cause he helped saved the world. But I must say, rewatching all of the MCU made me dislike Dr. Strange... especially with the whole Spiderman situation.

[@chines7]

@@rylymbona I know. It’s so harsh to say who should die but but they saw him as a problem and he was a problem. As for everybody else on their list … maybe they were going to far and should have been stopped. But damn, fewer people would have died in that scenario. 😂😂

[@chines7]

@@brandonspencer5594 without him the first snap may have never happened.

[@brandonspencer5594]

@@chines7 in all visions,they end with thanos winning.sorry I’m trusting the spiritual wizard and not the metal armored billionaire with emotions issues who can’t bring his team back together

[@paulmccool378]

Ultimately, the issue with the Multiverse Saga has been the way the production/release schedule for the films got scrambled due to the pandemic, all while Disney was trying to force more D+ content out of Marvel.

[@ScreenCrush]

Is Everything Dr. Strange's fault?

[@Last-Scar-5675]

Not everything

[@Last-Scar-5675]

Peter is mostly to blame

[@XinGraves13]

Yes. Also, Hi Ryan!!

[@chasehedges6775]

ITS ALL OBI WANS FAULT

[@adelekeabraham8179]

Hi Ryan, I think Kang should be as intimating and gruesome as the Scarlet witch in M.O.M. But yes, Stephen is a problem as weell.

[@josuefbonilla1197]

I still have faith in our Strange I don't think he'll become the main problem I see your key points and everything but just like Charles said" just because someone stumbles and loses their way doesn't mean they're lost forever". I think you've missed that.

[@mcgreeniepants]

Hope that's as true for Wanda as it is for Strange. The fans are definitely more forgiving towards him

[@NihilVacant]

​@@mcgreeniepants people are more forgiving of Strange because his mistakes are not on the same level as the things that Wanda did. What Wanda did is worse morally. He made mistakes when he wanted to do something good. Wanda enslaved the whole city of people and killed people with no remorse. Wanda is more comparable to the Strange Supreme from ''What If'', who like Wanda, did everything (and destroyed his universe) for the person he loved. But it was purely egoistical. The difference is that Wanda came to her senses in the end. I

[@pandoraeeris7860]

Strange is a loose cannon, not a villain. He's also destined to become the Sorcerer Supreme.

[@havocpyro9166]

At 1:58 Wong wasn’t the one that got The Ancient One to come around it was Mordo

[@MarkLumsley]

Doctor Strange is such a deep and complex character, it's one of the best works of comic book history. ^_^

[@thatomanaka323]

true

[@orestespena3262]

Deadpool points gun at 🥜

[@higgdynamics]

The scene in the first movie when he messes with the time stone is my favorite Marvel scene ever.

[@TheQuincyEdwards]

With this train of thought, then the villain behind the villain Dr Strange would be the old Sorcerer Supreme (The Ancient One) who allowed him to have the Time Stone, twice.

[@quinnsnextstep]

With Loki Season 2 out, If Reed Richards was right about Dr. Strange being the biggest threat, does that mean he goes into the trimming timelines business, or creating more incursions, causing more Kangs to arise, just as Loki/Sylvie's actions allowed for more Kangs to arise, now that He Who Remains is dead? Is Victor Timely the same person, years younger as either the Conqueror or HWR, or the only one HWR wanted (or Ms Minutes from what I'm thinking) out of the Council of Kangs to take his place? Furthermore, is the 'sacred timeline' actually sacred? Or is this a MCU reboot strategy?

[@vinee616]

He saw future and He saw time heist, He saw Loki taken by TVA and he knew about Kang.

[@iamtheJEST]

The real villains were the friends we made along the way

[@chasehedges6775]

💯

[@godson200]

Hahaa i don't have no friends so I am anyways escaped the matrix.

[@sheriffkimbo]

These videos are so much more fun than, "This is why this is rubbish" that seem to be more common on here now. Really enjoyed that.

[@buxzw1945]

What if Third Eye Strange is "our" Strange, and his story is also a loop tying into Loki. I don't think they would do it, but maybe.

[@jand.4737]

12:00 tbf, Wong is the new Sorcerer Supreme and thus it would habe been his Job to investigate Wanda.

[@peterbui3733]

I see this in MCU as well when they talk about the destruction of the entire universe and they say it's a death of Billions instead of Trillions. I think the latter has only been used a handful of times.

[@em.pee.a3704]

idk if this is being read but when your showing clips of dr strang movies the video becomes so dark, then i increased my screen brightness, then the video focuses om ryan again and it becomes super bright....some minor issue but just droppin

[@ethankulp4430]

Not gonna lie, MoM totally grew on me, I didn’t like it when I initially saw it in theaters but I rewatched it recently over a year later and I actually gotta say it’s fairly good. I think I was dissappointed originally bc they totally marketed the movie to look like something it didn’t even end up being

[@Chimera723]

I also liked it better when I watched for second time.

[@Lodrik18]

I too think that the big problem are the writers. Strange clearly grew as a person in his first movie but later stories ignore this...

[@enderprodigy3167]

I don't believe America would have found her self-worth without the errors of each Strange that came before her confrontation with Wanda. cause and effect and what if scenarios. sure many causal situations can create the same outcome however America is 1 in a multiverse. that changes things. And since we're casting blame on characters why don't we blame Tony and Pym for the creation of time travel and the rebirth of the multiverse. Strange has his part here too but ultimately he changed probability to make this outcome happen. Strange Tony and Pym together created a timeloop paradox. the infinity war is truly infinite. Thanos is tampering with probable outcomes as a side effect of the timeheist. Thanos knows his destiny and always sees it to fruition by knowing future events. This is also why he atomized the stones to force the timeheist to happen.

[@aretnap3653]

2:29... More-Door?!? Totally Different *REALM,* RyanArey.😜

[@gabrielmurray929]

A few things first America wouldn't have been able to get control over her powers if Strange didn't tell her how she really did have control and gave her the inspiration, second there is no indication that Strange knew what incursions were before Reed Richards told him, three minor timeline error but Multiverse of Madness apparently takes place before Hawkeye in the overall timeline which places it as actually November of 2024 after NWH since the official Disney+ timeline places it before. One more point is that I thought the Star-Lord hits Thanos moment was Sylvie killing HWR but who knows.

[@GAMEBYTHEPOUND]

This makes perfect sense👌🏾you would think a Disney media rep would see this video, talk to Kevin, give you guys a writing credit and bring this to life

[@BaudixLp]

616 Strange has clearly proven that he was different from his known variants. He is inquisitive and a bit reckless but he definitely is not as greedy to power, overly self confident and does give away control over a situation if necessary. Plus, you said that Peter is just 17 years old and does know nothing about the multiverse but so do everyone else. Strange even said that they barely know anything in this matter.

[@AllAndMore849]

‘So this looks like a job for me’ should’ve played, ‘cause we need a little controversy’ 🤣

[@Marshkoon]

The thing is no one is worse than Kang he’s destroyed MANY universes and timelines that could make universes from the start to the end of time. No one scales to this

[@keithb3498]

I always love your videos, but it never fails to crack me up when you say “Karmar-Taj” instead of “Kamar-Taj.” I noticed you doing it in this video and thought to myself “he likes to add an extra R.“ Then you called Mordo “Mordor” and I burst out laughing

[@Fhrek42]

Tony Stark and Stephen Strange both are prone to create the issues they have to deal with.

[@GDSprodify]

Finally give Benedict something to do. Why hire an A Class Talent and give him nothing for almost a decade.

[@anthonyxavier3356]

"Doctor Strange is the real villian" "Kang is the real villain" "Miss Minutes is the real Villain" Rest! this is all to get KZbin views

[@necromancer0616]

I agree with Briana McLarty, she brought up some pretty good points I had never even put together. However We still haven't seen the result of the next Dr. Strange and/or the next Sorcerer Supriem Dr. VooDoo and everything they have to do to fix the incursions.

[@MH-sl4ed]

Hey Ryan, I love your videos and theories, but I never heard anyone talk about the possibility that the dark spirit from the Dark Hold took over Wanda's body. I think it would make a lot of sense because she acts not as she used to before she got the Dark Hold and dream walking would cause the chaos needed for an evil sorcerer to regain his strength and take over the multiverse.

[@lordsams]

Also every variant of his love say you always the one hold the knife

[@barna_de]

I don't think Strange caused any incursion in Spiderman: NWH. It was more like a collision of realities.

[@binhanh296]

Wait a sec, remember the event at the end of No Way Home? Everyone's memory of Peter Parker and the event was wiped out, so that would mean that Strange did not have the memory about what happened, so he wouldn't be able to talk to Wanda about that, because he didn't know. Got to defence 1 case for Strange here 😁😁😁

[@sillygoober553]

Kevin Feige is the Real Villain of the MCU

[@chasehedges6775]

300%

[@omaurioncouncil564]

Omg that is so funny u really did something with that comment grow up kid 😂😂😂

[@omaurioncouncil564]

@thebro8390 Do you know what that means 😂😂 the joke is just not funny u the only one meat riding let the little kid fight his own battles

[@Zooted504]

If he was we wouldn’t have a MCU

[@Beigemage0621]

Spoken like a true noob.

[@Hamilton_Gilpin]

There's no way the new thanos was taken out by ants lol

[@Native2Earth]

I’m pretty sure Antman sent kang to the place where aliath is and he goes to the citadel to bury the old kang that sat in the throne before him

[@Firstgaming9]

This theory of yours is pretty much debunked during the new Loki episode 3 season 2.

[@Native2Earth]

@@Firstgaming9 no it was not debunked yet, just because rinslayer and miss minutes is there means nothing. Kang could reprogram miss minutes and wipe rinslayer mind and send her back to the tva when he enters the room on the last episode of the season.

[@katesullivan4707]

Well, yeah, it also helps to explain that you don't feel like cheering after a Dr. Strange story. Its kind of heh. I suspect What If was a warning. I could actually see him actually working with Kang. Not in the fearful way Loki is, but actively working to help him, only to finally be truly betrayed by his own choices, especially if faced with a smarter more arrogant guy (Doom) and probably any of the witches from Agatha's show are more useful.

[@JROtoons]

I think 'Ant-man' Kang is similar to "pony-tail" Strange, he has the same motivations as every kang, but his weak execution becomes his downfall. He who remains is similar to '616' Strange because he'll stop at nothing, break rules and sacrifice entire universes to get what he wants. The others are just canon fodder to fill the multiverse. The "Thanos" level Kang we haven't even seen yet. But I suspect he'll be popping in at some point in Loki S2. We will learn to fear Kang soon, but hey... that' just my theory. A JRO theory (sorry)

[@cthomas025]

You said that Clea takes Strange, "Somewhere that looks cosmic." But I'd argue that it looks to be the Dark Dimension. Not that it isn't cosmic, but it doesn't seem to be very vague in the setting.

[@Akura359]

Ya know Strange said all the wrong things to Wanda 😅 I was surprised that she didn’t kill him

[@anthonyh386]

Check out the leaves on the tree at 11:05. Christine's wedding was in the fall.

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

Actually, Ryan, Doctor Strange was supposed to be in the finale episode of WandaVision but Kevin Feige omitted the idea since he wanted to avoid the "White guy savior" trope from that story. Plus, if Stephen was in WandaVision then the conflict in Multiverse Of Madness would've had made any sense since Scott Derrickson already left the project. And if anyone could've stopped Wanda from going down a dark path, it would've been White Vison.

[@ThomKozik]

Well done! One of the best ScreenCrush episodes ever.

[@Novua]

Wanda isn't dead she saved herself ( red flash after the temple is destroyed ) ( no body no death ) 👇

[@bubkusjones]

That will entirely depend on whether Elizabeth Olsen wants to come back. She has been, at best, non committal.

[@b.s_singh00]

I want more videos like these , these videos are the best when it comes to start my day ❤

[@eugeniopastrana4371]

Loved this analysis, it’s funny that some of this is not intentional and some comes from poor writing

[@miikatenkula6356]

Dude I'm still at 1:23 and I felt the need to mention; you don't have to make the whole video an ad to make a sponsored video.

[@markmatson]

Reminder that Strange saw all the futures in Infinity War, so he KNEW Peter would do what he did, but choose not to stop it. For better or worse, that’s on Strange as well. Makes me wonder if that time line stopped Thanos but ended with Strange’s own death, so didn’t count as a win.

[@themeanhornet1070]

If Sam didn’t steal books too, “we all be slabs of meat in the Night King’s Army” (Snow, 300 AA). So hooray for the book rule breakers.

[@TheBlackSaint]

11:06 Yes, it did seem weird that Strange never engaged with Wanda after the events of WANDAVISION. I know it was originally planned for Strange to be sending the "commercials" to Wanda, but that didn't make it into the final cut. If Agatha could sense such powerful magic, why couldn't Strange or Wong? He also calls Wanda a "powerful magic user" but I don't think anyone -- including Wanda herself -- believed she was using magic until the events of WANDAVISION.

[@chrstphrxmllr]

This would make a lot of sense. They’ve spent so much time foreshadowing how he is going to end up destroying the universe. And he’s almost done it multiple times already in multiple movies. All the movies he has been in involve him messing with something he shouldn’t be. First movie was the book he wasn’t supposed to read, second movie he caused an incursion, no way home almost caused an incursion of sorts. I am sure there are more examples especially all his variants. His variants are all reckless in some way. Like I can see a Strange Council come around. What if Kang isn’t the villain he’s actually protecting the multiverse from strange. Yeah he’s gotta stop the Kang War, but that’s obviously not the only thing Kang has to worry about. He makes a perfect time line meaning he would have to worry about the strange after. So Kang destroys the world.

[@musicvixen78]

What about Wongs part in this? Wong is the current Sorcerer Supreme. So yes, Strange should have reached out and connected with Wanda after everything but it seems Steven didn't really think of anyone outside of his selfish egotistical self until he met America. He probably didn't see his part in Vision death, also...."It was the only way", he saw all the possibilities that the one that happened was meant to happen, his justification that he did everything right. Where as Wong (who I am not blaming for things) was Sorcerer Supreme for 5 years before they all came back. We never see him in Endgame til the final fight. In Thor Ragnarok Steven mentions he felt the brothers on Earth. Maybe Wong is in over his head. At this point in the MCU things are Neverending magic wise. Steven Strange is very wrong in many ways but I think pretty much every man hero has done something that put them on the path of destruction they are currently on.

[@SWANGA247]

How would strange tell her about Peter’s ordeal if he don’t remember Peter

[@dcoderjr]

I have to challenge the initial premise.... Kang said he needed to save the multiverse from his variants or the multiverse would be destroyed... Seems like Kang would be responsible for more incursions or destructions of timelines/universes

[@CCEkeke]

Actually it was Kevin Feige's fault that Strange never visited Wanda during WandaVision. His reasoning was literally "we didn't want the white guy coming to save the day." No joke.

[@Rodytohti]

I'm always baffled of how much of a slack Wanda gets from people... She slavened a whole city to live a fantasy with Vision and some imaginary children, and is all ok? I love Wanda as much as everyone else, but she was already pretty villanous in WandaVision... She derailed completely after she started to read the Darkhold, ok, but she was already knocking at that door in her own show.

[@briandaleske5139]

I don’t agree, I don’t think (Doctor Strange) is the real villain. But I have to admit, I have noticed he is a bit reckless, has a stubborn side, has a tiny bit of an ego, and some times he’s a bit prideful.

[@cyfloriana]

I don't think this would work as a way of bringing Kang into the timeline of 616. I think it's gonna be through Loki and the TVA. Plus I think it needs to be done in a way that leads to Secret Wars and the Battleworld.

[@hk8414]

Not sure if this is mentioned already, but is this not also due to him being one of the best surgeons? He has a deep need to fix things, and also the ego to know that he will be able to fix the most difficult problems (like the patient in the first movie that Christine came up with). So he doesn't care about consequences, because he KNOWS he will be able to fix it anyways. And he also maybe subconsiously want to have even bigger problems to fix to satisfy that hunger for fixing problems. It's a reward for him instead of a punishment. In the first movie he was also picking his next patient and pretty carelessly set aside the ones that were not difficult enough for him. Those difficult consequences he causes with his careless actions, actually excites him. Untill something bad happens that he actually cares about, like Christine dying because of him. Or Wong (but we don't want to loose Wong cause he's cool).

[@ultramaximusreviews]

Wanda didn't die. She teleported out

[@christopherwalsh2368]

The villains were the monsters we ate along the way. You could say the real villains were inside us all along 😅

[@catfdljws]

She had the joy of finding it out from Scott Lang's podcasts, the same one that Ms Marvel listened to prior to Scott finally writing the book.

[@OliverThrone]

Dr. Strange still always been my favorite super / anti hero

[@archiephillips800]

I never thought of Doctor Strange as a hero but more as a problem, he says “there is no other way” but he never actually looks for another way