Brake Caliper Slide Pin Rubber Bushing - Top or Bottom ?

[@RamBo-uu9so]

I was having a lot of sticky brake issues. Finally, I discovered the rubber on the end of the slide pin had expanded. It was causing all the negative issues. So I just cut the off. No more issues!

[@mervinbailie7972]

Yes, that rubber swells, causes your brakes to bind, removed it, the caliper does move a bit side to side, but no hassles

[@cocodog85]

that rubber bushing causes more trouble than it's worth. i cut them off before the install. never had clients report rattling issues, but before my cut off policy, lots of complaints of sticking brakes and premature brake wear.

[@davidfrank6666]

@@cocodog85 i too, wondered, what that was for. thanx for the help.

[@groovymoon]

Some brake kits, Powerstop for one, will provide you with new bushings and pin boots. Use them. The bushing is there to help stabilize the caliper body.

[@obxguy1]

Same on my 04 Explorer! Removed it completely and it works fine now!

[@scotsmanofnewengland7713]

When I ordered a new caliper from a local auto parts store the sales person didn’t know what that rubber sleeve was for. Confused I had to stop at a local garage where the mechanic explained where and what their suppose was. Thanks for the video it was well explained and no music in it was even better. Thanks 👍

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

You're welcome, thanks for watching !

[@doctorwu1303]

Informative and correct information without the distracting background music..good job

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thanks for watching !

[@CWK090]

I am not an ASE certified technician but I have been doing brakes for over 50 years. I have known which slide pin the rubber sleeve goes on for years. This video is spot on. There may be exceptions but I have never seen one. I just did rear brakes on an 09 Murano. When I removed the slide pins on one side, the rubber sleeve was on the leading side of the caliper...hmmm...that's weird. When I removed the sliding pins on the other side, the rubber sleeve was also on the leading side. I then realized what the previous mechanic had done. He had installed the LR caliper on the RR and vice versa. On that car, the rear calipers are identical when manufactured and there are two locations they can drill then tap for the bleed screw. When installed on the rotor, the bleed screw should be on the upper location. Another thing that seems to be consistent is location of the squealer clip on the brake pad (low pad warning). It is always on the inner pad and always on the leading side of the caliper. Again, there may be exceptions, but I have never seen one.

[@n9wox]

Very satisfying small 'pop' when the pin fully engages.

[@barrieborchers656]

Thanks for putting my mind at ease and articulating which pin and why. Turns out the previous person who worked on my car got one side wrong. So with your instruction I corrected the issue and my brakes work great!!!

[@luisalbertolanda]

Months ago I was looking for information about this and I imagined something like this. Thanks for this video, today I understand it even more.

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

You're very welcome!

[@buddyboy4x44]

Baffled me for years, now solved. Good job.

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thanks for watching !

[@aofddofa6661]

me too

[@germanjacome]

I Asked this question a different technicians "(certified)" and none of them gave me an answer, they didn't know. Some sayed remove the rubber. But the real problem comes when you use a wrong grease. Thanks for your explanation.

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thanks for watching !

[@lucluc2716]

Extremely useful information, i feel so bad for messing them up so many times before, might not make a huge difference, but im a stickler for fine detail. Thanks boss!

[@TavosMr]

For long time a was confused about the right position of the pin with the rubber sleeve. Very well explained in this video. Thanks 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thanks for watching !

[@markwilliams2830]

Well I have learned something new today.Something to look out for with future maintenance.Thank you

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Cheers Mark ! :)

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Cheers Mark ! :)

[@mikeschaner5853]

Great breakdown here. Excellent information. I would add, with these bushings being ever more difficult to acquire, if ever you need just the bushing, look around your shop/house. Vacuum hose, and some valve cover bolt grommets work great. Also, ac o-rings.

[@CarlConrad-n1x]

Very good video -on point correct w/ everything. The wrong grease on slide pin will swell rubber on pin & mess up boots- swelling them. Also w/ harden & prevent pins from sliding. Other grease can go on back of pads to prevent vibration squealing. Had to do lot of research to finally find best way to do it. Lots of bad info out there. Sil-glyde is very good stuff for pins & outer end- edges of pads.

[@claudiosantana3320]

Mines swole with silicone grease, i just removed the elastomer it was seizing the pin. Works fine, no noise

[@robertwootton2161]

I have done that when they are jamming the pin. No ill effect.

[@trex1011]

I removed the rubber sleeves too when it became hard to slide, don't think the sleeves does anything anyway tbh.

[@pdog2448]

This is great! When I took mine off today to check the pads, the pin with the sleeve was seized in place. It wouldn't go in or out by hand. I rotated and pulled with pliers and it slowly came out. I cleaned it up and re-greased it, but it would only go in half way. Upon inspection, it did seem a bit swollen, so I pulled it off temporary and it slid right in. I'm going to check the other side tomorrow...😏

[@galevest4545]

Get the purple brake grease at your local advanced autoparts ,it's some awesome stuff

[@christophermeyer6414]

Thank you for this video! I always wondered why the difference in the pins and what position they belong in.

[@cjreview7795]

THANK YOU. This has been a pain for so many years for me. My 2004 F250 front disc brakes have the rubber pin and it was so stuck I had to heat up the bracket to get it out. I need to go back and see how I placed them last. My mechanic said to remove the rubber bushing because he has seen many times were the busing pin is seized up and messes up the braking. I'm too scared to do this because I'm pretty sure the bushing is there for a reason.

[@mohdibrahim1350]

Thanks sir. I do remove this piece for all of my cars as it causes lots of trouble

[@Goldenkryptonite999]

You are the first person that I have seen that uses the RIGHT type of grease for the slide pins. 🎉🎉🎉 every other knuckle head uses caliper grease big NO NO!

[@rickconstant6106]

Another point with the lubrication - make sure you grease the groove where the lip of the boot sits, behind the head of the pin. This can help prevent corrosion in this area, which would lead to water penetration.

[@ahmadghosheh3104]

Thank you. I fix brakes a lot as a DIY for friends and family. I don't get virgin brakes, someone been there before and I like to put the pins in the same spot as I found them, but I always wonder, did the last person out them in the correct hole in the first place?

[@TheDervMan]

Love these videos, thanks for putting them together.

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

You're very welcome, thanks for watching !

[@jasperthomas8048]

I can't seem to get the brake pads to wear evenly. Outer pad doesn't wear much and inner pad wears at an angle. I always replace the rubber sleeve, but I think the next time I will just leave the rubber sleeve off. Never had a problem with pads wearing unequal until I encountered the rubber sleeve. Thanks for the explanation.

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thanks for watching !

[@JoelWanyonyi-bv7un]

i needed that alot than i ever knew

[@Rajphatak215]

I grease the rubber bushing on the inside by removing it or prying up on it and slipping some brake grease in the channel. Makes for easy assembly. Never get grease on the tip of pin as it will not go in all the way. This type of pin with internal threads for M14 bolts is ideal as you can slip on the boot and then insert the greased pin. Finally insert the thick end of the rubber boot in the bracket. This ensures all the grease stays in the channel and not in the rubber boot. minor stuff but makes error free servicing.

[@98r860]

logically correct. the rubber boot has tiny channels around the diameter of the rubber and holds back a high percentage of the grease as you insert the pin and the grease ends up accumulating in the bellows. A fraction of a percent ends up on the inside where it's supposed to go. Grease the inside a little by rotating the pin with back and forth movements ensuring no hydro locking of the pin , insert the rubber boot, lightly grease the pin again and then insert the brake pin all the way allowing the rubber boot to lock into place and ensuring that the air pressure in the rubber boot has released.

[@andrewt3952]

Funny, I just sorted mine the other day. New to me vehicle, brake squeal, rubbered pin on top. Strange this came up on my feed

[@ibrahimeltony4865]

You're fantastic 😊 Fantastic explanation that solved an issue for me for years. Thanks is not enough for you🎉

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thanks for watching !

[@User-tc9vt]

never had a problem with any type of grease and never had a problem with whether its at the top or bottom.

[@GunG0d]

In schematics of my Toyota rav4 '07 the rear "trailing pin" is also at lower position as front, not up as you recommend..... Any tips ?

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

As I stated in the video description, there are some exceptions to the rule and if you are in any doubt, check with your own vehicle's manufacturer. You should go by the schematics from your own vehicle.

[@GunG0d]

@@screwsnutsandbolts 10x mate!

[@dan91sgarage]

Same with my Lexus IS200 mk 1. Rear mounted caliper, pin with slider bush fits in lower position (lead pin). The hole in the carrier to accept the bushed pin is also larger than the top hole.

[@larryfine4498]

For those saying the rubber bushing is swollen and to just remove it, why don't you just pry open your wallet and buy a replacement slider kit. Completely clean out any old grease and use appropriate, non petroleum lube as shown here. Do NOT use caliper lubes (eg. the "purple stuff") in slide pins. Those are meant for lubricating external contact points on calipers and pads for noise reduction. If you apply those to your slides, you WILL end up with sticky/frozen slides.

[@Mike_44]

Excellent information. Thank you for posting this.

[@panagdimi]

At the end I noticed after you installed the pins, when you pull them out they snap back in by themselves as if something is pulling them back. Is this how supposed to work? Thanks!

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Yes that's normal

[@Rajphatak215]

Once you install the pins, use a small screwdriver or pick to pull up on the rubber boot. This will release the vacuum and pins will slide in and out freely.

[@2903shan]

@@Rajphatak215absolutely correct.. pin pulling back due to vacuum created inside.. i will using o ring remover hook and create opening at the end of rubber.. then pressure will be equalized… it wont pull inward… only 5th time i manage to found this correct method

[@fredsalter1915]

@@Rajphatak215 This is what southmainauto (Eric O.) does. The boot should be in a more "neutral" position, not sucked in due to vacuum.

[@shadowopsairman1583]

Depends on who makes it, they tend to be a different size in diameter

[@bundysgarage]

The rubber bushing do not matter! Just take them off and leave them off.

[@user-jz1ht8ry2w]

I would really appreciate if you are able to help with the rear caliper handbrake mechanisim. In regards to adjusting and setting the handbrake built in to the caliper. This i cant find anywhere? A real bug bear! Can it be solved?

[@davidb649]

I got confused, cause info at Google says opposite as the rubber (trailing) pin should go to the first contact area, and at the video you selected second contact area for the trailing pin.

[@groovymoon]

Their rotational orientation can be really important as well. Make sure to put then back the same way. Mark wrench flats relative to bracket.

[@nicholas8479]

Does it matter how long the boots are when you are done? As in your video, it seems like a vacuum pulls the pins in and squishes the boots. If the lip of the boots are lifted, the boots relax and lengthen. Is that needed or a good thing to do?

[@HallStevenson]

The correct position is wherever the manufacturer says it goes

[@ToolsSNAPON]

Very simple, Sliding back to original location! Hopefully not same gas station mechanic swapped to wrong.

[@laviebanale]

Very good explanation. 👍

[@serpilbasbaydar2893]

I just took the rubber out since ut was worn out and wouldnt let me to get the pin back in properly and without rubbet at the end of the pin it works fine? My question is this rubber attached the tip of th pin really must have thing?

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

I've heard a lot of people saying they removed them without any issues, but they're installed for a reason so I'm not going to recommend removing them and not replacing them :)

[@konstantin-big]

Hey I removed the rubber from the pin and because it was inflated, I put suitable orings so the pin moves easily

[@edsyphan3425]

There’s a chance someone used a lube that wasn’t rubber safe?

[@elriv76]

Now should listen for any noises/clicks from caliper during braking, either road and car park.

[@antsfur]

Good video thanks, i will be doing mine in the next few weeks so this has helped.

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

No problem 👍

[@TheBeast-tj9qo]

I use CRC SILARAMIC grease. Great video!

[@StopTeoriomSpiskowym]

Always use a grease witch not degradation rubber. that rubber not be destroy and cover rubber can not be

[@jahawj8375]

My Toyota service manual shows the pin at the top...?

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Some cars recommend different positions. I would go by your manual

[@Sylvain-r4o]

One of the most accurate, informative videos among all those that often fall more under personal opinion. For this simple reason. I take the time to connect to my KZbin account and subscribe to your channel. Keep up the good work and thank you!

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

You're welcome, thanks for watching !

[@mattipaivinen3568]

This rubber bushing, when swollen, will eventually jam the caliper.

[@martinmoffitt4702]

Thank you well presented!

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thanks for watching !

[@1Odama]

a great video with simple but effective communication skills with high level of expert views of a particular part of brake system. Love it and thanks. In case of doubt look for good mechanic (not necessarily a qualified one like doctors).

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thanks for watching !

[@perspicator5779]

Excellent vid.!

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thank you !

[@CreativeTechbuild]

Excellent video 👏

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thank you very much!

[@byiA1]

Если кто не понял, то автор указывает, что спереди направляющие с резиновым уплотнением устанавливаются всегда снизу, а сзади наоборот сверху.

[@machineman6498]

Thank you for making this

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

You're welcome, thanks for watching !

[@mikec555555]

Well I have a 6th gen honda civic and the caliper is mounted to the front of the rotors and yet the manual says the guide pin with the rubber bushing goes on top for both sides ???

[@joeyoungs8426]

Correct. Because the calipers are mounted on the front, the top pin is the trailing pin. This is visualized by the counter clockwise rotation when moving forward. The rotational force is the ‘last pin’ the rotation encounters. Edit: If you visualize rotating the bracket to the rear of the rotor its position in the bracket doesn’t change but becomes the bottom pin. Hope that helps.

[@king300c]

Great video! What is the purpose of that type of slide pin?

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

The pins allow the caliper to slide in and out on the mounting bracket which helps the pads to put equal pressure on each side of the brake rotor

[@king300c]

​​@@screwsnutsandbolts Thanks for the reply. Im well aware of what slide pins do. What I meant was, what's the purpose of the slide pin with the rubber bushing? The majority of slide pins I've encountered in the last 25 years are "regular" all steel pins with no rubber bushing. Is it to negate some problem? Is it "high performance" lol. Or is it more planned obsolescence? Just amother part that needs more frequent replacement because the rubber ripped, fell apart or wore out.

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Oh my mistake, I read that wrong. It's supposed to stop the caliper from rattling or 'chattering' when the brakes are applied.

[@king300c]

​@@screwsnutsandbolts Thanks. It's always a good day when you learn something new.

[@user-jz1ht8ry2w]

Very intresting topic. Thanks.

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thanks for watching !

[@henrymiecz8566]

Nice work.

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thanks!

[@emotionz3]

Should be required viewing for ant shop class. You covered two of the most common mistakes (pin position and proper greasing) in brake service within 5 minutes.

[@nomoreblahblah]

Excellent good info

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thanks for watching !

[@micheljoseph732]

Je suis en France et ne maîtrise pas l'anglais mais avec le traducteur j'ai pu pu comprendre votre démonstration enfin presque car je n'arrive pas à assimiler le fait que la colonnette avec la bague caoutchouc soit en bas pour l'avant et en haut pour l'arrière ! en fait à quoi sert la bague en caoutchouc ? Merci encore pour votre vidéo Michel JOSEPH TRAI am in France and do not speak English but with the translator I was able to understand your demonstration almost because I cannot assimilate the fact that the column with the rubber ring is at the bottom for the front and up for the back! actually what is the rubber ring for? Thanks again for your video Michel JOSEPHDUCTION

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

It stops the brake caliper from rattling.

[@biomedeng.5824]

Hi could help me I have VW GOLF 2016 And I am wondering if this also applies to my vehicle As I have the same sliding pin Thanks ❤

[@RCCustoms73]

What if a new set of brake hardware comes with 4 rubber bushings and are used on both top and bottom such as in my 2006 Chevy Silverado 2500hd? Or are all 4 not supposed to have them?

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Yes, some kits use them on both slide pins on each caliper

[@elriv76]

By factory mistake :)?

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

No, some manufacturers use them on every pin

[@ashrafsiddiquee3190]

You are my most favorite in you tube

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thank you !

[@yajrewop4672]

Thank you

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

You're welcome

[@Mnezo666]

Good to know, thanks.

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

You're welcome !

[@robertnagy2456]

Very good, thanks.

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thanks for watching !

[@joeknowz4898]

dont use synthetic lube.. it makes the rubber swell and cant go back in the caliper..

[@Beka-r8u]

Я очень благодарен тебе такие видео хорошее снимаешь желаю тебе хорошего настроения

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thank you !

[@calculusentropy]

1) Rubber grommets are meant to slowly cause brake failure and wear to increase repair costs plausibly. 2) never ever ever use them, rip them out. Any grease other than silicone will make them swell and seize. 3) Terminate with extreme prejudice

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Terminate...the grommet ?

[@masterofnone7846]

Just use grease

[@marioncobretti7870]

Been told the exact opposite, should be first pin and in practice you tend to find them in either orientation. Whole things just wack

[@smiles7631]

Now I need a video on how to clean out those grungy holes when they are caked with some unknown crap. lol. Brakeclean only goes so far. Need some kind of brush on a drill. Hey that's a good tool to invent.

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

www.ebay.ie/itm/392163635552 :)

[@Peelerusa]

I use a bore brush made for cleaning firearms. They have brass bristles and come in different diameters. You can find them online, or at a local gun shop, and are inexpensive.

[@sfcd4757]

I use a box of Q-tips and use about 4-5 bunched together in the hole and manually spin it. A couple of sets and it gets the majority of it all out. Then i spray a degreaser in there and let it soak for a few minutes and dump it out. Again with Q tips for a few until its pretty clean. Then i usually use a little bit of brake clean or somethibg as a final touch. 5 total mins per caliber (or less). A drill or bore may work but i would suggest getting as much grease out manually first (especially if someone put a ton in there).

[@davejones290]

I just left them out ,all was good 😅

[@Ismael-rb4xs]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Thanks !

[@islandbeaches395]

Only rubbers

[@MuseumStandard]

Hey, my pins were installed incorrectly from the factory, what gives? Hyundai!!!!

[@sfcd4757]

Different manufactures have different styles and purposes based on their design.

[@maddoxnetwork]

since cars after 2022 are designed without those - it confirms that it does NOT matter

[@RichardBolger-c5b]

Neither. That rubber thing goes in trash can.

[@MagnetbergOfficial]

Rubber Bushing is shit 💩