Wonderful hearing William Conrad narrating on this very rare look at this aircraft!
@cpcattin Жыл бұрын
Matt Dillon ! The Fat Man.
@homebuiltindoorplane9 жыл бұрын
I helped restore the Dart at Lakeland airport back in the 80's.
@dannz26038 жыл бұрын
I have never seen a Dart but I for one thank you for helping to preserve this rare aircraft.
@homebuiltindoorplane8 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir!
@jphifer28486 жыл бұрын
You and the restoration team did a great job! I have studied that particular aircraft extensively.
@erikhertzer84346 жыл бұрын
homebuiltindoorplane : i saw it and was impressed, thanks for your work on it,
@maker-matt4 жыл бұрын
Many years ago, Early 1970's If memory serves, there was one of these at Boeing field in Renton Washington at the southern tip of lake Washington. (the runway actually went down into the lake so a seaplane could taxi in-out of the lake) It, the Sea Dart, was just sitting there out in the open by the lake. crawled all over the thing and up inside where the twin jets would have been. I don't know where it is now and wonder if that's the one that the you helped restore? The time frame would be about right.
@taketimeout2share6 жыл бұрын
Where are all those beautiful models now? They cant have just thrown them away? To have lived and worked in California in the late forties and fifties must have been wonderful. Beautiful cars, no crowds and everything seemed possible.
@thomasnikkola56004 жыл бұрын
I couldn't imagine getting on the 110 at 5 and cruising home doing 65!
@laserleftfootttt76834 жыл бұрын
you forget that we had air raid sirens every monday at noon, Eisenhower encouraged everyone to build a bomb shelter in case of nuclear attack, Joe McCarthy's witch hunt for communists, Khrushchev pounding the table at the UN screaming "we will bury you" "Happy Days" wasn't that happy.
@daninfrance28924 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another cool video. I loved the views of historic San Diego. Takes me back to when people were more polite and aviation was innovative and creative. All those Convair buildings were later used to build the tomahawk cruise missile and they are now gone; just an airport parking lot.
@laserleftfootttt76834 жыл бұрын
my father worked on that project. I remember that model, he in 1965 and gave it to me. He said he designed the one forward ski that replaced the two skis. thanks!
@samsignorelli2 жыл бұрын
He may have worked with MY father, who was also on that project.
@1959Edsel7 жыл бұрын
The Sea Dart was a relic of a bygone era where almost any idea was tried out even if the operational rationale was somewhat dubious.
@leftcoaster677 жыл бұрын
Actually the Sea Dart, the Sea Master, and Marlin was a concept called Seaplane Striking Force. Unlike Aircraft Carriers. You could have supply, fighter, and bomber at forward bases, dispersed in harbours, islands, lakes. Unlike an aircraft carrier you would be able to still have flexability in attack. And be easier to defend. There was nothing dubious about the concept. It was limited by 50's technology. The F-35 is probably far more dubious.
@Veldtian17 жыл бұрын
Say it brother.
@laserleftfootttt76834 жыл бұрын
@@Veldtian1 imagine a Seadart trying to take off in 3 foot or greater waves
@rogerc.roberts47055 жыл бұрын
Glad to see this video. The plane was "news" when I was still in grade school and this video offered more information then I was able to acquire to date.
@s0nnyburnett9 жыл бұрын
Nothing like the romantic image of the mid 20th century engineer at work with his clubmasters and skinny black ties. What a time of innovation. What a shame nothing much ever came of this.
@gumunduringigumundsson93444 жыл бұрын
Oh but it did.
@thomasnikkola56004 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the slide rule and variable tables!the only computers sat on top of your shoulders!
@michaelmott80864 жыл бұрын
Skinny black ties? At first glance, I thought that you said "skinny black tires."
@cynthiagarner56815 жыл бұрын
My Dad Al Sharp was the foreman of the experimental aircraft dept. at Convair in San Diego. He was involved with the actual. Sea Dart, not these models .
@samsignorelli2 жыл бұрын
He may have worked with my father, Frank, who was an engineer on the project.
@erikhafer14155 жыл бұрын
Had one at Willow Grove PA on display years ago, very Rare !
@Alfa0116 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!
@Platyfurmany7 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that the music soundtrack can't be restored or, better yet, eliminated.
@oliversmith92005 жыл бұрын
Yeah those old movie soundtracks get so hinky they could trigger a hippie into flashback mode. I was watching an pre-WW II French movie on aviation pioneers last night, it's soundtrack was just all over the place, but the sentiment and content was fun.
@hobsonbeeman75292 жыл бұрын
It’s part of the 50s…60s video experience….lol
@FilipePiteАй бұрын
Engineering, at its experimental fase! This is aviation history at its best.
@tonystephen63122 жыл бұрын
Nice livery/paint job too!
@konstantinoskatomeris38514 жыл бұрын
thank you!!!!!! magic!!!!
@Jon.A.Scholt4 жыл бұрын
Man, the music is awesome!
@jzk39193 жыл бұрын
A fairly accepted "Eastern Block" technical periodical (perhaps bi-weekly) in 1957 May(?) had a short report about Convair going further than the Sea dart. Planning a submarine capable version! Outside looks same but a little bigger plane that can dive and hide subsurface!
@cpcattin Жыл бұрын
I heard one of the design changes early in the full scale craft was the widening of the cockpit. The earlier craft were too narrow to accommodate a test pilot with balls big enough.
@thetreblerebel4 жыл бұрын
One of the test pilots who flew the Sea Dart said it was one of the most dangerous things hes ever done. The design was very flawed with the skis, and the eventual breakup of the one prototype that killed one of the test pilots. Theres a Peninsula Seniors video with him telling his pilot history..worth a watch!
@YDDES3 жыл бұрын
In the late 50’s, the comic strip ”Buz Sawyer”, that featured a Guy who worked as a testpilot and spy, had him fly a similar aircraft. The difference was that it had No skis and was much smaller. Also, it could land on a ”soft deck” on land.
@dartmaster5012 жыл бұрын
The plane broke up killing Convair test pilot Charles E. Richbourg because he inadvertently exceeded the airframe's limitations.
@MrSpikebender5 жыл бұрын
WOW! was that really how video looked when we were kids?
@andrewgraham76597 жыл бұрын
It sounds like a nice concept
@tattrie178 жыл бұрын
Kinda wish we didn't have computers. Humans were obviously in control. We the humans we the computers!
@tattrie178 жыл бұрын
*were the computers!
@dannz26038 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating and I dare say rare footage of the development of a unique aircraft. I was just thinking that I would love to have a couple of the old paper sketches and drawings as from my viewpoint these are as beautiful as any artwork hanging in museums. P.S. There is a punch-card computer shown at 4:57 I wonder how they used it to crunch the flight data calculations and what the output would have looked like? What a great job these guys had.
@oliversmith92005 жыл бұрын
Yep, and we had to do all that fun analog testing of designs with physical models instead of in computers. It was slower, it was less efficient, but, it had to be more fun.
@thetreblerebel4 жыл бұрын
An impressive aircraft
@phantomkea24 жыл бұрын
I bet corrosion would have been a problem if it was ever developed
@charlesastle20775 жыл бұрын
would make a nice drone for submarines or smaller navy vessels
@confuseatronica4 жыл бұрын
MARSHALL DILLON!
@L34dF4rm3r2 жыл бұрын
does anyone know the music in the beginning
@leeschmitt8 жыл бұрын
Love "Matt Dillon" narrating. What a voice.
@trackhoe235 жыл бұрын
Yes! And it's been three years since you made this comment. I'm surprised no one has tried to argue that this isn't James Arness's voice.
@douglasgordon18223 жыл бұрын
William Conrad, who played Matt Dillion in this time frame ON RADIO
@Jake-cz1kb10 ай бұрын
Hard to imagine the corrosion issues it would have had.
@barryervin85368 жыл бұрын
A fascinating concept; it's a shame that it went nowhere. One of the surviving Sea Darts is on display outside at the (now closed) Willow Grove NAS, I drive past it every day.
@dannz26038 жыл бұрын
It would seem to be a shame that the aircraft left outside will eventually deteriorate and disappear into history.
@DavidSteeleRacing6 жыл бұрын
abpic.co.uk/pictures/view/1435203
@dartmaster5012 жыл бұрын
They all four have survived and are displayed throughout the country.
@terryboehler57523 жыл бұрын
Is there someone out there who could replace the music and narration. This historic clip doesn't deserve the awful clown music sounds.
@glywnniswells94805 жыл бұрын
Next a jet that can land on water and become a submarine then surface again and take off again.
@daninfrance28924 жыл бұрын
You would think that a billionaire would want a flying submarine rather than a separate yacht, sub and jet. Imagine the fun times abord a amphibious flying submarine. It could go anywhere and do anything. I wish I could build it, fly it, sail it, drive it and dive it. Fun!
@BLUECHET7 жыл бұрын
Is this Conrad narrating?
@4321eyeseeyou7 жыл бұрын
Sounds just like him.
@lukehanley53923 жыл бұрын
“The fat man”
@Chainspike1013 жыл бұрын
pretty neat
@erikhertzer84346 жыл бұрын
11:04 I wonder why they bothered to cover it up...didnt everyone see the representative 1/10 scale models being tested in San Diego Bay?
@midasracer4 жыл бұрын
So where was the weapons load supposed to go?
@davidefland1985 Жыл бұрын
Was stationed at North Island my last 2 years in the Navy 1996-1998. Was nice there but expensive. Of course this video is before l was born. The Seadart crashed in the San Diego bay killing one of the test pilots
@jeromewagschal94852 жыл бұрын
Magnificent machine...It could have been Batman's plane...Was that a P-80 Shooting Star flying next to it ?
@antonioclemente8977 жыл бұрын
boards of canada vibes
@dubtownman9508 Жыл бұрын
Looks like the Lockheed from the side elevation..
@petermuller16110 ай бұрын
They did this for no real good reason! I love the try-anything attitude and with unlimited funding they made some real nonsense machines come to life!
@thetreblerebel4 жыл бұрын
It's a F102 on water skis...
@sidneyalves88477 жыл бұрын
é o novo! do tempo da musica orquestrada.
@normg22423 жыл бұрын
THE MUSIC...... HAHAHAHA....!!!
@MrHansAryan9 жыл бұрын
A good example of when the world changes, things are overcome..... Few understand this because it requires system thinking. Fewer care to exercise that way. Even fewer are engaged in trying to guide human destiny KNOWING these things. Explains a lot why we are in the hole we are today.... Specifically, missiles became the armament of the sub and planes were outclassed and outdated. All in under 10 years! BE thankful you can see this - music does suck but damn, great information!!!!
@cartmanrlsusall7 жыл бұрын
MrHansAryan technology marches on,all the mucking about with models can be done in minutes on a computer.
@andrewnorgrove64877 жыл бұрын
Never to be seen again !
@samsignorelli2 жыл бұрын
Not true....the three surviving airframes are all on public display. I helped restore the one in San Diego.
@TylerRecchia9093 Жыл бұрын
So fucturistic the music sounds like synth wave
@superancientmariner13947 жыл бұрын
Unique....1953. Hardly The British had already flown a jet powered water borne prototype jet fighter in 1947...Saunders Roe P1.
@kurtbjorn7 жыл бұрын
It's easy to slap a jet engine onto a proven platform. I could mount small jets on a 1920 Curtiss float plane and have it fly. It IS unique in that it was built ground-up to be a SUPERSONIC interceptor.
@superancientmariner13947 жыл бұрын
KurtB It's based on the Dart, which was a supersonic interceptor anyway. It is not unique in the sense of being a water bourne jet fighter.
@superancientmariner13947 жыл бұрын
panda44r Both built as water borne jet fighters......No difference whatsoever. Also, the SR plane was from scratch, XF2y wasn't....but the biggest point would be that the SR was of a time when Supersonics were unknown. The fact is a) It isn't unique, b) It wasn't first.
@kurtbjorn7 жыл бұрын
SuperAncientmariner I've always admired British aerospace advances, but they've apparently "given up" in the last 40 years or so. You are not alone in bemoaning this, and cling to history... Spitfires, Merlin engines, Whittle. And then, anything that comes post WW2 is some sort of "bad copy" or "imitation" of British engineering. Trust me, not everything is based upon UK efforts. I'm glad Boeing didn't rush a 707 to compete with the Comet.
@superancientmariner13947 жыл бұрын
KurtB It's funny you should mention that. When the investigations into the causes of the Comet failures were announced, both Boeing and Douglas said that if it had not happened to the Comet, it would (not might) have happened to them. Also, the way that air crash investigations are carried out (including rebuilding wreckage etc) are all down to the way the Comet investigations were carried out. Regarding anything "post war"......if we make a claim of British involvement.....it is because of British involvement. Nothing is claimed that does not have basis in fact. If there was no British involvement, we don't claim that there was. An example would be this page. It is stated that this aircraft is unique in it's conception. It wasn't.. It has been stated that it was designed as an interceptor....it wasn't...it was a development of an existing aircraft. All we ask is credit where due..
@badrelative25737 жыл бұрын
This thing works! What happened?
@spiritofattack6 жыл бұрын
Aerial refueling gave the range. Try to conceive of the Sea Dart with a load of bombs. No.
@glengustafson69594 жыл бұрын
One of the prototypes disintegrated over San Diego Harbor during a demonstration flight for top brass. About the same time the problem of basing supersonic aircraft on carriers was solved. My father caught two photos of the exploding plane with a 4x5 before it hit the water. He was stationed at the Coast Guard bass on Harbor Drive.
@nghnino6 жыл бұрын
Why the US Navy abandoned this program? is it because the USAF will be jelous?
@samsignorelli2 жыл бұрын
The problem of launching jet aircraft off of carriers had been solved, plus the persistent ski issues really killed the project.
@daveogarf3 жыл бұрын
(*Sea Dart is TWO words!)
@CorrieBergeron7 жыл бұрын
A time of rapid change in both technology and world politics..... and nearly unlimited funds for defense.
@Veldtian17 жыл бұрын
and a culture of unbridled technical creativity..
@sergiozapataarias34292 жыл бұрын
In the future se Will see submarinos flying ............
@motosocalpch73646 жыл бұрын
is it just me or does this plane look like it has stealth features ??
@leftcoaster676 жыл бұрын
Blended wing makes sense for seaplanes.
@ZenJenZ5 жыл бұрын
💡
@WildBillCox134 жыл бұрын
An aircraft for which no sound tactical or operational doctrine was ever formulated, the Sea Dart was, to coin a phrase, "cool as hell" in concept*. Naturally, the Sea Dart cannot carry underwing or fuselage stores or tanks. In that wise, it was less potentially useful than the Harrier-a known short range, poor performance, type. *Exactly like the F-104. No tactical doctrine formulated by the USAF envisioned need of a supersonic point defense fighter.
@truthtellor51445 жыл бұрын
Vacuum tubes
@ghostman90288 жыл бұрын
the music is all warped an sad an representative of a time gone by,an power of u.s..might that no longer exists,like some documentary at our collective funeral....
@dannz26038 жыл бұрын
Yep I was thinking the same things.
@GeneralBlackbird6 жыл бұрын
You see, comrade, russian people thinking smth like this, watching USSR documentary films: SU was a geat country and now we lost it,s achievements. About this video: glad to see. Modern Discovery is a silly pup agains old documentary films school.